BB Croker letters

[shakermaker1982]

Paul on the ticket invoice it's broken down like this (well for me anyway):

Area-----------Ticket QTY------Ticket Price

Cusack Lower---- 4 ------------ 70

[Newryrep]

I did not recieve a letter so i rang today and was told that no tickets were avaliable.Was around 4000 on the WL.
boo hoo hoo!

Highlight did you quote your 'customer' reference number when you made the inquiry if you are 4000 on the list your ref is approx WL 18000. It will be listed on all your correspondace from FAI.

Or did you just ring up enquiring about tickets ? I believe one Wexdec guys was 5000 on the list and got offered.

Maybe they didnt receive you request ?

[paul_oshea]

Paul on the ticket invoice it's broken down like this (well for me anyway):

Area-----------Ticket QTY------Ticket Price

Cusack Lower---- 4 ------------ 70

how she couldn't see that ill never know. did it say total as another column after ticket price, cos she knew it was 280 for each game.

[shakermaker1982]

it did Paul yep and then total for both games. Looks a lot!

[highlight100]

Highlight did you quote your 'customer' reference number when you made the inquiry if you are 4000 on the list your ref is approx WL 18000. It will be listed on all your correspondace from FAI.

Or did you just ring up enquiring about tickets ? I believe one Wexdec guys was 5000 on the list and got offered.

Maybe they didnt receive you request ?

Quoted my ref number and they had my request for upper hogan/cusack (which was submitted before the jan 12 deadline by hand) but because those tickets were gone they did not see fit to allocate me in a different section.My only hope now is if some hill tickets are returned from the away associations!

[Bluetonic]

My only hope now is if some hill tickets are returned from the away associations!

Welsh FA took their full allocation.

Thats a bit rich that they didn't accommodate you.

[Newryrep]

Quoted my ref number and they had my request for upper hogan/cusack (which was submitted before the jan 12 deadline by hand) but because those tickets were gone they did not see fit to allocate me in a different section.My only hope now is if some hill tickets are returned from the away associations!

It seems strange/unfair that they didnt offer you somewhere else especially if those further down the list got sorted.

Try going down in person and pleading your case, they must hold back some tickets. Good luck

[joe_barry80]

I haven't heard a thing about my allocation. To be honest I only applied so i can go to the home games in October. Was going to give the rest to my dad. It will be easy enough getting tickets. Somebody always knows somebody who has tickets

[murtybyrne]

Hi All

Just wondering did anyone experience this problem? I got my block booking waiting list invoice this week but I had been in San Marino for the game and got back late friday night to see the letter from the FAI. So posted it off first thing Sat Morning but on the Letter it says has to be with the FAI by COB on Monday. Am going to ring them first thing in the morning to explain but does anybody thing they will still accept my application if it doesnt reach them by Monday?

Regards

Murty

[Bluetonic]

Am going to ring them first thing in the morning to explain but does anybody thing they will still accept my application if it doesnt reach them by Monday?


Did you have a read of other posts on this thread?

http://foot.ie/showpost.php?p=620289&postcount=99

[Collyontour]

Still, the week after an away game isn't ideal to be spending another wad of cash on them.

[Istabraq]

I wasnt successful with my application. Was in around the 3,500 mark on the waiting list. Not happy about it. I was told that I am still on a list to recieve any that might be returned. Im still pretty confident that ill get a ticket for the games, but it would have been nice to have my own sorted.

[Bluetonic]

I wasnt successful with my application. Was in around the 3,500 mark on the waiting list.

Would be interesting if this could be confirmed.


I believe one Wexdec guys was 5000 on the list and got offered.

[Istabraq]

It was confirmed. I e-mailed them this morning and got this reply:

Unfortunately, at present you are still on the list to receive tickets.
All available tickets have been allocated to date. We have retained a
list of persons whom still require tickets, however at present we are
not in a position to make any further offers until all current offers
have been accepted.

We will be in touch as soon as we can confirm.

Kind regards

Mary

MARY BYRNE
TICKET OFFICE ASSISTANT MANAGER
FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION OF IRELAND
01 7037513
MARY.BYRNE@FAI.IE

[Bluetonic]

It was confirmed.

I was referring to the part below. Don't see how someone on the waiting list for a shorter period of time would be given preference over someone on it longer.



I believe one Wexdec guys was 5000 on the list and got offered.

[Sumac]

Does anyone else agree that there is no system to the BB waiting list. I am number 3900 on the waiting list, so you would presume that if there were an extra 12,000 tickets that I would get one.
The FAI have decided to give some people as many as they wanted as long as it helped fill Croke Park. I was told that I was not successful in my application despite the fact that people even further down the list got sorted.
Surely they should have ensured that everyone on the waiting list got at least 1 ticket and them offered them the chance to buy more.
What happens when Landsdowne is redeveloped - Will there be more BBs offered. If so will it be 1 per person on the waiting list or a free for all like Croker.
I am not surprised though having had plenty of problems with the FAI previously with tickets - Further symbolises the lack of professionalism within the organisation
:mad:

[Bluetonic]

What happens when Landsdowne is redeveloped - Will there be more BBs offered. If so will it be 1 per person on the waiting list or a free for all like Croker.

When applying to be added to the waiting list applicants stated the number of tickets required for that block booking. This will be the number taken into account when people are offered a place on the block booking proper.

[Sumac]

So if I am number 3900 on list does that mean there are 3899 in front of me or is it 3899 X 2,3,4 (whatever was requested)

[elroy]

There seems to be a growing trend here, so I'll add my name to the list ****ed off with the FAI.

I've been on the waiting list a number of years, last year was told I was around the 1000 mark. Hand delivered my application for tickets to the FAI and they are now telling me that they never received it. Fcuking joke, so ****ed off. So anyone who might have ordered spares I'd be grateful.

Ive a feeling after last weeks shambles not all those allocated will be taking tickets however so just hopeful i might get sorted.

[Bluetonic]

So if I am number 3900 on list does that mean there are 3899 in front of me or is it 3899 X 2,3,4 (whatever was requested)

The latter, there are 3899 applicant before yours, each applicant has one or more tickets associated with it.

[NeilMcD]

I was lucky enough to get what I needed. They should have offered tickets to people on the waiting list before they gave the likes of me the opportunity to request more tickets.

[RogerMilla]

i have to agree with neil mcd but i suppose they just wanted to sell out croker regardless. i know a fella who got 8 tickets allocated to him , surely a cap at 4 or something would have been enough ?

[reder]

i have to agree with neil mcd but i suppose they just wanted to sell out croker regardless. i know a fella who got 8 tickets allocated to him , surely a cap at 4 or something would have been enough ?

Agree a cap of 4 tickets is about right. Allowing people to buy more just gives people a license to tout. Even in Lansdowne tickets were touted and appeared on various sites for the east/west stands. I have a feeling some people suspect the could make a killing on our games (Wales in particular) given the historical significance.

[NeilMcD]

Well I went for more but I can guarantee I will not be touting but I do think that it could happen but I think to be fair anyone on the block booking list would not be a tout. All the extra tickets I got are going to family members who live down and were not on the block booking list.

[Bluetonic]

I have a feeling some people suspect the could make a killing on our games (Wales in particular) given the historical significance.

Being sold already http://cgi.ebay.ie/2x-tickets-ireland-vs-wales-soccer-tickets-croke-park_W0QQitemZ130077793588QQihZ003QQcategoryZ1306Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Two 70 euro tickets currently bid @ 300 euro

[elroy]

Well im just hoping that for those of us screwed by the fai that we'll get tickets without having to pay those kinda prices. Worst i ever paid was 150 in LR for the france game and cant imagine demand will be as high as it was for that game. Still thou I agree the FAI shouldve put a cap on how many tickets could be ordered to prevent this kind of stuff.

[hp123]

pure scum who sell tickets over face value. The FAI should track these people down and ban them from all future games. HOw hard would it be to find out who put this up on eBay?

[SuperDave]

For the information of those of you who are on the waiting list and are getting qualifiers for the first time I would like to inform you that the girls in the ticket office are actually very competent and are very polite to speak to and deal with.

With regards to the application, it has always been like this. You always get about 7 days to return your application and in my mind its more than enough.
The ticket office staff have to sort through the applications and get the individual seats allocated. I can assure you that if you ring up the Ticket Office next tuesday and say you were in san marino they will accept your applications.

I agree with you on that, but the closing dat initially seemed a little short sighted and you have to agree that it inconveniences fans who went to san marino. Though if they're offering a grace period that would seem to suffice.

[galwayhoop]

Being sold already http://cgi.ebay.ie/2x-tickets-ireland-vs-wales-soccer-tickets-croke-park_W0QQitemZ130077793588QQihZ003QQcategoryZ1306Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Two 70 euro tickets currently bid @ 300 euro

they are actually €50 tickets and current bid now €380. why is there a liverpool badge in the graphic beside it? :confused:

[Newryrep]

There is something not right here.

Capacity increases from 33K to circa 76K and an additional 10K (say 2 tickets per waiting list applicant) cannot be accomodated. ?

The selection of seating area should have been prioritised ie 1st choice 2nd choice 3rd choice. If your 1st choice was full by BB's or those on the waiting list ahead of you then you automatically got shifted onto your next choice.

I have only thought about this now but what the hell happens elsewhere when new grounds are built and seating allocated ? Arsenal ? It is not rocket science.

If there are problems now going back to Lansdowne with a reduced capacity is going to be a nightmare.

[Istabraq]

Can anyone confirm that they were 3500 or higher on the waiting list and got sorted. I will be very ****ed off if this is the case.
I know a bloke whos was around 2500 and got his full allocation of 6 tickets.

[Bluetonic]

Capacity increases from 33K to circa 76K and an additional 10K (say 2 tickets per waiting list applicant) cannot be accomodated. ?

Capacity for the home support is approx 59,000 + 10,000 premium and corporate.

82500 - 13,000 (Hill) - 10,000 = 59500 (approx)

Waiting lists applicants should have been offered the amount (or less) their original application to join the list was for, failure to take this amount up should have seen removal from the list. Those on the waiting list the longest should obviously have preference for their original desired amount.

[paul_oshea]

13,000 (Hill) #

thats standing bluetonic. temp seating is going to be considerably less.

[Bluetonic]

thats standing bluetonic. temp seating is going to be considerably less.

Was doing a calculation to show the capacity available to block bookers


Capacity for the home support is approx 59,000 + 10,000 premium and corporate.


82500 (minus) - 13,000 (Hill) (minus) - 10,000 (corporate) = 59500 (approx) capacity for block bookers.

Even on TV3 I heard 82,500 being bantered around as the capacity, which is totally misleading.

[Newryrep]

Was doing a calculation to show the capacity available to block bookers

59500 (approx) capacity for block bookers.



Existing BB's circa 33K

Waiting List 5000 @ say 4 per ticket 20K (being generous)

total 53K required 59.5K available

I can only think that existing BB's have taken another circa 20K of tickets (few of which were duplicated by the waiting list) leaving 6.5K of tickets for 2-3K of waiting listers

It is a mess.

[Loadedscream]

Can anyone confirm that they were 3500 or higher on the waiting list and got sorted. I will be very ****ed off if this is the case.
I know a bloke whos was around 2500 and got his full allocation of 6 tickets.

its a farce as usual, i know a guy in the 4000's that applied for and got 9 tickets

[Bluetonic]

I can only think that existing BB's have taken another circa 20K of tickets (few of which were duplicated by the waiting list) leaving 6.5K of tickets for 2-3K of waiting listers

I'd say you've got it in one there.

[Newryrep]

The 4 issues I see are

1. the number of waiting listers who actually got offered tickets ?

2. It appears that if your preferred seating area is full you are discarded no matter where you are on the list and those further down are offered their own preferred seating area if their area is not filled?

3. why so few of the additional 20K BB tickets were not duplicated on the waiting list ?

4. I previously advised to take up the waiting list offer as opposed to an existing additional BB offer as the ticket Office confirmed that these tickets would be for Croke Park only. I took this to mean that they would be discarded for the new Lansdowne as existing BB will revert to their old allocation. If this isnt the case the waiting list will not move when LR is redeveloped

[Bluetonic]

I took this to mean that they would be discarded for the new Lansdowne as existing BB will revert to their old allocation. If this isnt the case the waiting list will not move when LR is redeveloped

There is nothing to even hint that this will be the case. i.e BB will revert to normal allocation when Croke Park is not in use.

[galwayhoop]

logical solution would have been to :

croke park
1. give existing BB their normal allocation (30,000)
2. issue tickets to the waiting list - max 2 per person (12,000)
3. go back to BB list and offer more tickets as you know how mant left now
4. any remaining tickets offered to those on waiting list
Advantages: decrease the amount of duplication - i.e people on waiting list who got tickets off BB's. also you have now looked after the people on the waiting list.

new landsdowne
1. you offer existing BB their original amount of tickets (30,000)
2. you also have sort out those on waiting list (12,000)
3. do what ever the fúck you want as most people are happy and you have 42,000 block bookers - remaining 13,000 or so will be for corporate and away supporters

[galwayhoop]

BTW anyone on waiting list not get their letter this week yet??

[Newryrep]

There is nothing to even hint that this will be the case. i.e BB will revert to normal allocation when Croke Park is not in use.

I am not so sure now Bluetonic they could well revert to their normal allocation and like now ask if they wish to increase.

Can anybody honestly say that this was the way they thought Croke Park was going to allocated ?

As i mentioned on a previous thread less postage overall (5000 extra stampsw) if BB take more tickets:p

[Bluetonic]

logical solution would have been to :

croke park
1. give existing BB their normal allocation (30,000)
2. issue tickets to the waiting list - max 2 per person (12,000)
3. go back to BB list and offer more tickets as you know how mant left now
4. any remaining tickets offered to those on waiting list
Advantages: decrease the amount of duplication - i.e people on waiting list who got tickets off BB's. also you have now looked after the people on the waiting list.


The amount offered to those on the waiting list should be the same as what they've originally applied for when joining the list, thats the only fair way. Otherwise it makes a mockery of asking people how many tickets they require when joining the list. Someone on the waiting list 5 years looking for 3 tickets should never be offered 2 tickets. The list is there for a reason - to prioritise people and their requests not to give everyone the same spread.

[SuperDave]

I am not so sure now Bluetonic they could well revert to their normal allocation and like now ask if they wish to increase.

Can anybody honestly say that this was the way they thought Croke Park was going to allocated ?

As i mentioned on a previous thread less postage overall (5000 extra stampsw) if BB take more tickets:p

No, i never thought this would be the way of the allocation, but being fair to the fai they have to sell all the tickets, from a financial point of view. Whether or not it is actually full is completely unrelated and from experience they don't seem to mind touts which is why we see some faintly ludicrous allocations getting filled.
They have stated categorically that any increases block bookers receive will not carry over to lansdowne and i'm sure that will be the case. Plus, lest we forget, block bookers waiting listers will be in the same boat so the 5,000 odd on the waiting list will only get what they initially put down for. Everyone whos name is actually on the list should be okay when they get back to lansdowne.

[Newryrep]

They have stated categorically that any increases block bookers receive will not carry over to lansdowne and i'm sure that will be the case. Plus, lest we forget, block bookers waiting listers will be in the same boat so the 5,000 odd on the waiting list will only get what they initially put down for. Everyone whos name is actually on the list should be okay when they get back to lansdowne.

I dont think anybody would argue against this SuperDave.

Good luck to those fans who didnt get sorted

[Bluetonic]

Everyone whos name is actually on the list should be okay when they get back to lansdowne.

New Lansdowne Road capacity 50,000
Away allocation 5,000

45,000 capacity for home fans.

Less 10,000 capacity for premium and 1,500 capacity for box level which are being sold separately at the moment by the FAI

So all in all there will be 34,000 block booking seats available in the new Lansdowne. You can actually probably skim another 1,000 off for those who have been buttered up to allow Lansdowne to be redeveloped.

People better start praying that some of the existing allocation of block bookers upgrade to premium level, buy 10 year tickets, buy a box or else there won't be as many of the waiting list accommodated as you'd think.

As stated before my guess is from 2,000 below have 'a chance'.

[Bluetonic]

In other related news... the waiting list is now suspended.


BLOCK BOOKING

The Block Booking scheme is currently fully subscribed. The waiting list to join the scheme has been suspended until further notice due to excessive demand. No further applications to join the waiting list will be accepted after 5pm Monday 12th February.


And... the cheek of some block bookers...


Q: Hi, Do you actually have the tickets? If so would you agree to a pickup in Dublin? If not how can I be sure you will have them.

A: tickets will not be printed until 4 or3 weeks before the match and delivered threafter i am a block booker and as such i have 4 available to me so i am selling 2.i am a genuine ireland fan not a messer you can ring me nearer the time if you have any other questions no question whoever wins bid will get 2 lower canal genuine ireland tickets i dont believe in robbing anybody as i know what its like to be ticketless for an ireland game if you win the bid i could also give u 2 tickets for the game against slovakia on wednesday after cut price.i could meet you but i have good bids already and if you get tickets elsewhere i lose out .just so u know if anybody on ebay is selling tickets in their hand now for the game i wouldnt believe them with 6 or 7 weeks to go they have not been released yet good luck sorry about all the blah blah!!!!!

Current big 380 euro for tickets totalling 100 euro

http://cgi.ebay.ie/2x-tickets-ireland-vs-wales-soccer-tickets-croke-park_W0QQitemZ130077793588QQihZ003QQcategoryZ1306Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Newryrep]

BT

That is depressing especially on those who missed out,

Has anybody ever been removed from the BB list for this ? You would think that someone in the FAI would think it some good PR (espicially now) to announce a sting operation and anybody caught out would have their ticket allocation removed.

1.Spend say 5 K buy as many tickets as they can.

2. Name and shame those supplying tickets and remove from list - good PR

3. Tickets go to those on waiting list or get given to radio stations to auction for charity

4. Those next on waiting list get offered tickets for next game

Everybody wins

[elroy]

BTW anyone on waiting list not get their letter this week yet??

Didnt receive any cos the ticket office are claiming they never received my application although I hand delivered it! I rang them yesterday so if you're in the same boat I advise you do the same.

Am just hoping a few of the offers sent out this week are not returned, with a bit of luck might get offered those then. Wishful thinking but am hoping after last weeks performance a few people might have had second thoughts.

As for that scum selling on ebay......blood and boiling come to mind.

[WexDec]

i am a genuine ireland fan not a messer you can ring me nearer the time if you have any other questions no question whoever wins bid will get 2 lower canal genuine ireland tickets i dont believe in robbing anybody as i know what its like to be ticketless for an ireland game if you win the bid i could also give u 2 tickets for the game against slovakia on wednesday after cut price.i could meet you but i have good bids already and if you get tickets elsewhere i lose out .just so u know if anybody on ebay is selling tickets in their hand now for the game i wouldnt believe them with 6 or 7 weeks to go they have not been released yet good luck sorry about all the blah blah!!!!!


Genuine Ireland fan / not a messer / genuine ireland tickets / don't believe in robbing anybody !!!

Then warns off about false touts and sympathises that "i know what its like to be ticketless for an ireland game". Makes me sick its like he thinks he's helping fellow fans out.

Best bit is "if you win the bid i could also give u 2 tickets for the game against slovakia on wednesday after CUT PRICE" that must mean only 100 euro for a a 50 euro ticket, a bargain in his greedy world.

The fact that people can order 8 tickets and potentially flog them like this while others miss out on even 1 for being on waiting list is sickening.

As regards the FAI tackling touts I'd imagine it'd be the same story as with any other FA or club, they don't give a sh1t as long as they get their beef. If anything high tout prices reinforces the preciousness of legit tickets.

EDIT : just noticed the way thats quoted it looks like it was from Bluetonic, its actually him quoting some eBay scum !

EDIT #2 : is that better ? :D