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Billy Lord
08/10/2006, 12:22 AM
for Cyprus - whoever they are. I'm thrilled that the worst fans in the world have registered the worst result in the world against Cyprus. Ireland fans are easily amongst the greatest shower of morons I've ever experienced. They're just a bunch of badly-dressed drunks who are looking for an excuse to get away from their wives to get ****ed with a bunch of no-mates. All that's going for you are stupid hats, daft wigs, no backbone and the most pathetic chants outside of Hill 16.
Best fans in the world my arse.

tricky_colour
08/10/2006, 12:26 AM
Daft wigs? "Are you aving a laff?"

Billy Lord
08/10/2006, 1:23 AM
Okay, daft curly green wigs. Ireland fans are an embarrassment. Especially the saps wearing GAA jerseys to compliment theit crap wigs. International football just seems to breed these imbeciles.

onenilgameover
08/10/2006, 1:28 AM
welcome to the binned thread.

sligoman
08/10/2006, 1:33 AM
Okay, daft curly green wigs. Ireland fans are an embarrassment. Especially the saps wearing GAA jerseys to compliment theit crap wigs. International football just seems to breed these imbeciles.What's wrong with trying to add a bit of colour to an already failed european qualifying campaign?

Dodge
08/10/2006, 2:14 AM
What's wrong with trying to add a bit of colour to an already failed european qualifying campaign?

Nothing. Bbut don't wear a wig. have some dignity man...

Billy Lord
08/10/2006, 4:01 AM
Sligoman: nice try at irony. But I'd reckon it's lost on people who sing cabaret songs such as The Fields of Athenry while swearing allegiance to Chelsea.

Mental Man
08/10/2006, 6:45 AM
In fairness John you have a valid point there, its the same at all the international home or away games, who are these Gob****es that go to the games wearing arse-nal or man-ure jerseys and oh yes not forgetting the old Tiocfaidh Ar la sell-thick brigade , the amount of these gob-****es i saw out in Stuttgart a few weeks back was enough to make me spew.
Any of the games i go to i always wear my eircom league jersey and an irish scarf and thats it, and i always keep in touch with lads from other clubs and we all wear our club jerseys, the amount of guys i saw out in germany wearing rovers or blues or cork city etc.. was great but the amount of people who were out there who just went for the **** up who wouldnt know what position players were in and these were the crowd going around with the wigs and make up etc..:mad:
As regard to the match last night to say i am still in shock is an understatement, i think the players should now step back and have a good chat with themselves and consider their future now in the ireland team, to put on the green jersy is the highest honour a person can achieve but by god u are expected to play with a passion also, last night i saw nothing, now i ain knocking stan, he put out what he had available, its just the players werent arsed and wanted to be back at their clubs getting their 40-60k a week and thats all that matters to them, SO SAD and what an embarrassment to the country and the jersey :mad: .

inexile
08/10/2006, 10:38 AM
lads just because people support english teams doesnt mean they know nothing about the game, i am not ashamed to say i support liverpool and i know as much about the game as anyone posting on this site, i have played eL and i know the standard and quality is so much better in england and more importantly the presentation... so don't dismiss people as imbeciles of they look for a better product.

I believe the irish fans are a great representation of our country when they go abroad witness the atmosphere and support in Germany or nearly thirty thousand irish supported humming the french national anthem in the Stade De France. Fair play to them

Peadar
08/10/2006, 11:21 AM
The game in Ireland is being destroyed from within and you guys are worried about what fans wear! :rolleyes:
These are the people that we'll be begging to help us fill Croker. Wont be long before we're as pathetic as the Welsh, with their less than half full stadium.

The Stars
08/10/2006, 11:37 AM
Agree with Billy Lord on this one.
I dont go to Ireland matches because I dont feel the team is a proper reflection on the Island of Ireland,as in no Eircom League players in the team.
Also,the fact that most "Ireland fans" pledge themselfs to English clubs is the biggest contradiction ever.

Billy Lord
08/10/2006, 11:37 AM
inexile: by your own logic, I fail to understand why you'd support Ireland. After all, other countries offer a better 'product' than Ireland ever could, why don't you support one of them?
I wouldn't say the Ireland muppets know nothing about football - they're just clueless in general. Why would anyone wear a green wig or a plastic hat to a game, or get their face painted, sing Ole Ole or cabaret songs such as The Fields of Athenry unless they were muppets?
Ireland fans are the Steps of international football.

Billy Lord
08/10/2006, 11:43 AM
Peadar: in case you haven't copped it yet, I couldn't care less about Croker, but your average Irish muppet will think it's great that Ireland are playing there. It's another day out!
Irish footbal died decades ago; all I have left is my scorn for the *******s who helped to destroy it and the great Irish public who have better things to do. Like get their faces painted, or follow Liverpool You know they're the 'Irish' club in Liverpool, right?

sonofstan
08/10/2006, 12:01 PM
Ireland fans are the Steps of international football.

Very clever, JB.. at first I thought you were being Old Fogeyish and out of date with your pop culture references, that you meant like steps as in 'plastic and inauthentic' but now I see you mean like Steps as in ''90's throwbacks who ceased to be an effective force in 2002'

Raheny Red
08/10/2006, 12:16 PM
Sligoman by any chance were you gooning it up with a wig in Tolka on Tuesday? :p :rolleyes:

Fingal hoop
08/10/2006, 2:10 PM
In fairness John you have a valid point there, its the same at all the international home or away games, who are these Gob****es that go to the games wearing arse-nal or man-ure jerseys and oh yes not forgetting the old Tiocfaidh Ar la sell-thick brigade , the amount of these gob-****es i saw out in Stuttgart a few weeks back was enough to make me spew.
Any of the games i go to i always wear my eircom league jersey and an irish scarf and thats it, and i always keep in touch with lads from other clubs and we all wear our club jerseys, the amount of guys i saw out in germany wearing rovers or blues or cork city etc.. was great but the amount of people who were out there who just went for the **** up who wouldnt know what position players were in and these were the crowd going around with the wigs and make up etc..:mad:
As regard to the match last night to say i am still in shock is an understatement, i think the players should now step back and have a good chat with themselves and consider their future now in the ireland team, to put on the green jersy is the highest honour a person can achieve but by god u are expected to play with a passion also, last night i saw nothing, now i ain knocking stan, he put out what he had available, its just the players werent arsed and wanted to be back at their clubs getting their 40-60k a week and thats all that matters to them, SO SAD and what an embarrassment to the country and the jersey :mad: .


the tiocfaidh ar la Celtic brigade would have passion for the Irish team unlike most barstoolers - politics and sports mix and just because your establishment views dont fit with theirs you insult them
Im so glad those *****s were beaten in Cyprus last night as this Irish support deserve nothing but derision

Billsthoughts
08/10/2006, 3:00 PM
Agree with Billy Lord on this one.
I dont go to Ireland matches because I dont feel the team is a proper reflection on the Island of Ireland,as in no Eircom League players in the team.
Also,the fact that most "Ireland fans" pledge themselfs to English clubs is the biggest contradiction ever.

why the **** should there be eircom league players in the team? They are not good enough. If you are watching the games week in week out and you still think they are then you know **** all about football. why do people support english teams? **** knows. why are our newspapers jammed with what is essentially english domestic news. billy lord your just an elitist ****ing snob. if 40000 suddenly started going to rovers tomorro you would be moaning about the "blow ins". if all football has done for ya is turn ya into a bitter old **** then maybe ya should get into something else?

skitz3
08/10/2006, 3:04 PM
I agree with Billy Lord on this!

May the Lepregoons choke on their wigs!

Soper
08/10/2006, 3:11 PM
Billsthoughts, cop on, you are wrong.Some EL players are good enough, stop acting the eejit.

Billsthoughts
08/10/2006, 3:17 PM
acting the eejit?
majority of them have gone throught the same system that those in the squad have come thru yet were deemed not good enough. a badly organised team of el players would have played just as badly.
and can we apply the same rigorous standards of supporter behaviour to the derry fans with their berets and their face paint? no I didnt think so.

skitz3
08/10/2006, 3:19 PM
and can we apply the same rigorous standards of supporter behaviour to the derry fans with their berets and their face paint? no I didnt think so.

Yes,some of us already have!

hoops1
08/10/2006, 3:22 PM
Agree with Billy Lord on this one.
I dont go to Ireland matches because I dont feel the team is a proper reflection on the Island of Ireland

I said the exact same thing on this site a few weeks ago but in stronger terms
and got threatened with a ban from the site:confused:
What also ****es me off is that we can get 30 thousand plus at an Ireland Game yet sometimes we dont get that
at all the national league games combined. Fans wonder why we are getting tanked by Cyprus
yet dont support there own league
National league success = International success

The Stars
08/10/2006, 3:40 PM
Sligoman by any chance were you gooning it up with a wig in Tolka on Tuesday? :p :rolleyes:

ya that was him:p
For the guy who said no Eircom League players are good enough for the International team,Kevin Doyle was playing in it 2 season's ago and look at him now.
How can you say they arent good enough unless you give them a chance?
Gamble should be in the starting team ahead of Kilbane for a start.

mypost
08/10/2006, 3:43 PM
why the **** should there be eircom league players in the team? They are not good enough.

And English lower league players are?? :confused:

18 months ago, Kevin Doyle was a NL journeyman, now, the press and Staunton are begging that he is fit for Wednesday. A lot of the players playing here, and in England are not good enough to play international football, but there are players good enough to play for us in both countries, and we should broaden our options, rather than sticking with the "no players" whinge, when it's blatantly false.

Billsthoughts
08/10/2006, 3:58 PM
name the players that are good enough to play for Ireland?
Given that fact that they are all only human and would want to be earning as much money as possible why arent they playing in england where the money is? is football that much of a vocation and a calling for them?
I dont think the EL is crap I just think to say we should replace what is there already with EL players just cause they play here is ******. up to international standard but yet couldnt make the step up to a lower league team in englands first team. well thats just a lie.
a league that can be won in the court and not on the pitch would suggest that its biggest enemy is within rather than anyone wearing a green wig or shaking a shamrock.

hoops1
08/10/2006, 4:05 PM
name the players that are good enough to play for Ireland?
Given that fact that they are all only human and would want to be earning as much money as possible why arent they playing in england where the money is? is football that much of a vocation and a calling for them?
I dont think the EL is crap I just think to say we should replace what is there already with EL players just cause they play here is ******. up to international standard but yet couldnt make the step up to a lower league team in englands first team. well thats just a lie.
a league that can be won in the court and not on the pitch would suggest that its biggest enemy is within rather than anyone wearing a green wig or shaking a shamrock.

Whatever about the argument of who is good enough now. The national
side is only going one way unless the national league is of standard to
produce players of International class regularly
The International team supporter needs to recognise this
and act accordingly

Billsthoughts
08/10/2006, 4:15 PM
I agree totally with this and you can check thru any previous posts on it to confirm this.

osarusan
08/10/2006, 4:21 PM
Whatever about the argument of who is good enough now. The national
side is only going one way unless the national league is of standard to
produce players of International class regularly
The International team supporter needs to recognise this
and act accordingly

I agree with this, but simply putting el players in the team now will not help to achieve that objective.

First we need to build better, bigger teams and stadiums, create a viable football infrastructure which will procuce these players.

sligoman
08/10/2006, 4:25 PM
Sligoman by any chance were you gooning it up with a wig in Tolka on Tuesday? :p :rolleyes:Yeah that was me. I'll wear it again too:p, it's just a bit of craic, people take these things too serious!

btw, their was another person wearing a wig on Thursday, not just me!

sfc red
08/10/2006, 4:26 PM
Can I nominate Billy Lord's post for POTM? Never been put better before :ball:

nedder
08/10/2006, 7:20 PM
Whatever about the argument of who is good enough now. The national
side is only going one way unless the national league is of standard to
produce players of International class regularly
The International team supporter needs to recognise this
and act accordingly


Spot on, hoops1.
But billylords rant about hats and face painting is just complete bulls**t

Billy Lord
08/10/2006, 10:35 PM
Given that our clubs have recently performed better in Europe than our national team, that is clear evidence that there are player here more than capable of performing well for Ireland.
How many of the current Ireland squad have European experience at their clubs? And if anyone thinks Portsmouth's reserves is better than the top of the EL it just shows that Ireland fans are clueless.

Billy Lord
08/10/2006, 10:48 PM
nedder etc: anyone who wears a wig, a stupid hat, sings 'Ole Ole' or gets their face painted is an areshole. It's just my opinion, so what? If you're happy looking like a complete spa on a dayout concession that's your perogative.

theworm2345
09/10/2006, 4:53 AM
All that's going for you are stupid hats, daft wigs,
What about the big blow-up hammers?

nedder
09/10/2006, 8:07 AM
nedder etc: anyone who wears a wig, a stupid hat, sings 'Ole Ole' or gets their face painted is an areshole. It's just my opinion, so what? If you're happy looking like a complete spa on a dayout concession that's your perogative.


Billy, never said i wear one, It just doesn't bother me in the slightest, and can't understand how it upsets you. Actually, i think its a deeper underlying problem that upsets you, like following english teams etc and a lack of interest in our local game, and i actually agrre with you on that

Dublin12
09/10/2006, 10:25 AM
Why did Richard Dunne get a standing ovation by a section of the Irish support when he was dismissed and we were losing?,seems to me half the support there were only interested in the beer and the suntan.

tetsujin1979
09/10/2006, 10:54 AM
Probably because he was the only player who was trying.

drinkfeckarse
09/10/2006, 11:07 AM
National league success = International success

Not necessarily, Brazil, Argentina and any half decent South American traditionally leave their very own leagues. Premiership= over rated. Serie A=corrupt. La Liga is very good but I don't see Spain winning World Cups etc




18 months ago, Kevin Doyle was a NL journeyman,

Are you for real?

hoops1
09/10/2006, 11:23 AM
Not necessarily, Brazil, Argentina and any half decent South American traditionally leave their very own leagues. Premiership= over rated. Serie A=corrupt. La Liga is very good but I don't see Spain winning World Cups etc

In a vast majority of those leagues you describe,
the players come through their own national leagues before they move away. They can compete at a very high level at home if they choose to do so and
still play in the national side. They dont solely rely on foreign leagues to
provide their players as they have home grown stars too.
They can stay at home and earn a living if they want and dont have to move
away.
Irish players dont have that option.They have to move away as there is little
comparison between the benefits at home and abroad
The above leagues have a bigger stream of quality players as a result of providing home grown players and picking exiles

galwayhoop
09/10/2006, 11:28 AM
First we need to build better, bigger teams and stadiums, create a viable football infrastructure which will procuce these players.

we definately need to try and develop the talent at home (both players and the league itself) as the players going over to england are not enough for us to have the pool required but to say we need bigger stadiums! is that for all the supporters who are left outside the eL grounds ticketless every weekend and unable to afford the large prices being demanded by the touts? we need better facilities and set-ups not bigger stadiums! even cork couldn't fill turners cross on friday night and they are one of the best supported teams in the league!

BTW i'd be interested to know what eL players we have who can make to step up? we surely have to have at least one or 2 - a centre half maybe or a midfielder. kevin doyle can't just of been turned into a good footballer in the 15 months or so he has been in england so there has to be some who should be given consideration before the likes of st. ledger and his ilk. hasn't there?

Pablo
09/10/2006, 11:36 AM
Ah yes, the Oirland fan! Shake a Shamrock for Oirland!

I gave up my 320 mile round trip to Ireland matches after I witnessed Ireland Fans cheering for Man United players in the Opposition team at lansdowne Road.

"ah deadly buzz Anto i like to see de boyz in grean win like but i hope Christiano scores cause i'm United all the way wha"

NY Hoop
09/10/2006, 1:53 PM
Ah yes, the Oirland fan! Shake a Shamrock for Oirland!

I gave up my 320 mile round trip to Ireland matches after I witnessed Ireland Fans cheering for Man United players in the Opposition team at lansdowne Road.

"ah deadly buzz Anto i like to see de boyz in grean win like but i hope Christiano scores cause i'm United all the way wha"

Christ you should have been there when Ireland played manure in 1992. Majority of the crowd cheering on an english club over their OWN country. Shortly after I gave up going to lansdowne and have never gone back. These people are the enemy of the state. The nerve they have slagging off the EL without seeing the appalling hypocrisy of funding a foreign league:rolleyes:

Taking up what BL said. What has wearing a leprechaun outfit got to do with supporting a team? And dont give me "ah sure it's a bit of craic" rubbish. No other fans of other countries demean themselves to that level.

Majority of Irish fans who follow Ireland are a joke. Anyone see that **** screaming at the tv camera saturday? Go back to your barstool you clueless clown.

KOH

wws
09/10/2006, 2:03 PM
Christ you should have been there when Ireland played manure in 1992. Majority of the crowd cheering on an english club over their OWN country. Shortly after I gave up going to lansdowne and have never gone back. These people are the enemy of the state. The nerve they have slagging off the EL without seeing the appalling hypocrisy of funding a foreign league:rolleyes:

Taking up what BL said. What has wearing a leprechaun outfit got to do with supporting a team? And dont give me "ah sure it's a bit of craic" rubbish. No other fans of other countries demean themselves to that level.

Majority of Irish fans who follow Ireland are a joke. Anyone see that **** screaming at the tv camera saturday? Go back to your barstool you clueless clown.

KOH



thats just incorrect. nearly all countries have there leprechaun supporters
the danish - dressed up as vikings anyone? Mexico 86 ring any bells?
the dutch fans in matching village people orange dungarees?

the list of questionable head/suit gear is endless when it comes to national teams


only the brazilians are excused from body painting activities - for obvious reasons

Roadend
09/10/2006, 2:35 PM
There's a lot of people in here are in danger of injury if they fall from their hiiiiiiiiiiigh horses. Bloody hell, the holier than thou attitude in here is sickening, although not at all unsurprising.

NY Hoop
09/10/2006, 2:48 PM
thats just incorrect. nearly all countries have there leprechaun supporters
the danish - dressed up as vikings anyone? Mexico 86 ring any bells?
the dutch fans in matching village people orange dungarees?

the list of questionable head/suit gear is endless when it comes to national teams
only the brazilians are excused from body painting activities - for obvious reasons

Difference is they support their domestic leagues. If our crowd did they could turn up in miley's dungarees:D

KOH

Roadend
09/10/2006, 2:55 PM
How does one become hardcore, is there a special exam you can take or do you send away for a membership card?

hoops1
09/10/2006, 2:57 PM
It just comes to you in the moment you realise that 90%
of the lepregoons dont have a clue about the game

EalingGreen
09/10/2006, 3:12 PM
I dont go to Ireland matches because I dont feel the team is a proper reflection on the Island of Ireland

Does that mean we won't see you at Windsor on Wednesday evening, either?

"One team in Ireland, there's only One Team in Ireland..." ;)

nedder
09/10/2006, 3:13 PM
I don't wear a leprachaun suit. Can I apply to be hardcore?? or maybe I am already............

Roadend
09/10/2006, 3:14 PM
Click your heels together three times and say "I wish I was hardcore"