Squad announced for Czechs and Cyprus

[brine3]

alan quinn is a good callup, seeing as we're lacking in centre-midfield, to put things lightly.

i agree though that stan's comments since his appointment about building for 2010 are worrying. duff, dunne, given, finnan and keane - our best players by far - will all be in their 30s then. 2008 is really our last chance saloon with this group of players...

[theworm2345]

The stupidest part about this is that he might not even be around for 2010 if he doesnt step it up

[dr_peepee]

Has Stan called any replacements into the squad???

[theworm2345]

Has Stan called any replacements into the squad???
Alan Quinn

[eirebhoy]

I still think of Alan Quinn with a player of potential but I didn't realise he was 27. :eek: A decent player but not what we need. We've plenty of supporting midfielders of Quinn's ability. We need Carsley. :mad:

[Noelys Guitar]

Strange decision

[eirebhoy]

All in here:
http://foot.ie/showthread.php?t=42061&page=6

[Noelys Guitar]

Very strange call up. Nothing against Quinn but Carsley is playing better. And at 27 is this the future? Stans making it up as he goes along. His comments about dropping Keane if necessary and that nobody is safe sounds great in theory. But could easily backfire. Why does he need to go public with those type of comments a week before a crucial away game? He is like the madwomans ****e all over the place.

[Dodge]

He's obviously not going to call up Carsley. He's on record as saying he's planning for 2010 first and foremost.

For the record, if people are starting to demand Carsley in an Irish squad, we've fallen further than I realised

[ken foree]

request for andy reid's call-up was reportedly sent to spurs instead of charlton (guardian). pathetic, we are a joke at the moment.

[ifk101]

Just shows how desperate we are if Carsley's our saviour....

I don't want to be critical of Alan Quinn's call-up but surely McPhail is the player most deserving of a call-up if Carsley is going to be ignored.

[Stuttgart88]

Reid's Ireland recall sent to former club
Jon Brodkin
Monday October 2, 2006
The Guardian

Andy Reid must wonder how closely his career is being followed within the Football Association of Ireland after learning that the notice recalling him to the national squad last week was sent to his former club Tottenham Hotspur.
He joined Charlton this summer but the FAI sent his call-up notice along with Robbie Keane's to Spurs, who passed it to his current employers. Ireland play qualifiers in Cyprus on Saturday and against the Czech Republic in Dublin four days later but Reid will miss the first to work on his fitness in London after a hamstring injury from which he returned at the weekend.

(edit: just noticed kenforee pointing this out first!)

[shakermaker1982]

we are a joke! The FAI need to get their **** together fast. What next? Forget to book the plane tickets for Cyprus?!

[Stuttgart88]

Just shows how desperate we are if Carsley's our saviour....

I don't want to be critical of Alan Quinn's call-up but surely McPhail is the player most deserving of a call-up if Carsley is going to be ignored.

Nobody is saying Carsley is the saviour. Equally, I think nobody can argue that actually playing an experienced central midfielder in central midfield isn't preferable to the defender/winger combo that didn't work in Stuttgart. That's all.

Quinn vs McPhail? Value judgment that the manager is entitled to make. I've always been a big fan of Quinn - it's on the record here dozens of times.

Quinn & McPhail are very different in style. One is industrious, busy & mobile while the other is more sedantary & elegant. In my opinion there's room for both but I'd say that Stephen Ireland is keeping McPhail from the squad, not Alan Quinn.

Does anyone know if Staunton is actually utilising the full squad? It appears to me that there've been more pull outs than additions. If so, this is bizarre. Why not bring Daryl Murphy along instead of Elliott, as an example? Purely for experience.

[Stuttgart88]

i agree though that stan's comments since his appointment about building for 2010 are worrying. duff, dunne, given, finnan and keane - our best players by far - will all be in their 30s then. Remind me of the average ages of this year's World Cup finalists? Did any younger teams do well in WC06? I'd be worried if they were all 34+ but early 30s plus 4 or 5 lads in their mid 20s is probably the best recipe.

[eirebhoy]

Just shows how desperate we are if Carsley's our saviour....

Of course he's not our saviour but he could be the difference between qualification or not considering the only other options in the squad for his position are O'Shea and Douglas. He's much better than both imo.

[Reality Bites]

The Andy Reid wrong club thing is a Joke, makes us look like like fools in the football world, FAI employees are a joke from top down..

[macdermesser]

The Andy Reid wrong club thing is a Joke, makes us look like like fools in the football world, FAI employees are a joke from top down..

this should be a thread in itself .. just in case anyone missed this. A new level of buffoonry has been reached. A ten year old with a passing interest in football could tell you who Andy Reid plays for.

[BradyIsMyHero]

Building for the future is fine, but you have to win games in the meantime. Carsley should be in - no two ways about it

[Stuttgart88]

Maybe they sent his call-up to Blackburn Rovers?

[youngirish]

This building for the future line is absolute nonsense and shows that Staunton doesn't have a clue (as if there was any doubt). You don't build for the future in international football - there are no academies or young players to be bought, you make do with what you have. How does Staunton know we'll be any better off in 4 years? He doesn't even know Andy Reid plays for Spurs ffs. Hopefully he'll be gone by that time anyway. With this man in charge we've no hope of qualifying if that's his line and for the future too with all our best players gone and our poorer seeding resulting in us getting much tougher qualifying groups.

[blobbyblob]

Crazy baffling nonsence.

Once again I feel cheated by the FAI and the Republic of Ireland Team. Part of building for the future is giving developing players within a squad a fair crack at qualifying for major tournaments. From where Im sitting, it looks like RTE in the mid 90s - its a eurovision contest that we dont want to host so lets plot to lose it. The FAI are doing everything in their power to ensure we dont qualify.

In recent years, I felt that the team(with the exception of Given), cheated Kerr and the fans with their lack lustre, non commital performances on the pitch. This virus has spread outwards now into management structure. Staunton is no more than a puppet and Delaney is the puppet master.

All the while, mugs like me pay for tickets, take days off work, drive home until 2am after games. I will go on supporting the team as I am a proud Irishman but I now firmly believe that we are witnesses in a well executed plan to destroy international football in Ireland. The reason why - thats for another day.

Carsley - Cut your ties now.

[Stuttgart88]

He doesn't even know Andy Reid plays for Spurs for fu*k sake. Your typo aside, I don't think it's actually Staunton that sends the faxes!

[RogerMilla]

stan probably doesnt send otu the faxes but its symptomatic of the fai , 6 points fromt he next two games puts me firmly in stans corner , anything less and i dotn want to hear about building for the future as it wont placate me

[mjpcc]

Reckon we should all e-mail the FAI and complain about their incompetance.

info@fai.ie

[theworm2345]

Reckon we should all e-mail the FAI and complain about their incompetance.

info@fai.ie
I wish I could, but they already dont like me. I think they blocked my IP because of all the national team videos I have, though none are DVD Rips :(

[cavan_fan]

Just trying to work out who is in the squad now. From the orginal squad S Reid, Kavanagh and Elliot (?) have pulled out and Quinn has been called up. Also, A Reid is only there for the Czech game. Is this right.

[Stuttgart88]

Yes, I think. But not sure if Elliott is definitely gone yet.

[shakermaker1982]

I thought Elliott was seriously crocked last week?! Christ if they (FAI) are worried they are losing money on the plane ticket from Durham airport then let em give it to Murphy.....

[Stuttgart88]

I'd find it incredible if they didn't. One report I read says they're taking 22 players. If he's building for 2010 why not bring along a 23rd?

[theworm2345]

I doubt Elliott will be fit for Cyprus and is probably 25/75 for the Czechs. Staunton will most likely take him along regardless because he is very stubborn and cannot admit being wrong, for example by picking him when hes hurt

[Paddy Garcia]

Maybe they sent his call-up to Blackburn Rovers?


:D :D very good, suggests Stan keeps this excuse in reserve

[Noelys Guitar]

One Anto Reid of the Kimmage over 40's league has just been called into the squad. He stated he was OTM on receiving a fax from the FAI at his Sundrive road off licence. Reid has already stated he will not let anybody down and hopes to be part of Stans plans for the 2024 World Cup!

[shakermaker1982]

sky sports.com 2nd Oct 06

Everton midfielder Lee Carsley hopes to win a return to the Republic of Ireland setup after clarifying his availability with Steve Staunton.

Carsley came out of international retirement last month after quitting in 2004 to concentrate on his club career and family commitments.

The 32-year-old missed out on a place in the squad for upcoming Euro 2008 qualifiers against Cyprus and Czech Republic.

Carsley was disappointed to be left out of Staunton's latest squad but has since spoken with the Republic boss to clear up the confusion surrounding his availability.

The former Coventry midfielder has previously been capped 29 times by his country but is hoping to get the chance to extend that number when Staunton announces future squads.

"I have spoken with him now," Carsley told EvertonTV. "We got our wires crossed because he thought I wanted to do something else.

"I have had a chat now and it is all sorted.

"Hopefully when the next squad is announced I will be involved."


well that is brilliant news. The next squad announcement does not include the Czech game!!! I also didn't know Foley from Luton was on stand by. What is Stan's problem with regards to the captain of Leicester?

[theworm2345]

That means its sorted, it doesnt mean he will be in the next squad

[eirebhoy]

Why doesn't he get Carsley in the squad for the next 2 games? The squad doesn't fly out until Wednesday so there's plenty of time for him to meet up with the players. He's hardly needed to play the 2 games against San Marino.

[blobbyblob]

If i was carsley i'd tell him get stuffed at this stage. joke - Condolences to Alan Quinn and Family

[geysir]

So Lee is misunderstood, no explanation of what Lee was supposed to have wanted or how Staunton took on board that particular crossed wire.
I wouldn't have thought that there were so many wires in either heads in order to have a crossing. Lee didn't expand on why or what wires were involved or clear up any confusion over his initial decision to retire or on the rumours that he wanted a starting place.
Many are jumping to conclusions that Stan is at fault.
There's one big criteria for judging Stan and that's how the team performs on the pitch. No amount of expertise in media communication, interrogations (interviews), dress code, hair style or elocution can disguise that.

[blobbyblob]

There's one big criteria for judging Stan and that's how the team performs on the pitch. .

Seleted the strongest panel to fill that team also plays a big part in that judgement.

[Stuttgart88]

There's one big criteria for judging Stan and that's how the team performs on the pitch. No amount of expertise in media communication, interrogations (interviews), dress code, hair style or elocution can disguise that.

Sure, it's results that count but having people on your side is a big help to deflect criticism when things go wrong on the pitch. That's when good communication & avoiding gaffes like the McCarthy vs Doherty comparison come to your aid.

[blobbyblob]

Reports on today fm that Doyle is now out for sure

[geysir]

Sure, it's results that count but having people on your side is a big help to deflect criticism when things go wrong on the pitch. That's when good communication & avoiding gaffes like the McCarthy vs Doherty comparison come to your aid.

Well, you tell me :)
Stan ridiculed because he couldn't remember the exact fixture mentioned in a scouting report.
Because he delegates, he is accused of a lack of meticulous scouting preparation. Because he starts a 10 line answer to a question with you tell me. Remember, this is a guy who has lived in an ultra paranoid media solitary confinement for 15 years, who kept his lips sealed about all and sundry when others couldn't wait to barter their banal thoughts.
Surely we can be patient while Stan learns the minor details of management, taking a deep breath, defreeze, communicate with his arms unfolded with no need to regard a microphone as an assault weapon and regard interviewers as a conduit to communicate with the supporters even with the knowledge that the media will scrutinise every word to manufacture every possible twist.

[Stuttgart88]

I'm not sure whether you're agreeing or disagreeing with me there!

Of course Stan's allowed to delegate. The Doc vs McCarthy thing was a slip. So what, you're right. But it does give those who are quick to criticise him ammunition to beat him with that's all. I was merely pointing out the benefit of better communication.

I didn't realise "you tell me" was followed by 10 further lines.

[geysir]

Just my version of putting things into perspective.

here's the 10 lines :) spoken in the "mixed area", same defensive defiant attitude but more expansive than when frozen in front of the tv camera.

Asked how he can improve things 'in terms of creating chances from open play' he's nonplussed.
"You tell me about the first half.
We had as many chances,
if not more.
We had the Germans pinned in their own half,
and you saw throughout the World Cup
how they pinned teams back - for 20 minutes
they didn't know what hit them.
I can't ask anything more than that.
The Germans probably won't
have a harder game here."

[endabob1]

Just looking at the original squad 3 midfielders picked (A.Reid, S.Reid & Kavanagh) that won't be available for Cypurs and Quinn called up as a replacement not available , so 4 midfielders out and he still refuses to call up Carsley. He's no Pele but to suggest that he's that far down the pecking order suggests to me that there's something not quite right between Stan & Carsley.