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Razors left peg
23/12/2009, 10:41 PM
Villa look even better though, I wonder if Martin O'Neill ever considered making a move for him given the Celtic connection. They're pretty strong on the wings though at present I suppose!

I cant see Villa needing to sign any other wingers, Birmingham with the new Chinese investors could be possible. Liverpool probably wouldnt be a great move for him simply because I dont think Benitez would get the best out of him.

Crosby87
23/12/2009, 11:29 PM
Liverpool probably wouldnt be a great move for him simply because I dont think Benitez would get the best out of him.

Well soon it wont matter what Rafa thinks, no?

tetsujin1979
24/12/2009, 12:02 AM
Where would he play in the current Liverpool team, and who would be dropped to accommodate him?

Colbert Report
24/12/2009, 1:12 AM
Where would he play in the current Liverpool team, and who would be dropped to accommodate him?

Benitez played Dossena on the left and Kuyt on the right against Portsmouth a few days ago. You'd have to think that McGeady would be a much more creative winger than either of them.

drummerboy
24/12/2009, 7:49 AM
I think Aidan would do well to pick up a club in the top half of the Premier League. He is a little better than Hunt and a less effective than Duff.

Mayo Red
24/12/2009, 7:55 AM
Benitez played Dossena on the left and Kuyt on the right against Portsmouth a few days ago. You'd have to think that McGeady would be a much more creative winger than either of them.

Would have to agree with you there, and Dossena along with the overrated Babel are linked with being offloaded in the January transfer window aswell.

SkStu
24/12/2009, 2:18 PM
Man U fan then eh..??;):D
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toffee :o

Acornvilla
24/12/2009, 2:21 PM
toffee :o
drool....

Fixer82
24/12/2009, 2:48 PM
He is a little better than Hunt.


can't agree there. Hunt has made great impact for ireland at pivotal moments with some vital assists. The only game I remember McGeady shining was Georgia in Croker...

Mayo Red
24/12/2009, 6:33 PM
toffee :o

Worse again, with the honourable exception of Seamie Coleman though!!!!;):D

The Legend
26/12/2009, 1:17 AM
i doubt if he's going anywhere, cause he's rubbish... sorry lads, but hes done nothing in an ireland shirt.

Colbert Report
26/12/2009, 5:50 AM
i doubt if he's going anywhere, cause he's rubbish... sorry lads, but hes done nothing in an ireland shirt.

True, but he's been great for Celtic for the past five years or so. He deserves a move to a better league.

noddy102
26/12/2009, 11:26 AM
True, but he's been great for Celtic for the past five years or so. He deserves a move to a better league.

So were Hartson, Sutton, Venegoor of Hesselink and currently Samaras.

Razors left peg
26/12/2009, 1:41 PM
So were Hartson, Sutton, Venegoor of Hesselink and currently Samaras.
Venegoor of Hesselink and Samaras were/are never great for Celtic

tetsujin1979
08/01/2010, 9:40 AM
Lawton: McGeady must take his chance: http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/mcgeady-must-take-his-chance-2004615.html

Junior
08/01/2010, 12:21 PM
Dont know anything about Lawton, but the opening few passages in that article didnt quite read/flow correctly - to me anyway.

McGeady is 23 not 25.

A serious £10m+ bid will likely land McGeady down South in January, no matter what Peter Lawell and Mowbray says in public - Every player has their price as the cliche goes.

jbyrne
08/01/2010, 3:06 PM
A serious £10m+ bid will likely land McGeady down South in January, no matter what Peter Lawell and Mowbray says in public - Every player has their price as the cliche goes.

but does mcgeady have any interest in moving? it doesnt look like it to me

Royal rover
08/01/2010, 3:41 PM
McGeady will leave once the right offer comes in - he had his problems under strachan - things on the field haven't really improved under Mowbray - Celtic were a better side under strachan as well , Mowbray has his own ideas about who he wants to bring in and could do with the money.

seanfhear
08/01/2010, 3:45 PM
Dont know anything about Lawton, but the opening few passages in that article didnt quite read/flow correctly - to me anyway.

McGeady is 23 not 25.

A serious £10m+ bid will likely land McGeady down South in January, no matter what Peter Lawell and Mowbray says in public - Every player has their price as the cliche goes.
£10m would be a lot of money for Aiden if there were not conditions about appearances/performance attached.

geysir
08/01/2010, 4:54 PM
As Junior presumes, it will have to be an offer over £10m and serious.
A serious offer means they already have a very good idea of what he is about and paying for what they expect him to deliver.
No doubt that he is regarded as a progressing talent, his growing profile with Ireland over this last campaign with some very good displays, will have helped bolster up the value of that impression.

carloz
08/01/2010, 7:08 PM
McGeady is not worth 10mil ffs, as for his growing profile with Ireland? So S.Hunt must be worth 12mil then cos Hunt has done more in an Irish shirt than McGeady, which says a lot about McGeady.
Stuart Downing went for £12 million in the summer...while injured. They are two very similar players so judging by this I think anything between 8-11 million sounds fair for McGeady

Razors left peg
08/01/2010, 7:16 PM
I think he will go for about 8 million if he does leave. 5 million wouldnt be enough for Celtic to sell their best player and 10 million does sound too much at this stage of his career

irishultra
08/01/2010, 7:22 PM
he costs how much the club who want to invest in him see he's worth. i personally don't think any top 10 english club would sign him. birmingham city maby?

Brendan 82
08/01/2010, 7:39 PM
he costs how much the club who want to invest in him see he's worth. i personally don't think any top 10 english club would sign him. birmingham city maby?

I think Babel is his #1 target but he might settle for McGeady if the price was right. I just have a hard time seeing McGeady leaving Celtic, don't know why but it would be surreal seeing him play for a different club.

irishultra
08/01/2010, 7:41 PM
yeah same here. i dont think he'll be as good as he promised to be either, because his football brain hasn't really improved

carloz
08/01/2010, 7:43 PM
I know and it was ridiulous money for Downing, maybe McGeady will be in that bracket but my value of him would be 5 million tops.

Personally id agree with you, but in the over inflated market that is English football, he is worth 10 million at least. Berbatov at over 30 million, Nani 17 million. There are plenty of examples. If McGeady were to be valued at 5 million id have no doubt that at least 10 Premiership teams would want him.

tetsujin1979
08/01/2010, 8:11 PM
McGeady is not worth 10mil ffs, as for his growing profile with Ireland? So S.Hunt must be worth 12mil then cos Hunt has done more in an Irish shirt than McGeady, which says a lot about McGeady.

yeah, but at club level, McGeady's played and scored in the Champions League, won trophies and player of the year awards at Celtic, whereas Hunt has spent the majority of his career outside the top division.

Razors left peg
08/01/2010, 9:23 PM
I was going by his International record....

so none of his games for his club count towards showing if hes a good player?

elroy
08/01/2010, 9:29 PM
On newstalk last night, Gilesy reckoned McGeady would be sold for about 5m. Dont necessarily agree with it, particularly if Babel is worth more than 8m. Would def like to see McGeady take on a new challenge, leave Celtic and make a name for himself in the EPL or one of Europes top leagues. Wouldnt be all that confident about it happening though.

Junior
08/01/2010, 9:41 PM
McGeady will leave once the right offer comes in - he had his problems under strachan - things on the field haven't really improved under Mowbray - Celtic were a better side under strachan as well , Mowbray has his own ideas about who he wants to bring in and could do with the money.

Disagree. Things have changed, Aiden appears to be enjoying his football again and is playing with confidence and enjoying life under Mowbray. Results havent gone our way this season, that is true but as one poster says above and as McGeady has gone on record saying - he is happy with Celtic for the time being but does have ambitions to play in one of the superior leagues at some point in his career. At this point it wont be his choice, imo.


McGeady is not worth 10mil ffs, as for his growing profile with Ireland? So S.Hunt must be worth 12mil then cos Hunt has done more in an Irish shirt than McGeady, which says a lot about McGeady.

He's more than worth it in the context of transfer fees in the current market place. Are any of them worth it? well thats a completely different discussion.


£10m would be a lot of money for Aiden if there were not conditions about appearances/performance attached.


I think he will go for about 8 million if he does leave. 5 million wouldnt be enough for Celtic to sell their best player and 10 million does sound too much at this stage of his career

Celtic have already knocked back a £10m bid for McGeady from Birmingham and slapped a big "Not for Sale" sign on him. Mowbray and Lawell are serious about wanting to keep him at Celtic - It is going to take a serious £10m+ offer to get him this January. Remember he is only 18 months in to a 5 year contract.

If the likes of St-Ledger are being valued at £3m, Fortune was bought for circa £3.5m in the summer. Two wexamples of far inferior players vastly less experience on the European or International stage. If Celtic are to lose their biggest asset - it has to be worthwhile. Unfortunately the EPL clubs think they can come in and take the pi$$ in their valuations and offers for players. Thankfully for Celtic, McGeady is under a long contract and if he does go it will be for the right price.


I think Babel is his #1 target but he might settle for McGeady if the price was right. I just have a hard time seeing McGeady leaving Celtic, don't know why but it would be surreal seeing him play for a different club.

Mcleish appears to have given up on McGeady for now based on the above knockback.

irishultra
08/01/2010, 10:32 PM
i have seen players like mcgeady go for cheap price, samir nasri playing in a better league and a better player than mcgeady was only like 8 million i remember.

Colbert Report
09/01/2010, 1:19 AM
If he has any ambition whatsoever he'll be a man and move to away from the SPL, which is a league in serious decline after the television money debacle.

carloz
09/01/2010, 9:26 AM
i have seen players like mcgeady go for cheap price, samir nasri playing in a better league and a better player than mcgeady was only like 8 million i remember.

Nasri has been very average since he joined Arsenal and looked every bit of an 8 million pound player

seanfhear
09/01/2010, 9:30 AM
What has Aiden left to prove in Scotland and sadly for now at least it is a league in decline.

Opportunities to go to the top leagues do not come all the time.

I believe if a player is confident that he can make it he would want to take the opportunity.

A lot depends on the players personality/ambition and so on. And if the move takes place a bit of luck does not hurt either.

Acornvilla
09/01/2010, 12:34 PM
Nasri has been very average since he joined Arsenal and looked every bit of an 8 million pound player
dont think a broken ankle has helped the kid.. i'd judge him moreso over the rest of the season and the next

TrapAPony
09/01/2010, 4:01 PM
10 million for McGeady?? He definitely isn't worth that. Considering that Liam Lawrence kept him off/is keeping him off the Irish team that would make the Stoke City sub worth how much then??

Razors left peg
09/01/2010, 4:10 PM
10 million for McGeady?? He definitely isn't worth that. Considering that Liam Lawrence kept him off/is keeping him off the Irish team that would make the Stoke City sub worth how much then??

Im a fan of Liam Lawrence but he wouldnt be capable of some of McGeadys perfomances in the Champions League

Fixer82
09/01/2010, 4:37 PM
Im a fan of Liam Lawrence but he wouldnt be capable of some of McGeadys perfomances in the Champions League

no but he might deliver a decent final ball....

tetsujin1979
09/01/2010, 5:12 PM
10 million for McGeady?? He definitely isn't worth that. Considering that Liam Lawrence kept him off/is keeping him off the Irish team that would make the Stoke City sub worth how much then??
similar to the comparison with Stephen Hunt, Lawrence has spent the majority of his career in the lower divisions, whereas McGeady has played and scored in the Champions League, and won Player of the Year and league trophies at Celtic

no but he might deliver a decent final ball....
according to the official SPL stats (from http://www.scotprem.com/content/default.asp?page=home_Statistics&category=20 ) McGeady has the second most assists in the SPL this season

Razors left peg
09/01/2010, 5:35 PM
no but he might deliver a decent final ball....

like the one he put in for Celtics equaliser against Rangers last week!
You are right though, his crossing is way too inconsistant at the moment but I do think he is starting to improve in that.The Celtic fan part of me wants him to stay at Celtic but realistically for him to improve I think he has to be playing with and against better players every week so the time has come for him to move

Paddy Garcia
09/01/2010, 10:01 PM
McGeady is not worth 10mil ffs, as for his growing profile with Ireland? So S.Hunt must be worth 12mil then cos Hunt has done more in an Irish shirt than McGeady, which says a lot about McGeady.

Whatever Hunt is worth, McGeady is worth at least double. McGeady is a fantastic talent who will have an outstanding career with Ireland.

Unless, of course, you value running around headless & getting sent off in crucial games.

Paddy Garcia
09/01/2010, 10:46 PM
He turned the game against Georgia for a start - put them entirely on the back foot with his attacking display.

And the point being is that he will only improve - unlikely Hunt will.

And why do you think Hunt is valued at about £3m and McGeady at least double that?

Colbert Report
10/01/2010, 3:07 AM
He turned the game against Georgia for a start - put them entirely on the back foot with his attacking display.

And the point being is that he will only improve - unlikely Hunt will.

And why do you think Hunt is valued at about £3m and McGeady at least double that?

Stephen Patrick Hunt (born 1 August 1981 in Portlaoise, County Laois)

Aiden McGeady (born 4 April 1986 in Glasgow)

Paddy Garcia
10/01/2010, 8:49 AM
And your point ? Everyone bore in 1981 is worth £3m or less - not so. More to the point do you know what Hunt was worth when he was 24 - a time when there was much more money in the game and inflated prices?

Yapster - I was answering your criticism that McGeady had done nothing for Ireland. Regardless of Georgia's qualities this was one game we were not going to win & McGeady turned it. You seem to want to undermine him for some reason.

Stuttgart88
10/01/2010, 8:50 AM
like the one he put in for Celtics equaliser against Rangers last week!
You are right though, his crossing is way too inconsistant at the moment but I do think he is starting to improve in that. The Celtic fan part of me wants him to stay at Celtic but realistically for him to improve I think he has to be playing with and against better players every week so the time has come for him to moveI'm of a similarly positive disposition as you Razor, but I'm afraid that ball was about the only decent final ball he put in in about 15 attempts! His ability on the ball and facing a direct opponent is top class, but has crossing and shooting was awful, and his first touch clumsy when it counted.

Razors left peg
10/01/2010, 11:36 AM
I'm of a similarly positive disposition as you Razor, but I'm afraid that ball was about the only decent final ball he put in in about 15 attempts! His ability on the ball and facing a direct opponent is top class, but has crossing and shooting was awful, and his first touch clumsy when it counted.

yeah I know, that is why I did say that his crossing was way too inconsistant at the moment.Theres no doubt there are areas of his game that he needs to improve but for me there is no doubting his talent

Colbert Report
10/01/2010, 12:18 PM
And your point ? Everyone bore in 1981 is worth £3m or less - not so. More to the point do you know what Hunt was worth when he was 24 - a time when there was much more money in the game and inflated prices?

You asked why McGeady is worth more than Hunt. Age is certainly a factor.

Hunt was worth peanuts at age 24, but at age 27 he was worth at least five million according to this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Hunt_(footballer_born_1981)#cite_note-14

strangeirish
10/01/2010, 1:13 PM
You asked why McGeady is worth more than Hunt. Age is certainly a factor.

Hunt was worth peanuts at age 24, but at age 27 he was worth at least five million according to this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Hunt_(footballer_born_1981)#cite_note-14
Five million peanuts is a lot.

seanfhear
10/01/2010, 5:26 PM
Five million peanuts is a lot.
yum I like peanuts

Junior
11/01/2010, 9:32 AM
I'm of a similarly positive disposition as you Razor, but I'm afraid that ball was about the only decent final ball he put in in about 15 attempts! His ability on the ball and facing a direct opponent is top class, but has crossing and shooting was awful, and his first touch clumsy when it counted.


yeah I know, that is why I did say that his crossing was way too inconsistant at the moment.Theres no doubt there are areas of his game that he needs to improve but for me there is no doubting his talent


That about sums it up.

His crossing is very inconsistent, but the stats prove his assists tally is consistently high. They are generally from crosses or threaded through balls. So, his final ball can be good but needs to be good more often.

McGeady more often than not tends to go for the little dink type cross, gently floated in to the box. I sometimes wonder whether the 'whipped in at speed' type cross (whether low or high) would be a better option? Its the type of cross that Hunt would favour, Im not sure there is any more accuracy in it or can be deemed a 'better final ball', but it certainly gives the impression of being a better final ball and can cause defences to panic more.

His shooting/finishing is really awful for a guy with his skill. He needs to spend some time with a Henrik type figure (not Robbie, in my book at least) or equivalent and try and learn some of the coolness and art to finishing. Even Darron Gibson could give him some pointers on long range shooting.