Aiden McGeady

[Razors left peg]

How long is it before people take off the Celtic blinkers and focus on Ireland which is what this forum is about.

It makes no difference to Ireland whether AMG is POTY is SPL or CL. What matters is when he pulls on the green for Ireland.

Like it or not, the SPL is a poor standard of football and being 'star man' in a non-significant CL game is totally immaterial to the Ireland team.

I hope AMG, when he pulls on the green turns out to be a class international player, From what I have seen in all of his 20+ ROI appearances the chances of it happening are slim to Nil.

I just think he is another player who performs exceptionally well at club level in a sub standard league.

I hope he might benefit from a move to Premier League but I doubt he will.

His Ireland form recently has been very good. As a winger there are times when he will lose the ball when tryin to beat a player and people tend to jump on that and point out that he is crap.

[paul_oshea]

stupid celtic cant even beat hearts at home. Im losing money on them :evil:

[Superhoops]

His Ireland form recently has been very good. We must be watching different players.

v Georgia: gave the ball away too easily. Was better on the right and good cross for Doyle's goal. When he was moved to the left he was not in the game and eventuially repalced by Andy Keogh

v Montenegro: attrocious first half, lost the ball far too many times. I can't remember him beating a defender once. A bit better in the second half, one good cross but blew the best best chance of the game with a weak shot.

v Cyprus: had a lot of the ball, but apart from one ball when he released Duff, not much end product for the amount of possession. One shot in the second half.

Over the three games too inconsistent, average at best, definitely not very good.

[Superhoops]

why does he automatically have to play in england? does italy or spain not figure for you?
Spain, Italy, Germany, EPL, anywhere away from the poor standard of the SPL. I want to see McGeady develop into a top player and he can only do that away from SPL. Being a big fish in a small pool doesn't mean its a big fish.

[eirebhoy]

We must be watching different players.

v Georgia: gave the ball away too easily. Was better on the right and good cross for Doyle's goal. When he was moved to the left he was not in the game and eventuially repalced by Andy Keogh

v Montenegro: attrocious first half, lost the ball far too many times. I can't remember him beating a defender once. A bit better in the second half, one good cross but blew the best best chance of the game with a weak shot.

v Cyprus: had a lot of the ball, but apart from one ball when he released Duff, not much end product for the amount of possession. One shot in the second half.

Over the three games too inconsistent, average at best, definitely not very good.
I thought he played well against Montenegro. Certainly a strong contender for motm if he scored that chance. At the end of the day he created most of our chances so far in this campaign.

[Maroon 7]

We must be watching different players.

v Georgia: gave the ball away too easily. Was better on the right and good cross for Doyle's goal. When he was moved to the left he was not in the game and eventuially repalced by Andy Keogh

v Montenegro: attrocious first half, lost the ball far too many times. I can't remember him beating a defender once. A bit better in the second half, one good cross but blew the best best chance of the game with a weak shot.

v Cyprus: had a lot of the ball, but apart from one ball when he released Duff, not much end product for the amount of possession. One shot in the second half.

Over the three games too inconsistent, average at best, definitely not very good.

Very good might be pushing it but he's definitely been fairly good so far in qualifying. Has been our most creative player anyway over the three games although Duff was better in that regard against Cyprus.

[Superhoops]

I was pointing out the simularity to that post and the critisism by eamonn dunphy. Aiden will never be good enough for dunphy and judginf from the previous post that poster is unable to form his own opinion of player. I would hazard a guess that he does not like cristiano ronaldo aswell.
I am not interested in what Dunphy has to say. I have been watching football for long enough to form my own opinion of any player.

For the umpteenth time, I hope McGeady turns out to be a world beater. From what I have seen of him so far for Ireland, I think he has been very ordinary. After 22 caps, if he is good enough he ought to be showing it by now.

I can only judge him on what he has done for Ireland as I don't watch SPL and Celtic would not be my first choice of a CL game.

BTW, I am not a Man U fan but I love watching Ronaldo when he concentrates on playing football. He is a world class player. If McGeady gets to be half as good and effective in a game as Ronaldo he will be good enough. I am sure I am no different to many who don't like Ronaldo when he resorts to the whinging and the diving.

[The Fly]

...........insomnia sufferer here.......

.....anyway - over on the Celtic forums they are saying there is a rumour that there will be a big announcement made about Aiden's future later on today. Basically the rumour is that he will be leaving in January after repeated fallings out with Gordon Strachan.
(one rumoured destination is Bayern Munich for £10m):)

[Razors left peg]

...........insomnia sufferer here.......

.....anyway - over on the Celtic forums they are saying there is a rumour that there will be a big announcement made about Aiden's future later on today. Basically the rumour is that he will be leaving in January after repeated fallings out with Gordon Strachan.
(one rumoured destination is Bayern Munich for £10m):)

Replacement for Ribery???

[irishfan86]

Would McGeady play ahead of Ribery and Schweinstager on the wings though? Not sure Bayern would be a good move.

I think Bayern is a better team than Celtic, but is the German League far superior than the SPL?

[Junior]

Was in Glasgow at the weekend and the rumours of a McGeady/Strachan fallout have certainly risen to a new level.

McGeady played poorly against Hearts. The extra yard of pace he discovered last season seems to be gone. The Hearts RB (Neilson I think) was booked very early on in the game, yet McGeady rarely troubled him, never beat him for pace and went down looking for soft frees on a number occasions. The body language was all wrong to me - which was disappointing to see.

Im now beginning to think that if a decent offer comes in January he'll be off. And by decent I mean £4-5m upwards. If a £10m offer came in Id snatch their hands off and Ive always been a big McGeady supporter.

[gspain]

I've heard through friends that he is off too although more likely to a premiership club. Middlesboro as a replacement for Downing (if he goes to Tottenham) is one possibility.

[irishultra]

Would McGeady play ahead of Ribery and Schweinstager on the wings though? Not sure Bayern would be a good move.

I think Bayern is a better team than Celtic, but is the German League far superior than the SPL?


Is that a joke?

[eirebhoy]

Yeh it's looking likely that he might leave.


McGeady on the verge of Celtic exit
Exclusive by HUGH MacDONALD, Chief Sportswriter

Aiden McGeady is poised to leave Celtic after a row with manager Gordon Strachan.

Top-level talks will take place between club directors today after the Irish internationalist and the Celtic manager clashed in the wake of Saturday's 1-1 draw with Heart of Midlothian at Parkhead. The most likely outcome is that the player will be allowed to leave Glasgow with England or Bayern Munich in Germany, his most likely destinations.

more... (http://www.theherald.co.uk/sport/headlines/display.var.2475196.0.McGeady_on_the_verge_of_Celt ic_exit.php)

Schweinsteiger signed a new contract with Bayern over the weekend so I doubt they're still interested.

[Junior]

Aiden McGeady to meet Celtic chiefs over dressing room row - DAILY RECORD
GORDON STRACHAN and Peter Lawwell will today decide how to punish Aiden McGeady after the little Celtic winger's big mouth got him into more trouble with his boss.

Record Sport first revealed in September that McGeady's stormy relationship with his manager had reached crisis point after the Republic of Ireland internationalist was barred from a team inquest into an Old Firm derby defeat at Parkhead because he couldn't be trusted to hold his tongue. And his inability to hold back resurfaced on Saturday when he snapped at Strachan during a heated dressing room discussion after the 1-1 draw with Hearts.

It's believed Strachan dragged the winger into the doctor's room at Celtic Park where the two clashed over the player's dressing room outburst.

The manager and chief executive Lawwell are scheduled to meet this afternoon to thrash out what should be done with the 22-year-old.

Senior Celtic sources were predicting last night that McGeady will be hit with a fine for breaching Strachan's strict disciplinary codes but stressed this latest flashpoint does not mean he will be put up for sale in January. However, it is now clear if a big-money offer is tabled in the New Year then Strachan may be tempted to cut his losses with a player who refuses to toe the line.

Record Sport understands McGeady was not the primary target of Strachan's outburst and that others, such as Georgios Samaras, Scott Brown and Gary Caldwell were all singled out for even more savage criticism as the manager conducted his on-thespot post-mortem.

But while the trio accepted responsibility for their part in a dismal performance, McGeady rallied against Strachan when his contribution was scrutinised.

We can also reveal some senior players attempted to shout McGeady down to stop him from becoming embroiled in a blazing row with the boss but even though the flashpoint was defused relatively quickly, Strachan feels his authority has been undermined once too often by a repeat offender.

Our source said: "The most irritating thing for the manager is it's always Aiden who has too much to say. There were others who took a real pounding from the gaffer and, in comparison, Aiden got off relatively lightly.

"But he was the one who took exception to what was said and, as usual, he had to have the last word.

"The rest of the players understand that Gordon Strachan is the reason they have won three successive titles and, accordingly, they show him the respect he deserves."

It is expected the Celtic manager will make a public announcement in the next 24 hours after his showdown talks with Lawwell.



Ok its the Daily Record - A Red Rag - but more fuel for the fire. It looks like MGeady is not the only one with a loose tongue in the dressing room.

Will be interesting to see if Strachan does make a public statement though.

As I said in an earlier post McGeadys body language was all wrong on Saturday - It was Ronaldo-esque whinging, arms flailing, feeling hardly done by when in reality he was just having a stinker.

It will be interesting to see how this unfolds.......

PS: Sorry if I should have posted a snippet and a link but I just got the article in an email.

[irishultra]

i hope he leaves and id love if bayern took a punt on him.

[tetsujin1979]

McGeady suspended for 2 weeks, and fined 2 weeks wages for a breach of club discipline: http://www.celticfc.net/news/stories/news_161208154708.aspx

[EAFC_rdfl]

maybe now he'll step back into line, Im first to admit I've defended him on here regularly but purely for football reasons, hes only 22 and has no right picking arguements with strachan, like him (strachan) or not. Will he take it like a man or throw the toys out??

[HammerNThongs]

Yeh it's looking likely that he might leave.



Schweinsteiger signed a new contract with Bayern over the weekend so I doubt they're still interested.

Rumors have been going on that Madrid are after Ribery though as they need a winger due to Arjen Robbens affections for the First Aid Room and the fact that they dont actually have another one anyway, so maybe they are looking at him with that in mind

[livehead1]

Can't see him playing for Celtic again now. He has been banned for two games but more importantly he has been suspended from training for two weeks. Therefore he will lost a hell of a lot of fitness. This will bring him up to the January transfer window where I believe he will be sold.

[seanfhear]

If Celtic get a good offer for Aiden then I am sure he will be off.It may be for the best and I hope Aiden can get a transfer to a club that can be an attacking force without expecting Aiden to do too much defensive work.
To be honest how much more can Aiden achieve at Celtic.I do not mean any disrespect to Celtic but he needs to test himself in a better quality league than the scottish league.
Hopefully Celtic can get a good price and it may be a good deal for everyone.

[co. down green]

I would be delighted to see McGeady leave Celtic and move to the Premiership/ Bundesliga to further his career, he's only 22 and already has a wealth of experience in club football.

Hopefully Darren O'Dea can get away from Celtic in the Transfer window to a decent Championship side and get his career back on track.

[eirebhoy]

McGeady's agent said he's going to appeal the suspension and it seems he's still furious. If he wasn't a Celtic fan I think it'd be a transfer request he'd be handing in and not an appeal. I can't see Strachan letting him back without an apology so they'll need someone to mediate here as Aiden hardly feels he owes an apology if he's appealing.

Link to an audio interview with his agent here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/7783858.stm

Interesting answer to the last question. Looks like his future at Celtic might depend on this appeal. And if some panel overturn this decision I can't see Strachan accepting him back.

[The Fly]

If Aiden leaves Celtic in January, which now looks likely, he can't do much better than Bayern Munich. This could only be beneficial to his development as a player and therefore to our prime concern - the national side. If he were to go to England, the only club in the 'top 4' I could see him challenging for a starting berth, at this point in time, would be Liverpool.

Aside from the 'top 4' and perhaps including them, the premiership side I most like to see him join would be Aston Villa. For me Villa are a very progressive club and are building something promising for the future. They are only a few ingredients short of being solid contender for a top 4 spot in my opinion. They may even finish fourth this year - at the expense of Arsenal. It's still a small chance but one that is growing as the season progresses - as much a result of their own advances as it is of Arsenal's woes.

One ingredient Villa need is a number 10/someone to play off a main striker. This is McGeady's future as a player. He is not a natural winger. He has alluded to this himself, as has Martin O'Neill and our own Trapattoni. Trap said that he did intend to use McGeady in this role at some point in the future.

He is our most naturally talented player and could with the proper dedication and if used properly go on to be a world class player. You don't attract the interest of a club like Bayern Munich if you don't have that potential. Regardless of his present circumstances at Celtic, it is time for him to move on anyway. Hopefully it will be to a club like the above two, for himself and for us.:)

[Colbert Report]

He'll be off to Middlesbrough in January I reckon.

He should have gone to Sunderland this past summer, they were offering him and Celtic big money. Maybe Roy would still have a job.

[irishfan86]

I guess if Ribery moves on as has been rumoured he might be a replacement. That would be a great situation for him.

[Drumcondra 69er]

He'll be off to Middlesbrough in January I reckon.

He should have gone to Sunderland this past summer, they were offering him and Celtic big money. Maybe Roy would still have a job.

Don't see why it'd have made much difference given that he couldn't man-manage the rest of the squad.

Reckon O'Neill will take him to Villa if he goes anywhere.

[celticV3]

McGeady is going. There is hope he may stay with him appealing his suspension but he won't stay with strachan there . If a move was to happen which now seems inevitable, then i would prefer he went to the bundesliga as he would prosper their more than in the premiership.

[geysir]

Sounds like it is being treated as death in the Celtic family.
(How did O'Neill handle those dressing room no holds barred encounters?)

Did he call Strachan a Scottish cxxt,
after Strachan called him a traitor to his country?
In the affair now known as Strapan :eek:

McGeady has shown well since Trap took over. It will be interesting to see if he is transferred and how he will adapt to another club.

[seanfhear]

Would Trappatoni recommend him to the Italian clubs if they asked his opinion.
The time is right for Aiden to go as he already has played a large amount of first team football for Celtic

[irishultra]

who tho? eirebhoy posted a thing a while back maby on another site about how celtic players earn more than for example aquilani earns with roma.

[geysir]

Hardly likely that anyone at Celtic is earning more than Aquilani, Italian salary caps have more holes than a strainer.

[Kingdom]

I love the way the article refers to Strachan as the real reason Celtic have won whatever amount of titles in a row. Some of Strachans dealings in the transfer market have been championship manager-esque (and not in a good way).

Hopefully McGeady gets out of there. It will be the only positive solution.

[weldoninhio]

It sounds like McGeady is one of those players who have gotten a few seasons under their belts and now believes his own hype. I know he is only young, but this year he seems to have realised he is a "footballer" and is beyond criticism. His career can go 2 ways now.

1) He keeps going the way he is headed now, believing he is better than he is and throwing strops and will end up at a mid table/low level club like middlesborough or wigan. Having the odd good game, but generally just plodding along

2) He has a word with himself, gets his head down and works hard at becoming the player he could be.

Neither of these are dependant on him staying at Celtic

But no matter who you are, having a go at your manager in front of the rest of the team when he comments on how poor you were, is not something you should ever do. If you feel you are being treated harshly, wait and have a word in private. The manager has to keep control of the whole squad. If Strachan had let McGeady away with it and said nothing, how would he handle the next time if Samaras, or Hartley has a go back??

[Superhoops]

It sounds like McGeady is one of those players who have gotten a few seasons under their belts and now believes his own hype. I know he is only young, but this year he seems to have realised he is a "footballer" and is beyond criticism. His career can go 2 ways now.

1) He keeps going the way he is headed now, believing he is better than he is and throwing strops and will end up at a mid table/low level club like middlesborough or wigan. Having the odd good game, but generally just plodding along

2) He has a word with himself, gets his head down and works hard at becoming the player he could be.

Neither of these are dependant on him staying at Celtic

But no matter who you are, having a go at your manager in front of the rest of the team when he comments on how poor you were, is not something you should ever do. If you feel you are being treated harshly, wait and have a word in private. The manager has to keep control of the whole squad. If Strachan had let McGeady away with it and said nothing, how would he handle the next time if Samaras, or Hartley has a go back??
Hope you are wrong but my bet is on (1).

[Maroon 7]

Hope you are wrong but my bet is on (1).

Do you ever have anything positive to contribute in this thread?

Just seems like you enjoy having a dig at him.

[Sligo Hornet]

Delighted and hope he disappears into [FONT=Helv][SIZE=2]obscurity along with the posts of his Messiah status. Maybe he's seen the light and he'll sign for an eircom EL team :p

How very apt your Handle is

[co. down green]

It sounds like McGeady is one of those players who have gotten a few seasons under their belts and now believes his own hype. I know he is only young, but this year he seems to have realised he is a "footballer" and is beyond criticism. His career can go 2 ways now.

Not sure I would agree with that.

Strachan and McGeady have simply never seen ‘eye to eye’ and there has been tension between the two since Strachan replaced Martin O’Neill in 2005. Strachan certainly seems to have a dislike for Aiden, for whatever reason?

Things seem to have come to a head this season, starting with Strachan banning McGeady from attending the video debriefing after the 4-2 defeat by Rangers and then dropping him from the starting line-up for the next couple of games, thus giving the impression that McGeady was responsible for the Rangers defeat (Which was simply not true).

I think the bust up after last weeks draw with Hearts, is the culmination of previous events and will probably lead to McGeady leaving Parkhead. (A good move for McGeady, as far as I’m concerned)

[Mcgeady46]

I have been keeping quiet on Mcgeadygate to be honest but to answer some ppl's queries about Mcgeady and Stachan, Strachan does not like him at all, there are quotes of him saying Mcgeady should be hung drawn and quartered (re his decision to play for Ireland) they hav never got on, and the death of Tommy Buurns whos served as a buffer between the two has hit Aiden hard.

I see ppl making negitive coments about Aiden Mcgeady on this tread, to you who I assume are Ireland fans I will say this, U are ungrateful swine, a player of such talent and you r intent on running him down??
He is the most exciting player since Damian duff to pull on an Irish jersey, a flair player which we are seriously short n in our team and all hegets for it is critisim from idios who don't know a talant when they see it.:mad:

[geysir]

Usually I am for the little man in these situations but Strachan has that card in a permanent vice grip grasp.

Trap has persisted with playing McGeady for the 90 minutes and is well pleased at his attitude. We all know Trap likes a smile on a player who also follows instructions.

It looks obvious that McGeady needs to move. You suspect that even if McGeady took his punishment on the chin and tried to win back his place, Strachan is not mature enough to deal with him objectively but remembers grudges with a vengeance.

[irishfan86]

It's obviously hard to be critical of a guy who's won a number of titles in a row, but I'm not sure I really respect Strachan as a manager that much. He rarely gives young players a chance, and relies on financial dominance over everybody but Rangers.

He persists with some pretty mediocre defenders, and seems to lack the man-management skills of world-class managers.

McGeady never comes across as an arrogant guy- if anything I wish he had a bit more of an attitude as I think it would really help him become an even better player.

Some players need a pat on the back from time to time, and I think McGeady is one of those guys.

There is a time for discipline, but not after a f*cking draw!

McGeady was probably the most important player in Celtic's title win last season. To treat a guy who has served you so well only a season ago with the humiliation of criticism in front of his teammates after a draw seems a bit much.

Factor in McGeady's injury situation, and Strachan's behaviour seems even more absurd.

[seanfhear]

Would Strachan manage a club to league titles anywhere but the goldfish bowl that is the spl and he has been lucky that for most of his time in scotland rangers have been low on readies and not blessed with great managers either.Walter Smith is probably better than either McLeish or Le Guen and i am pretty sure that he(Smith) has a very good record against Celtic in the old firm matches since returning.

Strachan's record as a manager in England was pretty average and though he has won league titles he has not convinced a lot of people that he is a good manager.As I have already said Rangers have not put up a great battle during Strachan's time.
What had Strachan achieved as a manager before coming to Celtic and I do not believe that he will achieve a lot after leaving Celtic and I for one would not be too upset if Sunderland or another club managed to prize him away from Celtic.

[Fergie's Son]

From what I know of McGeady he doesn't seem to have an attitude. Strachan's dislike of him is fairly well known. Trapp, who is not exactly Mr. warm and cuddly, seems to like McGeady which suggests that he doesn't have an attitude. I think it's time he left Celtic and got on with his career. I am always delighted when he pulls on the Irish jersey.

[Superhoops]

I see ppl making negitive coments about Aiden Mcgeady on this tread, to you who I assume are Ireland fans I will say this, U are ungrateful swine, a player of such talent and you r intent on running him down??
He is the most exciting player since Damian duff to pull on an Irish jersey, a flair player which we are seriously short n in our team and all hegets for it is critisim from idios who don't know a talant when they see it.:mad:

You may be right, and I hope you are.

But the question us doubters have is when is he going to show this talent and excitement in an Irish jersey??? He hasn't done so yet!!!

[endabob1]

You may be right, and I hope you are.

But the question us doubters have is when is he going to show this talent and excitement in an Irish jersey??? He hasn't done so yet!!!

Exactly right, I've yet to see him play well for Ireland, I hope he turns out better than Pele but on the evidence I've seen of him in a green shirt I fear not

[OneRedArmy]

He needs a new club quickly.

He's pretty much already in the "had potential, never really delivered" pile with all the previous hyped Irish youngsters who never made it.

A new club and regular football might be the spark he needs to save his career from mediocrity.

[geysir]

With that reckoning, that would leave Pat McCourt in the never even been mediocre yet, hardly even got close enough to have a whiff of being mediocre.

[irishultra]

well its all relative tbh.

[The Fly]

I hope Aiden gets his much speculated move in January, he has the talent to play for a big club in the bigger European leagues and deserves his shot at the big time. I admire him for having picked the country of his heritage to play for and thus having to endure the consequences - these being the vile sectarian/ethnic abuse levelled at him at most away grounds in Scotland and in his private life by all accounts. He is one of our own and an attack on him in this way, is an attack on us.

Unfortunately the same fate awaits young James MacCarthy. He has already started to receive this treatment and he too will have to show similar courage in the face of adversity. The sooner both leave Scottish football the better.

They should be embraced by us all for their decision - it shows considerable bravery for people so young. :)

[seanfhear]

I hope Aiden gets his much speculated move in January, he has the talent to play for a big club in the bigger European leagues and deserves his shot at the big time. I admire him for having picked the country of his heritage to play for and thus having to endure the consequences - these being the vile sectarian/ethnic abuse levelled at him at most away grounds in Scotland and in his private life by all accounts. He is one of our own and an attack on him in this way, is an attack on us.

Unfortunately the same fate awaits young James MacCarthy. He has already started to receive this treatment and he too will have to show similar courage in the face of adversity. The sooner both leave Scottish football the better.

They should be embraced by us all for their decision - it shows considerable bravery for people so young. :)
These young lads deserve great credit for their decision to play for Ireland and while this does not absolve them from critism from Irish football fans it should be remembered that the lads deserve some backup against the sectarian sections of Scottish " society"

It is very surprising to me how come the scottish nation does not question itself over the situation it finds itself over these players.