Aiden McGeady

[bogwarrior]

You lads have to stop living in the past. Who cares how promising McGeady was at age fourteen? This is 2008. If Alex Ferguson wanted McGeady, he'd wave his chequebook and pluck any Celtic player, including Boruc, away without any negotiations whatsoever. If you think McGeady is anywhere near good enough to play for Manchester United you need to check yourself before you wreck yourself.

While your lingo is all hip and stuff i can assure you I am very much living in the present and you have yet to put forward any valid reason as to why any of the aformentioned players merit a place in the irish team ahead of McGeady!!

Nowhere did i say that mc geady is good enough to play for man utd. Now i just checked myself and thank god i didn't wreck myself!!

[Billsthoughts]

While your lingo is all hip and stuff i can assure you I am very much living in the present and you have yet to put forward any valid reason as to why any of the aformentioned players merit a place in the irish team ahead of McGeady!!


cause he has never played well for Ireland while the other have?:confused:

[Billsthoughts]

My comments at half time in the Georgia game:
"McGeady playing like he has been for Celtic this season. Just can't seem to beat a player. I wish he'd come inside more as he's way too predictable."

And full time:
"McGeady was actually better tonight than he has been for Celtic this season but its not saying much as he's been way off form for Celtic. He had a decent 2nd half. Can't fault his "end product" though."


I think I'm usually spot on with my analysis of McGeady. ;) Just because I'm constantly posting about him doesn't mean I'm waxing lyrical about him all the time. When McGeady's going through a bad patch of form it's easy to forget how good he is.

7 out of ten ya gave him. to me that would be a more than above average performance.
He seems to be having a bad run of form stretching back 4 years for Ireland...

[micls]

When McGeady's going through a bad patch of form it's easy to forget how good he is.

In fairness thats easy for you to say as someone who watches him for celtic but this entire Irish career has been whazt youd probably consider a bad patct. What are we supposed to base this' how good he is' on in relation to the national team.

That said I though he was better against Montenegro and showed a bit of promise. Was certainly better than hunt

[Maroon 7]

2004??? - its 2008 now and he still hasnt had a decent game for Ireland. I would also pick stephen Ireland ahead of him. Purely on the basis that the end product you get with Ireland is better.

EB I think your overstating Mageadys contribution to Irelands performances against Georgia and Montenegro. you seem incapable of seein the wood from the trees when it comes to him.

Equally some people can't seem to wait to slate him as soon as he does the slightest thing wrong in a game.

McGeady is a winger. They have to try and be creative and make things happen whether that be taking on their marker or trying to get balls into the opponents box. Ergo they will lose possession more often than someone who is only expected to pass the ball 5 yards sideways or backwards. Now while McGeady could still learn to maybe hold onto the ball sometimes rather than attempting risky passes you have to give certain players the leeway to try and make things happen.

[Bohemian1890]

A read of the Celtic forum also shows a lot of them think he should be dropped.

[Billsthoughts]

Equally some people can't seem to wait to slate him as soon as he does the slightest thing wrong in a game.

McGeady is a winger. They have to try and be creative and make things happen whether that be taking on their marker or trying to get balls into the opponents box. Ergo they will lose possession more often than someone who is only expected to pass the ball 5 yards sideways or backwards. Now while McGeady could still learn to maybe hold onto the ball sometimes rather than attempting risky passes you have to give certain players the leeway to try and make things happen.

I never slated him. Just pointed out he has never played well. Do you give the same leeway to hunt?

[eirebhoy]

A read of the Celtic forum also shows a lot of them think he should be dropped.
It should be interesting. Maloney and Naka will almost certainly start tomorrow so it'll be tough for McGeady to get in.

[OwlsFan]

A read of the Celtic forum also shows a lot of them think he should be dropped.


He was but it didn't take them long to start chanting his name when Celtic failed to break down the Danes. He came on second half and put in a few decent crosses and one or two not so decent ones.

[Colbert Report]

Relegated to the bench. At this point is looks as though his career might be over. Like so many promising youngsters he just didn't pan out.

[eirebhoy]

Relegated to the bench. At this point is looks as though his career might be over. Like so many promising youngsters he just didn't pan out.
You could get a warning for trolling with a post like that. ;)

[Colbert Report]

I'm just winding you up mate. Obviously he's still a great player, he's just hit a bad loss of form. I hope he pulls out of it before the Cyprus match!

[eirebhoy]

Word is going around that McGeady and Strachan have hardly spoken since the Rangers game after Strachan shouted at him at half time and McGeady answered back angrily. It was supposed to be for backing out of a challenge in the lead up to the Rangers goal and if it was I could understand McGeady because I know that Strachan would let many a player off for something similar.

One journalist was saying that this is where Tommy Burns is missed. If you watched the McGeady documentary a couple of months ago, McGeady talks about how Strachan would be really harsh in his critisism of McGeady and Burns would act as middle man.

[Colbert Report]

I'm not looking to "troll" here and I know this will not be nice for most Celtic an SPL supporters to hear. McGeady needs to get out of the SPL and ply his trade at a much higher level. He is our one player that I think is ideally suited to play in Spain or Portugal, where defenders don't hack you down and you get a bit of time on the ball to be creative.

[tetsujin1979]

From the Daily Record (yes, I know) today: http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football-news/scottish-football/spl-football/celtic-fc/2008/09/19/exclusive-new-rift-between-celtic-boss-gordon-strachan-and-star-aiden-mcgeady-86908-20743747/

[seanfhear]

As I don't think that Strachan is a great manager a move away from celtic to a decent club with a good manager(Aston Villa, maybe or higher profile club)would be a good move for Aiden.

[Mayo_Bhoy]

As I don't think that Strachan is a great manager a move away from celtic to a decent club with a good manager(Aston Villa, maybe or higher profile club)would be a good move for Aiden.

I presume you mean a higher profile premier club???

[Reality Bites]

As I don't think that Strachan is a great manager a move away from celtic to a decent club with a good manager(Aston Villa, maybe or higher profile club)would be a good move for Aiden.

But Gerald Kean said in Celebrity Bainisteoir that he was the Best Manager in the world .. Surely this is correct.

[Drumcondra 69er]

As I don't think that Strachan is a great manager a move away from celtic to a decent club with a good manager(Aston Villa, maybe or higher profile club)would be a good move for Aiden.

This the same Strachan who won 3 titles in a row which the current Villa manager couldn't manage to do at Celtic? And who qualified for the group stages of the Champions League (twice) which the current Villa manager also never suceeded in doing?

And on a fraction of the budget playing more attractive football? Just curious like. :rolleyes:

[Brendan 82]

This the same Strachan who won 3 titles in a row which the current Villa manager couldn't manage to do at Celtic? And who qualified for the group stages of the Champions League (twice) which the current Villa manager also never suceeded in doing?

And on a fraction of the budget playing more attractive football? Just curious like. :rolleyes:

McGeady would be better off at Villa if he could get into their team, which would be no guarantee. I believe his career will continue to stall as long as he stays at Celtic. He aint that young anymore lads, just look at some of the guys who are tearing it up in the Premier League that are years younger than McGeady. He needs to get off his ass quick

[EAFC_rdfl]

This the same Strachan who won 3 titles in a row which the current Villa manager couldn't manage to do at Celtic?
Yes because the Rangers strachan has faced isn't nearly as good as the rangers team when MoN was in charge of Celtic, he did win 3 out of 5 titles while there. And the treble in his first season.
And who qualified for the group stages of the Champions League (twice) which the current Villa manager also never suceeded in doing? Fair enough, but he did take Celtic to the uefa cup final and very nearly won it. He went close to getting out of the groups too in the CL, with some bad luck against juve standing out in particular.

And on a fraction of the budget playing more attractive football? Just curious like. :rolleyes:Wages may be down a fair bit, but he has spent on some dodgy transfers - graveson, scott brown, donati ...
The current team is not playing more attractive football!! O'neills team consisted of the likes of petrov, lambert, lennon, thompson, maloney and of course larsson hartson and sutton banging in goals, with no shortage of 4, 5, or 6 goals per game, something the current team rarely do against the poorer teams in the SPL. Way more attractive. And his signings may have been expensive, but they worked - lennon? sutton? hartson? agathe (though not expensive :p)?

[Drumcondra 69er]

Yes because the Rangers strachan has faced isn't nearly as good as the rangers team when MoN was in charge of Celtic, he did win 3 out of 5 titles while there. And the treble in his first season.Fair enough, but he did take Celtic to the uefa cup final and very nearly won it. He went close to getting out of the groups too in the CL, with some bad luck against juve standing out in particular.
Wages may be down a fair bit, but he has spent on some dodgy transfers - graveson, scott brown, donati ...
The current team is not playing more attractive football!! O'neills team consisted of the likes of petrov, lambert, lennon, thompson, maloney and of course larsson hartson and sutton banging in goals, with no shortage of 4, 5, or 6 goals per game, something the current team rarely do against the poorer teams in the SPL. Way more attractive. And his signings may have been expensive, but they worked - lennon? sutton? hartson? agathe (though not expensive :p)?

Right, I was being a bit fatecious and for the record I think MON is teh better manager. But the attitude of the Celtic fans towards Strachan is frankly laughable and is based on nothing more then their dislike of hiom going back to his Aberdeen days. Would MON have achieved what he did had Jensen not brough Larsson to the club?

And Sutton, Hartson etc were VERY big money buys for the time, £6m on Sutton would be the same as spending double that now.

And how can you hold up the achievment on reaching a UEFA cup final to bolster your case on the one hand and then state that the Rangers team then was better then the current one given that the current Rangers team reached the UEFA final last season? Who's to say Strachan wouldn't have taken Celtic to the UEFA final had he been knocked out of the CL before the group stage?

And Celtic have been far more attractive to watch the last couple of seasons, O'Neill's a great manager but is far more direct and about power then Strachan.

[Brendan 82]

Yes because the Rangers strachan has faced isn't nearly as good as the rangers team when MoN was in charge of Celtic, he did win 3 out of 5 titles while there. And the treble in his first season.Fair enough, but he did take Celtic to the uefa cup final and very nearly won it. He went close to getting out of the groups too in the CL, with some bad luck against juve standing out in particular.
Wages may be down a fair bit, but he has spent on some dodgy transfers - graveson, scott brown, donati ...
The current team is not playing more attractive football!! O'neills team consisted of the likes of petrov, lambert, lennon, thompson, maloney and of course larsson hartson and sutton banging in goals, with no shortage of 4, 5, or 6 goals per game, something the current team rarely do against the poorer teams in the SPL. Way more attractive. And his signings may have been expensive, but they worked - lennon? sutton? hartson? agathe (though not expensive :p)?

You could also compare O'Neill's stellar work at Villa to Strachan's various relegations from the Premiership.

[drinkfeckarse]

And on a fraction of the budget playing more attractive football? Just curious like. :rolleyes:


Most Celtic fans over here in Scotland would dispute that point.

[Drumcondra 69er]

You could also compare O'Neill's stellar work at Villa to Strachan's various relegations from the Premiership.

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Which various relegations would this be? I recall one with Coventry after Keane and Whelan were sold at the start of the season against his wishes, how many am I missing?

Last season was the first time that MON had a team finish higher then Strachan's best season in the EPL when Southampton finished 8th in 02/03 (and also were narrowly beaten in the Cup Final). He'd managed an 8th once with Leicester before going to Celtic.

Some of the sh1t spouted by people who don't have a clue what they're on about when it comes to Strachan's managerial record is embarrassing.

[Brendan 82]

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Which various relegations would this be? I recall one with Coventry after Keane and Whelan were sold at the start of the season against his wishes, how many am I missing?

Last season was the first time that MON had a team finish higher then Strachan's best season in the EPL when Southampton finished 8th in 02/03 (and also were narrowly beaten in the Cup Final). He'd managed an 8th once with Leicester before going to Celtic.

Some of the sh1t spouted by people who don't have a clue what they're on about when it comes to Strachan's managerial record is embarrassing.

In fairness I was trying to wind you up there with that one. But that is one more relegation than O'Neill has and now he has a better finish too. These stats will continue to add up. As will Celtic's endless number of titles. They are both good managers, and it can only be a difference of opinion as to who is better. My view is that O'Neill is better by far.

Regardless, McGeady needs to get out of Celtic. You just cant prove yourself at the highest level in Scotland, and as I said above, McGeady is NOT young anymore.

[Drumcondra 69er]

In fairness I was trying to wind you up there with that one. But that is one more relegation than O'Neill has and now he has a better finish too. These stats will continue to add up. As will Celtic's endless number of titles. They are both good managers, and it can only be a difference of opinion as to who is better. My view is that O'Neill is better by far.

Regardless, McGeady needs to get out of Celtic. You just cant prove yourself at the highest level in Scotland, and as I said above, McGeady is NOT young anymore.


Fair enough, I agree MON is a better manager and said that previously.

Celtic fans bitching about Strachan after 3 titles in a row and 2 qualification from the group stage of the CL just bugs me!

[Brendan 82]

Fair enough, I agree MON is a better manager and said that previously.

Celtic fans bitching about Strachan after 3 titles in a row and 2 qualification from the group stage of the CL just bugs me!

Yeah that is a bit ridiculous alright. They need to get over themselves, like that will ever happen.

[geysir]

McGeady playing a subs role these days.
Came on for Maloney after about an hour and set up the goals with 2 crosses.
Strachan
"When Aiden McGeady came on he was fantastic and he won a tackle to drive on and cross for our second goal. That was a turning point in the match."

At least McGeady is a better player for Ireland than Maloney is for Scotland.

[seanfhear]

I am beginning to think that if Celtic got a big enough bid for Aiden in january that they would take it.

[tetsujin1979]

Sky Sports described him as the key player in yesterday's game, despite only coming on with 29 minutes to go

[NeilMcD]

I am beginning to think that if Celtic got a big enough bid for Aiden in january that they would take it.

Is that not the same for any player. If a club gets a big enough offer to sell they will sell. By definition a big enough offer to sell, means they will sell.

Like saying if A = B well then A = B.

[irishfan86]

Is that not the same for any player. If a club gets a big enough offer to sell they will sell. By definition a big enough offer to sell, means they will sell.

Like saying if A = B well then A = B.

While I get what you're saying Neil, I think Sean meant that the arrival of Maloney and the "dip in form," or "falling out of favour," of McGeady could make him quite sell-able if good money is offered.

Back on topic- just watched the game there and McGeady was instrumental in both of Celtic's second half goals.

[seanfhear]

With reguard to Aiden ,what I meant was that other clubs might get more encouragement than they had previously

[richieos]

i cant think of any premiership clubs who would be in the market for wingers at the moment to be honest, mcgeady should have left in the summer, he was ahead of gutierez(spelling?) on newcastles wish list, other than that the premier league clubs seem to be sorted for wingers at the moment

[DmanDmythDledge]

i cant think of any premiership clubs who would be in the market for wingers at the moment to be honest, mcgeady should have left in the summer, he was ahead of gutierez(spelling?) on newcastles wish list
Definitely made the right decision not going to Newcastle anyway.

[paul_oshea]

i think what sean is trying to say is, if there is a prized loaf of bread for sale at 50p in a shop and a man walks in and offers 50p to the shopkeeper for the loaf, then the man offering the 50p for the loaf will leave with the loaf in his hand. Previouslly it may have taken 52p to prize the loaf of bread from the shopkeeper, even though the price of the loaf was 50p*

*This is in a world where there are no Consumer Watchdogs, or laws against illegal advertising obviouslly - a world seanfhear lives in.

[Sligo Hornet]

i think what sean is trying to say is, if there is a prized loaf of bread for sale at 50p in a shop and a man walks in and offers 50p to the shopkeeper for the loaf, then the man offering the 50p for the loaf will leave with the loaf in his hand. Previouslly it may have taken 52p to prize the loaf of bread from the shopkeeper, even though the price of the loaf was 50p*

*This is in a world where there are no Consumer Watchdogs, or laws again illegal advertising obviouslly - a world seanfhear lives in.

Was it White or Wholemeal?

[paul_oshea]

where would you get wholemeal for 50p hornet, come on FFS, not even in seanfhears world :rolleyes:

[eirebhoy]

McGeady is expected to start tonight against Villarreal as one of 3 attackers in 4-3-3. A similar formation to the one against Feyenoord in pre-season McGeady and Samaras supporting Vennegoor). We shall see.

[Razors left peg]

McGeady is expected to start tonight against Villarreal as one of 3 attackers in 4-3-3. A similar formation to the one against Feyenoord in pre-season McGeady and Samaras supporting Vennegoor). We shall see.

I think thats the formation that would suit Celtic best in europe anyway with the players they have... the Chelsea type formation

[eirebhoy]

McGeady worked hard tonight but was just ok. He had a good period at the end of the 2nd half where he set up 2 or 3 chances from the left.

[Junior]

Was much better on the left than when he was on the right in the 1st

[richieos]

played brilliant today and scored, back to his best :)

[irishfan86]

played brilliant today and scored, back to his best :)

Don't forget his assist- a beautiful cross to Nakamura.

[EAFC_rdfl]

think he got the assist for mcdonalds goal too

[irishfan86]

think he got the assist for mcdonalds goal too

Perhaps technically, but let's face it, that was a one-man effort!

[OwlsFan]

Not one of his greatest fans but I thought he had a good game last night. Quite a few excellent runs. Admittedly he is still inclined to give the ball away too easily,and commited one stupid foul by sitting on the ball close to our box but the positives outweighed the negatives, especially in the first half.

[Hibs4Ever]

Not one of his greatest fans but I thought he had a good game last night.



Same here. I think he's improving with every game.

[Maroon 7]

Not one of his greatest fans but I thought he had a good game last night. Quite a few excellent runs. Admittedly he is still inclined to give the ball away too easily,and commited one stupid foul by sitting on the ball close to our box

In fairness the Cypriot player was virtually sitting on top of him.