Aiden McGeady

[Junior]

ABout the same length of time Stan got as international manager :p. Alas, international games come round once in a blue moon so a player has to make a quick impact (like a manager) or it's curtains. Can't afford a player to be putting in poor performances in the hope he'll get better because there just isn't time.

Thankfully Mccarthy didnt have that approach or Duff would be an international 'has been' many many moons ago.

[Billsthoughts]

Thankfully Mccarthy didnt have that approach or Duff would be an international 'has been' many many moons ago.

To the best of my recollection he did drop him for a good while and when he did bring him back it was as a striker.

[Paulie]

owlsfan, what is it he earns in scotland?!

Yeah I was wondering about that. I thought that maybe Scotland had declared independence on the sly.

[OwlsFan]

owlsfan, what is it he earns in scotland?!

I am not his accountant so I am not sure but if and hopefully when he moves to the Premiership in England, his wages will be doubled I suspect.


Gordon Banks :D
I went out there a few times, injun territory.
All I remember were the old fellas cracking jokes non stop.

"Old fellas": they were probably in their mid-forties.

My wife used to have an apartment in Inchicore. Once, purely as a Freudian slip, she said "Remember when I used to live in Insecure" :)

[eekers]

rumours today that ramos is interested in him.
Nice to see him link up with keane at club level

[eirebhoy]

Puyol:

"McGeady is a great player. I hope that we can control him, so that he does not cause us much damage."

[tetsujin1979]

From Henrik Larsson's recent diary entry: http://www.icons.com/HL/diary.html?1.03.08

Aiden McGeady is definitely a player I admire and he's been around for a while now with Celtic and the Irish national team. I expect him to really start making a big impression and these games in the Champions League are when he should be aiming to shine.

It really is up to him to show he can do it week in, week out and to be a crucial player on the big occasions. He faced Barcelona's Carlos Puyol and did very well. Puyol is a fantastic defender, so that's not too bad. He's still developing and I'm sure his time will come.

[OwlsFan]

I just didnt want to open a can of worms...people can be quite sensitive.

Never stopped you in the past :p

[Billsthoughts]

nor will it in the future....(just on this occasion I didnt want to drag it into a whose more Irish debate)

[BaZmO*]

well in fairness to the Scots....we'd be the same if someone born here declared allegiance to another country.
Really? So if one of the many Polish or Nigerian lads that have been born here in recent years decided to declare for their parents respective countries they'd get stick for it?

[Billsthoughts]

Really? So if one of the many Polish or Nigerian lads that have been born here in recent years decided to declare for their parents respective countries they'd get stick for it?

Are you quoting my response then asking the question?
:confused:

[BaZmO*]

Are you quoting my response then asking the question?
:confused:
I thought my question was quite clear.

[Billsthoughts]

and I thought my answer you quoted before posing the question was as well.

[BigmanCas]

baZmo - Bill is up to his old tricks - don't get sucked it - you might just receive a warning from Eirebhoy. Tread carefully.

[BaZmO*]

and I thought my answer you quoted before posing the question was as well.
I was just expanding on the point by asking a question. Fair enough if you don't want to or can't answer it.



baZmo - Bill is up to his old tricks - don't get sucked it - you might just receive a warning from Eirebhoy. Tread carefully.
Don't worry EB knows that I won't do anything to warrant a ban.

[Billsthoughts]

how am I up to my old tricks? he asked me do I think Irish people would be the same if a son of an immigrant born here declared for another country whilst qouting me saying " Irish people would be the same if it was someone born here that declared for another country"

[Billsthoughts]

I was just expanding on the point by asking a question. Fair enough if you don't want to or can't answer it.


Not really like with like. But I suppose ya only have to look at the booing of players who have played for Rangers or booing or Roy Keane or no doubt what will be the booing of Stephen Ireland to see the Irish crowd are just as capable of booing players over perceived slights. Are Mageadys parents both not Scottish anyways?

[BaZmO*]

But I suppose ya only have to look at the booing of players who have played for Rangers or booing or Roy Keane or no doubt what will be the booing of Stephen Ireland to see the Irish crowd are just as capable of booing players over perceived slights.
True. But I suppose that just leaves us agreeing that there are just as many idiots in Ireland as there are in Scotland! :D



Are Mageadys parents both not Scottish anyways?
They are indeed. His paternal Grandfather is Irish. But there are other well documented reasons why he chose Ireland over Scotland.

[Billsthoughts]

Also what about the abuse shouted at some of our own players at matches? e.g. Robbie Keane and John O Shea. Our fans are well capable of shouting similar things to what was in the youtube clip. I think one of the factors that grates on the Scots more than anything was he was such a hot prospect and that he plays for one of the old firm.

[BigmanCas]

Also what about the abuse shouted at some of our own players at matches? e.g. Robbie Keane and John O Shea. Our fans are well capable of shouting similar things to what was in the youtube clip. I think one of the factors that grates on the Scots more than anything was he was such a hot prospect and that he plays for one of the old firm.
He is a hot prospect Bill and not he was a hot prospect.

[Billsthoughts]

He is a hot prospect Bill and not he was a hot prospect.

when he declared for Ireland.

[eirebhoy]

Good to see McGeady smiling and having a laugh as he always seems a bit depressed. :)

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[eirebhoy]

Zambrotta and Sylvinho the 2 full backs for Barca tonight. Puyol back at centre half. Celtic are playing 4-5-1 so McGeady might play in a central role.

[irishfan86]

Good to see McGeady smiling and having a laugh as he always seems a bit depressed. :)

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All of their faces look like something out of Barney (the dinosaur).

[eirebhoy]

He's having to play very deep tonight and every time he gets the ball there's literally 3 players on him. Good experience for him anyway.

[paul_oshea]

this game is exactly what im talking about, mcgeady needs to be showing for the ball coming down to pick the ball up and relieve the defence....ive only seen nakamura do anything like that, mcgeady should be trying to get into this big time.

[paul_oshea]

ya they are too smiley alright :D

[eirebhoy]

Naka had the same problem in the first leg though. He's having to cover for the full back for most of the game.

[paul_oshea]

mcgeady tried the kevin kilbane special there and looked like a flute.

[paul_oshea]

he is coming into it more now, but constantly flagged by 2 alright, celtic need to be smarter, great cross there though. his crossing has definitely improved since the games last autumn

[paul_oshea]

in this sorta game samaras should have been playing way earlier.

[cavan_fan]

Are Barcelona as dominant as they were in Glasgow? (Am watching Milan-Arsenal) so looking for updates!

[paul_oshea]

yes they are, its mad to think that in the last 16 of the CL there would be such a mismatch in clubs. Celtic are coming back in but thats only cos barca know they have it won and taken the foot off plus they have looked like scoring everytime they have gone forward.

[cavan_fan]

yes they are, its mad to think that in the last 16 of the CL there would be such a mismatch in clubs. Celtic are coming back in but thats only cos barca know they have it won and taken the foot off plus they have looked like scoring everytime they have gone forward.

It says a lot about one of the teams, I guess future rounds will tell us whether Barcelona are a great team or Celtic are a team who have grossly overachieved

[eirebhoy]

Barca had loads of chances but it was nowhere near as one sided a game as the first leg was. Hartley and Naka misplaced about 3 passes between them out of about 60. McGeady did well enough. Brown good in patches. Off the ball Celtic were terrible as usual but on the ball they looked much, much better so I'm happy enough.

[geysir]

Barca had loads of chances but it was nowhere near as one sided a game as the first leg was. Hartley and Naka misplaced about 3 passes between them out of about 60.
Then it must have been Hartley who missed the 3, I thought Naka had a perfect score - was not dispossessed once, 100% pass success and not one tackle made.

[ramsfan]

still has lots to prove , doing well in scotland is not much he is a big fish in a small pond so to speak, i think working with trapatoni and brady will help his career no end, i feel if he came to england at mo he would end up in the liam miller class . a good prospect but still needs to be more consistent in europe and for ireland imo

[paul_oshea]

ya thats a very good assessment ramsfan.

[BigmanCas]

still has lots to prove , doing well in scotland is not much he is a big fish in a small pond so to speak, i think working with trapatoni and brady will help his career no end, i feel if he came to england at mo he would end up in the liam miller class . a good prospect but still needs to be more consistent in europe and for ireland imo

Liam Miller can't even trap a ball? - Mc Geady is in a different class. How anyone can say that it would be better for him to remain at Celtic is bonkers. Whoever says this generally harps back to Miller/Stokes. Maloney and Petrov doing good things at Villa at the moment - why can't Mc Geady. I have no doubt that he is more than capable of taking the premiership by storm. He does not have to remain in the SPL for another two/three years to do this - he could do it yesterday.

[Billsthoughts]

Liam Miller can't even trap a ball? - Mc Geady is in a different class. How anyone can say that it would be better for him to remain at Celtic is bonkers. Whoever says this generally harps back to Miller/Stokes. Maloney and Petrov doing good things at Villa at the moment - why can't Mc Geady. I have no doubt that he is more than capable of taking the premiership by storm. He does not have to remain in the SPL for another two/three years to do this - he could do it yesterday.

Think he was making the comparison in terms of moving to the premiership too early and how it had a negative affect on Millers career. Dont think he was saying the two players were similar ability.

[paul_oshea]

Aiden, I mean bigmancas, if he is that good howcome he didnt have a better game than naka?! surely it was up to him to shine yesterday, take off those glasses, or else start wearing your actual glassess and see what he does rather than sprouting. He was very average yesterday when he had the ball. Two runs and he got dispossessed for lack of pace, lucky to get a free another time. He hit one good cross in and thats about all I saw him do in the game, hartley and naka were a lot better getting on the ball and so was their distribution.

[eirebhoy]

I liked his skip past Zambrotta in the first half. Left him for dead. Pity it happened in the Celtic half though. Pretty much summed it up for him. He had to play so deep, especially in the first half. I was impressed with him though. He kept going to the end and was in the game a lot by the end of it. Coming inside and linking up. Let's just say it's been a long time since I saw an Irish player get so much attention by such high standard opposition. He was also the most fouled player on the night.

[geysir]

I thought he was the only Celtic player who was fouled, mind you a few of them were due to the ref's kindly nature.
If he is going to try a Kilbane then he needs to flick it about 15 or 20m ahead and put the head down and sprint like hell. He had no joy against Zambrotta who won that duel 10 - 1. He had more impact in the game when he avoided Zambrotta by cutting inside.

I still can't see Trap playing both McGeady and Duff in the first 2 games if they are both available. We only need one of them and that has to be Duff.

[Billsthoughts]

would having both of them not counteract teams double marking either of them? i.e. relieve some of the pressure off our creative outlets. Maybe at home when the onus is on us to attack.

[Junior]

He didnt have a great game last night, one on one with Zambrotta merely showed what we all know, he is still learning, hasnt got years and years of experience at this level and that Zambrotta is no mug.


He tracked back reasonably well, though I think he could have helped Naylor a little more and seemed a little off the pace in the first 30mins or so.

We had so little posession in the first half and like duff he isnt really a ball winner, so it made it difficult for him to make any real impact. Celtics midfiled in general were losing posession far too easily.

Came in to it more in the 2nd half, with a few bits of decent passing and a good cross.

[geysir]

would having both of them not counteract teams double marking either of them? i.e. relieve some of the pressure off our creative outlets. Maybe at home when the onus is on us to attack.

There is another thread on Trap's team

Montenegro and Georgia will be the games that define our attempts to qualify. 2 points or less and we are fécked, 3 points means we have at least won an away game but not enough, 4 points is solid enough, 6 points and we are in a Trap heaven.
Georgia ran Scotland ragged at home, our fullback situation is too average at best to support 2 wingers who cover like mobile statutes.
Depending on what those games need - Hunt or McGeady used as a sub.

[BigmanCas]

There is another thread on Trap's team

Montenegro and Georgia will be the games that define our attempts to qualify. 2 points or less and we are fécked, 3 points means we have at least won an away game but not enough, 4 points is solid enough, 6 points and we are in a Trap heaven.
Georgia ran Scotland ragged at home, our fullback situation is too average at best to support 2 wingers who cover like mobile statutes.
Depending on what those games need - Hunt or McGeady used as a sub.

Lads - Mc Geady is the most in form Irish player in Britain at the moment. He did not play bad last night and has been playing out of his skin lately - and it is amazing that he continues to excel in a team that houses players like Donati and Sno who cannot even pass the ball.

Mc Geady covers like a mobile statue now does he?

S Hunt - yeah he is good. Play your best players and less of the nonsense. Duff and Mc Geady are Irelands wingers now.. The same as Beckham and Giggs were Uniteds' wingers during the nineties. Alternatively we might play S Ireland on the right and Hunt on the left. Is that more defensive for ya. Play your best players - bottom line. Forget the nonsense.

[jmurphyc]

S Hunt - yeah he is good. Play your best players and less of the nonsense. Duff and Mc Geady are Irelands wingers now.. The same as Beckham and Giggs were Uniteds' wingers during the nineties. Alternatively we might play S Ireland on the right and Hunt on the left. Is that more defensive for ya. Play your best players - bottom line. Forget the nonsense.

Whilst I want McGeady and Duff to be the two starting wingers for the qualifiers, I can understand why people have reservations about them. I think if they're backed up by central midfielders who can do a job at defending and covering them most of the time then they should work. However, it's not as simple as just playing your best players. We want to qualify for the world cup and for that we need a cohesive team, not a bunch of talented individuals who can't complement each other's games.

Edit: I've seen very little of Lawrence this season, but if he can keep up his current form, then maybe we could play him on the right, McGeady in the centre, Duff on the left and Keane up front in a 4-2-3-1. When McGeady first started coming onto the scene I wanted him to play in the hole for us. Perhaps this could work now?

[paul_oshea]

Lads - Mc Geady is the most in form Irish player in Britain at the moment. He did not play bad last night and has been playing out of his skin lately - and it is amazing that he continues to excel in a team that houses players like Donati and Sno who cannot even pass the ball.

Mc Geady covers like a mobile statue now does he?

S Hunt - yeah he is good. Play your best players and less of the nonsense. Duff and Mc Geady are Irelands wingers now.. The same as Beckham and Giggs were Uniteds' wingers during the nineties. Alternatively we might play S Ireland on the right and Hunt on the left. Is that more defensive for ya. Play your best players - bottom line. Forget the nonsense.


Last nights game showed he didnt shine, there were 2 others who shined ahead of this so called world class player, yet no ones is labelling htem world class, what showed last night was that in a game like Georgia v Ireland, i.e. Ireland away we cant rely on mcgeady to defend ( as that will happen, just like he needed to defend or relieve the pressure against barca ) and therefore he is at best a sub, unless we are attacking and doing brilliantly - which wont happen - then he would be definitely utilised.

jimmyc, i think that mcgeady is too good a crosser for playing the hole role. Id say bigmancas would like to play in the hole role though, well at least mcgeadys.

[BigmanCas]

Last nights game showed he didnt shine, there were 2 others who shined ahead of this so called world class player, yet no ones is labelling htem world class, what showed last night was that in a game like Georgia v Ireland, i.e. Ireland away we cant rely on mcgeady to defend ( as that will happen, just like he needed to defend or relieve the pressure against barca ) and therefore he is at best a sub, unless we are attacking and doing brilliantly - which wont happen - then he would be definitely utilised.

jimmyc, i think that mcgeady is too good a crosser for playing the hole role. Id say bigmancas would like to play in the hole role though, well at least mcgeadys.
Paul I am at a loss with your last comments. Are you suggesting that Mc Geady cannot defend - surely if you had any knowledge of the beautiful game you can recognise that the main reason he has improved considerablely as a player of late is because he has become an all-round winger with a hunger to track back. You make no sense.