Aiden McGeady M Ayr Utd b.1986

[NeilMcD]

I think the truth on this issue is somewhere between Youngirish and BigmanCas. I think Stuttgart you have largely hit the nail on the head with this.

[tetsujin1979]

He would struggle to hold down a regular place for any of the top 10 teams in the Premiership.
West Ham are 10th at the moment in the Premiership, are you telling me McGeady wouldn't get in ahead of Ljungberg, Boa Morte or Solano on the wings?

[livehead1]

He would struggle to hold down a regular place for any of the top 10 teams in the Premiership.

Just how much weight should be attributed to your opinion is outlined with this beautiful one liner. What a load of Sh*t.

[Billsthoughts]

I think he might well struggle to get into a premiership top ten side as he seems too lightweight for what is essentially just a physical league. To be honest if Maradonna was in the Premiership they wouldnt have known what to do with him. Hard to judge how good he actually is while he is playing in so many one sided games at club level.

His performance against Slovakia was one of the worst I have ever seen. He looked totally dis interested. How he got picked for the Czech game is beyond me but he repaid his managers faith by putting in another shocker.

Would like to see him tried in behind the striker for Ireland.

[osarusan]

tell us one player that played consistantly well in an Irish top for the last few years. No one that's correct not one at all.

Shay Given?

[paul_oshea]

Okay youngirish here is the challenge, if McGeady is POTY by 2011 then in a sober state you run naked down O'Connell st ;)

Geysir, yer mad to get lads running naked down the street, and yer a big farneyman too, and you have a lot of spare time to post on foot.ie are you a priest by any chance?!

:D

[BigmanCas]

I think he might well struggle to get into a premiership top ten side as he seems too lightweight for what is essentially just a physical league. To be honest if Maradonna was in the Premiership they wouldnt have known what to do with him. Hard to judge how good he actually is while he is playing in so many one sided games at club level.

His performance against Slovakia was one of the worst I have ever seen. He looked totally dis interested. How he got picked for the Czech game is beyond me but he repaid his managers faith by putting in another shocker.

Would like to see him tried in behind the striker for Ireland.
He is a winger Billy - leave it.

[ifk101]

I'd be worried about Aiden's future

He's quoted as slagging off other players.


Hunt would not lace MY boots. Hunt is without doubt one of the most overrated players in the premiership and his ability will in no way help save Reading from their inevitable relegation. Never Hunt before ME, Never.

Quotes like the above aren't useful and fellow players wouldn't be happy.

And then he could be developing a drinking problem.


I met Paddy Kenny in the Porterhouse - bottom of Grafton Street one friday before Xmas and I got talking to him - around the time they played Cyprus in croker. He seemed a nice lad. On leaving I asked him 'where was Lee Carsley in Cyprus'? to which he replied with his hands up in the air 'where was I'!!!! He is a legend around Sheffield for his heroics in goal and Stan treated him very badly after Nicosia.. He is a shoe in as Given's number two and he is a bit of craic to boot. Unlucky against boro on wed.

It seems from the above he's becoming disoriented. Sad to see this with somebody so young.

And then he's always complaining .


Has these wise words come from Brian Kerr? If so, he is still a clown. He give me very little time on the pitch. Was that because he was too busy trying to make the worlds worst substitutions like taking Robbie Keane at 2-0 up and bringing on Kavanagh. Please don't quote Brian Kerr if at all possible. He was our worst EVER manager.

And obviously loves himself ....


Look at ME!!! Come on - you got to love ME.. You can only beat what is put in front of you - in this case POOR ALAN MAYBURY - an ex Irish International????

Have a wee look:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1yCKKh7TY4


Aiden, a few words of advice.

Keep your head, work hard and get to training on time - and if it doesn't work out at least you can say you gave it your best shot.

[Billsthoughts]

I'd be worried about Aiden's future.......

Excellent:D

[EAFC_rdfl]

I'd be worried about Aiden's future

He's quoted as slagging off other players.



Quotes like the above aren't useful and fellow players wouldn't be happy.

And then he could be developing a drinking problem.



It seems from the above he's becoming disoriented. Sad to see this with somebody so young.

And then he's always complaining .



And obviously loves himself ....




Aiden, a few words of advice.

Keep your head, work hard and get to training on time - and if it doesn't work out at least you can say you gave it your best shot.


Don't take it so hard Aiden.

BTW, shouldn't you be at training? Look at what happened to Liam at Sunderland. Could be you next.


I think this is getting more than a bit old. it was funny 2 weeks ago,though only just :rolleyes:

[BigmanCas]

I'd be worried about Aiden's future

He's quoted as slagging off other players.



Quotes like the above aren't useful and fellow players wouldn't be happy.

And then he could be developing a drinking problem.



It seems from the above he's becoming disoriented. Sad to see this with somebody so young.

And then he's always complaining .



And obviously loves himself ....




Aiden, a few words of advice.

Keep your head, work hard and get to training on time - and if it doesn't work out at least you can say you gave it your best shot.

Everyone of my posts above have been tampered with. I did not post them in their current form. Is this allowed??????????? EB???????????

Bill - I think we have already gone down the road of trying to fit square pegs into round holes. It has failed. We should play people in their best positions. Look what happened when we played S Kelly at left back and J O Brien in the middle of the park. Leave Mc Geady on the wing and there is one less position we have to worry about.

[youngirish]

As has been proven time and time again on here the hype about most young Irish players is generally nothing more than delusional nonsense. Darren Potter, Anthony Stokes, Paddy McCarthy, Stephen O'Halloran all spring to mind as players hyped up in the recent past as potentially top class Irish players with little or no relevant evidence to back up such rantings. I just like to add a dose of reality every now and then.

McGeady is an average player playing in a terrible league. That's all at the moment. He has never been shown to be any good consistently at a higher level than the SPL bar one or two good performances (yes only that many) in the CL in nearly 20 games. I don't care about Irish friendlies btw in which he has been decent but rarely spectacular. In competitive Ireland games (yes the ones that matter) he has been rubbish, consistently so I may add.

Do I think he can do a job for Ireland? Yes. I never said he couldn't. If its a choice between McGeady, Kilbane or S Ireland playing in one of the wide positions for Ireland I'd go with McGeady in most games (obviously Kilbane's defensive strengths can come in handy sometimes depending on the opposition). S Ireland I dislike though more because of his attitude than his talent.

However the consensus generally on here is that people think McGeady is some type of World Class talent that Ireland are lucky to have. I think that's nonsense. He deserves no such hype from the numerous times I've watched him. The same people singing that tune are often (though not always) the same ones who were singing the praises of some of the dribble mentioned earlier not too long ago. Most of the others are die hard Celtic supporters.

[BigmanCas]

Darren Potter, Anthony Stokes, Paddy McCarthy, Stephen O'Halloran in the same breath as Mc Geady? Absolute nonsense....

Don't remember any of them getting clapped on the field by A Nesta?

McGeady is an average player playing in a terrible league - He is hands down, the best player, this season in this league.

I am a Man Utd fan but above all else I am a true supporter of our International Soccer Team. Sorry about that.

He is a 21 year old. I rest my case.

[eirebhoy]

Naka:

“I knew he was a really good player when I arrived but he has improved a lot. I think he is a genius. When I first arrived at Celtic, I was very surprised that he was only 19. I didn’t think he would be that young. I certainly wasn’t that good when I was 21. I keep trying every day to be a better player but I think Aiden has the natural ablity.”

[youngirish]

Naka:

“I knew he was a really good player when I arrived but he has improved a lot. I think he is a genius. When I first arrived at Celtic, I was very surprised that he was only 19. I didn’t think he would be that young. I certainly wasn’t that good when I was 21. I keep trying every day to be a better player but I think Aiden has the natural ablity.”

Yeah didn't Henrik Larrson a few years ago claim Liam Miller was the best young player he'd ever seen?

McGeady is almost 22 BigManCas which is not particularly young for a wide player. They peak earlier than most other players.

[ifk101]

If he can produce what he's doing for Celtic on a regular basis for Ireland then I'd be happy. But as Youngirish says he has yet to prove himself as an international standard player and I think that's a fair criticism. He has the potential to be a very good player for us but that's all it is - potential. If Stephen Ireland comes back into the squad it is likely that he and McGeady will be challenging for the same position. I'd prefer McGeady to start ahead of Ireland as I think he brings a stronger attacking balance to the team if Duff is on the opposite wing. But maybe Trapattoni will see things differently.

[geysir]

Remember how all the Celtic team hyped Miller to the Gods.
McGeady's perf against Slovakia or the Czechs can't be deleted but he did fine against the same Czech full back at Celtic Pk.
The tests will come for McGeady.
Atm I can't see Trap starting with both McGeady and Duff for the first 2 away games.
We are weak at both full back positions.

[Wolfie]

As has been proven time and time again on here the hype about most young Irish players is generally nothing more than delusional nonsense. Darren Potter, Anthony Stokes, Paddy McCarthy, Stephen O'Halloran all spring to mind as players hyped up in the recent past as potentially top class Irish players with little or no relevant vidence to back up such rantings. I just like to add a dose of reality every now and then.

McGeady is an average player playing in a terrible league. That's all at the moment. He has never been shown to be any good consistently at a higher level than the SPL bar one or two good performances (yes only that many) in the CL in nearly 20 games. I don't care about Irish friendlies btw in which he has been decent but rarely spectacular. In competitive Ireland games (yes the ones that matter) he has been rubbish, consistently so I may add.

Do I think he can do a job for Ireland? Yes. I never said he couldn't. If its a choice between McGeady, Kilbane or S Ireland playing in one of the wide positions for Ireland I'd go with McGeady in most games (obviously Kilbane's defensive strengths can come in handy sometimes depending on the opposition). S Ireland I dislike though more because of his attitude than his talent.

However the consensus generally on here is that people think McGeady is some type of World Class talent that Ireland are lucky to have. I that's nonsense. He deserves no such hype from the numerous times I've watched him. The same people singing that tune are often (though not always) the same ones who were singing the praises of some of the dribble mentioned earlier not too long ago. Most of the others are die hard Celtic supporters.

A healthy dose of realism there. McGeady is, without doubt, a talented player with a lot of potential. I think he has a fair bit to go to live up to some of the purple prose that's been written here at times.

Wayne Rooney is a young player who has delivered World Class performances at both club and international level. That's the benchmark - and McGeady has yet to achieve that level, most certainly on a consistent basis.

I'm as hopeful as the next man that McGeady realises the potential he has - but he's not the finished article.

Encouraging performances in friendlies only offer a hope that they'll be reproduced when it matters.

Its fair comment to state that McGeady has yet to do anything of major relevance in a qualifier. I undertstand a big part of his role is to create for others but he has rarely offered a goal threat from the wing which a top form Duff can offer.

I'll be interested to see what plans Trapp has for him.

[eirebhoy]

Yeah didn't Henrik Larrson a few years ago claim Liam Miller was the best young player he'd ever seen?

I'm not actually replying to anything with that post. Just posting quotes about McGeady as always. :)

[paul_oshea]

As has been proven time and time again on here the hype about most young Irish players is generally nothing more than delusional nonsense. Darren Potter, Anthony Stokes, Paddy McCarthy, Stephen O'Halloran all spring to mind as players hyped up in the recent past as potentially top class Irish players with little or no relevant evidence to back up such rantings. I just like to add a dose of reality every now and then.

McGeady is an average player playing in a terrible league. That's all at the moment. He has never been shown to be any good consistently at a higher level than the SPL bar one or two good performances (yes only that many) in the CL in nearly 20 games. I don't care about Irish friendlies btw in which he has been decent but rarely spectacular. In competitive Ireland games (yes the ones that matter) he has been rubbish, consistently so I may add.

Do I think he can do a job for Ireland? Yes. I never said he couldn't. If its a choice between McGeady, Kilbane or S Ireland playing in one of the wide positions for Ireland I'd go with McGeady in most games (obviously Kilbane's defensive strengths can come in handy sometimes depending on the opposition). S Ireland I dislike though more because of his attitude than his talent.

However the consensus generally on here is that people think McGeady is some type of World Class talent that Ireland are lucky to have. I think that's nonsense. He deserves no such hype from the numerous times I've watched him. The same people singing that tune are often (though not always) the same ones who were singing the praises of some of the dribble mentioned earlier not too long ago. Most of the others are die hard Celtic supporters.


great post YI, very reasoned and fair.

[youngirish]

great post YI, very reasoned and fair.

Ta Paul but before I get carried away did you forget to add a sarcastic smiley face to the end of your post?

[paul_oshea]

No I didn't, I am singing from the same hymn sheet and having been saying the same for the last 15 or so page

[Stuttgart88]

Wayne Rooney is a young player who has delivered World Class performances at both club and international level. That's the benchmark For every Rooney there must be dozens of others who reached high status later in their careers. Rooney's a freak and is no benchmark for anyone. It's far more normal for creative players to peak later. Look at Zidane or Bergkamp. Also look at Owen, past his best when he was 24.

I'm sitting on the fence as far as McGeady is concerned. He's got extraordinary feet but looks like he needs to learn the game more. This may or may not ever come, but anyone can see he's a better player than he was a year ago and hopefully he'll keep improving.

I'm bloody glad he's available for us and not Scotland.

[Stuttgart88]

I'm fed up with this "SPL is sh1t so anyone doing well there must be crap" nonsense. The Premiership is a top league but with players of staggeringly different levels of ability. The eLOI isn't a top class league but there are players who can clearly play at a higher level just as there are those who drag the standard down. Why not just look at the player and make a judgment?

[BigmanCas]

For every Rooney there must be dozens of others who reached high status later in their careers. Rooney's a freak and is no benchmark for anyone. It's far more normal for creative players to peak later. Look at Zidane or Bergkamp. Also look at Owen, past his best when he was 24.

I'm sitting on the fence as far as McGeady is concerned. He's got extraordinary feet but looks like he needs to learn the game more. This may or may not ever come, but anyone can see he's a better player than he was a year ago and hopefully he'll keep improving.

I'm bloody glad he's available for us and not Scotland.
Good point - Look at Thierry Henry...

[NeilMcD]

Fair play Stuttts a very balanced and well put forward few points. Are you the guy that settles all debates at home. You are far too reasonable for your own good. Fair play

[Billsthoughts]

I'm fed up with this "SPL is sh1t so anyone doing well there must be crap" nonsense. The Premiership is a top league but with players of staggeringly different levels of ability. The eLOI isn't a top class league but there are players who can clearly play at a higher level just as there are those who drag the standard down. Why not just look at the player and make a judgment?
IMO Mageady benefits more than most from playing in a below standard league. the type of player he is means he can make fools of players of a certain standard. Did ya ever play football and a guy who plays at a decent standard comes down and runs rings round everyone and then ya see him at his own standard and he isnt all that and a bag a chips? I know its not the same thing but thats the only way I would describe my mageady doubts. would love to see him do well for us tho. goes without saying


Fair play Stuttts a very balanced and well put forward few points. Are you the guy that settles all debates at home. You are far too reasonable for your own good. Fair play

Feb 29th was the day women could propose to the man they loved.
....
how did you get on Neil?
:)

[eirebhoy]

In fairness Puyol didn't look very bright against him, same goes for the Brazil right back and both Benfica full backs (he played against the left back in the away game and the right back in the home game).

[Billsthoughts]

remind me who won the brazil and barcelona matches again?

[eirebhoy]

remind me who won the brazil and barcelona matches again?
Seriously? McGeady couldn't have been that good because he was on the losing side?

[Billsthoughts]

he cant have been that great either. you could easily just have said he is rubbish and use the Cyprus, Slovakia and Czech games as irrefutable proof.

Player with pace causes ageing defender problems. hardly shocking. tricky player causes disinterested brazilian C team problems(altho not that many as it turned out).

[eirebhoy]

Player with pace causes ageing defender problems. hardly shocking.
Wouldn't have thought 29 was old. I don't think you can claim to hold no bias tbh.

[Billsthoughts]

Wouldn't have thought 29 was old but if you want to play McGeady down feel free. Just don't claim to hold no bias.

Lets call him pushing 30 then?:D
I dont understand your bias comment? Please explain.

[eirebhoy]

Because everything about him has to be negative. Ignore the positives and just say that any average winger should be troubling Puyol. I'm certainly biased when it comes to McGeady. I want him to succeed more than a lot of Irish players.

[Billsthoughts]

No your a cheerleader for him. As I have said a million times before I would love for him to be good for Ireland. Hes the type of player I love to see. However he hasnt been. Can you not just accept that? There is no bias on my part. I followed him since he was just getting a game for celtic and if anything I would have been biased in favour of him doing well. But your saying he should walk into the Ireland team on the back of a freindly game against Brazil. Thats ridiculous. His good form at club level has to be tempered by the standard of league he is playing in.

[eirebhoy]

I'm saying I'd have him in the team if we had a competitive tomorrow because I believe he has gotten over his confidence problems with Ireland. That wasn't an excuse I used for McGeady. I'm absolutely convinced his problems with Ireland previously were down to confidence and pressure. He was a nervous wreck in some games and couldn't play a 5 yard pass.

[Billsthoughts]

I actually agree with you to some extent on this one. The Irish fans seem to get on the backs of players(more so flair players) very quickly. probably due to the nature of the makeup of the support. There was obvious signs of this in his play like the example you mentioned. However in the Czech and Slovak games he actually looked like a player who didnt give a damn. Nothing to do with confidance and everything to do with attitude.

[eirebhoy]

I don't know, I never watched those games back but he's really not a player that'd slack off. When he's full of confidence like the Brazil game he'll come and demand the ball, look for it. The opposite is the case when you have no confidence. Maybe that made him look lazy.

[geysir]

It's whats churning around on his insides that matter. He know he was cráp in those games and is determined to do himself and the team justice
Players who let their frustrations come out get sent off :)

[jmurphyc]

IMO it's unfair to keep judging him on the two performances in September. They were both in the space of 4 days, so it's not as if they were two mutually exclusive performances. He played well as an impact sub in the last campaign, and considering he was relatively young during that campaign, that was probably the most we could expect from him. He was also playing under an incredibly incompetent manager who probably didn't instruct him well before kick off. It's not like he was the outstanding poor player during the campaign.

As I said earlier, we can't keep holding the September games against him. IMO he's done pretty well since then and he deserves to start in the first game of the qualifiers if he carries on his form. There's no doubt that an eventual move will benefit him and we'll be able to assess him more accurately if that happens. However, he definitely needs to impress in the upcoming qualifiers. He'll be 22 by then, and it'll be time to step up and prove his consistency. Perhaps he'll never be a world beater, but he could definitely be one of our most influential players in the years to come.

[tetsujin1979]

His good form at club level has to be tempered by the standard of league he is playing in.
What about his form in the Champion's League? Should that be tempered too?

[Dodge]

He was anonymous for Celtic today. And then popped up with a great cross for Samaras to score

[Billsthoughts]

What about his form in the Champion's League? Should that be tempered too?

yeah cause celtic are lighting up that!:D

[BigmanCas]

mc geady - the difference again today against hibs. bill name one irish player that is on fire?

[Dodge]

mc geady - the difference again today against hibs
Seriously? Apart from that one cross (when it was already 1-0) what did he do?

[Billsthoughts]

The mighty Hibs...slain at last...(or for the 9th time this season that is)

[tetsujin1979]

yeah cause celtic are lighting up that!:D
McGeady has 2 assists and 1 goal this season, the only Irish goalscorer in the Champion's League, that's a similar record to Hleb at Arsenal.
Just by comparison, Anderson, Giggs, Nani, Pennant, Wright-Phillips and Rosicky have yet to score in the CL this season, and out of that group only Nani has any assists.

[geysir]

More tiresome repetitive sarcasm about McGeady, SPL.
Is that all you have to offer Bill?

[BigmanCas]

More tiresome repetitive sarcasm about McGeady, SPL.
Is that all you have to offer Bill?

Nothing but the same old story from Bill..... Mc Geady was excellent in the second half and Hibs had 2 men on him for the full 90 mins

[Billsthoughts]

More tiresome repetitive sarcasm about McGeady, SPL.
Is that all you have to offer Bill?
Ive made some valid points. You choose to ignore them as you dont want anything to disturb your little celtic dream world. Is that all you have to contribute?


McGeady has 2 assists and 1 goal this season, the only Irish goalscorer in the Champion's League, that's a similar record to Hleb at Arsenal.
Just by comparison, Anderson, Giggs, Nani, Pennant, Wright-Phillips and Rosicky have yet to score in the CL this season, and out of that group only Nani has any assists.
2 assist and one goal in 7 games. Are you telling me thats the kind of form that should have him as a definite starter for Ireland? your deluded. altho par for the course in your posts.


Nothing but the same old story from Bill..... Mc Geady was excellent in the second half and Hibs had 2 men on him for the full 90 mins

Oh so hes gone from being brilliant today against Hibs to being excellent in the second half? another poster has already said he did nothing the whole game. Mmmmmmmmmmm who to beleive.........:D