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Noelys Guitar

03/02/2008, 10:40 AM

From todays tribune. Houllier not returning calls!

Houllier claimed that he had always operated by the policy that "his word was his bond" and felt that unless he could persuade the FFF to soften its stance, he would have to turn the job down. The negotiations were then interrupted when Houllier had to go into hospital for a few days and the only assurance he could offer the delegation was that me might be able to come later in the year . . . around August . . . but that would have to be kept secret.

When the Givens-lead delegation rejected this however, they tried to get Houllier to work out an exit-deal with the FFF but once he stopped returning most of their calls late last week, it was clear to them that a second preferred candidate was out of the face.

eekers

03/02/2008, 10:41 AM

Well it seems that everyone but betfair have closed their books on this one. oh and ssn in correct rumour shock.
now i wonder does robbie keane remember any of his italian

NeilMcD

03/02/2008, 10:44 AM

Noelys Guitar

03/02/2008, 10:44 AM

Trappo will be bringing in Gentile as his assistant and not Brady. I hope this is not some type of leverage for Trap to get a better contract at Salzburg

NeilMcD

03/02/2008, 10:46 AM

Noelly are you doing a cut job on that tribune article. Are you going to slowly pick bits out of it and make many seperate points.

eekers

03/02/2008, 10:46 AM

Trappo will be bringing in Gentile as his assistant and not Brady. I hope this is not some type of leverage for Trap to get a better contract at Salzburg

he's got ronnie o'brien coming in as his translator so brady isnt needed :D

cavan_fan

03/02/2008, 10:47 AM

can befair close a book, is it not done by people willing to take odds. so as long as there is some fool out there there will always be bets on it. Am I right in this is how betfair works, that anybody can be the bookie.

They do suspend markets sometimes, I remember hearing about a Cheltenham Gold Cup betting book where the favourite died a few months before the race. Before it was announced his odds raced up on betfair and quite a few mugs took them before the market was suspended.

NeilMcD

03/02/2008, 10:52 AM

ok but that is slightly different to now as nothing is official, so Betfair are not going to intervene in the market. Howerver Paddy Power and Ladbrokes are not stupid so they close the book on Trapatoni as they dont want to get burnt.

eekers

03/02/2008, 11:53 AM

picture of the fai's ongoing efforts to court trapattoni
http://news2000.libero.it/img2/fotogallery/1063548117trapattoni_ansa.jpg

eirebhoy

03/02/2008, 12:47 PM

can befair close a book, is it not done by people willing to take odds. so as long as there is some fool out there there will always be bets on it. Am I right in this is how betfair works, that anybody can be the bookie.
It'll get to a point where there'll be no odds available to back (literally seconds after the announcement is made). They'll close the market within about 5-10 minutes of that.

eirebhoy

03/02/2008, 1:03 PM

Awww didums, Dion still wants Venables

Im sorry but does Fanning pull quotes like this out of his arse?
Another:
"There are some concerns that this could increase the player dissatisfaction, especially among those players, led publicly by Shay Given, who have asked why Venables has not already been appointed."

Wishful thinking more like.

Stuttgart88

03/02/2008, 1:05 PM

Again, what would Given say about Trapattoni?

There's a good beer ad over here for Hobgoblin, a real ale, with a goblin asking "what's the problem lager boy, afraid you might taste something?". I get the impression some of our players are afraid they may actually learn something. They want Tel for the craic, but here's news boys, you get rewards for working hard not enjoying yourselves.

I read Dion this morning and could almost taste the sour grapes.

shakermaker1982

03/02/2008, 1:09 PM

He's just gutted that El Tel won't be taking him out for dinner or an all expenses trip to his hotel in Spain.

eirebhoy

03/02/2008, 1:33 PM

Again, what would Given say about Trapattoni?
That's the thing, he didn't even comment on Venables. He just said he felt the new manager should have been appointed by now. Fanning says otherwise.

"I thought it would have been done by now," said Given. "The World Cup games were decided the other day, so I really felt the manager should have been in charge for that. That's not been the case for whatever reason, we don't know, but the sooner we get him in, the better.''

SuperDub

03/02/2008, 1:36 PM

If it is Trapattoni i hope the irish media give him a chance although i doubt it. What will Paul Hyland in the herald have to say about that considering he has benn telling us venables was a dead cert from day one.

Stuttgart88

03/02/2008, 1:48 PM

I dunno SuperDub, I reckon Trap would eat our media for breakfast. They've no experience of dealing with anyone of his status. The Italian media can be ferocious.

If Brady is involved the RTE boys will be supportive and only if Trap dropped flair for functionality without getting results would Dunph and co. turn on him.

Hyland is an irrelevance, an annoying one, though credit where it's due he responded to several emails I sent at the start of this process.

eirebhoy

03/02/2008, 2:15 PM

If Brady is involved the RTE boys will be supportive and only if Trap dropped flair for functionality without getting results would Dunph and co. turn on him.
Obviously he has a reputation for being defensive but he'll still play 3 or 4 attacking players and give them more freedom than most. For Italy he played 1 up top with Totti, Del Piero and Camoranesi supporting. Even Perrotta who played as 1 of the 2 midfield players is an attacking player, much more so than Steven Reid but similar style. With Benfica he played Nuno Gomez up front with Simao, Geovanni (the guy Ireland is keeping out of the Man City team) and another supporting.

We'll get to see our best attacking players under Trap anyway. They'll probably be starved of possession a lot of the time but at least they'll be conserving energy. :) One thing though is Keane and the other attacking players won't be required to track back. The typical Italian way is 7 outfield players are required to defend. The other 3 wait for the break.

Our players will gain valuable knowledge working under him and will actually have to think about the game rather than playing on instinct.

NeilMcD

03/02/2008, 2:25 PM

Lads just played 3 games on Pro Ev with the one up front against Brazil and Serbia and Norway. We drew first match lost to Serbia and won with a last minute goal against Norway after I brough Doyle on. So a mixed bag.

Deckydee

03/02/2008, 3:43 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=511717&in_page_id=1779&ito=newsnow

eirebhoy

03/02/2008, 3:45 PM

2 days behind in Belgium? ;)

Deckydee

03/02/2008, 3:47 PM

:o

Posting threads as I find them

NeilMcD

03/02/2008, 3:47 PM

Is that not a bit outdated Decky.

Poor Student

03/02/2008, 3:50 PM

Is that FAI annoucement still due this evening?

NeilMcD

03/02/2008, 4:03 PM

I am sure there will be a statement one way or the other but whether it reveals the new manager or is another holiding one is anyones guess. According to Chatsoccer they may not announce it tonight. It will look pretty bad if they dont announce anybody but I would rather wait for Trap then go for Venables or Allardyce.

SUB of the day

03/02/2008, 5:27 PM

T O D has just predicted a holding statement scenario at Citi West.......down to 2, trap and tel:mad:

Deckydee

03/02/2008, 7:48 PM

http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/mheyqlmhauql/

paul_oshea

03/02/2008, 7:55 PM

FFS, what are they like?!

kingdomkerry

03/02/2008, 8:34 PM

Could you imagine how ****ed off everyone will be if after over 110 days they appoint Venables. They could of elected him in December.

And if it is Trappatonni rather than Venables can we call him "Trapper" rather than the "Gaffer"

tetsujin1979

03/02/2008, 9:18 PM

Does this mean that the update to the recent update is that there is no update?

Noelys Guitar

04/02/2008, 12:21 AM

Trapp's people ****ed off
http://www.eleven-a-side.com/boysingreen/irish_soccer_detail.asp?newsid=30896
Stuttgart suggested on Saturday that Trapp's is a smokescreen created by the FAI. This story bears that out. All in all this weekend has been an absolute shambles for the FAI.

tricky_colour

04/02/2008, 12:44 AM

It's just the FAI trying to screw money out of Ireland fans via Betfair.
They must have made enough to pay off Stan by now surely?

ifk101

04/02/2008, 7:42 AM

Really strange sequence of events in that last 5/6 days that shows ONCE AGAIN the failings of the FAI.

So many questions, and no answers.

Who approached Trapattoni?
If it wasn't the panel that approached him, why not? (The Panel = FARCE, btw)
Why the leak to the press that something was going to happen Sunday night?
What happened in the background since Friday night?
Why the belief that the process will be over in 10 days?

lopez

04/02/2008, 9:25 AM

I think in years to come the word 'Machiavellian' will be replaced by 'Delaneyian'. What the f*ck is going on here? :mad:

Stuttgart88

04/02/2008, 9:39 AM

Why the belief that the process will be over in 10 days?That's when Venables gets back from holiday?

eekers

04/02/2008, 10:57 AM

trapattoni pictured yesterday http://a539.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/58/m_7cc3f13d2b25ae381e4a7d248128b722.jpg

Bondvillain

04/02/2008, 11:05 AM

I think in years to come the word 'Machiavellian' will be replaced by 'Delaneyian'. What the f*ck is going on here? :mad:

The replacement of "Python" in "Pythonesque" would be more appropriate. I would opine that the leaking of Trappatoni as a candidate has little to do with the FAI (or , indeed reality) but Delaney is simply allowing it to run as A) They are not capable of stopping it and B) It buys Don Givens more time to find a viable alternative to Venables, who is now seemingly out of favour as the preferred candidate.

Noelys Guitar

04/02/2008, 11:07 AM

trapattoni pictured yesterday http://a539.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/58/m_7cc3f13d2b25ae381e4a7d248128b722.jpg

"heera coma de 3 stoogies agin"

spaceghost

04/02/2008, 11:08 AM

WHAT A LOAD OF SH*TE.:mad:another one in the loooooong list of fai balls ups.
i see "lantern jaw" staunton made a few barbed comments to the press about trappatoni,in fairness stan you wouldn't be fit to sharpen his pencil.

youngirish

04/02/2008, 11:20 AM

Dunno if this was posted earlier but the current wikipedia entry about Trapatonni goes like this:

Trapattoni has recently been linked with the vacent Republic of Ireland managerial job. Trapattoni was due to be unveiled as the new Republic supremo following a meeting of the FAI's board of management on Sunday 3rd February but instead the meeting finished with an announcement that an appointment is imminent. The current caretaker manager, Don Given will remain in charge for the Republic's game on February 6th. [4]Trapattoni's imminent appointment has also fuelled speculation that Liam Brady who speaks Italian fluently will be named as assistant to the Italian veteran. The pair worked together for two successful seasons at Juventus between 1980 and 1982, with the Turin club winning Serie A titles on each occasion. The Dubliner would be regarded as a very welcome addition to the new team with the FAI and his knowledge of Italian would be a help given Trapattoni speaks very little English.

NeilMcD

04/02/2008, 11:21 AM

Sure anybody can put anything up on Wkipedia.

NeilMcD

04/02/2008, 11:29 AM

I am subscribed to an online dictionary were they send me a word every day. Todays word that they sent me "subterfuge"

Deckydee

05/02/2008, 7:56 AM

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/salzburg-to-keep-legal-book-closed-on-trapattoni-1281537.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/7227106.stm

Ireland4ever

05/02/2008, 8:25 AM

citizenerased

05/02/2008, 10:18 AM

lol ...great point I4E...

amaccann

05/02/2008, 11:04 AM

Does anyone find it to be quite funny that the current world champions rated this man so highly a few years ago that they gave him the top job for two campaigns....yet some of the Irish fans dont think he's good enough for us.
Yarp. It's kinda bonkers that people are picking holes in a prospective manager that is far beyond what we could have realistically expected at the start of this process. Perhaps we deserve Venables after all.