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Noelys Guitar
02/02/2008, 1:23 PM
anyone else surprised that venables is 2/1 on betfair and trapattoni is 7/2? I would have thought if it was really known that someone would be grabbing the 7/2
That is strange but the odds have been so skewed who knows.
Stuttgart88
02/02/2008, 1:32 PM
As I said, I'll only believe it's Trapattoni when I see it. Sounds like the FAI creating a diversion, making it look like they aimed high before saying Venables gets it.
jmurphyc
02/02/2008, 1:37 PM
Brady and Trapattoni could be a great combination but even though Emmet Malone's article makes it sound almost certain that it will be Trapattoni (when the Irish Times have yet to really break a story about someone getting the job when others have) I'll only believe it when the FAI announce it as there's been too much **** regarding who will get the job in the media.
Noelys Guitar
02/02/2008, 1:55 PM
As I said, I'll only believe it's Trapattoni when I see it. Sounds like the FAI creating a diversion, making it look like they aimed high before saying Venables gets it.
Emmet Malone looks like he reacted to the FAI announcement of a meeting tomorrow evening and reprinted his article in todays Irish Times as breaking news. Maybe nothing will be revealed tomorrow. I hope something happens. But I also feel this is some sort of red herring.
NeilMcD
02/02/2008, 1:57 PM
It looks too good to be true at the moment but I will be genuinely happy if Trappatoni and Brady are unveild as the managers tomorrow evening. I think all of us will not give a **** about the process up to then.
If it happens I genuinely think that Brady has played this smart and has put himself in a very good position to have a genuine impact on Irish football.
NeilMcD
02/02/2008, 1:59 PM
Emmet Malone looks like he reacted to the FAI announcement of a meeting tomorrow evening and reprinted his article in todays Irish Times as breaking news. Maybe nothing will be revealed tomorrow. I hope something happens. But I also feel this is some sort of red herring.
Malone had this article in the paper this morning, well before the statement appeared on the website. I would be very very suprised if the new manager is not announced tomorrow and it looking like Trappatoni to me with a nagging doubt that it could be Venables.
If this comes through it will be great. Trappatoni has done it all and from the earlier youtube clip he's got the passion to go with it.His German may have been terrible but he still got the messae across. Brady in tow would be great too.
Can't get too excited though, with all the false dawns in this process.
Fingers crossed
Stuttgart88
02/02/2008, 2:12 PM
If it's wrong the Times will look a bit stupid. They've been the most cautious to date on the whole saga so it seems odd they're making such a bold statement now.
carloz
02/02/2008, 2:20 PM
I can guarantee that it wont be Venables, i will stalk my reputation on it. The only three, so i have been informed, that have a hope of the job are Trappatoni, Coppell and Houllier. Houllier is as good as out for differeing reasons. IMO Coppell is very doubtful so that leaves one. Dont worry too much about Venables lads.
tetsujin1979
02/02/2008, 2:28 PM
Please God they'll make the right choice and just ignore Delaney's complaints that Trapattoni has no Premiership experience, isn't from London and didn't manage Barcelona 20 years ago
Anyone fancy going for a scoop down in City West tommorow evening??
I'd be up for it, I'm going to be passing through Saggart about 7:30 actually
NeilMcD
02/02/2008, 2:31 PM
Please God they'll make the right choice and just ignore Delaney's complaints that Trapattoni has no Premiership experience, isn't from London and didn't manage Barcelona 20 years ago
I'd be up for it, I'm going to be passing through Saggart about 7:30 actually
I am no fan of Delaney but there is nothing to suggest he wanted Venables.
carloz
02/02/2008, 2:37 PM
http://www.chatsoccer.eu/news/index.php/Republic-of-Ireland/Ireland-spring-a-Trap.html
:)
i think Trappatoni and Brady is as good a managerial partnership as we could have got. Fingers crossed theyre going to be announced.
Deckydee
02/02/2008, 3:35 PM
I am still concerned about his age
Jicked
02/02/2008, 3:56 PM
I am no fan of Delaney but there is nothing to suggest he wanted Venables.
Except picking a management selection committee containing Don Howe that is. Delaney originally wanted El Tel, make no mistake about it.
geysir
02/02/2008, 3:58 PM
It looks like the boy has cried wolf one too many time for the disbelieving punters.
Brady has a steady secure job with Arsenal so it would suit him if he can hold onto that if he is to be a part of Trapattoni's team.
Brady has a steady secure job with Arsenal so it would suit him if he can hold onto that if he is to be a part of Trapattoni's team.
wasnt a problem for Hughton from what i can remember...
Jicked
02/02/2008, 4:03 PM
Or Steve McClaren when he had an even more demanding job as manager of Middlesbrough whilst also England's assistant.
geysir
02/02/2008, 4:56 PM
Hopefully Givens walks:
"When I see that story I find it absolutely amazing. We haven't spoken to Trapattoni and I find it rather hard to believe the FAI are going behind our backs,"
From the Malone article in the IT
'Only in the past few days, however, has his (Trapattoni) interest in taking over the Irish team been confirmed to the FAI, with John Delaney apparently having been made aware of it earlier this week. The three members of the recruitment panel may have heard about it even more recently than that and it is believed that they will only get to interview him today.'
Sorta suggesting that Delaney made contact first with Trapattoni and then set it up with the interview panel.
NeilMcD
02/02/2008, 5:07 PM
I think Brady instigated this. In my view he probably acted as a go between Delaney and Trappatoni.
Block G Raptor
02/02/2008, 5:13 PM
Don't really care who did what with whom. as long as Trap is announced as new manager tomorrow I'll be exstatic
backstothewall
02/02/2008, 5:22 PM
I am still concerned about his age
Me to
The dream ticket of an elderly (if very successful previously) manager and an Irish legend with little managerial experience.
Have i heard this before somewhere??
He'll be 71 by the next world cup!!
Bonovox
02/02/2008, 5:29 PM
But Trapattoni has revealed he has never been in talks with anyone regarding the Irish job, and he was not impressed upon hearing the news.
“I admire the imagination of certain people,” Trapattoni told APA news agency
“Two weeks ago, I was being linked with Africa, last week it was England and now we are talking about Ireland. I’m curious to see where I will be next week.”
It now seems unlikely that Trap will replace former Ireland boss Steve Staunton, who was axed after failing to secure a spot at Euro 2008.
Trapattoni is still one of Italy’s most successful coaches at club level, having made his name at Juventus after winning several major honours with the Bianconeri. He also won the Scudetto with Inter in 1989 as well as winning the Bundesliga with Bayern Munich.
However, he has never proved himself on the international stage. He left the Azzurri in 2004 after failing miserably at the European Championships in Portugal.
backstothewall
02/02/2008, 5:38 PM
Could be a curve ball leaked by the FAI to distract everyone from Filipe Scolari being landed on a private jet at RAF Aldergrove and being driven in the back of a transit van to Dublin.
Jicked
02/02/2008, 6:01 PM
Me to
The dream ticket of an elderly (if very successful previously) manager and an Irish legend with little managerial experience.
Have i heard this before somewhere??
He'll be 71 by the next world cup!!
Well it's not like we're asking him to play in a support striker role aged 71. Unlike Robson, he hasn't already have health problems (afaik) and so there's no reason to think he couldn't handle the role. Obviously you're going to have his staff (Brady?) in charge of the bulk of training (as the younger Quieroz does for the Ferguson at Man Utd). Even if we get one campaign out of him, he could steady the ship which we desperately need, and who knows if the partnership is a success perhaps Brady could be then take over and keep the continuity? Any reservations over this seem appointment would be very harsh.
fergalr
02/02/2008, 6:03 PM
But Trapattoni has revealed he has never been in talks with anyone regarding the Irish job, and he was not impressed upon hearing the news.
Bonovox - that's a few days old - things have since moved on (guess you are busy working out the next tax avoidance scam).
TheBoss
02/02/2008, 6:05 PM
I think that 'Len' would be a good appointment, has all the experienced needed to fill in this job and he has much success although with the bigger teams, but he still guided them towards victory.
fergalr
02/02/2008, 6:09 PM
Could be a curve ball leaked by the FAI to distract everyone from Filipe Scolari being landed on a private jet at RAF Aldergrove and being driven in the back of a transit van to Dublin.
Don't be so silly. Scolari has a job and Aldergove is not very convenient for Citywest.
Its Jose Mourinho who will be flown into Baldonnell tomorrow morning from where JD will pick him up in a golf cart for the short hop across over the bridge to the hotel.
shakermaker1982
02/02/2008, 6:11 PM
please let it be so. He is a pensioner but by God we'll tighten up at the back and defend set pieces.
Stuttgart88
02/02/2008, 6:19 PM
A bit of reverse psychology here: Given how this story has clearly built momentum and given (a) how well it'd be received if true and (b) how much of a let down it'd be of TV got the job and consequently how much derision would be pointed the FAI's way, I suspect that if Trap isn't the man they'd have nipped it in the bud through media sources already today. Instead by calling the meeting they're fuelling this specualtion, setting themselves up to look great if true but disastrous if not.
It sure looks like Delaney made the first official contact unilaterally, probably with Brady involved, by sounding out Trapattoni perhaps.
NeilMcD
02/02/2008, 6:21 PM
Yeah good point Stuttgart. I would be very suprised if this was not true
geysir
02/02/2008, 6:40 PM
Does no one wants to credit Delaney with being able to instigate something positive on his own initiative? :D
Jicked
02/02/2008, 6:41 PM
Does no one wants to credit Delaney with being able to instigate something positive on his own initiative? :D
If Trapattoni is appointed I certainly will.
And then I'll berate the ****er for appointing a three man committee for absolutely no reason.
geysir
02/02/2008, 6:53 PM
The betting money is starting to flow on Trapattoni (now at 4/6) but not yet with a sense of purpose that it's a sure thing.
eirebhoy
02/02/2008, 7:07 PM
A bit of reverse psychology here: Given how this story has clearly built momentum and given (a) how well it'd be received if true and (b) how much of a let down it'd be of TV got the job and consequently how much derision would be pointed the FAI's way, I suspect that if Trap isn't the man they'd have nipped it in the bud through media sources already today. Instead by calling the meeting they're fuelling this specualtion, setting themselves up to look great if true but disastrous if not.
It sure looks like Delaney made the first official contact unilaterally, probably with Brady involved, by sounding out Trapattoni perhaps.
Excellent points.
Trapattoni finally gone odds on today. Venables at 4/1.
shakermaker1982
02/02/2008, 7:15 PM
just watched that youtube footage of him. John O'Shea is going to **** his pants :) and I cannot wait to see his reaction if Stephen Ireland comes out with another whopper about grannies.
eirebhoy
02/02/2008, 7:53 PM
The latest.
http://www.chatsoccer.eu/news/index.php/Republic-of-Ireland/Givens-flying-to-offer-Trapattoni-Ireland-job.html
If Trapattoni is appointed I certainly will.
And then I'll berate the ****er for appointing a three man committee for absolutely no reason.
Who gives a toss if we get the right man!?
It looks to me like they've had a few candidates on the go. Hopefuly this turns out to be true.
geysir
02/02/2008, 8:06 PM
Chatsoccer keep repeating Trapattoni's St Patricks Day birthday as if it's some kind of omen.
But Trapattoni has revealed he has never been in talks with anyone regarding the Irish job, and he was not impressed upon hearing the news.
“I admire the imagination of certain people,” Trapattoni told APA news agency
“Two weeks ago, I was being linked with Africa, last week it was England and now we are talking about Ireland. I’m curious to see where I will be next week.”
It now seems unlikely that Trap will replace former Ireland boss Steve Staunton, who was axed after failing to secure a spot at Euro 2008.
Trapattoni is still one of Italy’s most successful coaches at club level, having made his name at Juventus after winning several major honours with the Bianconeri. He also won the Scudetto with Inter in 1989 as well as winning the Bundesliga with Bayern Munich.
However, he has never proved himself on the international stage. He left the Azzurri in 2004 after failing miserably at the European Championships in Portugal.
They were robbed against Korea in 2002 World Cup.
Trappers has immense experience.We could be on the verge of going from a guy who has coached underage teams to Walsall's assistant coach to the ex manager of Juventus, Inter, Bayern Munich and Italy.
Chatsoccer keep repeating Trapattoni's St Patricks Day birthday as if it's some kind of omen.
It is. He's coming to get the snakes out of Ireland.
geysir
02/02/2008, 8:19 PM
Then I'll vote to change the name of the national day to St Trapattoni's Day
kingdomkerry
03/02/2008, 2:14 AM
this could happen. only a few more hours and we'll all know. Think aboutt it hallf time at the ierland brazil game it will all be revealed!!
Bondvillain
03/02/2008, 4:22 AM
A bit of reverse psychology here: Given how this story has clearly built momentum and given (a) how well it'd be received if true and (b) how much of a let down it'd be of TV got the job and consequently how much derision would be pointed the FAI's way, I suspect that if Trap isn't the man they'd have nipped it in the bud through media sources already today. Instead by calling the meeting they're fuelling this specualtion, setting themselves up to look great if true but disastrous if not.
It sure looks like Delaney made the first official contact unilaterally, probably with Brady involved, by sounding out Trapattoni perhaps.
I know Im out on a limb here with only hours to go beore the "big announcement" but to be honest, I dont know if it's going to be anything amazing.
Many folk are seeing 'signs', and crediting the FAI with stealth media manipulation.
Me? I dont think the morons could manage to break their own faces with a page of typed instructions and a hammer.
I hope Im wrong, and that we all have reason to be happy tomorrow evening, but I sincerely doubt it.
Deckydee
03/02/2008, 7:20 AM
http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/fai-issue-trapattoni-with-ultimatum-1280204.html
NeilMcD
03/02/2008, 8:56 AM
Dion is really crying for his Venables, sure even the players want him, ahhhh poor old Dion
SUB of the day
03/02/2008, 9:05 AM
....things are more advanced than Dion suggests?.....its gonna be a long day
carloz
03/02/2008, 9:49 AM
Awww didums, Dion still wants Venables
FAI sources were meanwhile playing down the significance of Given's remarks yesterday when he criticised the delay in naming a manager and called for the appointment of Terry Venables.
Im sorry but does Fanning pull quotes like this out of his arse?
mypost
03/02/2008, 10:10 AM
Trap's future press conference. Sounds similiar to someone before him. :)
"I'ma da bossa. I'ma da gaffa. Whata I saya gosa, da bucka stopsa witha mea."
Probably. :D
Cowboy
03/02/2008, 10:30 AM
Its going to be a pretty short meeting if its scheduled at 6.30 as everybody has to be in the tv studio by 7.30, which perhaps suggests that everything has been pre arranged and this is a rubber stamp exercise.?
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