Aiden McGeady [Archive] - Page 15

jmurphyc

30/01/2008, 3:47 PM

I wouldn't have a problem with Trapattoni. His record speaks for itself. The only problem is his age, but he still seems capable of a good job at most places he goes.

eirebhoy

30/01/2008, 5:37 PM

SSN have now destroyed their reputation with me. :D

shakermaker1982

30/01/2008, 5:43 PM

I really thought we were going to get him......I must have texted 20 people when the news was breaking yesterday evening and now I look like a right idiot. Thanks SSN! I thought we'd be able to banish El Tel from our memories. Instead the nightmare approaches ever closer.

eekers

30/01/2008, 9:09 PM

did i win the internet then?

Noelys Guitar

31/01/2008, 12:49 PM

He is back into fav at 15/8 PP.

NeilMcD

31/01/2008, 1:41 PM

The one thing we can learn here is that the bookies is no way any guide of who is going to get the job. The bookies are playing with the market and they are playing all sorts of games with this.

BradyIsMyHero

01/02/2008, 10:18 AM

Latest post on Wikipedia:

"30th January 2008, Trapattoni was heavily linked to the vacant Republic of Ireland Managerial position. This suggestion was dismissed by the FAI selection panel as attempts to manipulate betting markets which he himself has confirmed "

NeilMcD

01/02/2008, 10:46 AM

Just been told that there was something on RTE news about Trappatoni getting the job.

Lionel Ritchie

01/02/2008, 11:04 AM

Listening to RTE news all morning. Nothing of the sort said on any news. PK talked about exactly what's been mentioned here ...which is bookies stoking the market.

NeilMcD

01/02/2008, 11:06 AM

Ok no problem, some guy in work said that it was on the Pat Kenny show

paul_oshea

01/02/2008, 11:16 AM

but sure of course it is. lads ye'd swear this is a revelation. That is what bookies do the whole time, who do you realistically sets the "favourites tag"?!

geysir

01/02/2008, 11:52 AM

Noelys Guitar

01/02/2008, 12:03 PM

The RTE sports report started with scoop like sensation, 'from a reliable source - it's Trapattoni with Liam Brady' and talked about it
only after a listener emailed in 'not another scam' did the presenter concede that the scoop only has a questionable rumour value.
Dimwits

Fout times so far RTE have jumped the gun with no more info than the average punter. Paddy Power's are putting in marble counter tops in all branches with Italian leather sofas for punters to lounge in as they lose their ****** on another 'dream team' punt.

Naitch

01/02/2008, 6:30 PM

On the back of the Herald it says Trap might be announced by Delaney at the awards on Sun.

NeilMcD

02/02/2008, 8:50 AM

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/

geysir

02/02/2008, 9:17 AM

Did you post the wrong link Neil?

Another Trap close source (http://www.irishexaminer.com/irishexaminer/pages/story.aspx-qqqg=sport-qqqm=sport-qqqa=sport-qqqid=54253-qqqx=1.asp)

'but well-placed sources have confirmed he is ‘very close’ to inking a three-year deal to take the Republic of Ireland up to, and beyond, the 2010 World Cup finals in South Africa'

'I understand Trapattoni has already had “positive” conversations with at least one leading figure involved in the recruitment bid.'

eirebhoy

02/02/2008, 9:45 AM

SSN have now destroyed their reputation with me. :D
I take that back. The pressure got to me. ;)

The Sun say he'll be announced as manager next week.

Hopefully Givens walks:
"When I see that story I find it absolutely amazing. We haven't spoken to Trapattoni and I find it rather hard to believe the FAI are going behind our backs,"

gustavo

02/02/2008, 9:48 AM

Ah well if the Sun say it , its as good as done

eirebhoy

02/02/2008, 9:57 AM

Ah well if the Sun say it , its as good as done
I'm guessing they have the same source as everyone else. Most of the papers are a lot more conservative though. :)

Anyway, all SSN said was that he was in talks, that has pretty much been confirmed. When someone hears SSN get something badly wrong then let me know. As it is I trust them as much as BBC.co.uk which everyone seems to worship.

cavan_fan

02/02/2008, 10:27 AM

FAI to get Trapattoni and Brady
Emmet Malone Soccer correspondent
(Irish Times)

International soccer: The FAI is set to appoint veteran Italian coach Giovanni Trapattoni as Steve Staunton's successor. The 68-year-old is on course to reach an agreement with the association over the coming days and is likely to be in Croke Park on Wednesday night to watch the team play Brazil.

...

http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaking/2008/0202/breaking24.htm

What's interesting to me is that the Times have not yet been so positive about an appointment and this seems fairly sure.

I love the bit in bold, seems the amigos have been bypassed, well spent money there.

Finally I hope in 2 years time we're not seeing this as the dawn of an era of defensiveness and failure.

NeilMcD

02/02/2008, 10:37 AM

Yeah it seems to be pretty much fact. I reckon that there was no contact early next week between the panel and Trappatoni. I would not be suprised if this was instigated by Brady.

Brady has wanted this job for a while now but realised himself that he did not have the experience for it. However the FAI were hoping to get him on board somehow. I reckon what has happened is that Brady maybe has created this situation where he is the number 2 to Trapatoni and may be in place to take over. If this is the situation I am happy with that I must say.

Brady has a great footballing mind and will be popular with the players and has also good strategic vision of a footballing set up.

The Times and the Sun are carrying this big and pretty much as fact. Everything else has been clouded with speculation but this seems to be a bit beyond that.

I think contact was probably denied last night in order to keep people off the scent.

eirebhoy

02/02/2008, 10:38 AM

Finally I hope in 2 years time we're not seeing this as the dawn of an era of defensiveness and failure.
At least it'll be intelligent football though which is important for me. Nothing like the Lawrie Sanchez in your face style that we don't have the players for. I definitely think we've the players to suit Trapattoni's system. It's not as if we're going to be sitting back and playing on the break at home to Georgia. It'll be more away from home and if it's successful then I'm happy.

Anyway, he's over 2/1 on Betfair. If it wasn't for the fact that the market has been so crazy he'd be 1/3 after an article like that in the Irish Times.

"The FAI is set to appoint veteran Italian coach Giovanni Trapattoni as Steve Staunton's successor."

No holding back there.

osarusan

02/02/2008, 10:44 AM

Future headlines -

"Ireland set 'trapp' for Italy"
"Bulgarians avoid Irish 'trapp'"

Any more?

gustavo

02/02/2008, 10:45 AM

I'd take the defensive football gladly , if it meant an end to ineptitude

Kingdom

02/02/2008, 10:47 AM

Future headlines -

"Ireland set 'trapp' for Italy"
"Bulgarians avoid Irish 'trapp'"

Any more?

Venables shown the 'Trapp door

Bonovox

02/02/2008, 10:47 AM

At least it'll be intelligent football though which is important for me. Nothing like the Lawrie Sanchez in your face style that we don't have the players for. I definitely think we've the players to suit Trapattoni's system. It's not as if we're going to be sitting back and playing on the break at home to Georgia. It'll be more away from home and if it's successful then I'm happy.

Anyway, he's over 2/1 on Betfair. If it wasn't for the fact that the market has been so crazy he'd be 1/3 after an article like that in the Irish Times.

"The FAI is set to appoint veteran Italian coach Giovanni Trapattoni as Steve Staunton's successor."

No holding back there.

He's 2/1 on betfair because people are offering those odds. Nothing to do with the market being "crazy". If he's that much of a cert, why aren't these people "in the know" getting every last cent on him????

SUB of the day

02/02/2008, 10:48 AM

Trapattoni and Brady, what a reception they would get in Croker on Wednesday.From the cone carrier, to one of the best records in World football,if the FAI seal the deal, they deserve a lot of credit.

NeilMcD

02/02/2008, 10:50 AM

He's 2/1 on betfair because people are offering those odds. Nothing to do with the market being "crazy". If he's that much of a cert, why aren't these people "in the know" getting every last cent on him????

If there is one thing we have learnt from this process is that the market is not the place to look for when it comes to is going to be the manager. The odds have been messed about so often that it is pretty much meaningless at this point.

Noelys Guitar

02/02/2008, 10:52 AM

I would describe Trappattoni's style of play as cagey rather than defensive. We need a hard nose manager who knows what hes doing and Trapp fits the bill. Lets hope it works out and it is more Wenger than Vogts.

eirebhoy

02/02/2008, 10:56 AM

He's 2/1 on betfair because people are offering those odds. Nothing to do with the market being "crazy". If he's that much of a cert, why aren't these people "in the know" getting every last cent on him????
He's about the 10th different favourite. That's a crazy market and that's the reason his odds are so high.

Stuttgart88

02/02/2008, 10:59 AM

I'll believe it when I see it.

Anything that appears too good to be true usually is!

Philly

02/02/2008, 11:00 AM

He has an excellent record but does anybody have reservations over his "communication skills". Stan got torn to shreds by the media here and Trap seems to struggle with foreign language and has a poor media temperment. If somebody brought a muppet puppet to him at training I'm sure he'd go crazy and probably knock the "journalist" out.

Don't get me wrong, I think he has an excellent track record, but this is a bit nuts!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqp64q7kHmw

NeilMcD

02/02/2008, 11:06 AM

I would like to see Stephen Ireland dealing with that. !!!!

Stuttgart88

02/02/2008, 11:06 AM

Trapattoni would gobble our media up in an instant. They'll have met their match with this guy I reckon.

mypost

02/02/2008, 11:06 AM

Don't get me wrong, I think he has an excellent track record, but this is a bit nuts!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqp64q7kHmw

He probably laughs about that now. "You tell me" would never get that worked up about the game, that's for sure.

As for his communication issues, sure the players play as if they don't understand each other, never mind the boss.

NeilMcD

02/02/2008, 11:09 AM

I think the key to this is Brady. I think we all like Brady or like the way he talks about the game. I reckon the players will like Brady as a coach too and if Trappatoni can do the tough guy in the same way Ferguson does and does his coaching with Kidd, Mc Claren, Quieroz, I can see this really working.

If its a Trappatoni with Brady, I will be very happy

NeilMcD

02/02/2008, 11:15 AM

http://www.examiner.ie/irishexaminer/pages/story.aspx-qqqg=sport-qqqm=soccer-qqqa=sport-qqqid=54253-qqqx=1.asp

bohsRap

02/02/2008, 11:15 AM

He has an excellent record but does anybody have reservations over his "communication skills". Stan got torn to shreds by the media here and Trap seems to struggle with foreign language and has a poor media temperment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqp64q7kHmw

Not at all. Quite the opposite I think.

He shows serious passion which Ireland have lacked of late. The problem with Stan and the media was, with all due respect, he made himself out to be a complete idiot. He was devoid of proper language skills and couldn't hold a press conference. That clip above showed how strongly Trap felt about the situation and that he couldn't give a balls if he was sprouting some crap because he got the foundations of what he was trying to say across. His english might be just as bad but as long as we understand the basics and he manages the team well I couldn't care less.

Philly

02/02/2008, 11:49 AM

Well, Venables can get a reaction too guys.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=V1sPa3qKR50

NeilMcD

02/02/2008, 11:55 AM

Just imagine him and Robbie Keane in Lillies.

Block G Raptor

02/02/2008, 12:12 PM

FAI announcement due tomorrow (fingers and toes crossed it's not venenbles)

billybunter

02/02/2008, 12:12 PM

jack charlton was'nt exactly smooth talking in his media relations. he did alright for us.

eirebhoy

02/02/2008, 12:49 PM

The chairman of the Selection Panel set up to recruit the next manager of the Republic of Ireland senior international team has asked the President of the Football Association of Ireland to convene a meeting of the Board of Management. The President has called a meeting for tomorrow, Sunday, at 6.30pm in the Citywest Hotel, Saggart, Co Dublin. A statement will be issued after the meeting and posted on the FAI website.

http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2826

Philly

02/02/2008, 1:05 PM

I can see it now.

"The FAI are pleased to announce that Don Givens will take control of the team until the end of the current campaign, to allow the Selection Team more time to find a manager. Accordingly, some of our qualification matches will have their dates changed to allow caretaker Don Givens attend a Samba Soccer camp, go on a holiday he has already booked (Falcon won't let him change the date) and appear on Sport's Tonight in May.

A new manager is due to be appointed in mid 2009."

Ah no. Here's hoping the decision is the right one!

dr_peepee

02/02/2008, 1:05 PM

Anyone fancy going for a scoop down in City West tommorow evening??

eirebhoy

02/02/2008, 1:08 PM

Is that Irish Times story even in the paper or is it just breaking news on the internet?

http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaking/2008/0202/breaking24.htm

ramsfan

02/02/2008, 1:10 PM

trapattoni- thank god i know he is old but he is a legend. he will get us playing and people will want to play for him:D

cavan_fan

02/02/2008, 1:12 PM

Is that Irish Times story even in the paper or is it just breaking news on the internet?

http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaking/2008/0202/breaking24.htm

it's in the paper