UEFA Cup 1st Round Draw

[bigmac]

have to correct you on one point here, Lille are FAR better than PSG over teh last two seasons. FAR better. and thats a fact. Derry haven't a prayer against a French Ligue 1 side though. Worst draw they could have got


last 4 seasons for PSG have been 11th 3rd, 9th and 9th so last two seasons have been consistently mid table.

Pauleta was League's top scorer last year though

[ger121]

Start got Ajax. Drogheda must be gutted....

[wws]

they've a fighting chance obviously but the point is there were a couple of mug outfits still in the draw that would have yielded potential to score away goals against. Well organised French Ligue 1 teams dont fit that bill and they have decent international strikers

[Real ale Madrid]

I hope everybody writes off Derry. And that they play the first leg in the Brandywell. Mid table ligue 1 team - despite thier history gives Derry an outside chance. They should definitely be looking to get at least a draw in the first leg. Second leg will be tough - but who knows!

[BohsPartisan]

British teams in capitals; seeds in bold
Levadia Tallinn v NEWCASTLE
Molde FK v RANGERS
DERRY CITY v Paris St Germain
Sparta Prague v HEARTS
FC Salzburg v BLACKBURN
WEST HAM v Palermo


From bbc.co.uk

Think they do it to be irritating

The newsreader on five live named Derry as one of the UK's representatives. Well I suppose they are technically in the UK but they are not representing a UK league.

[Drogman.]

PSG have had a poor few seasons by their high standards.

So far this season they have played very bad, and lucky to have got a win in their last game.

They will underestimate Derry and I reckon, especially at home, Derry can cause an upset.

I hope Derry beat them as I hate those Paris c**ts so much, just like Dundalk. I'll actually be in France for the away leg, so I might throw on my Marseille jersey and see if I can get a ticket :D

[BohsFans]

Anyone hear who Start got?

AJAX!!!!!!!!!!:(

[wws]

to be fair the beeb (ceefax and online) always bold the EL teams as if they're "one of us"...to be honest I think its a bit of a compliment that they dont consider us "Johnny Foreigner".....with their fancy defending and diving

[ger121]

Well on a selfish note I hope Derry play in Dublin as I'd like to go to the match. Good to see a game against a well known European opposition.

[BohsPartisan]

Amsterdam got a lucky escape so. Could you imagine a few hundred Drogs roaming the red light district? :D

[Dodge]

Should be Mega money for Derry. Loads of French TV stations will want to show that game.

[ger121]

Amsterdam got a lucky escape so. Could you imagine a few hundred Drogs roaming the red light district? :D

Big loss of revenue for Drogs as well as all those nice ladies in the windows down the Red light District:D

[pete]

Glamour draw for Derry that will justify moving the game to Windsor. Have to think little hope of proceeding but could cause an upset at home.

Drogs would not have been drawn Ajax as Drogs would have been in a different sub draw due to the kinda seeding nature of the draws. Uefa love complicated systems that no one can make out.

Newcastle are gammy as they only win 1-0 against the Lithuanians & then get drawn the lowest ranked team in the unseeded section. :rolleyes:

[Speranza]

The match won't be played at Windsor. As Jim Roddy mentioned during last week, how would the people of the Village area feel about a tricolour flying over the ground.

[pineapple stu]

Drogs would not have been drawn Ajax as Drogs would have been in a different sub draw due to the kinda seeding nature of the draws. Uefa love complicated systems that no one can make out.
Maribor on the Derry forum noted that the system picks the 5-team seeding pots on a kind of...

Strong seed
Slight strong seed
Middling seed
Slightly weak seed
Weak seed

...basis. Start and Drogheda would more than nlikely both fall into the "Weak seed" category, so on that basis, it's quite possible they would have just taken Start's place.

I prefer to go along with chaos theory, which says that if a butterfly beating its wings can affect the weather on the other side of the world, then the difference between writing "Start Kristiansund" and "Drogheda United" on the team list would have ensured Drogheda would have gotten anyone bar Ajax. :)

[pete]

The match won't be played at Windsor. As Jim Roddy mentioned during last week, how would the people of the Village area feel about a tricolour flying over the ground.

Is the tie big enough to justify Lansdowne? I wonder what kind of crowfd would be required to justify... If you have tv interest they will be more keen if Lansdowne as facilities easier.

[BohsFans]

The match won't be played at Windsor. As Jim Roddy mentioned during last week, how would the people of the Village area feel about a tricolour flying over the ground.

So there's only the RDS or Lansdowne left in the country that's up to standard?

If you were to play in Dalyer, I assume press facilities and floodlights would have to be modified.

[pineapple stu]

Tolka would qualify, wouldn't it? A middling capacity.

[BohsFans]

Tolka would qualify, wouldn't it? A middling capacity.

Doubt it. Floodlights are ****in terrible, I noticed at the league cup game. I doubt new the bulbs were working, the pitch looked extremely dark!

Also :


I've read some of the requirments for first round matches - and there are very few grounds in Ireland that would fulfill the criteria.

From memory - I think theres a requirment for a minimum of 50 press places, with power and telephone lines (or wireless internet)

Theres also a requirement for an ISDN line for the UEFA representative etc.

It goes on and on....................

Way easier in Dalyer to make way for extra media facilities because of the way the press area is layed out.
Also our gantry can see the WHOLE pitch, unlike Tolka!

[Schumi]

Tolka would qualify, wouldn't it? A middling capacity.Shels' game against Lille was moved to Lansdowne because Tolka wasn't up to scratch. That was the same round as this.

[Lord Summerisle]

I don't think Tolka is- think that was the main reason Shels moved the Lille game to Lansdowne.

[pineapple stu]

Hmmm...I thought people were saying back then that it was a soubtful decision moving to Lansdowne and the game should have been played in Tolka with the crowd that showed up in the end. Maybe I'm wrong.

[Lord Summerisle]

AFAIK, some people st the time were arguing that the game should have been played at Tolka on the basis that demand for tickets wouldn't be the same as for LaCoruna. Apparently, this was refuted by the club, who said that Tolka didn't fulfil certain UEFA criteria.

[Dazzy]

SK wants the game at the Brandy, and according to some our floodlights meet the 1200lux criteria. Just other things such as cctv of inside and out etc is where the brandy will fail.

[lofty9]

Hopefully the game will be played at the Brandywell. Its best that Derry are drawn at home first. We can get tv money from French TV and hopefully that will satisfy the needs of the board. Stephen Kenny wants the match at the Brandywell. If we have any chance of progressing we need to take a result to Paris. I can only see this happening if Paris come and play the game in Derry. The Brandywell is the only place we can hope to get a result. Playing elsewhere is a neutral venue and if we move the tie, we can kiss any ambition LOI football has goodbye. In saying that people are stating the Brandywell isn't up to standard for 1st round games. I've yet to hear a club official utter these words. So here's to hope.

[nshoop]

I think the only other ground where the derry fans can impose themselves is dalymount.If the brandywell fails the test I would want the game in dalyer if I was a derry fan

[DmanDmythDledge]

Definitely won't be in Windsor anyway- http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/5286162.stm

It would obviously better for Derry to have the game in the Brandywell but would Athlone's stadium be ready if the Brandywell wasn't up to scratch? I think Athlone's will meet most UEFA requirements, not sure on media stuff though.

[finnpark]

SK wants the game at the Brandy, and according to some our floodlights meet the 1200lux criteria. Just other things such as cctv of inside and out etc is where the brandy will fail.

If they want it bad enough they can do it. The basics are ok surely? CCTV, wireless Interenet etc - could be set up in a few hours. They should play it in the Brandywell and charge £50 per ticket. That would be the clever thing to do. Or they can rent Landsdowne , get a crownd of 8000 or so , make a loss and get hammered. If eircom league sides are going to play the most important matches in their history away from home they dont deserve progress. Kenny wants the Brandywell because he knows its the only hope of an upset - simple as that. Get a 0-0 draw or 1-0 victory and who knows away from home.

[Real ale Madrid]

Shels moved the champions league game because they had to - they didnt have to move the lille game. If Turners Cross was ok last year i see no reason why the Brandywell would not be ok this year.

[finnpark]

It looks like Derry are going for a scalp here - they are trying to switch the away leg to be first. Great move if they can get it. They could surprise them. Then bring them back to the Brandywell. I would put money on it will be in the Brandywell because its what Kenny wants and as we all know Kenny knows best ;)

[BohsFans]

It would obviously better for Derry to have the game in the Brandywell but would Athlone's stadium be ready if the Brandywell wasn't up to scratch? I think Athlone's will meet most UEFA requirements, not sure on media stuff though.

:eek:

That's a joke? right?

[Dave drummerboy]

PSG have had a poor few seasons by their high standards.

So far this season they have played very bad, and lucky to have got a win in their last game.

They will underestimate Derry and I reckon, especially at home, Derry can cause an upset.

I hope Derry beat them as I hate those Paris c**ts so much, just like Dundalk. I'll actually be in France for the away leg, so I might throw on my Marseille jersey and see if I can get a ticket :D

ya love us really

[pineapple stu]

:eek:

That's a joke? right?
He means the new ground, I assume. Doubt it'll be ready in four weeks' time!

[DmanDmythDledge]

He means the new ground, I assume. Doubt it'll be ready in four weeks' time!
If if will be I've just after checking that it will only be phase 1 that will be ready, which is one 2,000 seater stand.

[BohsPartisan]

PSG have had a poor few seasons by their high standards.

So far this season they have played very bad, and lucky to have got a win in their last game.

They will underestimate Derry and I reckon, especially at home, Derry can cause an upset.

I hope Derry beat them as I hate those Paris c**ts so much, just like Dundalk. I'll actually be in France for the away leg, so I might throw on my Marseille jersey and see if I can get a ticket :D

Eh, thought you were going down south. Being half French you'd think you'd know how far Paris is from Perpignan! :D

[JW.]

Not a bad draw at all for Derry. Frenchmen being just that will underestimate them, and perhaps they can sneak a 1-0 at home or something like that. I'd like to see the game at Lansdowne but I understand the yearning to stage it at the Brandywell.

[wws]

URE taking that from their Heineken Cup form?

[Speranza]

At first I wanted the tie moved to Dalyer but with the draw I hope we can patch the Brandy up and give PSG a culture shock. Teams can't help but feel intimidated when they play us at the Brandywell and we PSG to feel uncomfortable to stand any chance.

[sligoman]

When's the game(s) to be played?:confused:

[Speranza]

14th and 28th. First leg at home.

[nshoop]

Jim Roddy confirms on derry website that the games will be played as drawn,home leg first

[Réiteoir]

Should be Mega money for Derry. Loads of French TV stations will want to show that game.

Hopefully it'll be on TV5 - which is available in the UK and Ireland on Sky Digital

[sligoman]

14th and 28th. First leg at home.That cancels our game so. Any idea when that'll be played? Sunday maybe?:confused:

[BohsFans]

He means the new ground, I assume. Doubt it'll be ready in four weeks' time!

No know what he meant!

I doubt their new ground would be anywhere near the required standard.

[DmanDmythDledge]

Hopefully it'll be on TV5 - which is available in the UK and Ireland on Sky Digital
No. Hopefully it will be on RTÉ so everyone can see the game.

[bennocelt]

Looking at line up three class players going forward in Dhorasoo, Rothen and Pauleta

you obviosuly didnt watch the world cup and portugal:eek:

[superfrank]

As someone with an interest in French football, I would say PSG are arguably the 2nd or 3rd best team. They had a terrible season (by their standards). They didn't really get going til November and then they came very close to CL places, iirc.

A few highly-talented players there. Dhorasoo is technically a really good player. He was at AC Milan the season before last and was part of the Lyon team under Jacques Santini and then Paul LeGuen. Rothen is probably one of the best left-sided midfielders in Ligue Une, he's veryu fast. Pauleta is Portugal's all time top-scorer and he regularly gets around 20 goals a season. If he gets a chance he's more then likely to finish it easily. They also have Bonaventure Kalou up front who is a big strong forward with plenty of skill and also pace. He's the type of player that terrorises defenders.

Also in the summer they signed Mickael Landreau from Nantes on a free. He's the French number 3 goalie, behind Barthez and Coupet. Nothing to be ashamed of, imo. They also signed Chaouki Ben Saada from Bastia. Still very young, 22 I think, but very talented and lots of potential there. He's a Tunisian international.

It will not be easy.

[pineapple stu]

I doubt their new ground would be anywhere near the required standard.
I would hope it was, to be honest. Certainly when finished, it'll have a decent number of seats and be generally modern. I odn't know the details of their plans, but I'd hope that things like floodlights, which can hold grounds back, would be up to a decent sort of spec.

[TheOwl]

I was at PSG's first game of the season (they lost 3-2 at home to Lorient). I reckon they will be too strong from Derry but they are no great shakes, just make sure you get plenty of balls into the box and you will cause their shaky defence problems. I was really impressed with the atmosphere in the ground though. Much better than the atmosphere I have experienced at La Liga or Premiership grounds.

[OneRedArmy]

It will not be easy.
Superfrank: master of understatement.