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ndrog
13/04/2008, 12:03 PM
Its certainly gone all quiet on the Drogheda Stadium Front. Sure isnt it already built pre fab style and waiting to be shipped according to Drogs fans!
Not quiet at all , were just not on here yacking about it .And theres a code of silence to make sure no corkies find out whats going on with it .We know your all mad to know :rolleyes:
WindmillWarrior
13/04/2008, 1:33 PM
Its certainly gone all quiet on the Drogheda Stadium Front. Sure isnt it already built pre fab style and waiting to be shipped according to Drogs fans!
Decision due on April 24th. I don't know what you want us to do before then.
I can do a little dance if you like?
A face
13/04/2008, 4:13 PM
I can do a little dance if you like?
What kind of dance would it be?
GavinZac
14/04/2008, 8:25 AM
Not quiet at all , were just not on here yacking about it .And theres a code of silence to make sure no corkies find out whats going on with it .We know your all mad to know :rolleyes:
Of course we are. Here we are trying to push on the league to some sort of professionalism and glamour, and here ye are on ye're what, 5th year of 3 ye were given to get out of that kip? Sure its all right, ye have 'plans'...
oriel
14/04/2008, 12:50 PM
What kind of dance would it be?
It will be the redunDANCE for a lot of drogs players if the decision doesn`t go in your favour !
passerrby
14/04/2008, 6:36 PM
It will be the redunDANCE for a lot of drogs players if the decision doesn`t go in your favour !
followed by that well known slow set good riddance
A face
14/04/2008, 6:46 PM
followed by that well known slow set good riddance
A long shuffle off the side of the dance floor never to be seen again. Murder on the dance floor !! :p
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Meath Council are to issue permission for the whole shebang 10k shops gaffs etc:, page 4 of todays star.
kdjac
Buller
26/04/2008, 3:58 PM
Meath Council are to issue permission for the whole shebang 10k shops gaffs etc:, page 4 of todays star.
kdjac
Thats fantastic news
kingdomkerry
26/04/2008, 4:27 PM
Todays Star
"Drogheda Utd FC and property developer Bill Doyle are a step closer to building a new 10,000 seater football stadium.
Meath CC has confirmed it intends to grant permission for the project which also includes a retail park and a leisure centre.
The €30m development is planned for a 360 acre site in the south of Drogheda".
kingdomkerry
26/04/2008, 4:28 PM
Enter An Bord Planaila (?)
iceman
26/04/2008, 4:46 PM
Enter An Bord Planaila (?)
Would'nt be too sure of that. Only submissions/objections to the planning application was from a rival developer who is trying to shift some retail units a couple of km away from the new stadium site. Maybe he will go to An Bord Planeala as a delaying tactic until he gets up and running but surely ABP will see it for what it is.
Sheridan
26/04/2008, 4:47 PM
Great news if true. Take that, UCD naysayers.
pineapple stu
26/04/2008, 4:52 PM
Cos you'd know all about building a ground, yeah? :rolleyes:
Sheridan
26/04/2008, 4:57 PM
Sure I'll just scoop out a crater in the middle of a field somewhere and call it one. Delighted if your petty nitpicking gets exposed for what it is in this case.
pineapple stu
26/04/2008, 5:05 PM
Indeed.
Best of luck to Drogs, as I've always said, but there's a long way to go in this yet, it would appear. It's not as simple as ringing up another team and having Seery throw away more of his money on rent.
And if pointing out that losing a million a year isn't a viable business plan or wondering how you don't check what a piece of land was zoned for before making a planning application is "petty nit picking"...
you are nit picking ! your whole attitude towards us and the stadium is very clear for all to see .You love picking holes in everything we do .Get over it mate , move on and accept that youre a ucd fan :(
pineapple stu
27/04/2008, 1:08 AM
Eh...OK.
I'm sure Shels fans and Dublin City fans still think I was nit picking when, in fact, I was completely right.
But hey, what would I know? I challenge you to show me a post where I was nit picking on this issue. :rolleyes:
skitz3
27/04/2008, 9:17 AM
I'm sure Shels fans and Dublin City fans still think I was nit picking when, in fact, I was completely right.
What exactly was it you were right about Mystic Meg? I seem to remember Higgins handing your arse to you a few times when it came to Shels related matters.
You see the thing is, although your points are always structured and well thought out the fact of the matter is because you are not privvy to the inner workings of clubs like Shels, Dublin City or in this case Drogheda your points can't be taken as accurate. There was a lot going on at Shels, at the time, that you had no clue of, alot of which, made your points moot.
Cosmo
27/04/2008, 10:50 AM
And if pointing out that losing a million a year isn't a viable business plan or wondering how you don't check what a piece of land was zoned for before making a planning application is "petty nit picking"...
According to a councillor on langerweb, nothing could be done about rezoning the land until the council plannners approved the project. Thats why its only to be applied to be rezoned at next council meeting.
Btw if/when this stadium gets built ill happily dig up all your posts on it as yove being a complete d!ck about it from day one.
Though in saying that, ill hold off on that til the builders actually move in as we ain't there yet, just anoher obstacle we've got over :o
pineapple stu
27/04/2008, 12:22 PM
What exactly was it you were right about Mystic Meg? I seem to remember Higgins handing your arse to you a few times when it came to Shels related matters.
Really? Again, feel free to back it up (ditto with Cosmo). If higgins was right so often, how come Shels imploded like he denied would happen?
pól-dcfc
27/04/2008, 2:57 PM
Brilliant news. Fair play Drogheda.
What are the financial implications for DUFC, ie isn't the sale of utd park based on the prop developers 'providing' a ground for dufc, does this mean the ground must be built, to 'turn key' standard or just a tallaght style field secured, then the rest to be passed to dufc to complete.
Also what about the moderate increase in attendance for drogs over the past 5 years, if crowds have risen from around 5 or 600 in the struggling first div days to just less than 2,000 today, where will all the missing fans come from to maintain the projected standard of this stadium.
I seriously mean this, I would hate to see the club go out of business due to over extending themselves long term. I`d say they are entering into a risky period with all of this.
Best of luck to all.
Clearly Drogs have been trying to built a core support pre movement to the new stadium so that they not working off too low a base. From observations of last few seasons success does not seem to have significantly increased crowds a bit like Shels.
It is probably the same cost to build 10k as a 5k stadium but even if crowds double to 4k going to seem very empty. I am well aware our owners planning to build 25k+ stadium so same logic applies there.
Have Drogs done a deal on sale of United park already? What are the plans to make up the shortfall in new stadium cost & current assets?
iceman
29/04/2008, 2:37 PM
United Park has been rezoned to high-density residential and the planning application is with the council. Would imagine the sale will more than cover the cost of building the new stadium.
DmanDmythDledge
29/04/2008, 10:00 PM
Clearly Drogs have been trying to built a core support pre movement to the new stadium so that they not working off too low a base. From observations of last few seasons success does not seem to have significantly increased crowds a bit like Shels.
I think it's hard to tell tbh due to the restricted capacity. Obviously will still look very empty as you said but if there had been no restriction the game against Cork at the end of last season would show the level of potential that their attendence would have, even when factoring the daytrippers into account.
ramsfan
29/04/2008, 10:02 PM
can anybody shed light on the derry development how is it costing 19 million what are they building capacity wise
Sheridan
29/04/2008, 10:08 PM
Might have more joy asking here (http://foot.ie/showthread.php?t=43132&page=63), ramsfan. :cool:
ramsfan
29/04/2008, 10:13 PM
cheers
higgins
02/05/2008, 11:16 AM
If higgins was right so often, how come Shels imploded like he denied would happen?
I never denied that would happen.
As was pointed out you didn't have a clue what was going on at Shels at the time. You stuck your nose in thinking you did but were very often wrong.
I knew Shels were in the sh!t!! We were over spending, that was clear to me ,, www.ssdg.ie was set up before we went bust don't forget. Too little too late but don't start your crap about having heads in the sand. There's many at Shels who knew what was going on but were powerless to stop it. The facts are it was well past the point of no return before you piped up.
And I can confidently say even now that you still don't know the half of what went on.
I just didn't agree with your nonsense way of looking at things. You painted Shels as the bad guys every chance you got and twisted a lot of stories around. Things I knew at the time to be untrue. You had silly notions of how things could be turned around which is part of the reason why I knew you knew nothing about Shels.
You do like to think you know it all.
It's pretty sad to watch because having debated with you on Shels related issues it was clear you run on what you hear rather than what you know. It's part of the reason why now I can't exactly take what you're saying on here seriously.
Like what happened at Shels, it's the one or two missing pieces of what's going on that you didn't know. Any time we got down to it was clear you only had 90% of the story but you thought you knew it all. The truth is you knew very little of what was going on yet that didn't stop you mouthing off with naively thought out ways to resolve the problems. Most of the time you didn't even offer a solution I remember, happier just to sit there pointing out what you thought was wrong.
You should really ask yourself if you know 100% of the facts before you jump into things.
eelmonster
02/05/2008, 2:39 PM
United Park has been rezoned to high-density residential and the planning application is with the council. Would imagine the sale will more than cover the cost of building the new stadium.
Who currently owns United Park?
GavinZac
02/05/2008, 9:07 PM
Who currently owns United Park?
property dealers who also own Drogs.
pineapple stu
03/05/2008, 2:35 AM
But Drogs have to move into a new ground in order to sell United Park.
higgins, give it over. You were buying into the wrong company, and you accuse me of not having a clue?! Knowing 100% of what's going on is not necessary. Realising you're screwed is enough.
eelmonster
03/05/2008, 12:00 PM
property dealers who also own Drogs.
Ah, cheers.
higgins
03/05/2008, 2:15 PM
higgins, give it over. You were buying into the wrong company, and you accuse me of not having a clue?! Knowing 100% of what's going on is not necessary. Realising you're screwed is enough.
You still have not figured out what's happening ???
I'd have thought at this stage you'd have filled in a few more blanks!
Not knowing 100% of the story was the key to your arguments. Even now you continue to lie on here. Had you known the one or two important aspects of what was going on you'd not have made yourself look so clueless.
Is it that important for you to give the impression that you are always right on here that you will lie ?
Just admit you didnt have a clue then and you don't now.
I knew Shels were screwed and had said as much long before you started up.
The difference between you and me is I was and still am basing my arguments on reality where as you hear 90% of a story assume the rest and post on an internet forum about how great you are without ever giving any realistic answers. It is usually the one or two things you're unaware of that change everything.
pateen
07/05/2008, 9:10 AM
I was asking before but was curious to know if there are any architecture drawings for the development?
pateen
07/05/2008, 9:11 AM
PS best fo luck Drogs with it
Buller
07/05/2008, 5:17 PM
Should this thread not be moved to the drogheda section, or confined to the "stadium updates", seeing as my thread about the builders being back on site for the first time in 7 years was moved.... A bit hypocritical I thought...
PS: Good luck to drogs I hope this stadium goes ahead - United park isnt fit for its purpose
Buller
08/05/2008, 3:17 PM
:eek: ....you actually moved it...
I just think topics like these concern all LOI fans and should thus be in the main forum rather than seperate ones. Even if you look at the different fans who post in topics like these - they are mostly from other clubs -
Ah forget it...
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