The Kevin Nolan saga

[CraftyToePoke]

will a mod please merge this,

of we go again lads.....:D :D

[cavan_fan]

By the way I propose a tenner for the first person who can come up with and original opinion on this, you dont even have to agree with it!

[The Legend]

I think he should be made captain and player/coach straight away... is that original enough for a tenner?

In real terms, i like the player, but begging for his services.... f**k that, its embarrasing!

[tricky_colour]

I think Nolan is worried he won't be able to hold down a place in our midfield,
I'll have that tenner by the way,

[Fergie's Son]

I could stomach this if Nolan were at least saying "I want to play for Ireland, help me get through the red tape". He isn't though and that makes this all the more unpalatable.

[Jerry The Saint]

Kevin Nolan should not play for the Ireland team - the Ireland team should play for Kevin Nolan!

I propose renaming the Republic of Ireland to The Kevish Republic of Nolandia. It's really only red tape that's stopped this from happening already.

[Roverstillidie]

i propose staunton **** off back to shewsbury or wherever he was reserve team defensive coach and stop making a show of himself in public.

what possible reason is there to make that statement to the press? amatuer.

[CraftyToePoke]

By the way I propose a tenner for the first person who can come up with and original opinion on this, you dont even have to agree with it!

i think we, Ireland, should offer mr Nolan whatever he desires in pursiut of his undoubted talents, he after all plays in the epl, (the best league in the world). we should offer to play our home games at the reebok or anfield or goodison, whatever he wishes, he must have.

our kit must be changed, to fit his vision, a white number, id suggest, with navy shorts, and of course a smattering of loins on the chest.

and i feel,if we all ask nicely, 4tothefloor, may be willing to bend over for the greater good, should mr. Nolan have any requirements in that area. i would personally provide the ky jelly, or indeed the good old fashioned vasoline (whatever mr Nolan prefers).

:ball:

[The Legend]

I can gurantee one thing... if he ever does play for us, he probably will score a hatful of goals!

[eirebhoy]

i propose staunton **** off back to shewsbury or wherever he was reserve team defensive coach and stop making a show of himself in public.

what possible reason is there to make that statement to the press? amatuer.
He was asked a question. Listen to it here if you wish:
http://www.fai.ie/audio/fai_august_2006_2.mp3

The "issues surrounding that one" I guess are the fact that he's actually not eligible to play for us.

[Plastic Paddy]

For some reason Liam Mackey in this morning's Examiner thinks Nolan's call-up is still a goer. :confused:

:ball: PP

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http://www.examiner.ie/irishexaminer/pages/story.aspx-qqqg=sport-qqqm=sport-qqqa=sport-qqqid=10448-qqqx=1.asp

Staunton still hopeful Nolan will play for Ireland

By Liam Mackey
REPUBLIC OF IRELAND manager Steve Staunton is hoping to cut through a mountain of red tape in a bid to lure Kevin Nolan into the fold.


Staunton and Bolton captain Nolan have discussed on several occasions the prospect of the midfielder pulling on the green of Ireland.

The 24-year-old still harbours hopes of playing for England, yet Nolan knows that is a tall order with Steven Gerrard, Frank Lampard, Owen Hargreaves and Michael Carrick ahead of him in the pecking order.

Towards the end of last season there was talk of Nolan breaking into the squad, yet despite his best season for Bolton — scoring 11 goals and taking up the skipper’s armband — he was overlooked.

Staunton is eager to recruit a player of Nolan’s calibre, yet there remain obstacles, even though he qualifies to play for the Republic via the grandparents’ ruling.

Nolan has previously played for England at under-21 level, albeit in a friendly, and featured in a competitive game for the under-18s.

There is a precedent as Everton’s Tim Cahill played for Samoa at youth level, yet now represents Australia after lodging a successful appeal with FIFA.

Staunton is not giving up just yet as he said: “There’s a lot of issues surrounding this one.

“Once we cut through the red tape then we will know where we are.”

[Bungle]

I beleive that as a result of the red tape,Nolan doesn't wan to come out and say he's going to declare for Ireland...he also probably has one eye on seeing who McClaren calls up for England.I can understand Nolan's thinking.However,if his agent has any cop on,he'll encourage him to declare for us,where he'll greatly improve an already decent international team...if he declares for England,he'll be lucky to play more than five games in the rest of his career,as England are blessed at the moment with top midfielders like Gerrard and Lampard(who admittedly was **** in the WC).

[pete]

Staunton is a joke & laughing stock already begging for Nolan to join his green parade. I presume Stan would then have to drop Dixon? :eek:

[Roverstillidie]

He was asked a question. Listen to it here if you wish:
http://www.fai.ie/audio/fai_august_2006_2.mp3

The "issues surrounding that one" I guess are the fact that he's actually not eligible to play for us.

the answer is 'no comment' in that case.

stan should have invited him to portugal - if he didnt show, end of.

nolans agent couldnt have written the script better

[tricky_colour]

Well Steve McClaren named John Terry as England captain today, I assume he will announce his first squad tomorrow. That will probably bring an end to the saga one hopes?

[RogerMilla]

off to holland with him , his great-grandfather, i ask ya

[4tothefloor]

and i feel,if we all ask nicely, 4tothefloor, may be willing to bend over for the greater good, should mr. Nolan have any requirements in that area. i would personally provide the ky jelly, or indeed the good old fashioned vasoline (whatever mr Nolan prefers).
I can take banter CraftyToePoke, but that's crossing the line mate. Idiot :rolleyes:

[eirebhoy]

CraftyToePoke, keep personal insults out of threads an 4tothefloor you know the rules too. If you feel someone crossed the line it doesn't give you the right to reply with an insult. Anymore of this will result in a weeks ban.

I'm going to lock this thread until anything significant happens with this Nolan saga because the thread is going nowhere atm.

[tricky_colour]

No room in the 'new look' England squad for Nolan, even with Beckham
dropped he can't get a look in.
Seems like a clear signal he doesn't figure in McClarens plans.

[eirebhoy]

People seem adamant to talk about Nolan. Keep the thread on topic. :)

[RogerMilla]

didnt make the dutch squad either...

[Dodge]

didnt make the dutch squad either...

LMAO :D

[slow2anger]

Time to close this thread for good?:)

From today's Irish Independent:

Nolan's final avenue to Ireland squad closed off
Sunday August 13th 2006

DION FANNING

IRELAND'S manager Steve Staunton has abandoned any plans to call Kevin Nolan into the Irish squad. Reports last week suggested that Ireland were prepared to appeal to FIFA, arguing that Nolan's appearance in a competitive underage match for England should not disbar him at senior level for Ireland. Australia's Tim Cahill was successful with a similar appeal after he played for Western Samoa as a 14-year-old.

But the FAI have investigated the matter privately and are now persuaded that any case would fail, ruling Nolan out of Staunton's future plans.

[...]


Great news. End of this story hopefully!

[cavan_fan]

not sure it is great news but it does at least stop the debate.

What will we talk about now! We could always start the Joey Barton for Ireland thread.

[tricky_colour]

The timing is rather significant though isn't it, just as England appear to have
closed the door on Nolan, Ireland do the same, I wonder if a final approach was made and he provaracated so they though s*d it, or if it's a sort of slap in the face for Nolan, whose international hopes wouuld now appear to lie with the Dutch.

[Bungle]

Well Barton is an Irish name and he's from Liverpool so he must be eligible!:)

[4tothefloor]

Well Barton is an Irish name
Is it? I've never met a Barton in my life......Where do they all reside, Leitrim?

[sligoman]

Where do they all reside, Leitrim?Hey, what's wrong with Leitrim?:mad: :D.

[Paddy Garcia]

You can't help wonder why the FAI did not come to this understanding earlier & let Staunton know before he opened his mouth. Also prevent all the needless debate - which can't be good for them.

So, what have they just realised that they could not have considered before now ?

[tetsujin1979]

Joey Barton has england U-21 caps

Can we lock this, and all Kevin Nolan threads? Now that the judgement has been handed down from FIFA, it's not going to happen

[CraftyToePoke]

Can we lock this, and all Kevin Nolan threads? Now that the judgement has been handed down from FIFA, it's not going to happen


id like to think this is the end of it as well, was sort of hoping McLaren would give him one cap and dump him a la Zat Knight, but this is next best thing. Still, id like to hear Stan, or indeed Nolan say publicly that its a non-starter before resting easy completely,

then maybe this previously unlockable monster:) of a thread can be consigned to memory.

[tricky_colour]

Joey Barton has england U-21 caps

Can we lock this, and all Kevin Nolan threads? Now that the judgement has been handed down from FIFA, it's not going to happen


Why lock it? If you don't want to contribute to the thread then you don't
have to, you don't even have to read it if you don't want to.
Why would you want to stop people posting? If you want to do that why not lock the whole site?

[tetsujin1979]

Because every time a thread about Kevin Nolan's eligibility opens up, it disintegrates into arguments about the merits of players born in ireland versus so called mercenaries born outside Ireland, whether or not having nolan, or any player born outside the republic devalues the side and by extension the Eircom League, and whether or not the FAI and Staunton/Kerr are idiots for even approaching these players in the first place. Now that FIFA have stated that he is not eligible, any and all threads about him playing for us are pointless. He can't, and that's the end of it.

[tricky_colour]

Because every time a thread about Kevin Nolan's eligibility opens up, it disintegrates into arguments about the merits of players born in ireland versus so called mercenaries born outside Ireland, whether or not having nolan, or any player born outside the republic devalues the side and by extension the Eircom League, and whether or not the FAI and Staunton/Kerr are idiots for even approaching these players in the first place. Now that FIFA have stated that he is not eligible, any and all threads about him playing for us are pointless. He can't, and that's the end of it.


Well you could say that 99% of the threads degenerate into arguments. Look at all the arguements about squad and team selection, that thread needs to be shut down immediately. Infact I think I will make a post in that thread to get it closed down. While I am at it I will do the same in any other thread where there is a difference of opinion. We can't have the site degerating into a series of arguements can we.

You will see my post in that thread and it has just as much validity for closing down the thread as your does here, ie none. If everyone took your attitude it would be impossible to discuss any matter here so you might as well close the entire site down.

The jist of my post will be Staunton picks the squad, end of story, any discussion is pointless so let's have the thread padlocked. There is no justification for closing any thread, if people make abusive posts then take action against the abusive posters, not censor the thread. Threads close themselves naturally when nobody has anything further to add on the topic, there is no need for anyone to predict that situation, unless you have a crystal ball that is.

All you are doing is trying to censor topics you don't want to be talked about, well if you don't want to talk about them then you don't have to, there is no reason why you should prevent other people from talking about matter which they want to discuss.

[tetsujin1979]

There's nothing left to discuss about Nolan, he's not eligible, he can't play for us, he won't ever play for us, why bother discussing it?

Well you could say that 99% of the threads degenerate into arguments
At least those arguments stay on topic, squad and team selection and so on.

[eirebhoy]

testujin is right. If someone opened a Kevin Nolan thread in this forum I'd close it as it has absolutely nothing to do with Irish football anymore. He's not eligible, he won't play for us end of story. I'd leave this open and let the thread flow into obscurity but by the looks of it people still have things to say that have nothing to do with the topic.

Thank you Kevin for such wonderful debates, lets hope this is the last. :)