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  • thegit
    Youth Team
    • Sep 2004
    • 148

    #1

    Charlton interested in Dicker: The Sun

    I think it's could by Myler, i also heard Paul Byrne is about a month away from full fitness if all goes to plan for him. There was some english club's in for Dicker as well I heard, UCD will find it hard to hold onto him and Quigley this year.
  • Schumi
    Capped Player
    • Jun 2001
    • 10741

    #2
    I wasn't at the match so can't make any comments on the performance but I think it's a little premature to be worrying about the team after one friendly. Monaghan had played a few friendlies already so were always going to be more match fit and sharp.
    Originally posted by thegit
    I think it's could by Myler
    Hmm. He hasn't been great for Longford since he went there. He did well in Drogheda though so hopefully he could recreate that form again. We are a bit desperate too I suppose.
    There was some english clubs in for Dicker as well I heard, UCD will find it hard to hold onto him and Quigley this year.
    I presume there'd be decent money due in compensation though.
    We're not arrogant, we're just better.

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    • Student Mullet
      First Team
      • Jan 2005
      • 1141

      #3
      Originally posted by thegit
      I think it's could by Myler
      Brilliant. He's still the coolest player to have played in Belfield.

      Originally posted by thegit
      There was some english club's in for Dicker as well I heard, UCD will find it hard to hold onto him and Quigley this year.
      They're on 2 year contracts aren't they? And still under 23 so we should get a good few bob if either go.

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      • thegit
        Youth Team
        • Sep 2004
        • 148

        #4
        I know but who do you replace them with ?
        Thats the thing with UCD they get good young players because they play
        them, whens the last time they had a big signing ? It's a shame really because with the likes of Quigley, Hurley, Dicker, Kenna and Byrne as well as some of the more experienced players they have, and 2 or 3 more good signings they could really have a team thats challenging.

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        • pineapple stu
          Biased against YOUR club
          • Aug 2002
          • 40781

          #5
          Originally posted by Student Mullet
          They're on 2 year contracts aren't they? And still under 23 so we should get a good few bob if either go.
          Yeah, they're entering the second year of a two-year contract. We seem to have changed to two-year contracts lately, which is good. I've heard Tranmere were sniffing around for one.

          I wouldn't be too downhearted about players leaving for English clubs - there's not much we can do, and it's great publicity for what a spell at UCD can do for your career. I suppose as long as we can keep finding players like Quigley, Dicker, Hurley, Finn, etc. - and we've been getting them with much more regularity than ever before of late, I think - we'll continue to punch above our weight. Then there's the U-21s - champions twice in a row - and players like Jimmy Lee Matthews signing from England...

          Still, badly need a forward. Wouldn't want to be relying too much on Paul Byrne for next season purely on the basis of nine games!

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          • thegit
            Youth Team
            • Sep 2004
            • 148

            #6
            In today's Sun there's a piece about Charlton looking at Gary Dicker. Pete Mahon say's he going no where until the end of the season in the interview which is great for UCD but Would it not be better to sell him before his contract runs out?

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            • Schumi
              Capped Player
              • Jun 2001
              • 10741

              #7
              Originally posted by pineapple stu
              We seem to have changed to two-year contracts lately
              Can I take credit for this after my fanzine article a couple of years ago?

              In today's Sun there's a piece about Charlton looking at Gary Dicker. Pete Mahon say's he going no where until the end of the season in the interview which is great for UCD but Would it not be better to sell him before his contract runs out?
              Charlton, wow!

              I don't know if we'd lose out on much money by holding on to him until the end of his contract as we'll still be due compensation because he'll still be under 23.
              We're not arrogant, we're just better.

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              • thegit
                Youth Team
                • Sep 2004
                • 148

                #8
                yeah but surely theres a difference between someone buying out a contract and just getting compensation. It's a nice position for UCD to be in if they can afford to wait.

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                • Poor Student
                  Coach
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 8048

                  #9
                  I think it's better for both the club and Gary that he stays until the end of the season. His development will fare better playing first team games here than English reserve football. He's even managed to tie down a place in the national setup playing for UCD. Let us just hope that he gets some competitive U-21 caps so we have a good arguing point in any tribunal. Cherry Orchard will also be due some of the fee.

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                  • thegit
                    Youth Team
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 148

                    #10
                    I doubt any club in England would take a player from the eircom league to sit on the bench especially after what Kevin Doyle has achieved, I do agree though he is better playing in the eircom league than reserve in England.

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                    • Schumi
                      Capped Player
                      • Jun 2001
                      • 10741

                      #11
                      Originally posted by thegit
                      yeah but surely theres a difference between someone buying out a contract and just getting compensation.
                      I don't know too much about the ins and outs of it but I'd imagine buying out the contract is just a matter of them making an offer. If it's substantially above what we'd get in compensation, it might be too good to turn down. Otherwise having a premiership standard player in the team for a year would probably be worth more than the difference. Don't forget the pretty small fees that Kevin Doyle and Wes Hoolahan went to Britain for, we're not going to be offered 500k or anything close.
                      We're not arrogant, we're just better.

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                      • thegit
                        Youth Team
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 148

                        #12
                        I think it will be a long time before any Eircom team get 500k for a player, and I doubt the offer will be to good to turn down. The clubs should be looking at what they can get at the back end of the deal. Like selling on and full international call ups and such!

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                        • Schumi
                          Capped Player
                          • Jun 2001
                          • 10741

                          #13
                          Originally posted by thegit
                          I think it will be a long time before any Eircom team get 500k for a player, and I doubt the offer will be to good to turn down.
                          Exactly so we may as well hold onto him for another year as the amount of money due won't be much less.

                          The clubs should be looking at what they can get at the back end of the deal. Like selling on and full international call ups and such!
                          That's a good point. Is it possible to add these on to a compensation package?

                          Am I right in thinking that we'd be due some portion of any future sales in the same way as schoolboy clubs are?
                          We're not arrogant, we're just better.

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                          • Poor Student
                            Coach
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 8048

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Schumi
                            Exactly so we may as well hold onto him for another year as the amount of money due won't be much less.


                            That's a good point. Is it possible to add these on to a compensation package?

                            Am I right in thinking that we'd be due some portion of any future sales in the same way as schoolboy clubs are?
                            To the best of my knowledge anyone who is deemed to have had a hand in developing the player and invested some time and money into him is due a portion of any future sale. I think Crumlin Utd. get a piece of every Robbie Keane sale. Maybe someone can put up the official guidlines on this?

                            Git, are you a fan of the college?

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                            • thegit
                              Youth Team
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 148

                              #15
                              I'm not to sure, I think maybe you might get something on the first sale after that it would end I think ?

                              No poor student I'm a St Pat's fan, I have to say though I do like UCD and it would be a shame to see them break up if this new league thing happens.
                              Without UCD players like Dicker Quigley Byrne and such would be warming the bench for the likes of Shels.

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