Ireland's next Manager

[JimmyR]

Irelands next manager needs to have the following criteria ;


1. Resident in England
2. A proven track record in dealing with Premiership/first division players.
3. Not likely to pine for day to day training involvement
4. A proven track record in getting results from limited resources
5. Hard necked
6. Sense of humour

Has anyone got Joe Kinnears number. Vote number1

By the way, regarding the excuse that Brian Kerr didn't have the players, has nobody noticed that apart from Niall Quinn & the one footed Steve Staunton he had the exact same squad as Mick McCarthy. The set up was arse shaped. Give Brian back to the youths where he is bast employed.

[TheJamaicanP.M.]

Joe Kinnear? Are you having a laugh. He was a disaster at Nottingham Forest and is out of touch with the modern game. Besides he is a w@nker. If you knew anything about Irish football you would know that Kinnear couldn't give a fcuk about us. The job was his for the taking in 1996 but he wanted to remain at Wimbledon. In November 1999, Ireland were playing a rescheduled game against Yugoslavia in Belgrade. It was the only competitive international being played that Wednesday. Mick McCarthy was entitled to have his players 5 days before the game. However, Kinnear led a protest on behalf of a handful of English managers who refused to release the players. He insisted that Kenny Cunningham and Mark Kennedy play for the club on the Saturday prior to the game. UEFA gave in to the wishes of Kinnear. Ireland lost 1 nil to Yugoslavia the following Wednesday. Interestingly, Alex Ferguson (who I'm not a fan of) left Roy Keane on the bench for 75 minutes of Man United's Premiership game the same Saturday. Ferguson said he was respecting the interests of Mick McCarthy.

I'd prefer to see anybody get the job than Joe Kinnear.

[mypost]

Irelands next manager needs to have the following criteria ;

1. Resident in England
2. A proven track record in dealing with Premiership/first division players.
3. Not likely to pine for day to day training involvement
4. A proven track record in getting results from limited resources
5. Hard necked
6. Sense of humour

Sam Allardice anyone?? :confused:

[gustavo]

so non english residents need not apply?
jesus

[thejollyrodger]

i think this is complete nonsense. There is nothing wrong with having an irish manager from ireland. its just that the media and public have to have a realistic idea of what we can achieve. Were not going to qualify for each major championships

[livehead1]

Sam Allardice anyone?? :confused:

not a prayer..u can but only dream. david moyes if they dont pick up soon,losing 2-0 again to spurs 2day but i dunno if he would want it. i reckon a more realistic target would be someone along the lines of ronnie moore :o

[gustavo]

are you serious ? who the hell is ronnie moore anyway

[FarBeag]

Ronnie Moore.Did you make this guy up? If its Bobby Moore you mean he is not with us anymore RIP.

[BillyG]

did he manage rotherham or something and now manager of oldham ????. Wow now we really are scraping the barrell. My preference would be leave Kerr alone in job but thats unlikely :( if it has to be some has been or wannabee from the epl why niot Stuart Pearce...at least no one can say he wouldnt instill passion....would hate peno shoot outs though :)

[Irish_Praha]

Souness will be leaving Newcastle soon. He would do well for us, look at the success he had with Rangers and he would get Duff to play like his old self again. He'd give Douglas from Leeds a chance too.

[brine3]

I'm waiting for the punch line.

[rodoman]

Bobby Robson seems to be the choice after Fergie/Keano duo, and that's never going to happen.
He may be an ex-England manager, but he has a fair record, respect, and huge knowledge of the game.
WHat ye think !!!!

[Irish_Praha]

I'm waiting for the punch line.

Ok then.

Macateer, O'Brien, Alan Kelly, Mahon and Carsley will all be in his starting 11 :D

[Irish_Praha]

Anyone else I missed?:confused:

[ccfcgirl]

I hope Kerr gets to stay on and give it one more try (if not I wouldnt mind Stephan Kenny being manager ,I think he would do a great job)

[Green Tribe]

Souness will be leaving Newcastle soon. He would do well for us, look at the success he had with Rangers and he would get Duff to play like his old self again. He'd give Douglas from Leeds a chance too.

:eek: Souness is a complete knob! Euh! No!

[Irish_Praha]

:eek: Souness is a complete knob! Euh! No!

I know, I know! I was only joking :p

[Aaron GUFC]

I was thinking maybe Pat Dolan, Packie Bonner, John Aldridge. nt necessarily my choice but i just think they might be in the running

[gustavo]

ahh yes packie bonner that famed tactical genius

[eirebhoy]

What about a complete foreigner like Deschamps?

[gustavo]

how about waiting untill brians future is decided before speculating ?

[deadman]

his departure is inevitable...

i hear from whispers across the water that Daglish would take it if offered ...

[Superhoops]

his departure is inevitable...

i hear from whispers across the water that Daglish would take it if offered ...
Whispers from the News of the World!

[keenanboy]

I have a feeling that Martin O'Neill will be/has been approached. He's not in a position to commit to a premiership team due to personal circumstances but this role might interest him. If he doesn't go for it Kerr should probably get another contract. The players must shoulder a lot of the blame, but as Ali G once said "you can't polish a turd"

[gustavo]

how is it inevitable ?

[Closed Account 2]

Bobby Robson has hedged his bets...

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=345993&cc=5739

Sir Bobby Robson appears to have ruled himself out of becoming the next manager of the Republic of Ireland as speculation continues to mount over the future of current boss Brian Kerr.

The Irish failed to qualify for next summer's World cup finals in Germany and Robson is being tipped as a possible successor if Kerr is axed this week.

But speaking on BBC Radio Five Live's Sportsweek programme, the former England manager said: 'I have no reaction to the stories. It is pure speculation. As far as I am concerned the FAI have a very good manager in Brian Kerr at the moment and I wish him well.'

However, former Leeds legend Johnny Giles, the first man to be appointed player manager of Ireland in 1976, believes Kerr's contract will not be renewed.

'In the end we finished in fourth position,' said Giles. 'We didn't beat any of the top teams in the group and drew against Switzerland and Israel twice, you don't qualify from your group unless you make a break somewhere along the way. We didn't do that.

'We finished the tournament badly. We played badly against Cyprus and I thought very poorly against Switzerland.

'If and when the job becomes available they will have at least 200 applicants so they have got to sort something from that.

'A few months ago Brian Kerr's people approached the FAI for an extension to his contract but the FAI made it clear they wouldn't speak about it until after the World Cup campaign which didn't look good from Brian's point of view and we didn't qualify. So it hasn't made the conditions any better for him. The general consensus is they will not renew Brian Kerr's contract.'

How old would he be by the time of our next match ?? 78 ?

[Fergie's Son]

Daglish might be an interesting choice. It all seems like a Hobson's choice to me after O'Neill.

[drinkfeckarse]

Reports in some of the tabloids here claim that Fergie has been approached by the F.A.I. to take on the managers job with Roy Keane as his assistant. It actually quotes Denis Irwin saying "he has it from very reliable sources".

What do you think IF it was right? Think I like the sounds of it myself....

[thejollyrodger]

sounds like TABLOID LIES once again

[drinkfeckarse]

I take everything in the tabloids with a pinch of salt but on this occasion they have quoted Denis Irwin which is unusual. Nothing back home about it I take it?

[Roo69]

Irwin links Ferguson to Irish job (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/internationals/4348740.stm)

[eirebhoy]

Its definitely not tabloid lies. Delaney wants Fergie. He has no chance of getting him though.

[thejollyrodger]

He may well have been approached but he doesnt have the job. The FAI wouldny be able to pay his wages and why bow out of club football ?


"My very reliable sources say there has been contact between the FAI and my old boss," Irwin told the Daily Star
And who is that I wonder ? Roy Keane :D

[Peadar]

I'd find it hard to support Ireland is that whiskey nosed aggressor was at the helm. We need a professional coach, not an ageing bully.

[colster]

I'd find it hard to support Ireland is that whiskey nosed aggressor was at the helm. We need a professional coach, not an ageing bully.

What!! Ferguson would be a great appointment. He's a great manager.

[Peadar]

He's a great manager.

He was a successful manager, with huge financial backing, in a poor league. We're seeing now, when the chips are down, that he's an average manager.

[wws]

I think thats unfair everything goes in cycles - the balance of power in England went (roughly speaking) => Liverpool - Manchester United - Arsenal - and now Chelsea. These teams singularly defined and marked their era. Football being football Liverpool managed to win the CL outside their 'era' of domestic dominance as such but roughly speaking Uniteds time is gone - hastened by the off pitch re structuring. The tide is with chelsea now and theres realistically damn all Fergie can do about it.

[colster]

He was a successful manager, with huge financial backing, in a poor league. We're seeing now, when the chips are down, that he's an average manager.

What are you on about?
He didn't have that much money at Aberdeen yet he broke the old firm dominance which no one has done since. He also won a European trophy with them.
His most successful team was built around players brought through the youth system he started. He had the balls to replace older established players with these young players.
The money that he spent on players over the last while was actually generated during his time as manager.
Anyway, money isn't a guarantee of success just ask Kevin Keegan, Gerard Houllier, Claudio Ranieri etc.

[colster]

I think thats unfair everything goes in cycles - the balance of power in England went (roughly speaking) => Liverpool - Manchester United - Arsenal - and now Chelsea. These teams singularly defined and marked their era. Football being football Liverpool managed to win the CL outside their 'era' of domestic dominance as such but roughly speaking Uniteds time is gone - hastened by the off pitch re structuring. The tide is with chelsea now and theres realistically damn all Fergie can do about it.

If anything Chelsea is a fluke. If Abramovich hadn't turned up it would still be United and Arsenal vying for the Premiership.

[wws]

how a team or club comes to dominate the resources and therefore the league is irrelevant - the sheer scale of Abramovich's wealth makes comparisons with the previously dominant clubs a bit of a joke - but cast your mind back a few years and Manchester United were breaking the than transfer records to land the defining players of their generation eg Keane - they had no single abromovich figure to lambast but they still ****ed off all the other clubs because of their resources and profits

I see no difference between them and Chelsea - only the scale has changed - but money always goes that way...

[magic moments]

I'd find it hard to support Ireland is that whiskey nosed aggressor was at the helm. We need a professional coach, not an ageing bully.


agreed:D

[colster]

how a team or club comes to dominate the resources and therefore the league is irrelevant - the sheer scale of Abramovich's wealth makes comparisons with the previously dominant clubs a bit of a joke - but cast your mind back a few years and Manchester United were breaking the than transfer records to land the defining players of their generation eg Keane - they had no single abromovich figure to lambast but they still ****ed off all the other clubs because of their resources and profits

I see no difference between them and Chelsea - only the scale has changed - but money always goes that way...

I think you're wrong there. United, Arsenal + Liverpool were successful on the pitch before they dominated the resources. The money they spent was actually generated by the success of the teams on the pitch. You cannot say that about Chelsea. Chelsea would have been another Leeds if Abramovich had not bought them.

[colster]

agreed:D

So you let petty biases preclude Ireland getting the best man for the job!!

[sligoman]

I'd find it hard to support Ireland is that whiskey nosed aggressor was at the helm. We need a professional coach, not an ageing bully.Have to agree with Peader:eek::D. If Fergie gets the job then I'm supporting England from now on;):mad:

BTW, I'm a Man U fan so I'm not jealous of his success with United. I just hate the man and think he's past it!

[thejollyrodger]

Even if Fergie did get the job, he might not qualify for any of the major championships

[colster]

Have to agree with Peader:eek::D. If Fergie gets the job then I'm supporting England from now on;):mad:

BTW, I'm a Man U fan so I'm not jealous of his success with United. I just hate the man and think he's past it!

I thought this was supposed to be an objective discussion of who is best for the job and not who's the nicest person.

[colster]

Even if Fergie did get the job, he might not qualify for any of the major championships

You can say that about any one who gets the job. The fact is that with Ferguson and his track record there is a greater probability + confidence of qualifying.

[Dawn_Run]

Fergie appears to have ruled himself out, saying that he will end his carreer at Old Trafford.

Still though, he's gone in to 5/1 from 30/1 on Paddy Power.

[OwlsFan]

I'd find it hard to support Ireland if that whiskey nosed aggressor was at the helm. We need a professional coach, not an ageing bully.

Ahh, don't be so hard on Roy Keane :D ?

[BaZmO*]

Fergie appears to have ruled himself out, saying that he will end his carreer at Old Trafford.

So what do you think would happen if Fergie went on record saying that he wanted the job? I don't think his current employers would look on it too favourably.

B.