Ireland's next Manager

[Soper]

Dermot Keely is my own choice.

Or maybe Mike Bassett.Maybe even Steve Claridge.

[sligoman]

Dermot Keely is my own choice.:eek:,Glad your not in the F.A.I.;)

[livehead1]

i wasnt too upset about the speculation that kerr would be sacked but now he has, i am devasated. i'm getting sick and fed up of irish managers coming into this job and starting from scratch again. we should have just stuck with him, there are no viable alternatives out there for the money we are offering and its a complete joke. i reallt cannot explain how upset i am about this decision, it will cost irish soccer dearly for the next 3 years

[eirebhoy]

Philippe Troussier was 25/1 but now has no odds. He'll go down to about 5/1 now.

[Stuttgart88]

Would Troussier be any good? A bit of a loose cannon by all accounts but Japan played really good football under him.

Who managed japan in 1998? Their results were poor but their style of play was very pleasing on the eye.

I reckon they'll bide their time and see who's available in due course. If they have their wits about them they'll appoint a bulge bracket headhunting firm who can execute a fully professional recruitment mandate away from the attention of the press.

Salary shouldn't be an obstacle. The package should be a base salary plus performance related bonuses. Bonus to be based on points achieved against teams from Pots 1 to 3, and outright qualification. If these guys want to be well paid let them earn it.

[shakermaker1982]

I'm worried.......... MON is the man but he won't come on board a sinking ship when the Man Utd post is on the horizon.

[Hither green]

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Of this list, the only ones I wouldn't get angry about are O'Neill, Burley and Cruyff.

Peter Reud FFS?!?!?

Can't see Burley taking it. Cruyff would be a disaster, I can see the O'Cruyff headlines now as we go the way of McBertie's Scotland.

[Tired&Emotional]

Listening to Brady & Giles on dunphy's show this morning. Anyone hear it?

It was the usual names being thrown about, Allardyce, Troussier etc. but they also discussed the possibility of Roy taking the job. Dunphy said he'd be mad to but Brady & Giles said he could do well......you can't substitute UEFA badges for experience and Keano has plenty of that, he's learnt his football from two greats of the English game (Clough & Ferguson). He knows the game and what's is needed on the pitch, sure he does have the manager's job when he on the pitch.

I know he has no Management experience but he would't be the first to get an Intl. job eg Hughes for Wales and Beckenbauer for Germany.

What do you think?

[OwlsFan]

And who would look after the friendlies which he doesn't do ? A different management team for them? I'd prefer someone committed to the concept of international football rather than someone who often put his club first even ahead of a play off game in Iran.

Martin O'Neill or failing that John Aldridge. Can't see much beyond those two.

[Stuttgart88]

I'm not sure he'd do it straight away. He could be the manager after the next one.

I have mixed views on him in general but I was perfectly happy to put aside my personal opinion of him when he played for us so I'd have no problem with him managing us either. It'd be a gamble but I think he could do it. He and Dinny Irwin!

Under no circumstances should people like Dalglish be let anywhere near this job (though I did notice Rafael Scheidt kept a clean sheet at OT last night )

[Tired&Emotional]

And who would look after the friendlies which he doesn't do ? A different management team for them? I'd prefer someone committed to the concept of international football rather than someone who often put his club first even ahead of a play off game in Iran.

Martin O'Neill or failing that John Aldridge. Can't see much beyond those two.


I presume you're being sarcastic there OwlsFan?! I think if Roy commits to something he won't hold back....just ask Alfe Haaland:D

[shakermaker1982]

Philippe Troussier is my dark horse for the job. He impressed 'apparently' last time around but I think we need someone with a bit more passion and fire than a tactical bod.

MON would be my ideal choice but it's gonna depend on his family (don't know how far his wife's recovery has progressed). Kenny is a NO, I'd rather have Kerr back or Mick.

[JoeSemi]

I saw Otto Rehaggel listed at 25/1 this morning. Not somebody that had immediately sprung to anybodys mind but he must be getting touted in some circles to be suddenly mentioned. Worth a flutter and wouldn't be a bad candidate. Has proven credentials and is current European champion with a bunch of previously unheralded footballers. Having gone out of the WC he may have reached his peak with Greece and could now look for greener pastures. Although, coming from the Med to scouring the Championship on a p!ssy evening in february may not appeal!

[shakermaker1982]

haven't thought about him, if he can turn Greece into European champions then anything is possible.

[eirebhoy]

Is O'Neill really suited to international football? Read this article:

http://sport.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=645932005

The first thing he did when he got to Celtic was change his title from "coach" to "manager". He doesn't seem to talk to his players. He doesn't do training. He doesn't give a team-talk before matches. He is not renowned for playing good football and is not the type of manager that would give a midfielder a free role.

He has a magnificant record but I probably wouldn't want him as Ireland boss.

[mypost]

I saw Otto Rehaggel listed at 25/1 this morning. Not somebody that had immediately sprung to anybodys mind but he must be getting touted in some circles to be suddenly mentioned. Worth a flutter and wouldn't be a bad candidate. Has proven credentials and is current European champion with a bunch of previously unheralded footballers. Having gone out of the WC he may have reached his peak with Greece and could now look for greener pastures.

No chance whatsoever, as Rehhagel doesn't speak English.

[Metrostars]

Listening to Brady & Giles on dunphy's show this morning. Anyone hear it?

It was the usual names being thrown about, Allardyce, Troussier etc. but they also discussed the possibility of Roy taking the job. Dunphy said he'd be mad to but Brady & Giles said he could do well......you can't substitute UEFA badges for experience and Keano has plenty of that, he's learnt his football from two greats of the English game (Clough & Ferguson). He knows the game and what's is needed on the pitch, sure he does have the manager's job when he on the pitch.

I know he has no Management experience but he would't be the first to get an Intl. job eg Hughes for Wales and Beckenbauer for Germany.

What do you think?

Not to mention Klinsmann who has never managed before but Germany gave him a big job for next year.

[colster]

Not to mention Klinsmann who has never managed before but Germany gave him a big job for next year.

Or Van Basten for Holland.

[Metrostars]

A couple more that have not yet been mentioned:

Omar Hitzfeld (2 time CL winner, not working right now)
Kevin Keegan

[tricky_colour]

Whatever O'Neils methods he consistantly got results which is what matters
at the end of the day.
He is 3-1 favourite at Paddy Power and we would be lucky to get him.
I certaintly hope he is the next manager.

[Tired&Emotional]

Kevin Keegan??!!! I wonder why he hasn't got a mention yet?!

[tricky_colour]

Kevin Keegan :rolleyes:

[mypost]

Omar Hitzfeld, Kevin Keegan

:D :D

And we thought Brian Kerr had failed?? Those two make Kerr as good as Scolari!! :D

[colster]

I find it strange that Martin O'Neill hasn't made a comment one way or the other. Maybe he is interested. What do you think?

[Schumi]

Not to mention Klinsmann who has never managed before but Germany gave him a big job for next year.
Don't think they're too pleased about that now though!

[JoeSemi]

No chance whatsoever, as Rehhagel doesn't speak English.

Fair enough but he didn't speak Greek either before he took them on and look what happened.

As regards placing Keegan in the same managerial bracket as Hitzfeld, your doing the German a massive disservice. Champions Lge winner with Bayern and Dortmund and has all the credentials you'd want. Keegan and management hardly go hand-in-hand:rolleyes:

[Stuttgart88]

Was Hitzfeld the guy with the coke habit, or was that someone else?

[JoeSemi]

No that was Christoph Daum, the current Fenerbache manager. The original master of Robbie Fowler's line celebration! He was once touted as a successor to Berti Vogts but was exiled to Turkey.

[Stuttgart88]

Ah, that's right. Thanks.

I thought that he wouldn't necessarily be the role model we're looking for, though the players might actually lighten up a bit!

[mypost]

Fair enough but he didn't speak Greek either before he took them on and look what happened.

I believe that his Greek language skills are far from fluent either. Speaking English is a fundamental part of the job, so Rehhagel is a non-starter. His style of play is the same, if not worse than Kerr's too, as was shown when Greece got found out in the WC qualifiers.

[colster]

How about Luca Vialli with Dennis Wise as assistant :)

[JoeSemi]

The thing is do we want results or entertainment? Its always asking a lot to get the two in tandom and if Rehaggel can do what he did with Greece there's no reason why he couldn't instill a similar belief and organisation into a new crop of Irish players. You have to wonder was his style of play made to fit the players he had at his disposal, or, is that the way all his teams have played? I don't know. Its all a bit hypothetical at the moment to be arguing the finer points of a German manger of the Greek national side with no English as Irelands next manager:)

[TheJamaicanP.M.]

I believe that his Greek language skills are far from fluent either. Speaking English is a fundamental part of the job, so Rehhagel is a non-starter. His style of play is the same, if not worse than Kerr's too, as was shown when Greece got found out in the WC qualifiers.

I have to agree with JoeSemi on this one. Rehhagel may play football to suit the players at his disposal. As for him playing the same if not worse football than Kerr, that's not true. Rehhagel's Greek team played with a lot of passion. They worked extremely hard and pressed the opposition, giving them little or no time to settle on the ball. If only Kerr could have instilled similar ideas into his Irish team we'd be laughing.

[Only2keanos]

I dread to think who will get the job. Anyone good that might have a bit of passion for the job like Martin O'Neill will probably not want it.

There are no real outstanding managerial candidates amongst ex irish players, Aldridge possibly has the best credentials and that is not saying much.

The likes of Paul Jewell, Peter Taylor, Steve Bruce, Ian Dowie etc might be decent but will any of them actually do any better than Kerr? In the absence of a ready made replacement, I think it is hard to justify not giving Kerr another chance. He probably didnt do enough to warrant a new contract but he only got 1 full campaign as manager. One thing you can be sure of is that we wont find anyone with the same commitment and devotion to Irish football that he had.

Especially if we get some clown like Kenny Dalglish to take over. He would only be in it for the golf courses and the retirement fund.

Philippe Troussier is another Berti Vogts in waiting.

I have heard other disturbing names emerge like Robson, Venables and George Graham. Sure why dont we go all out and get Big Ron, or Barry Fry, Graham Taylor or even Howard Wilkinson.

[Tired&Emotional]

I see Kav has called for an Irish manager to get the passion of Irish back into the side.....

I have to agree with him there...but having said that does it imply BK hadn't enough passion or more likely he'd like MON to take charge?!


http://www.rte.ie/sport/2005/1020/kavanaghg.html

[Cowboy]

I have heard other disturbing names emerge like Robson, Venables and George Graham. Sure why dont we go all out and get Big Ron, or Barry Fry, Graham Taylor or even Howard Wilkinson.

I hear Ron Bassett may be available, he has a decent record in the world cup :)

[SeanieBoy]

There is talk in the HeraldAM about Sam Allardyce, Jack Charlton suggested it!!

[Jerry The Saint]

Irelands next manager needs to have the following criteria ;


1. Resident in England
2. A proven track record in dealing with Premiership/first division players.
3. Not likely to pine for day to day training involvement
4. A proven track record in getting results from limited resources
5. Hard necked
6. Sense of humour



I would LOVE to see Sir Clive Woodward get the job, even if only for a few days, just think of the amount of sh!t it would stir up! I'm sure it would be easy enough to get the FAI on board, they could make a killing at the bookies by getting him at huge odds. Maybe even leave him in for the first friendly, just for the craic, and then say that negative reaction has unfortunately meant that Sir Clive couldn't continue as manager. Use their winnings to pay Gus Hiddink's/Scolari's/Arsene Wenger's salary and put a deposit down on the new stadium. Everyone's a winner! :D

[Green Army Girl]

I would love to see Martin O'Neill take the job dont think he will but maybe its not all Brian Kerr's fault i dont think much of Chris Hughton either.

[eirebhoy]

Leo O'Neill (brother of Martin):

"It is every Irishman's ambition and I know he definitely wants to manage Ireland.

"He has expressed his desire on a number of occasions.

"I could definitely see him doing the job.

"Martin said that Geraldine is 'struggling on' - but that was said in a positive light.

"In my opinion there is a great chance that he will become Ireland manager because I understand the FAI does not need to make an appointment for some time.

"Geraldine's health situation could well be resolved by the time this comes an issue and I know that he would relish the challenge.

"Since there is no rush to appoint a new Ireland manager, the position will appeal to him greatly.

"But he will delay making any decision until Geraldine pulls through. This should be known in the next few months. Martin won't entertain the situation until them.

"Personally, I can see no reason why he won't take the job."

[Dan K]

Where/when did he say that?

[eirebhoy]

Where/when did he say that?
Copied and pasted from a Celtic forum, apparantly in the Star Sunday.

[finlma]

I said from the start we should try to get George Burley. He's a free man now since leaving Hearts. He's a brilliant motivatior and great at getting the most out of players.

[Cowboy]

I said from the start we should try to get George Burley. He's a free man now since leaving Hearts. He's a brilliant motivatior and great at getting the most out of players.
As for motivational skills and getting the best from players MON's ability is unsurpassed in my view.