What Team Will You Support In World Cup

[Dublin12]

WHAT is your comparison here? That I should support Hearts!! WHY? What link do Hibernian have with them thats so great that I should support hearts??? I really don't get your point here:confused:



You say you support the Scottish league,Hearts are in the Scottish league the last time I looked anyway, and are Hibs biggest rivals are they not?.So by your theory if Hearts where playing in Europe all Scottish league followers (including their rivals Hibs)should support Hearts.My point is you cannot jump on the bandwagon and start to support your nearest rivals no matter what club or country.I follow Leeds and will not be supporting England in the World cup, and you'll find it's club over country for most English aswell.

[Tired&Emotional]

In supporting an ENGLISH club, you are supporting ENGLISH league, and ENGLISH players, and when you support the club in Europe you are cheering on European succes to ENGLAND. So when you say you support EVERYONE who plays AGAINST ENGLAND it makes you a hypocrite:rolleyes:


That's a pathetic, childish and naive argument to make!

How you can make the leap from supporting a club through "supporting...English palyers" to the "cheering on European success to England" is nothing short of startling! You're vision is very blurred my friend - you are clouding a very simply issue by clutching to you're perception that people cannot differenciate between a club and a country. It is you who needs "help".

If I supported Bolton should I not be support all the national teams of all their international players? By you're ill-thought through suggestion the answer must be yes! The amount of foreign players in the Premiership now is phenomenal so you're "English players" thing falls flat on it's face!

You're opinion on this is so black and white (support club therefore must support country) that it only serves to show how A) you have not thought it through properly of B) you aren't capable of A).:D :rolleyes:

[Dassa]

For me will have to be T&T as they have taken NI mantle as the smallest nation to have ever qualified. And also because you like to see the small teams do well and hopefully a wee upset against England can occur.

[gustavo]

The amount of foreign players in the Premiership now is phenomenal so you're "English players" thing falls flat on it's face!

Fact remains despite all those foreign players you would still be supporting an english club

[Tired&Emotional]

Fact remains despite all those foreign players you would still be supporting an english club


And....? This has to do with supporting the national side does it?
Hibs4Ever used the "English players" as part of HIS argument!

I think it's a hollow argument but if you get your kicks out of HIS arguments (and esp. defending them) then knock yourself out buddie:D :D

[Hibs4Ever]

And....? This has to do with supporting the national side does it?
Hibs4Ever used the "English players" as part of HIS argument!

I think it's a hollow argument but if you get your kicks out of HIS arguments (and esp. defending them) then knock yourself out buddie:D :D


HIS arguement from HIS very first post is that it is still supporting an ENGLAND club, therefore ENGLAND football. Really don't understand what you don't get here

[Tired&Emotional]

HIS arguement from HIS very first post is that it is still supporting an ENGLAND club, therefore ENGLAND football. Really don't understand what you don't get here

Don't worry about it son...we'll agree to disagree on the whole thing! Though I couldn't help noticing you're avatar is FAI and you would suggest the Swiss and Ingerland as rivals for the ROI;) :D

when the Scots are playing again I'll look out for the Hibs supporter wearing a kilt in Inchicore then!!;)

[Hibs4Ever]

Don't worry about it son...we'll agree to disagree on the whole thing! Though I couldn't help noticing you're avatar is FAI and you would suggest the Swiss and Ingerland as rivals for the ROI;)

when the Scots are playing again I'll look out for the Hibs supporter wearing a kilt in Inchicore then!!


Of course its FAI crest :confused: And why would I be wearing a kilt :confused:


Anyway, as you say, we'll agree to disagree

[Peadar]

Many people on here have tried to twist and turn this to somehow suit their own ridiculous arguments.
It's familiar to me because I've heard it so many times.
Usually I just ignore them or change the subject to something less tiresome, such as the weather.

There are a couple of simple facts here.
Supporting an English football club and then actively supporting any team who plays against England makes you a hypocrite!

No one expects that you should support England simply because you own a Liverpool pencil case, but others are entitled to take exception to the vehemence with which you purport your anti England sentiments.

England has been mentioned as a rival to us but those unfortunates failed to read the topic title or simply ignored the fact that Ireland haven't qualified for the World Cup 2006. We're a rival to no one and no one a rival to us.

The good people of England don't need your "support" but I certainly hope, for the sake of our reputation as a nation, that they never hear your opinion.

[razor]

As I have always been interested in English football I will be cheering them on for the World Cup.

[lofty9]

I'll be supporting Portugal as I'll be there for 3 weeks during the WC:D

[gustavo]

Many people on here have tried to twist and turn this to somehow suit their own ridiculous arguments.
It's familiar to me because I've heard it so many times.
Usually I just ignore them or change the subject to something less tiresome, such as the weather.

There are a couple of simple facts here.
Supporting an English football club and then actively supporting any team who plays against England makes you a hypocrite!

No one expects that you should support England simply because you own a Liverpool pencil case, but others are entitled to take exception to the vehemence with which you purport your anti England sentiments.

England has been mentioned as a rival to us but those unfortunates failed to read the topic title or simply ignored the fact that Ireland haven't qualified for the World Cup 2006. We're a rival to no one and no one a rival to us.

The good people of England don't need your "support" but I certainly hope, for the sake of our reputation as a nation, that they never hear your opinion.

Great post Peadar!

[on_me_head_son]

Many people on here have tried to twist and turn this to somehow suit their own ridiculous arguments.
It's familiar to me because I've heard it so many times.
Usually I just ignore them or change the subject to something less tiresome, such as the weather.

There are a couple of simple facts here.
Supporting an English football club and then actively supporting any team who plays against England makes you a hypocrite!

No one expects that you should support England simply because you own a Liverpool pencil case, but others are entitled to take exception to the vehemence with which you purport your anti England sentiments.

England has been mentioned as a rival to us but those unfortunates failed to read the topic title or simply ignored the fact that Ireland haven't qualified for the World Cup 2006. We're a rival to no one and no one a rival to us.

The good people of England don't need your "support" but I certainly hope, for the sake of our reputation as a nation, that they never hear your opinion.

Well said Peadar!!

For myself, I'll be shouting for South Korea as I've been living here for the last three years.Don't think they'll do as well as 2002 though.

Australia will be my second team because most of my mates here are Aussie. Man, they're over the moon with qualifying.Hope they can cause a few upsets!

[Snoop Drog]

For me will have to be T&T as they have taken NI mantle as the smallest nation to have ever qualified.

Jamaica is alot smaller than NI.

[Tenderloins]

Trinidad and Tobago.Any chance that they'll have two ex LOI players in the squad ? Avery John and Derek Phillips.

[Karlos]

I'll be looking out for any nation with an Arsenal player playing so i guess that's Switzerland, Sweden, Ivory Coast, France, England, Germany, Spain, Holland. ( i must admit however to drawing the line when it came to supporting Igor Stephanovs Latvia at Euro 2004!!)

For purely selfish reasons however, I hope they all play well but get knocked out early(ish) (preferably thanks to a mistake by a Spurs player! ;) ) so that they can have a little rest before the new season starts. we've a terrible record in season's following major championships and I don't want to hear the 'we are tired' argument again!!!

On a serious note though, I'd like to see Spain, Holland or England go far - someone different from the usual suspects like Germany, Argentina, Brazil or Italy.

[Slash/ED]

Trinidad and Tobago.Any chance that they'll have two ex LOI players in the squad ? Avery John and Derek Phillips.

Avery John, barring injury, will be gaurenteed a place in their starting 11 and has been for ages. So I'm up for them.

[Littlest Hobo]

Many people on here have tried to twist and turn this to somehow suit their own ridiculous arguments.
It's familiar to me because I've heard it so many times.
Usually I just ignore them or change the subject to something less tiresome, such as the weather.

There are a couple of simple facts here.
Supporting an English football club and then actively supporting any team who plays against England makes you a hypocrite!

No one expects that you should support England simply because you own a Liverpool pencil case, but others are entitled to take exception to the vehemence with which you purport your anti England sentiments.

England has been mentioned as a rival to us but those unfortunates failed to read the topic title or simply ignored the fact that Ireland haven't qualified for the World Cup 2006. We're a rival to no one and no one a rival to us.

The good people of England don't need your "support" but I certainly hope, for the sake of our reputation as a nation, that they never hear your opinion.


Another ridiculous post from peader the ladder:rolleyes:
I've doubts about your Irishness lad:confused:
No one else on here, kisses Tan arse as much as you!!
Reckon you spent too long in Reading, with the middle English lot.
There's an arrogance and attitude in your tongue that's certaintly not Cork!
;)

[Den Perry]

I'll tell you one thing if that muppet Staunton gets the Irish job it will be a long time before we support Ireland in a world cup again He is definitely one of the ole ole brigade. It would be an absolute joke...Walsalls assistant manager! Also how could the players trust him after what went on in Saipan?

[NY Hoop]

I'll tell you one thing if that muppet Staunton gets the Irish job it will be a long time before we support Ireland in a world cup again He is definitely one of the ole ole brigade. It would be an absolute joke...Walsalls assistant manager! Also how could the players trust him after what went on in Saipan?

Ole ole brigade??? Explain that. He stood by his manager when someone decided that the WC wasnt for him:rolleyes:

But agree that anyone who goes for the job should have managerial experience.

KOH

[gspain]

Jamaica is alot smaller than NI.

According tho the CIA World Factbook

The population of Jamaica is

2,731,832 (July 2005 est.)

According to the 2001 census the population of Northern Ireland is

1,685,267

Jamacia may be smaller in area but I'm sure the stat referred to population which is afterall what matters when having a choice of players.

[Den Perry]

NY Hoop, I thought that you as a loi supporter would have known what the ole ole brigade was. Essentially it is the sort of clowns who go along with the "a sure we'll give itv a lash" train of thought. Those very idiots who painted a pathetic picture after we lost the final Euro 2004 Qualifier singing you'll never walk alone, with scarves raised after one of the worst Irish performances in recent years. Its the shower who love to have singalongs with the Matt hollands of this world......ah yes. The FAI probably have Staunton lined up with Pat Kenny as his assistant...what a joke. I shall never look at one of our games if he gets the job JOKE JOKE JOKE

[NY Hoop]

NY Hoop, I thought that you as a loi supporter would have known what the ole ole brigade was. Essentially it is the sort of clowns who go along with the "a sure we'll give itv a lash" train of thought. Those very idiots who painted a pathetic picture after we lost the final Euro 2004 Qualifier singing you'll never walk alone, with scarves raised after one of the worst Irish performances in recent years. Its the shower who love to have singalongs with the Matt hollands of this world......ah yes. The FAI probably have Staunton lined up with Pat Kenny as his assistant...what a joke. I shall never look at one of our games if he gets the job JOKE JOKE JOKE

Believe you me I know well who the ole ole brigade are. Havent been to lansdowne in a decade because of them and dont miss it. But how is Staunton, an ex player, part of the ole ole brigade? He made his debut in 88 before the gravy train started.

KOH

[Den Perry]

Ah yes the good old FAI!!!!!!!! What an absolute joke...The Red Haired one as our new manager. He has no personality, he has learnt his managerial trade under Paul Merson at Walsall for God's sake and was one of the the most overrated players since the early Charlton era. Its sick. I suppose when he is sacked after failing miserably it will be Houghton's turn. Then Bonner, then Quinn, then Mcateet.....oh yes Jack's boys are still doing well.

This is by far the FAI's most ludicrous decision (if its confirmed-as now looks likely) in a lomg time

SICK SICK SICK

I bet Steven Carr is really regretting his decision to retire now

[Den Perry]

When Staunton fails, Quinn will probably get the job, then Mcateer, then houghton....oh Jack's lads Its a f***** sick joke

Keane and steven carr must be having some laugh now! why in the name of jaysus would you want to get involved in the Irish set-up now?

[NY Hoop]

When Staunton fails, Quinn will probably get the job, then Mcateer, then houghton....oh Jack's lads Its a f***** sick joke

Keane and steven carr must be having some laugh now! why in the name of jaysus would you want to get involved in the Irish set-up now?

To play for your country:confused:

All of the names you mentioned have no experience so should not get the job. They should give it to Robson who has been there and done that.

KOH

[Peadar]

I've doubts about your Irishness lad:confused:

If I said that to you there'd be a huge debate about "Proper Irish" and all that 2G stuff. No need to worry about me. I'm comfortable enough with my Irishness to be able to embrace other cultures and nationalities.

It doesn't make me any less Irish because I cheer for one of the only teams where I can identify every single player.

[horney]

whoever england are playing ill support ......... other than that brazil

[Hither green]

There are a couple of simple facts here.
Supporting an English football club and then actively supporting any team who plays against England makes you a hypocrite!

No one expects that you should support England simply because you own a Liverpool pencil case, but others are entitled to take exception to the vehemence with which you purport your anti England sentiments.

I don’t agree at all with that. english clubs play in england, that’s just about the limit of their connection to the english national team. Most of the premier league clubs have as many non-englishmen as englishmen playing for them, many have non-english managers or even be owned by non-englishmen. Each club has time and time again shown that they don’t give a tinker’s cuss about the national team, but just their own selfish interests. Wimbledon even tried to move countries. england is a multi-cultural country with numerous different communities with lots of different loyalties, so even within england there are plenty who don't support the national side but are extremely loyal to their local community and team. I see no hypocracy in someone in Ireland supporting an english club side but not the english national team.



England has been mentioned as a rival to us but those unfortunates failed to read the topic title or simply ignored the fact that Ireland haven't qualified for the World Cup 2006. We're a rival to no one and no one a rival to us.

Fair enough, england aren't rivals in the forthcoming competition but older rivalries still exist – if only local rivalries, aren’t we entitled to those? Celtic are out of the cup but they’re still in Glasgow, so aren’t they entitled to continue with their attitude to Rangers?

[Peadar]

I see no hypocracy in someone in Ireland supporting an english club side but not the english national team.

That's not what I said. I never said people should support England if they support an English club.


Celtic are out of the cup but they’re still in Glasgow, so aren’t they entitled to continue with their attitude to Rangers?

Why did you need to mention the Glasgow clubs?
Is your rivalry argument based on sectarianism?

[Hither green]

Why did you need to mention the Glasgow clubs? Is your rivalry argument based on sectarianism?

No not at all. I'm not fussed either way on Glasgow football. It's just one of the biggest local rivalries and often a hot topic on this site. Same thing with the Manchester clubs or Liverpool clubs or wherever.

Anyway, if I've misunderstood your point what was your "hypocracy" point then?

Excuse me dredging up an old post. I didn't notice the date on it.

[Peadar]

Anyway, if I've misunderstood your point what was your "hypocracy" point then?

If you took the time to read my posts properly, you'd see the point I was making.

[Junior]

Why did you need to mention the Glasgow clubs?
Is your rivalry argument based on sectarianism?

More to the point. Why does a rivalry in Glasgow automatically equate to sectarianism with you?

[tonycuna]

I'll put my sympathy back Ivory Coast, coz Kolo Toure and Eboue, my gooner soldiers..
But about real support, there's no chance.. No Ireland, no support

[Peadar]

Why does a rivalry in Glasgow automatically equate to sectarianism with you?

That's how it's been portrayed to me in the media.

[Poor Student]

I'll be supporting Serbia and the black mountain as my girlfriend was born in Belgrade. I'll also be supporting Japan as I like their energy and style and am a big fan of Nakamura.

[Junior]

That's how it's been portrayed to me in the media.

Thought that might be the case.

[Peadar]

Thought that might be the case.

You don't honestly expect that I should waste money going up there to see for myself! I hear enough sectarian crap, from idiots wearing celtic tops at Ireland games, to last me a lifetime. Hun this and hun that. I don't even know what hun means!

Some of the disgusting behaviour of "Ireland" fans at Brian Kerr's first game was more than enough to back up the sectarian connection for me.

[Hither green]

If you took the time to read my posts properly, you'd see the point I was making.

Can't be @rsed! Any chance of a quick precis? :)

[Peadar]

Can't be @rsed! Any chance of a quick precis? :)

I said that if you supported an English club, then it was hypocritical to actively support any rival of England.
Not that you should support England.
Irish people love their anti-English rhetoric but equally love to jump on a plane to Liverpool, Manchester or London.

[Junior]

You don't honestly expect that I should waste money going up there to see for myself! I hear enough sectarian crap, from idiots wearing celtic tops at Ireland games, to last me a lifetime. Hun this and hun that. I don't even know what hun means!

Some of the disgusting behaviour of "Ireland" fans at Brian Kerr's first game was more than enough to back up the sectarian connection for me.

Not at all, spend your money on what you wish.

By your own admission you don't know what 'Hun' means, yet you are happy to label the people that use the term as sectarian?

It looks as though you let the media direct your opinions on this matter, coupled with the use of a term you don't know the meaning of.

No doubt there are idiots who support or purport to support Celtic as there are with all clubs. I find your general bashing of the club, and its supporters offensive when clearly you have had little dealings with them.

I guess we shouldn't go down this road (again) as your views are fairly entrenched. So anyway back on track.

- Poland, Japan will get my support as they have some Celtic Players.
- Any underdog will get my support (Ivory Coast for one)
- England won't get my support.

[Peadar]

It looks as though you let the media direct your opinions on this matter, coupled with the use of a term you don't know the meaning of.

Nah mate, my brother lives in Glasgow so I get first hand reports of what goes on. What a lame little argument you have by trying to imply that celtic fans calling rangers fans huns is the full extent of what goes on.

I think if we were to examine the reason why so many Irish people are celtic "fans", we'd see that it has nothing at all to do with the football.

I'm not sorry for offending celtic fans because I find the entire notion of why Irish people support the club offensive in itself.

I refuse to waste any further energy on this pointless debate.

[Hither green]

I said that if you supported an English club, then it was hypocritical to actively support any rival of England.
Not that you should support England.
Irish people love their anti-English rhetoric but equally love to jump on a plane to Liverpool, Manchester or London.

That’s what I thought your point was about and I stand by mine. english clubs and the english national team are barely connected, they’re entirely different things - one representing a country/nation and the other a town/group of supporters in that town. I don’t see anything at all hypocritical about supporting Charlton Athletic and wanting the english football team to lose.

[Junior]

Nah mate, my brother lives in Glasgow so I get first hand reports of what goes on. What a lame little argument you have by trying to imply that celtic fans calling rangers fans huns is the full extent of what goes on.

I didn't imply that this was the full extent to the rivalry of Celtic & Rangers. I made a comment on a direct quote from you.



I think if we were to examine the reason why so many Irish people are celtic "fans", we'd see that it has nothing at all to do with the football.

Correctamundo. That is the beauty of what Celtic represents, its more than just a football club, something I am extremly proud of.



I'm not sorry for offending celtic fans because I find the entire notion of why Irish people support the club offensive in itself.

I refuse to waste any further energy on this pointless debate.

Obviously thats your perogative, but we can agree at least to stop wasting our time on this one.

[Peadar]

Another ridiculous post from peader the ladder:rolleyes:
I've doubts about your Irishness lad:confused:
No one else on here, kisses Tan arse as much as you!!
Reckon you spent too long in Reading, with the middle English lot.
There's an arrogance and attitude in your tongue that's certaintly not Cork!
;)


By the way, this is very offensive and a very personal attack.
It's the kind of thing that is commonly heard from Celtic "supporters."
Another reason to resent them and everything they stand for.

[ccfcman]

I'll be supporting all minnows me :D

[Peadar]

Dross....I don't know what age you are, but I was around for the Jimmy Hill days on BBC, demeaning Irish football....

Old people like you can live in the past all you want but there are some of us who want to move on.
If my English mates slag me off, they get double it back. That's banter and it's what supporting football is all about.

I wore my colours all throughout World Cup 2002 and got nothing but words of encouragemnet and support from everyone. Watched Ireland games on the BBC and heard nothing demeaning said about Ireland.


I will be supporting 4 teams Paraguay, Sweden and Trinidad and Tobago

So is England your 4th team?

[NY Hoop]

That’s what I thought your point was about and I stand by mine. english clubs and the english national team are barely connected, they’re entirely different things - one representing a country/nation and the other a town/group of supporters in that town. I don’t see anything at all hypocritical about supporting Charlton Athletic and wanting the english football team to lose.

I see where you're coming from given where you live. But the point is people here "supporting" english clubs and then wanting the english national team to lose IS hypocritical.

I wouldnt agree about their clubs and national team being barely connected. Premier league clubs maybe but if you look at the amount of flags they bring to games the majority of them are lower league clubs.

Here's an interesting article from the Mail On Sunday. Embarrassingly drury is Irish:rolleyes:

Parading of "IRA TROPHY" Puts Pressure on Celtic

Mail on Sunday

"celtic football club was yesterday facing fresh controversy over alleged links between its fans and the IRA.

The club was recently forced to condemn secterianism after two players were filmed at a supporters event in ireland, during which chants of sinn fein and IRA could be heard.

Now the club itself is at the centre of the storm after agreeing to allow a football trophy named after an IRA intelligence chief to be paraded around celtic park despite the clubs insistence that it `condems` support for paramilitary orginisatioms.

All-Ireland champions tyrone have been allowed to take the Sam Maguire cup on a lap of honour of the ground before the spl match with dundee utd on jan 28.

However, sam maguire was head of IRA operations in london around the time of the easter rising in 1916.

It has been suggested he ordered th IRA murder of conservitve mp sir henry wilson in june 1922.

Maguire is a revered figure in Republican circles, having sworn in Micheal Collins to the Irish Republican Brotherhood in 1909.

The disclosure will come as a major embarrassment for celtic who outlined they`re stance on the IRa only las wednesday."

by paul drury


Sent off a very snotty email to them. Sick of their anti Irish propaganda.


KOH

[Hither green]

I see where you're coming from given where you live. But the point is people here "supporting" english clubs and then wanting the english national team to lose IS hypocritical.

I wouldnt agree about their clubs and national team being barely connected. Premier league clubs maybe but if you look at the amount of flags they bring to games the majority of them are lower league clubs.

We’ll have to beg to differ. I don’t see anything hypocritical about it. Going to a lot of lower league games I’ve come across quite a few fans who would die for their local side but aren’t into international football (probably because it rarely involves players they know). But anyway I can’t see many Irish fans “supporting” Macclesfield or Rochdale so its the premier league that we’re really talking about. Liverpool vs Man Utd has now very little to do with the cities of Liverpool and Manchester. It’s about a club called Liverpool (with their foreign players, 100 year history and connections with Ireland) playing a club called Man Utd (with their foreign players, 100 year history and connections with Ireland). They’ll probably have as many people interested in Scandinavia as they will in either city.

[sylvo]

[QUOTE=NY Hoop]

Here's an interesting article from the Mail On Sunday. Embarrassingly drury is Irish:rolleyes:



That Paul Drury is indeed an @sskissing ******. Not the first time this W*** B*** has come out with cojones like this.

I wonder does he feel the same about Americans naming the city and the state of Washington after someone who his paymasters and hero's once called a terrorist, as well as that person who Thatcher called a terrorist in South Africa who turned up at Galway uni to get a degree just before he opened the special Olympics.