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Fixer82
14/07/2024, 9:53 AM
None of this really matters
Let’s see how he does. I’ll have a proper opinion in a year
liamoo11
14/07/2024, 10:03 AM
Just seen online HH has said he'd like to do the domestic based internationals, and hold them around January. I know it was suggested here earlier, but is something I always wanted to see. It's also something I think the Women's team really should be doing.
It's a good idea to promote the league but it seems totally irrelevant to the national team selection. If we are picking league of ireland player in the 17 months HH is our coach then we are in trouble
seanfhear
14/07/2024, 10:15 AM
Just seen online HH has said he'd like to do the domestic based internationals, and hold them around January. I know it was suggested here earlier, but is something I always wanted to see. It's also something I think the Women's team really should be doing.
Do you mean South V North ~ A 32 county competition ? !
Jolly Red Giant
14/07/2024, 10:19 AM
Do you mean South V North ~ A 32 county competition ? !
It would be stuff like a LOI selection V a football conference selection or Welsh league or Icelandic league (what is known as a C international).
Acornvilla
14/07/2024, 10:27 AM
Given the increased importance of developing players at home after Brexit and the general trend of more former LOI players now being in the squad, there will likely be a few lads currently in the LOI playing for Ireland in the not too distant future, if this helps to identify them earlier and push them on slightly it's worth it. It's also a carrot for everyone in the league to strive towards, I see how it isn't a silver bullet, but it certainly wouldn't hurt.
I think it's more critical for the WNT to be doing this personally, but I'm all for it. I'd be interested to know if he's more leaning towards calling up basically all the lads who are current u17-21 internationals and playing 1st team football in Ireland. A squad like that on its own would be very interesting and could be supplemented with guys who might still have big moves to come in their career like Farrugia at Rovers. He's someone who probably can't sustain a career at a higher level because of his injury record, but he really can be excellent with more luck. I think we have a few of them around the league who haven't move abroad for various reasons or are late bloomers who probably deserve to be looked at.
Jolly Red Giant
14/07/2024, 10:31 AM
Tomorrow Spain plays England in a major final. Spanish football has been pathetic in its response to racism. English football has dealt with the matter much better.
I’m a vehement anti-racist but who am I up for?
And Spanish football has rampant misogyny as well - but racism, misogyny and homophobia is not confined to one country - how many English footballers have come out as gay? The English women's team have been subject to horrific abuse including before and after they won the Euros in 2022.
The Spanish football federation is noted for the links of the leadership back to Franco's fascist regime (as is the case in Portugal and Italy as well - where fascist elements have all played a leading role in the management of football - Trapp had links to the fascist MSI) - but sport has always been political - and always will be.
Bringing back the B team games would be better than this domestic based players only squad. We haven't held one since the end of Traps first year.
Stan had two in 06 and 07. Mick held three in the late 90s and Jack held three in the early 90s.
Even if you limited it to mostly an U23s camp you'll still get a couple of domestic players involved.
MylesNotMiley
14/07/2024, 10:43 AM
F**K sake.
Jolly Red Giant
14/07/2024, 10:43 AM
Given the increased importance of developing players at home after Brexit and the general trend of more former LOI players now being in the squad, there will likely be a few lads currently in the LOI playing for Ireland in the not too distant future, if this helps to identify them earlier and push them on slightly it's worth it. It's also a carrot for everyone in the league to strive towards, I see how it isn't a silver bullet, but it certainly wouldn't hurt.
I think it's more critical for the WNT to be doing this personally, but I'm all for it. I'd be interested to know if he's more leaning towards calling up basically all the lads who are current u17-21 internationals and playing 1st team football in Ireland. A squad like that on its own would be very interesting and could be supplemented with guys who might still have big moves to come in their career like Farrugia at Rovers
Brexit has had a benefit in that regard - but the government and FAI need to step up.
One of the pundits was pointing out recently (could have been Sadlier) that the FAI have ten academy coaches, while Croatia (a country with a million less population) has 176.
Many of the greatest Irish players didn't join English clubs until they were 18 or older, having played in the LOI first - it is not a recent phenomenon.
Eirambler
14/07/2024, 12:05 PM
It would be stuff like a LOI selection V a football conference selection or Welsh league or Icelandic league (what is known as a C international).
Is it not more like a full international, but just capping domestic based players, like they do in Scandinavia? So the game would be something like Ireland v Iceland with full caps awarded, but with only players based domestically in Ireland and Iceland being involved and presumably a much reduced ticket price to get a crowd in.
Sweden played Estonia in a game like this in January this year, they played Iceland in a similar game in January last year. Many of the players involved will never win caps outside of those January games, but it's a common thing in that part of the world to play the games and award caps to the players.
I don't think it's necessarily a bad idea as long as people appreciate that probably not a single player involved would be likely to make the next squad that includes overseas based players.
Stuttgart88
14/07/2024, 12:09 PM
Where do we place Troy Parrott hanging out with Kinahan associates? it makes me suspicious about his judgment / intelligence. I don’t know how close his friend’s association was tbh. Related? Active henchman?
liamoo11
14/07/2024, 12:25 PM
Is it not more like a full international, but just capping domestic based players, like they do in Scandinavia? So the game would be something like Ireland v Iceland with full caps awarded, but with only players based domestically in Ireland and Iceland being involved and presumably a much reduced ticket price to get a crowd in.
Sweden played Estonia in a game like this in January this year, they played Iceland in a similar game in January last year. Many of the players involved will never win caps outside of those January games, but it's a common thing in that part of the world to play the games and award caps to the players.
I don't think it's necessarily a bad idea as long as people appreciate that probably not a single player involved would be likely to make the next squad that includes overseas based players.
Itsxall a distraction though. Let the man get an organised team with a clear style of play and clear ideas about how to react to changes in a game in thev17 months he has. Everything else around that is just window dressing . If there is to be a league of ireland selection let Crawford manage it as he woukd have a far greater knowledge of promising younger players in the league.
Acornvilla
14/07/2024, 12:35 PM
Itsxall a distraction though. Let the man get an organised team with a clear style of play and clear ideas about how to react to changes in a game in thev17 months he has. Everything else around that is just window dressing . If there is to be a league of ireland selection let Crawford manage it as he woukd have a far greater knowledge of promising younger players in the league.
But would the point not also be to help HH gain knowledge? International managers have little to be at for half the year, I'm sure he wants to have a couple weeks coaching these guys and that's why he's suggested it.
liamoo11
14/07/2024, 1:17 PM
But would the point not also be to help HH gain knowledge? International managers have little to be at for half the year, I'm sure he wants to have a couple weeks coaching these guys and that's why he's suggested it.
My concern is it becomes a distraction and something like the excuses from Kenny where any time he was feeling he was been critiqued he came out with the utterly irrelevant stat around the number of players he had given first caps to as if in any way that had any importance or negated the total lack of organisation or game plan on show or worse his inability to react tactically within games or adjust the approach depending on what teams he was playing. If HH is in interviews in a year saying I held 2 games for loi players to try to distract from poor performance s then we are in trouble
Acornvilla
14/07/2024, 1:20 PM
I think focusing only on the senior team is why the entire organization is a shambles. We should be able to do more than one thing at once without worrying about it being a distraction. HH put a lot of energy in to domestic and youth football in Iceland, I'd be disappointed if he wasn't doing the same here, that on top of his international record is why he was hired I imagine.
pineapple stu
14/07/2024, 1:28 PM
But would the point not also be to help HH gain knowledge? International managers have little to be at for half the year, I'm sure he wants to have a couple weeks coaching these guys and that's why he's suggested it.
He was at the Shels game as they struggled past a Gibraltar side in Europe, as Derry lost in Gibraltar, the same week Rovers were seemingly outplayed in Iceland.
That should tell where the LoI is in terms of contributing to the national team
it makes me suspicious about his judgment / intelligence. I don’t know how close his friend’s association was tbh. Related? Active henchman?
I think that's a fair response, though it does seem to be more benefit of the doubt than Halgrimmson is getting at the moment.
And that was in mid-season against pre-season teams. A game for LoI players in pre-season sounds unhelpful.
Acornvilla
14/07/2024, 1:42 PM
I think I've already said in another thread I wouldn't count out all 3 clubs still going through just yet, we might feel very different about those games by next Thursday, or worse, who knows :D
I think everyone agrees there has been a massive talent drain on the top end of LOI, while a lot of the leagues biggest stars of the past decade are coming to the end of their careers. The league is very much in a transitional phase, although I think the bottom and middle of the league is probably as strong as it ever has been. I think as players from academies that have been doing excellent work come through, hopefully some others catch up, the league as a whole will be in a relatively healthy place. The average age might continue to trend younger and less experienced. We'll see how things develop and how sustainable full time football will be for older players if the improved crowds continue to hold. We're so far away from where we need to be at so many levels, and probably going slower than the competition. Nothing will change without massive funding, but I still think things are trending in the right direction. I am a bit worried about wage inflation at the top end and sustainability thou.
It seems to be a more negative side effect of Brexit, that L1/2 and Scottish clubs are looking to sign Irish, and a lot of promising guys are being snapped up in the 18-21 age range now, but they're also the guys I would expect to make up the bulk of these Domestic squads. Players who aren't the finished article but could turn out to be something.
I think there's great merit in the idea, I don't expect him to start calling up LOI lads for the sake of it, or immediately off the back of it but I think it's an idea that is the beginning of a process, that could lead to a lot of long term good, if it becomes an annual thing and a part of the culture of Irish football.
I also think it's almost a must for the women's side, because of the very different challenges they face.
liamoo11
14/07/2024, 1:55 PM
I think focusing only on the senior team is why the entire organization is a shambles. We should be able to do more than one thing at once without worrying about it being a distraction. HH put a lot of energy in to domestic and youth football in Iceland, I'd be disappointed if he wasn't doing the same here, that on top of his international record is why he was hired I imagine.
That's fair enough but I'd much rather HH was taking sessions with regional development under 12 and 13 squads and taking sessions with the national 15s,16s and 17s if he was to be do7ble jobbing. But at the end of the day that won't help him make changes within games tactically which is so important to try and get resukts. When u see how horrible Kenny wascatbthat particularly in.both Greek games and the Dutch games when he was absolutely skooled by opposition managers in games where more tactical ability and clear thinking on team structure within game would have got us resukts in those games. So whatever HH needs to do to be as tactically astute as possible that's what he and his team should be spending his time on not virtue signaling to the loi apologists who got us landed with Kenny in the first place through their utter blind unquestioning support for him that emboldened him and his ego
Acornvilla
14/07/2024, 2:02 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if he spends time traveling about, meeting people and putting on sessions etc. He was at a match with Jim Crawford already, so I'm sure he will continue to get to know the underage managers, their squads the whole way down. I do think the Ireland international underage structures are pretty joined up and function well together. Results have been very good for a number of years at least, so we're doing some stuff right. The big issue here is what is happening to kids around when they turn 16, and the absolute mess of league structures all over the place, waring factions and all of that.
I couldn't speak of HH's in game management, but he's been around the block and experienced a lot at the highest level you can with weaker players than he'll have with Ireland, so I am cautiously optimistic about how he'll do. It will be interesting to compare how we do against Greece next time out.
pineapple stu
14/07/2024, 2:06 PM
I think I've already said in another thread I wouldn't count out all 3 clubs still going through just yet, we might feel very different about those games by next Thursday, or worse, who knows :D
Oh they can all still go through - I think law of averages is two out of three will be the max - but still, players who struggle against Icelandic or pre-season Gibraltar club teams are a heck of a way off national team consideration
Acornvilla
14/07/2024, 2:27 PM
Oh they can all still go through - I think law of averages is two out of three will be the max - but still, players who struggle against Icelandic or pre-season Gibraltar club teams are a heck of a way off national team consideration
I don't disagree, not results or performances that would make anyone take notice, but are there individual players in the teams who we can hope for a lot more from, I'd imagine so, that's kind of been my point in general. The Derry result is cat thou :poo:
Eirambler
14/07/2024, 2:30 PM
I'd say there's plenty of space in the manager's calendar around that time for year for something like that. Whether it will have much long term benefit is open to question, but it's unlikely to do any harm. There's only so much benefit you can get going around England watching games week on week, missing a couple of weeks of that in January is unlikely to be much of an issue. And there's only so much match preparation and opposition analysis you can do also, it's a long time from November until March.
That the last guy couldn't successfully run a team had nothing to do with how much time was available to him, that was just a pure ability issue in that he didn't seem to have any. The downside of the proposal though is that the gap from the domestic league to the senior squad is potentially just too wide for anyone to successfully bridge it. But a game during the January transfer window might if nothing else give players a useful opportunity to increase their chances to move on to a better league at a time of year when clubs are on the lookout for reinforcements.
Olé Olé
14/07/2024, 2:59 PM
Paul Rowan has had a fairly woeful performance in his column during the 9 month manager search.
I was interested to see what he would provide now the void was filled.
"New Ireland manager to continue his dental work" is the angle on the front of The Times sport section. Pitiful.
EalingGreen
14/07/2024, 3:00 PM
Is it not more like a full international, but just capping domestic based players, like they do in Scandinavia? So the game would be something like Ireland v Iceland with full caps awarded, but with only players based domestically in Ireland and Iceland being involved and presumably a much reduced ticket price to get a crowd in.
Sweden played Estonia in a game like this in January this year, they played Iceland in a similar game in January last year. Many of the players involved will never win caps outside of those January games, but it's a common thing in that part of the world to play the games and award caps to the players.
Like the LOI, those countries have a summer league, so need match practice to prepare players for competitive, international qualifiers in the Spring.
However many of those other countries' international squad players play for domestic league teams, and so need such games at that time of year, which is where they differ from ROI squads.
EalingGreen
14/07/2024, 4:54 PM
Interesting to see how Craig Bellamy has addressed previous claims of bullying against him:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c6p26yp1dp4o
liamoo11
14/07/2024, 9:14 PM
Interesting to see how Craig Bellamy has addressed previous claims of bullying against him:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c6p26yp1dp4o
That is interesting. My under 14 girls team were swearing like docker s tonight so I feel his pain
HEIMIR HALLGRÍMSSON WILL meet John O’Shea in Waterford today as he aims to convince him to become his assistant manager.
And the new Republic of Ireland senior boss says that it “makes sense to me” that there will be a path for O’Shea to eventually take his job on a permanent basis.
Hallgrímsson admitted that it “takes a good character” to consider returning to the role of assistant after the former Ireland and Manchester United defender took charge on an interim basis for the last four games.
The Icelander’s surprise appointment was confirmed by the FAI after a 230-day search last Wednesday, with his contract running until the end of the 2026 World Cup qualifying campaign.
After initially chatting with O’Shea on a video call, he says he will drive to meet O’Shea today to thrash out a deal.
Hallgrímsson cited how his own route into international management with Iceland was similar, initially working as Lars Lagerbäck’s assistant for the 2014 World Cup qualifying campaign before becoming joint-coaches when they reached Euro 2016 and then taking sole charge for the successful 2018 World Cup campaign.
“My way into national team coaching was exactly like that and I think the assistant coach should be the one that carries the knowledge to the next cycle and they (the FAI) have obviously shown that they believe he is going to be, or is good enough to be the coach,” Hallgrímsson said.
“So I think it’s a no-brainer, whatever happens back to me, I always say the same thing, I want to leave the shirt in a better place when I go, and to have a guy that has been doing the things with us is probably always the best one to take over, if you want continuity, growth and development.
“That kind of makes sense to me but it’s always difficult to have been the head coach and then stepping down to be assistant coach. That takes a good character to do that.”
Hallgrímsson says O’Shea is “the most important guy for me” and will “start with him and take it from there” as he puts his coaching staff in place, but as of yet he is unsure of the Waterford native’s intentions.
“I think it’s better for me to talk about it after we speak but if he wants to meet probably he’s considering. I think it’s more positive than negative.”
Not totally against the idea of succession plans. Think it's always a good idea for Irish coaches to be involved with the national team. Even if said coach doesn't directly replace the manager in the end
But not a fan of all this talk about O'Shea being involved given how hard some pushed
https://www.the42.ie/ireland-manager-halgrimsson-john-oshea-6437090-Jul2024/
Razors left peg
15/07/2024, 8:56 PM
Get Barry Murphy instead of O'Shea if they want a successor path
Eirambler
15/07/2024, 9:33 PM
This is the masterplan of an evil genius basically - if things aren't going well the support base are a lot less likely to start calling for Hallgrimsson's head when they know that John O'Shea would most likely be the replacement!
Acornvilla
15/07/2024, 9:57 PM
I really wish they asked John what he thought about all this first tbh.
Eirambler
15/07/2024, 10:29 PM
I don't think they need to - it seems clear that O'Shea is happy to hang around as long as it takes to get any kind of role in the setup. I doubt he's overloaded with other offers in truth, at least not any good ones.
Acornvilla
15/07/2024, 10:40 PM
I don't think they need to - it seems clear that O'Shea is happy to hang around as long as it takes to get any kind of role in the setup. I doubt he's overloaded with other offers in truth, at least not any good ones.
I don't disagree, but I just think it's a bit weird and/or disrespectful and unprofessional to be so wildly speculating when they could just have already had the conversations internally. Maybe he's indicated he's on the fence and it's a bit of a public charm offensive, I don't know. Whole thing just feels unnecessary. I don't really have a strong feeling about whether he should actually get the job or not!
He might have realized he does want to be a manager and that he needs to go actually do it to improve tbf
Stuttgart88
16/07/2024, 8:43 AM
Going after O'Shea with such zeal seems a bit odd to me. It seems like HH is trying to appease the FAI rather than being his own man trying to bring in his own ideas and methods. On the other hand you could see it that he is happy enough in his own skin and confident enough in his ability to lead that he can make the project work without needing his own staff involved.
Eirambler
16/07/2024, 8:45 AM
I don't disagree, but I just think it's a bit weird and/or disrespectful and unprofessional to be so wildly speculating when they could just have already had the conversations internally. Maybe he's indicated he's on the fence and it's a bit of a public charm offensive, I don't know. Whole thing just feels unnecessary. I don't really have a strong feeling about whether he should actually get the job or not!
He might have realized he does want to be a manager and that he needs to go actually do it to improve tbf
That would go against all evidence to date though.
Two things are potentially being put in place here. Firstly, the scene is being set for our next manager to be a manager who has never managed a professional team before. The last time we tried that we ended up with the second worst manager in our history.
The other thing that is being put in place is a situation where the next manager is potentially being selected years in advance of him actually taking on the job. The last time we tried that we ended up with the worst manager in our history.
By all means offer O'Shea a coach role if he wants it and HH wants it too. But it should come with zero guarantees of any future promotion. And possibly the advice that his best hope of being the manager in future is to go out and get some senior management experience outside of the Ireland setup.
Eirambler
16/07/2024, 8:54 AM
Going after O'Shea with such zeal seems a bit odd to me. It seems like HH is trying to appease the FAI rather than being his own man trying to bring in his own ideas and methods. On the other hand you could see it that he is happy enough in his own skin and confident enough in his ability to lead that he can make the project work without needing his own staff involved.
I do wonder if the fact that HH comes without his own coaching team played a significant part in Canham's interest. There was a suggestion (from Kilbane) that at least part of the issue with Carsley was that he wanted assurances about getting his own team in place and they failed to agree. There were similar suggestions with Poyet. Then the FAI finds Hallgrimsson and he's happy to sign without a coaching team in place so the association can offer him the full manager salary budget (€550k) without having to commit any set amount to coaches. Then just offer him the likes of O'Shea on the cheap after the contract is signed.
pineapple stu
16/07/2024, 9:03 AM
Going after O'Shea with such zeal seems a bit odd to me. It seems like HH is trying to appease the FAI rather than being his own man trying to bring in his own ideas and methods. On the other hand you could see it that he is happy enough in his own skin and confident enough in his ability to lead that he can make the project work without needing his own staff involved.
Who was on the coaching staff at Jamaica? Wiki has a list of locals, including Darren Moore (the Port Vale manager) as head coach, but I don't know if that's updated since Hallgrimsson left. Seems very quick to have done it though, in which case he doesn't seem to have had his own crew there.
It does seem a bit unusual to fly completely solo and work with whoever the FA decide though.
Acornvilla
16/07/2024, 9:06 AM
Who was on the coaching staff at Jamaica? Wiki has a list of locals, including Darren Moore (the Port Vale manager) as head coach, but I don't know if that's updated since Hallgrimsson left. Seems very quick to have done it though, in which case he doesn't seem to have had his own crew there.
It does seem a bit unusual to fly completely solo and work with whoever the FA decide though.
I think the goalkeeping coach was Icelandic, but everyone else was Jamaican, I can't remember where I heard/read this thou tbh, it might have been on the interview with the Journo on RTE
Kind of hoping O'Shea says no to be honest. If he wants to become a manager, find a job managing someone... if that means dropping down the divisions or even looking at a job in the LOI then so be it.
Also it's not quite correct when HH says he took this path - he had several years managing in Iceland before becoming involved in the national team setup.
I think the goalkeeping coach was Icelandic, but everyone else was Jamaican, I can't remember where I heard/read this thou tbh, it might have been on the interview with the Journo on RTE
Goalkeeping coach was Icelandic and there was a performance coach that was German. Hallgrimsson worked with those two while with Iceland. His assistant was Swedish guy John Wall but only started working with him at Jamaica.
Eirambler
16/07/2024, 9:49 AM
What I'm taking (hoping) from this is that Hallgrimsson is a very hands on international manager that organises everything from training to tactics to opposition analysis himself and the coaches are basically just support to carry out his prescribed requirements rather than taking a lead themselves. So a job that nearly any certified football coach could do.
Pretty much the complete opposite of the Martin O'Neill approach (leave everything to the coaches, then rock up an hour before the game and announce the team and formation).
Jolly Red Giant
16/07/2024, 9:59 AM
Going after O'Shea with such zeal seems a bit odd to me. It seems like HH is trying to appease the FAI rather than being his own man trying to bring in his own ideas and methods.
Running with the hares and hunting with the hounds - just like he did with the Jamaican FA over Greenwood.
Razors left peg
16/07/2024, 10:12 AM
There's a little bit too much appeasement of the FAI and PR nonsense for my liking so far. The LOI international thing is pointless. Any good young player in the league is already in Ireland underage squads and there's not a single player 22 and up who are in the top 50 options for squad selection.
The story yesterday about HH driving to Waterford to get JOS on board is a load of b0ll0cks too. JOS is not in a position where HH should be going cap in hand to him, it should be the other way around if JOS wants to be involved. It smacks of trying to keep the ex player pundits happy who were calling for JOS to get the job and also the idiot social media brigade who wanted JOS "cos there was no one else".
I'm all for having Irish lads involved in the coaching set up but there are others much more qualified. Stephen Reid would be interesting, Barry Murphy another. Lads who have actual coaching experience.
Ultimately HH will be judged by what happens on the pitch and he does come across as a good guy but I hope we move on from this JOS story ASAP
What I'm taking (hoping) from this is that Hallgrimsson is a very hands on international manager that organises everything from training to tactics to opposition analysis himself and the coaches are basically just support to carry out his prescribed requirements rather than taking a lead themselves. So a job that nearly any certified football coach could do.
Pretty much the complete opposite of the Martin O'Neill approach (leave everything to the coaches, then rock up an hour before the game and announce the team and formation).
Which he probably did at Jamaica given his assistant was also the Jamaican U20s manager for a period of time and head of talent identification. So his duties were spread far beyond just working with the senior team.
There's a little bit too much appeasement of the FAI and PR nonsense for my liking so far. The LOI international thing is pointless. Any good young player in the league is already in Ireland underage squads and there's not a single player 22 and up who are in the top 50 options for squad selection.
The story yesterday about HH driving to Waterford to get JOS on board is a load of b0ll0cks too. JOS is not in a position where HH should be going cap in hand to him, it should be the other way around if JOS wants to be involved. It smacks of trying to keep the ex player pundits happy who were calling for JOS to get the job and also the idiot social media brigade who wanted JOS "cos there was no one else".
I'm all for having Irish lads involved in the coaching set up but there are others much more qualified. Stephen Reid would be interesting, Barry Murphy another. Lads who have actual coaching experience.
Ultimately HH will be judged by what happens on the pitch and he does come across as a good guy but I hope we move on from this JOS story ASAP
And if these roles were reversed lads would still be moaning that John O'Shea was trying to worm his way into a job.
Hallgrimsson now lives in Ireland and has said he wants to travel about abit. So don't see an issue with him wanting to talk with O'Shea face to face by going to Waterford. Likely left Waterford yesterday and then travelled to Cork for the match tonight.
Razors left peg
16/07/2024, 11:10 AM
And if these roles were reversed lads would still be moaning that John O'Shea was trying to worm his way into a job.
Hallgrimsson now lives in Ireland and has said he wants to travel about abit. So don't see an issue with him wanting to talk with O'Shea face to face by going to Waterford. Likely left Waterford yesterday and then travelled to Cork for the match tonight.
O'Shea traveling up to FAI HQ if he wants a job would be the normal way to do things no? HH going to him puts O'Shea in a position of power that he doesn't deserve
Diggs246
16/07/2024, 11:54 AM
O'Shea traveling up to FAI HQ if he wants a job would be the normal way to do things no? HH going to him puts O'Shea in a position of power that he doesn't deserve
I would guess HH is trying to lessen the "humiliation" of OShea who was favourite for the job a week ago. I think OShea is a good choice as number 2. Everyone loves him. He can be the conduit from the players to the manager. Even media duties
I really hope HH is given the euros ( assuming it's not a car crash)
seanfhear
16/07/2024, 12:11 PM
If only we had waited ~ ~ We could have had Gareth Southgate (wink)
Razors left peg
16/07/2024, 12:19 PM
I would guess HH is trying to lessen the "humiliation" of OShea who was favourite for the job a week ago. I think OShea is a good choice as number 2. Everyone loves him. He can be the conduit from the players to the manager. Even media duties
I really hope HH is given the euros ( assuming it's not a car crash)
Who is everyone? I don't know a single Ireland fan personally who thinks he's even a reasonably good coach. His buddies in the media are irrelevant
I really hope HH is given the euros ( assuming it's not a car crash)
The short term contract imo is probably just HH looking after himself. Not tying himself down and gives him some wiggle room when it comes to renegotiations 16 months. He does a good job and it might open up other opportunities for him.
osarusan
16/07/2024, 12:52 PM
A bit bizarre for Hallgrimsson to be laying the path for a successor.
He's only in the job 5 minutes, and his exit is on his mind.
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