View Full Version : Jake O'Brien D Everton b.2001
elatedscum
12/12/2023, 10:05 AM
Is he a real option though? Lyon are bottom of the table conceding two goals a game. His ratings aren't great (usual caveat there). The French league is probably the weakest of the top five. It's not a great look overall.
He's certainly in the conversation. If you assume we're playing 3 at the back, and we then have 6 centre-halves, it's been (oldest to youngest):
1. Duffy
2. Egan
3. Scales
4. O'Shea
5. Collins
6. Omobamidele
After that, you've got this group, depending on your preferences, injuries and form:
1. Mark McGuinness
2. Luke McNally
3. Darragh Lenihan
4. Jake O'Brien
5. Jimmy Dunne
6. Sean McLoughlin
7. Jack Clarke-Salter
8. Eiran Cashin
You'd imagine that Anselmo and Bosun won't be too far away from joining the conversation
LurcherLover
12/12/2023, 10:27 AM
I'd have McGuinness & O'Brien in the next squad quicker than Omobamidele. Duffy should be phased out and I've a bad feeling about Egan coming back from this latest injury, he certainly won't be around for the first NLgames.
pineapple stu
12/12/2023, 10:39 AM
Those seem two fairly reasonable comments I think.
seanfhear
12/12/2023, 12:17 PM
He's certainly in the conversation. If you assume we're playing 3 at the back, and we then have 6 centre-halves, it's been (oldest to youngest):
1. Duffy
2. Egan
3. Scales
4. O'Shea
5. Collins
6. Omobamidele
After that, you've got this group, depending on your preferences, injuries and form:
1. Mark McGuinness
2. Luke McNally
3. Darragh Lenihan
4. Jake O'Brien
5. Jimmy Dunne
6. Sean McLoughlin
7. Jack Clarke-Salter
8. Eiran Cashin
You'd imagine that Anselmo and Bosun won't be too far away from joining the conversation
How in the hell can a small soccer country like the Republic of Ireland end up with that many decent / half decent centre-backs ~ It's bordering on bizarre ! ~ No, It is bizarre !
He's certainly in the conversation. If you assume we're playing 3 at the back, and we then have 6 centre-halves, it's been (oldest to youngest):
1. Duffy
2. Egan
3. Scales
4. O'Shea
5. Collins
6. Omobamidele
After that, you've got this group, depending on your preferences, injuries and form:
1. Mark McGuinness
2. Luke McNally
3. Darragh Lenihan
4. Jake O'Brien
5. Jimmy Dunne
6. Sean McLoughlin
7. Jack Clarke-Salter
8. Eiran Cashin
You'd imagine that Anselmo and Bosun won't be too far away from joining the conversation
Joining Stoke has really dealt McNally's chances of cap in the near future a blow. His form after joining Coventry had him up there as the best performing CB in the league. So much so that only 2 of their 12 losses came after he joined. Thought he was unlucky not to get a call up in June.
Imo I'd have Anselmo ahead of Dunne, McLoughlin, Salter, and Cashin. Especially if we're playing with three CBs and he's been playing LB all season in the Eredivisie. Which is a problem position for us. So think his versatility and playing regularly should put him on that list already.
Hopefully Cashin doesn't have a clause in his contract which allows Derby to extend it a further year. Make things easier for him leaving this summer. Will be interesting to see if Brighton come back for him in January to get a deal done quick or wait till the summer.
What is it about Cashin? I've probably watched him 4-5 times. I just don't see it.
LurcherLover
12/12/2023, 3:27 PM
What is it about Cashin? I've probably watched him 4-5 times. I just don't see it.Hardly a great sample size to be basing judgement on. Especially a defender.
Eirambler
12/12/2023, 3:36 PM
How in the hell can a small soccer country like the Republic of Ireland end up with that many decent / half decent centre-backs ~ It's bordering on bizarre ! ~ No, It is bizarre !
We're a country of relatively tall people, with a football coaching setup that doesn't really adhere to the standard pass and move academy approach you find copied and pasted almost everywhere else in Europe now. Additionally a lot of our players play a mix of sports growing up, and the other ones they play tend to favour physicality over technical ability.
Basically everything about us as a nation of people - our size, our coaching and our mix of international and indigenous sports - contributes to us producing centre backs above any other position. It's not a coincidence that, in a period where there is a worldwide excess of technical midfielders, wingers and full backs, we're an outlier that is consistently producing goalkeepers, centre backs and strikers.
Hardly a great sample size to be basing judgement on. Especially a defender.
Ummm that's why i was asking...
Razors left peg
12/12/2023, 4:31 PM
We're a country of relatively tall people
Can someone tell our midfielders that! As good as we are at producing tall defenders, we produce a lot of Hobbits in midfield
Eirambler
12/12/2023, 4:49 PM
That's probably part of the issue though. The big lads don't tend to get played in midfield,.from a young age they get put at the back or up front.
LurcherLover
12/12/2023, 6:46 PM
Ummm that's why i was asking...Oh, I thought you were saying that you watched him 4/5 times and you just didn't see it? As in didn't see his ability.
He's a young CB who does the basics right, is good in the air despite not being the tallest and can make good runs forward on the left. I think he would benefit and would stand out more in a better league/more technical team. Hopefully gets a move away from Derby.
That's 2 wins and two clean sheets in a row after an away win in Monaco. Definitely their best win of the season.
Relegation looks like way less of a threat now with 6 points between all those in the bottom half of the table. If he's still playing week in week out I reckon he has to be in the next squad instead of the likes of Duffy (looks like he carries a similar goal threat).
seanfhear
15/12/2023, 11:46 PM
That's 2 wins and two clean sheets in a row after an away win in Monaco. Definitely their best win of the season.
Relegation looks like way less of a threat now with 6 points between all those in the bottom half of the table. If he's still playing week in week out I reckon he has to be in the next squad instead of the likes of Duffy (looks like he carries a similar goal threat).What about the Duffy / O'Brien dream team goal threat ? !
Eirambler
16/12/2023, 9:14 AM
Any team with Duffy in it only gives me nightmares to be honest. Unless we're going back to playing a really deep defensive line, which I doubt we will be.
Between Collins, O'Shea, O'Brien, Scales, McGuinness and Omobamidele once he starts getting his game we surely won't need Duffy by next autumn? Egan could do with showing some better form when he comes back from injury or there might be question marks over his starting place also.
LurcherLover
16/12/2023, 9:43 AM
Any team with Duffy in it only gives me nightmares to be honest. Unless we're going back to playing a really deep defensive line, which I doubt we will be.
Between Collins, O'Shea, O'Brien, Scales, McGuinness and Omobamidele once he starts getting his game we surely won't need Duffy by next autumn? Egan could do with showing some better form when he comes back from injury or there might be question marks over his starting place also.
I'm not that hopefull for Egan to be honest. Him and Duffy are the same age and Egan isn't even expected to be back to full fitness until late next year after his latest injury and surgery, according to Sheff Utd. Obviously, if he gets back to full fitness and his previous form, he'll be good to have in the squad but I think we should be focusing on the lads you mentioned above.
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Some nice passing from O'Brien.
https://twitter.com/MatolissoB/status/1735992470477877714
Interesting stat highlighted by OLs tv channel about O'Brien only giving away one foul in the last five games. Impressive stat given his size. While you might expect a big lad to win his duels it can be easy at times for opposition players to buy a foul against big lads like O'Brien.
https://www.foot01.com/equipe/ol/jake-o-brien-un-chiffre-dingue-etonne-meme-l-ol-431153
Jake O'Brien, a crazy figure even surprises OL
Arriving as a complete unknown, coming from Crystal Palace, where he never played, Jake O'Brien is becoming indispensable to Olympique Lyonnais with very flattering statistics over the last 5 matches.
Thanks to a 3-0 victory against Toulouse, Lyon got some fresh air. If the Rhone club is still last in Ligue 1, it is only three lengths behind Téfécé, 15th. During this match, Alexandre Lacazette scored a hat-trick, full of opportunism. On his first goal, the attacker was served by Jake O'Brien. The Irish defender continues his good streak, having already scored 3 goals since the start of the season. In addition to his important offensive contribution to theOL, the former Cork City player is also predominant in defense. Although he cost a goal during the match against RC Lens (3-2 defeat of Les Gones), the 21-year-old stands out for his ability to be impeccable.
On the set of the OLNS show, on OL Play, Gaël Berger throws out a double-verified figure, showing that Jake O'Brien only made one mistake during of his last 5 matches, against precisely 5 caused faults. For comparison, over the same period, Sinaly Diomandé, Dejan Lovren, Henrique and Nicolas Tagliafico committed 7 fouls and 8 for Clinton Mata as well as Saël Kumbedi. Jake O'Brien is therefore the most reliable defender of this Lyon team, despite his lack of experience at the highest level. The 22-year-old gives 100% and deserves his starting place, as the editor-in-chief of OL Média explains. “He only made one mistake. It seems incredible because he's big, he plays a lot with his arms. He is 1m97 tall. This is a huge asset on set pieces. It is astonishing, especially in terms of its running quality. For the moment, we haven't seen him get ahead of himself” explains Gaël Berger, seduced by the surprise recruitment of Jake O'Brien.
Predator
18/12/2023, 9:55 AM
From that highlights video, he looked fairly comfortable playing in the wide areas, which not all CBs do. I wonder, given his apparent pace, does he have it in him to be a full-back too, similar to how Dan Burn evolved for Brighton and Newcastle.
Another win and clean sheet sees Lyon out of the relegation zone.
pineapple stu
20/12/2023, 10:48 PM
And with ten men for the last few minutes too
Fair dues to him. He's certainly putting his case across
ontheotherhand
21/12/2023, 10:12 AM
that's some highlight reel above. looks very tidy. Shane Duffy with an eye for a pass? I'd take that.
Stuttgart88
21/12/2023, 11:13 AM
Naff music though.
backstothewall
21/12/2023, 11:50 AM
What about the Duffy / O'Brien dream team goal threat ? !
I'd love to see that.
pineapple stu
14/01/2024, 7:11 PM
One of two Lyon players given straight red cards in a 3-1 defeat against Le Havre today. Looking at a couple of matches out now; pity in terms of the momentum he had been building up
Rumour of course, but lines up with some separate rumours I was hearing late last year about Everton scouting O’Brien and well keen.
https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2024/everton-demand-lyons-jake-obrien-in-exchange-for-arnaut-danjuma/
Olé Olé
01/02/2024, 5:01 AM
John Fallon saying Everton and Atalanta have had bids rejected for Jake O'Brien
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/soccer/arid-41321962.html
Have Everton even got money to spend this window given all their issues.
seanfhear
01/02/2024, 9:23 AM
Have Everton even got money to spend this window given all their issues.Down to their last few Toffees alright ~ Sticky Situation.
Olé Olé
01/02/2024, 10:39 AM
Have Everton even got money to spend this window given all their issues.
But John Fallon said they made a bid?
Rumour of course, but lines up with some separate rumours I was hearing late last year about Everton scouting O’Brien and well keen.
https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2024/everton-demand-lyons-jake-obrien-in-exchange-for-arnaut-danjuma (https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2024/everton-demand-lyons-jake-obrien-in-exchange-for-arnaut-danjuma/)/ (https://betpokies.com/reviews/fresh-casino)
It looks to me like Everton will continue to try to strengthen the center-back position. Maybe Jake O'Brien won't be part of their lineup, but someone else will join. Not now, but in the next year.
Have Everton even got money to spend this window given all their issues.
Everton will have to find the money to solve all their issues.
samhaydenjr
28/02/2024, 1:44 AM
Into the semi-final of the Coupe de France after a win on penalties against Strasbourg. The game was scoreless
He's done enough this season to justify a call up, and with Paddy McCarthy now involved for March's games surely we'll see him involved.
Looks like he might have just scored the winner in a 3-2 victory away to Toulouse. Sees them into the top ten now. Isn’t that his third or fourth goal this season?
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Eirambler
15/03/2024, 8:59 PM
Yes, it ends up being the winning goal. If nothing else, we could be some threat from corners if we can get all of him, Collins, O'Shea and Omobamidele on the pitch.
seanfhear
15/03/2024, 9:12 PM
He's a big unit alright.
samhaydenjr
04/04/2024, 3:25 AM
Looks like he might have just scored the winner in a 3-2 victory away to Toulouse. Sees them into the top ten now. Isn’t that his third or fourth goal this season?
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Fourth of the season, second winner - He's their second highest scorer this season, behind Lacazette (they are a low-scoring team, with only 31 goals in 27 league games).
Will be facing Kylian Mbappe in the final of the Coupe De France after Lyon's victory over Valenciennes: https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2024/0403/1441569-euro-round-up-obrien-set-for-mbappe-showdown-in-final/
pineapple stu
14/04/2024, 8:02 PM
Credited with an assist as Lyon go 1-0 up on Brest tonight. Still half an hour to go, but as it stands Lyon are amazingly (given their start) up into the European spots now. 7 points from their first 14 games but 34 points from 15 since then
Eirambler
14/04/2024, 9:00 PM
Credited with an assist as Lyon go 1-0 up on Brest tonight. Still half an hour to go, but as it stands Lyon are amazingly (given their start) up into the European spots now. 7 points from their first 14 games but 34 points from 15 since then
Somehow this game ended 4-3 with Lyon scoring a 106th minute penalty to win it. They're up to seventh in the table.
samhaydenjr
14/04/2024, 9:20 PM
Credited with an assist as Lyon go 1-0 up on Brest tonight. Still half an hour to go, but as it stands Lyon are amazingly (given their start) up into the European spots now. 7 points from their first 14 games but 34 points from 15 since then
Somehow this game ended 4-3 with Lyon scoring a 106th minute penalty to win it. They're up to seventh in the table.
I had a look at Lyon's results on Wikipedia - if they had earned the same number of points in their first 14 games as they did in their second 14, they would have been neck-and-neck with PSG right now
tetsujin1979
14/04/2024, 9:32 PM
Somehow this game ended 4-3 with Lyon scoring a 106th minute penalty to win it. They're up to seventh in the table.
Insane game of football
Lyon went one up in the first half, Brest scored three goals in ten minutes in the second half to go 3-1 ahead.
Lyon got it back to 3-3
Two players were sent off around 87 minutes, and lyon win it with a last minute penalty after Lacazette is knocked out by the Brest goalkeeper!
Reported interest from Juventus in O’Brien for €20M according to the Gazetta.
https://m.allfootballapp.com/amp/news/Serie-A/Juventus-eyeing-Lyon-defender-Jake-OBrien/3378209
They must have a thing for that surname.
dr_peepee
13/05/2024, 8:37 AM
Ha!! Brilliant!!
ColourfulPeanut
13/05/2024, 11:05 AM
Does anyone know who the most expensive uncapped Irish player in history was?
If Jake moves for in the summer and isn't capped in June, that's got to blow the record out of the water entirely!
tetsujin1979
13/05/2024, 11:45 AM
Does anyone know who the most expensive uncapped Irish player in history was?
If Jake moves for in the summer and isn't capped in June, that's got to blow the record out of the water entirely!Maybe Jon Walters? Signed for Stoke for 2.75m in August 2010, first cap came the following November against Norway
Lyon have one league game left and need some results to go their way to finish within the European places or beat PSG in the cup final. If PSG win the cup then sixth gets the Europa League spot (currently Lens 50pts +8GD), 7th gets Conference playoff spot (currently Lyon 50pts -7GD), but Marseille have a game in hand which if they win they'll jump ahead of Lens and Lyon because of goal difference (currently 47pts +11GD).
Exgrad
13/05/2024, 12:58 PM
Does anyone know who the most expensive uncapped Irish player in history was?
If Jake moves for in the summer and isn't capped in June, that's got to blow the record out of the water entirely!
Jon Macken for 5m to City? All though he was an english player at that stage...
joey B
20/05/2024, 1:59 AM
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An excellent first season for O’Brien,can’t ask for much more of 1 million euro signing,cup final and Europa League qualification secured with him playing week in week out.
He seems to be a bit of a cult hero there and the supporters seem to be in 2 minds wether to cash in or keep him and hope he develops further,I’d really hope he stays at Lyon rather go to Juve who’ll have a new manager and are hard to gauge,another season of playing every week and Europa League football sounds like a good idea to me…..
Razors left peg
20/05/2024, 3:24 AM
Lyons form pretty much turned around when O'Brien cemented his place in the team. They looked like being in a relegation battle early on so it's been a great turn around by then.
I'd agree that I'd like to see him have one more season at Lyon though before he moves to a big club.
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