Keith Long

[brendy_éire]

Had forgotten that this is his second spell as a coach with Derry City. When was his first spell? I cant place him!

He was with Stephen Kenny in 2008.


Keith Long was full time so I would assume the next manager will be too.

Meant the Ireland U21 assistant job.

[bohsmug]

Meant the Ireland U21 assistant job.

Ah right, fair enough.

[culloty82]

Dan McDonnell now reporting that Ian Ryan has been officially offered the job.

[Jd2793]

i think thats a fantastic appointment for bohs. i'd have him at cork in the morning.

[The Bowler]

Ian Ryan looks to be the one. Rejected for the UCD job when he applied for it post Collie ONeill.......and now going to Bohs. On the interview panel that rejected him for the UCD job was one Andy Myler, who subsequently was appointed to the position. How FAIesque is that manoeuvre. Anyway, he will be brilliant at Bohs, I thibk he's the real deal. Bohs getting a good one

[total hoofball]

Ryan appears to be a talented young coach always a likable solid pro when he played for Shels, big leap from Wexford to Bohs he will have to hit the ground running at Dalymount or they will be on his back

[Bohtastic]

Not sure what to make of this. Yes, Wexford have performed well this year, but there's a feeling of bit of a punt about this.
The expectation at Wexford is low, not the same as we have at Dalymount. Not sure if Croly will stay on, although I felt that our team seemed poorly coached in comparison to many of their opponents, so that might be a blessing.

[placid casual]

That decision could go either way bohtastic I think.
Ryan got shels promoted and promptly fired. Could be bohs are seeing the relative managerial novices around the league and thinking that's the way to go.
He will need a good couple of seasons to get you into Europe, I feel so if the beekeeping, beard stroker's on the terrace can be patient it might work iut

[Longfordian]

Ryan has achieved even less than Ian Morris who I assume you're confusing him with, PC. I think it's a big gamble for Bohs but there aren't too many options out there really.

[kksaints]

He's done a fair job with Wexford and brought some life back to the place but I'd certainly have questions over his ability to set up a defence from the few times I saw them this Season.

[joey B]

Good to see another young coach at a big job,very few older managers left in the league now,massive jump in expectation for Ryan and a big risk for Bohs....

[ger121]

Not sure what to make of this. Yes, Wexford have performed well this year, but there's a feeling of bit of a punt about this.
The expectation at Wexford is low, not the same as we have at Dalymount. Not sure if Croly will stay on, although I felt that our team seemed poorly coached in comparison to many of their opponents, so that might be a blessing.

We?ve done it in the past with Callaghan and Long coming from so called smaller clubs and doing ok, so not surprised we might go with that approach again.

[ger121]

Ryan appears to be a talented young coach always a likable solid pro when he played for Shels, big leap from Wexford to Bohs he will have to hit the ground running at Dalymount or they will be on his back

We?ll be on his back so quickly, that he?ll be giving jockey backs off the pitch after his first defeat at Dalymount.

[Martinho II]

In fairness to PC Ian Ryan was a player at Shels when they got promoted under Alan Mathews so I can see the confusion. Wouldnt be surprised if Trevor Croly will stay on as he was coach for us in 07 season when Ian Ryan was on loan for us from Shamrock Rovers. I think its a gamble but its well worth the risk imo.

[placid casual]

Yeah, sorry wrong Ian.
Ryan is even less experienced than Morris so it's a bit of a gamble I guess.
Think they dodged a bullet with Dunne and Perth anyway, assuming they were even in the running in the 1st place.

[Jd2793]

Ryan has achieved even less than Ian Morris who I assume you're confusing him with, PC. I think it's a big gamble for Bohs but there aren't too many options out there really.

he is a much better coach than morris that is undeniable

[Bohtastic]

It worked OK with Callaghan and Long, because the expectations were relatively low. Not the case now given budgets and our switch to full time training etc.

There's a frustration in our support since our failure to get europe last year- Ian Ryan will have to get it right sharpish.

[Longfordian]

he is a much better coach than morris that is undeniable

The couple of times I saw Wexford he seemed to have them playing well but that's not really that difficult with no real pressure on them in the First Division. Neale Fenn had us playing some nice football in the First and he didn't last long in Cork. The pressure will be of a whole other level.

[Jd2793]

The couple of times I saw Wexford he seemed to have them playing well but that's not really that difficult with no real pressure on them in the First Division. Neale Fenn had us playing some nice football in the First and he didn't last long in Cork. The pressure will be of a whole other level.

fenn was dealt a shocking hand here infairness. a club that came within 12 hours of not being able to play his first game, he couldnt do better than a few loans. covid hit and redmond went back to england. then we lost oluwu in the summer we were goosed. its hard to see ryan stumbling on the same problems. there will be different pressure no doubt about it i think hes the best coach in the fd now, may aswell chance it at a club with some money to spend.

[ger121]

It worked OK with Callaghan and Long, because the expectations were relatively low. Not the case now given budgets and our switch to full time training etc.

There's a frustration in our support since our failure to get europe last year- Ian Ryan will have to get it right sharpish.

I?m not saying I agree with the strategy of hiring a manager from the 1st Division straight into a full-time set-up with a demanding fanbase, but I see why the club might have gone for it based on the past. He would not be my #1 choice, but if he is to be the one, then I hope he will be a great success, because it will mean the club too is also successful.

[ForzaForth]

My understanding is that Ian Ryan is contracted to Wexford for next year. I presume Lorcan (Fitzgerald) is too. Would be fair chunk of money involved to get him out of his teacher's job and pay Wexford off. Obviously, I'd be hoping he stays as he will almost certainly have a bigger budget next season with Wexford than he did this season.

[outspoken]

Yeah, sorry wrong Ian.
Ryan is even less experienced than Morris so it's a bit of a gamble I guess.
Think they dodged a bullet with Dunne and Perth anyway, assuming they were even in the running in the 1st place.

Isn't it amazing how unpopular Perth is given his CV. An awful lot of players don't have great things to say about his dressing room management, apparently Brian Gartland's book pretty much says as much, must give it a read. You'd think a fella who's won what he has would've walked straight back into a job. I think going back to Dundalk the second time didn't help his cause either

[Jd2793]

Isn't it amazing how unpopular Perth is given his CV. An awful lot of players don't have great things to say about his dressing room management, apparently Brian Gartland's book pretty much says as much, must give it a read. You'd think a fella who's won what he has would've walked straight back into a job. I think going back to Dundalk the second time didn't help his cause either

absolutely. made him look like a right beg. perth has never come across well enough in media appearances or interviews for me either. just doesnt strike me as someone who can rally a dressing room. if you dont have great coaching you need to have the man management/charisma to get the players running through walls for you. i cant even put a finger on where he'd land next.

[Another Bohemia]

I?m not saying I agree with the strategy of hiring a manager from the 1st Division straight into a full-time set-up with a demanding fanbase, but I see why the club might have gone for it based on the past. He would not be my #1 choice, but if he is to be the one, then I hope he will be a great success, because it will mean the club too is also successful.

Honestly not sure who else I would have considered a viable option. Reynolds would have been a good appointment but if he doesn't want to give up the u21 gig and the club want the manager to be fully focused on the club it's best for both parties to end it there. O'Shea has no experience managing a first team. Has some great names as clients by all accounts but he's a complete unknown and a bigger risk than Ryan. Dunne has less experience again so not sure why he was considered outside name recognition. I wouldn't hire Perth with Rovers money! There was always the feeling with him that he won the league by default because the players knew how to win from their time under Kenny and his subsequent seasons/spells in charge haven't convinced me otherwise. That leaves Ryan of the known candidates and he has over 50 games in charge. His win/loss record isn't great but how many games a season are Wexford expected to win? My one concern is that he might not have a network of players fit for this level built up and I'm hoping that a sporting director or director of football is appointed to handle that side of things. Longs last few transfer windows were an utter disaster bar a couple of signings and I hope the club has learned from that.

[Longfordian]

My understanding is that Ian Ryan is contracted to Wexford for next year. I presume Lorcan (Fitzgerald) is too. Would be fair chunk of money involved to get him out of his teacher's job and pay Wexford off. Obviously, I'd be hoping he stays as he will almost certainly have a bigger budget next season with Wexford than he did this season.

Presumably he can take a career break from the teaching job? Doubt he's on a huge amount in Wexford and teachers don't rake it in so a full time salary with Bohs would probably come close enough to his total income.

[nigel-harps1954]

Ryan done a great job with Wexford last season, but given he had an increased budget this season, and put together a decent squad, their league table position would have to be seen as a disappointment for Wexford. Fully expected them to be in the mix for playoffs this season, and they're being badly cut adrift again.

It's an uncertain sort of appointment for Bohs.

[outspoken]

absolutely. made him look like a right beg. perth has never come across well enough in media appearances or interviews for me either. just doesnt strike me as someone who can rally a dressing room. if you dont have great coaching you need to have the man management/charisma to get the players running through walls for you. i cant even put a finger on where he'd land next.

100%, came out with some right off the wall stuff in the media

[sbgawa]

I'd say they would have given the job to Tommy barret who has done a better job than Ryan but he ruled himself out as he saw the risk too great from a financial perspective.

[Jd2793]

I'd say they would have given the job to Tommy barret who has done a better job than Ryan but he ruled himself out as he saw the risk too great from a financial perspective.


barretts teams basically play caulfield ball. not really what any PD club with euro aspirations would want.

[Jack B]

According to Dan McDonnell, Ryan has removed himself from the frame due to frustrations with Bohs stalling the process. Seems a bit of a mess.

[2 Year Contract]

According to Dan McDonnell, Ryan has removed himself from the frame due to frustrations with Bohs stalling the process. Seems a bit of a mess.

Another Daniel Lambert and Co. masterclass

[ForzaForth]

Ah, good news!

[Longfordian]

Maybe Bohs have someone else lined up which was why they were stalling.

[Philosophizer]

According to Dan McDonnell, Ryan has removed himself from the frame due to frustrations with Bohs stalling the process. Seems a bit of a mess.
I?d say a few Bohs fans will be a bit relieved by that. He would have been a bit of an underwhelming appointment.

[The Bowler]

Maybe he took a look at the squad, realised that the transfer budget was limited, and thought complete poison chalice ? Maybe he asked for but wasn't granted a career break from the teaching job ? Or maybe (hopefully) he's on his way back to UCD when they finally do what they should have done months ago and sack Myler, who picked up yet another red card last night for abusing officials. His time is up at UCD I hear, his temper has got him into a few scrapes too many.

[total hoofball]

One way or the other Ryan has a teaching job where he would most likely be taking a career break so any whiff of messing around by Bohs he would be totally right to pull out of that crap. Maybe someone more high profile has come to Bohs' attention at a very late stage this week or Bohs played the put his name out in the media game on Ryan to test what the reaction would be from the fanbase

[RealJohn91]

Doesn't look great for the people making the decisions but most of the fanbase didn't want either Reynolds or Ryan going by social media anyway so we'll see who's next.

[Jd2793]

what a mare from bohs.

[ger121]

I think someone else the club preferred has come back to the table or else someone new has come into the picture. Ryan, Reynolds, Perth and Dunne were names hardly filling me with joy or enthusiasm. The RodFather II here we come. With the sequel being an even bigger hit than the first installment.

[Kiki Balboa]

I have a feeling that Bohs think the job is a lot more attractive than it actually is.

Apart from the derby game with Rovers, there is little between then and Shels at the moment in stature, and on and off the field they are far behind Pats in Dublin and Derry nationally, and even further behind Rovers. Dundalk might be in Europe next year, and will be a year further into O'Donnells reign agter statting from nearly scratch this year.

Add to it that there is a huge dearth of inexperienced LOI managers, I can see why they feel they are unable to find a new manager.

[Philosophizer]

I?d say they?ll be looking outside Ireland now. There doesn?t seem to be high enough level candidates available or interested.

[culloty82]

No words necessary:

https://twitter.com/McDonnellDan/status/1579159929419546624

[RealJohn91]

Not a good look for McDonnell that

[total hoofball]

So according to McDonnell this weekend:
Ryan OUT
Ryan IN/OUT???

Doesn't sound convincing anyway for a upcoming coach who is also a teacher with a pensioned public sector job which he had probably worked very hard for a decade or so with qualifications to be hanging over

[Shinkicker]

Far too many maybes, possibly, I think and I have a feeling posts about this. You have to remember the season is almost over and Bohs will finish midish table. So there is no need to make a hasty decision.

[sadloserkid]

Bohs were presumably stalling until Steve Bruce was available.

[culloty82]

Declan Devine is the latest contender in the frame:

https://twitter.com/ericwhite80/status/1580912097398968320

[culloty82]

Now official

https://twitter.com/bfcdublin/status/1580937510921740289

[Asterix]

Would have been better keeping Long.

[Jd2793]

awful appointment