Keith Long

[Martinho II]

Thats news to me about Andy Reid who is he involved with now in the premiership as I have heard very little from him lately!

[Dermobohs]

To add some info regarding full/part time at Bohs, I read in an article recently that only 1 Bohs player has a day job this year - Feely is a teacher.
The rest are all full time footballers, unless they have some students?
They still train in the evenings at the moment but are planning to move to day time training next year.
John o Sullivan is a painter, so he’s part time too.I think there’s two or three others but the rest are full time but training evenings. Going full time next season yeah so the part timers will be shipped out I’d say.

[Nesta99]

At the end of the day Bohs have won 13 of their last 42 league games. Any other manager of a comparable sized club in that type of form would've been sacked sooner.

Like a big club?

[Nesta99]

Keith Long has been full time for two or three years. The reason why the club has still been part time has been because most of the backroom staff was still part time and up until last season the likes of Buckley and Cornwall had other jobs too.

That makes even less sense! There has been plenty of blurring the lines on this, no broad agreement - maybe we need a definition of what is a FT club which is as LoI as it gets:D We have a few lads on amateur forms that have warmed the bench once or twice so Dundalk are not FT at all but are doing brilliantly to gallantly manage to stay in the mix with better resourced clubs.....?!

[Knocklyonhoop]

At the end of the day Bohs have won 13 of their last 42 league games. Any other manager of a comparable sized club in that type of form would've been sacked sooner.

didnt realise it was that bad a sustained run

[Philosophizer]

John o Sullivan is a painter, so he’s part time too.I think there’s two or three others but the rest are full time but training evenings. Going full time next season yeah so the part timers will be shipped out I’d say.
Fair enough. That article I read that had only mentioned Feely was probably before they signed the 9 players last month.

[joey B]

Thats news to me about Andy Reid who is he involved with now in the premiership as I have heard very little from him lately!

He’s at Nottingham Forest…

[Nesta99]

He’s at Nottingham Forest…

Brutal night so!

[ger121]

Ricer’s name popping up a bit. Mind you it was as well for Rovers when Bradley was looking like going to Lincoln.

[outspoken]

From what he said in recent interviews, I don't think he's ready to give up his ireland gig for the uncertainty of a LOI gig just yet.

[joey B]

The Bohs job is probably as tough as there is in the country now,the expectation from the supporters is there but the squad is miles off Rovers and probably Derry and Pats aswell ,huge job for any manager to get them closer to those teams….

[Philosophizer]

I wouldn't be surprised if they let Croly and Pender see out the remainder of the season. Who knows, things might pick up with Long gone. And if not, they still have the off season to find a replacement.

[Shinkicker]

I wouldn't be surprised if they let Croly and Pender see out the remainder of the season. Who knows, things might pick up with Long gone. And if not, they still have the off season to find a replacement.
My sentiment too. Take their time and find the right man.

[Nesta99]

Told by (usually close to the mark) person that's pretty close to Bohs currently, though not a member or fan, that there was some inflighting over the decision to axe Long before this weekend and that the reason for timing is that prior to this week 2 possible replacements were sounded (so not at all being actually approached:confused:)and 1 required a firm move on KL before any talks. Wouldnt say who or even if they were from LoI circles but I got the impression that they werent and got a flinch when Irish League mentioned. Make of that what you will. Possibilities?

[Kiki Balboa]

Paul Doolin will be raging when he doesn't get this job.....


I also wonder would Andy Myler be on their shortlist. I know UCD fans on here don't seem to rate him, but he has high enough stock it seems outside of UCD. Maybe the connection with Rovers will be too much for Bohs tho.


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One thing I do not get from Bohs is why sign so many players mid-season only to sack the manager who presumably brought them in a month later. If you are going to bring players in under Long, it is unfair to expect much from a team in near enough preseason against settled teams in the middle of theirs. Either you were building for next season or that was a silly plan- it's very hard to bring in a nearly new 11 in the middle of the year and expect them to gel right away and get results. Now a new manager would probably want to bring in his own players, and the past window was for nothing.


Long should have been let go before the window, to allow a new manager time to bring in his own players and build for the next year. Just bad footballing decisions from the club from the outside for me.. They seemed unwilling to make the hard call.

[brendy_éire]

Wouldnt say who or even if they were from LoI circles but I got the impression that they werent and got a flinch when Irish League mentioned. Make of that what you will. Possibilities?

Interesting thought. Doolin aside, who else could they tempt? There probably aren't too many who would consider a move.

Gary Hamilton, who's at Glenavon, or maybe Oran Kearney from Coleraine.
Healy won't leave Linfield, and Baxter is basically Crues manager for life at this point. McDermott at Glens has had loads of jobs, but is finally back home, so not sure he'd move.
I'd discount the rest.

Given a choice, Paddy McLaughlin could be a great signing, but not sure he'd leave Cliftonville at present.

[Longfordian]

Graham Coughlan linked today. Seems to have done ok in England.

[Nesta99]

Interesting thought. Doolin aside, who else could they tempt? There probably aren't too many who would consider a move.

Gary Hamilton, who's at Glenavon, or maybe Oran Kearney from Coleraine.
Healy won't leave Linfield, and Baxter is basically Crues manager for life at this point. McDermott at Glens has had loads of jobs, but is finally back home, so not sure he'd move.
I'd discount the rest.

Given a choice, Paddy McLaughlin could be a great signing, but not sure he'd leave Cliftonville at present.

That was my own initial thinking, if they were looking north that it would have to be a bit of a coup and he would fit the bill. It would take some serious effort, wouldnt be cheap and how do you deal with the coaches in place. Harps people might have some idea if he is the type that could be enticed away from the current job mid season..

[joey B]

That was my own initial thinking, if they were looking north that it would have to be a bit of a coup and he would fit the bill. It would take some serious effort, wouldnt be cheap and how do you deal with the coaches in place. Harps people might have some idea if he is the type that could be enticed away from the current job mid season..


The Derry fellas would have a better idea than anybody I’d say,he said in May he was close to joining Derry last year in a coaching role but also said he wants to become a full time manager aswell,would be an interesting appointment as he seems to be doing a fine job at Cliftonville….

[Jd2793]

Paul Doolin will be raging when he doesn't get this job.....


I also wonder would Andy Myler be on their shortlist. I know UCD fans on here don't seem to rate him, but he has high enough stock it seems outside of UCD. Maybe the connection with Rovers will be too much for Bohs tho.


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One thing I do not get from Bohs is why sign so many players mid-season only to sack the manager who presumably brought them in a month later. If you are going to bring players in under Long, it is unfair to expect much from a team in near enough preseason against settled teams in the middle of theirs. Either you were building for next season or that was a silly plan- it's very hard to bring in a nearly new 11 in the middle of the year and expect them to gel right away and get results. Now a new manager would probably want to bring in his own players, and the past window was for nothing.


Long should have been let go before the window, to allow a new manager time to bring in his own players and build for the next year. Just bad footballing decisions from the club from the outside for me.. They seemed unwilling to make the hard call.



yeah looking forward to doolin moaning alright. an insufferable dose this past few years.

[joey B]

https://mobile.twitter.com/bfcdublin/status/1565382904540274690

Job advertised on Twitter! It has not gone down well….

[2 Year Contract]

https://mobile.twitter.com/bfcdublin/status/1565382904540274690

Job advertised on Twitter! It has not gone down well….

Id love to understand the thinking behind tweeting out for expressions of interest. Surely any manager in the Irish football sphere already knows the job is available and any managers outside of that are unlikely to see the tweet. Not to mention that it also gives off the impression the board haven’t got an idea who they want to be manager. Just looks completely amateur hour

[Philosophizer]

I agree they should have given him until the end of the season after such a large changeover of players.
Regarding the timing, I'm also wondering if they sacked him before the Rovers match knowing that it would be near impossible to sack him afterward if they had beaten Rovers. It's unlikely at the moment, but he had a decent record in derbies, given the difference in resources. Didn't he go 8/9 derbies at one point without losing one? I don't remember he exact number but he had a great run in them for a while.
Anyway, that was an old Abramovich trick when he wanted rid of a manager. He often gave them the boot before a big game, because if they went and bloody won the big game he wouldn't have as strong a case.

[Nesta99]

Id love to understand the thinking behind tweeting out for expressions of interest. Surely any manager in the Irish football sphere already knows the job is available and any managers outside of that are unlikely to see the tweet. Not to mention that it also gives off the impression the board haven’t got an idea who they want to be manager. Just looks completely amateur hour

Its all peculiar even for Bohs! Im not saying any of this slagging off the club, its that it has been a tightly run ship over recent years even if some things not particularly of footballing interest to many, but then the clatter of signings, sacking a manager weeks later, and now a job advertisement on twitter etc? Has the real brain guiding the club gone off on long term leave or something!?

*Maybe if someone was approached prior to KL sacking, or maybe not through a club, that this is the kind of smoke screen than can go up, and claim there was no plan in place prior to this advertisement and avoid a few complication...

[Shinkicker]

Its all peculiar even for Bohs! Im not saying any of this slagging off the club, its that it has been a tightly run ship over recent years even if some things not particularly of footballing interest to many, but then the clatter of signings, sacking a manager weeks later, and now a job advertisement on twitter etc? Has the real brain guiding the club gone off on long term leave or something!?

*Maybe if someone was approached prior to KL sacking, or maybe not through a club, that this is the kind of smoke screen than can go up, and claim there was no plan in place prior to this advertisement and avoid a few complication...
Putting the ad out could mean they haven't anyone in mind and are using the ad as a holding tool until they contact someone or using the ad to give the interim team some time. Either way it makes it look like the sacking was not planned and they acted hastely.

[brendy_éire]

The Derry fellas would have a better idea than anybody I’d say,he said in May he was close to joining Derry last year in a coaching role but also said he wants to become a full time manager aswell,would be an interesting appointment as he seems to be doing a fine job at Cliftonville….

Yeah, offered the number two with us, turned it down, apparently.

He left Stute in the middle of the season to go to Cliftonville, albeit that's an easier move to decide on than moving to Bohs.

There's a bit of a presumption that he'll manage Derry at some stage. Well liked as a player, and he did a brilliant job with Stute, getting promoted during the 17-18 season. Stute had no money, were being outbid on wages by Inishowen League teams, and they ended up playing virtually the entire season away from Riverside after it was flooded in August.
Laid the foundation for them staying up comfortably in the next season too (he left in February).

[Martinho II]

I wonder would Pat Fenlon move out of his safety net and return to Bohs I wonder? Or is his days as mgr over for good?

[Nesta99]

Putting the ad out could mean they haven't anyone in mind and are using the ad as a holding tool until they contact someone or using the ad to give the interim team some time. Either way it makes it look like the sacking was not planned and they acted hastely.

Im pretty sure they have candidates in mind and there has been planning albeit it could have been rushed and not thought through and there are elements of winging it. But yes the tweet could be entirely benign but once again imo that would add to the odd way this has or is panning out.

[Knocklyonhoop]

I wonder would Pat Fenlon move out of his safety net and return to Bohs I wonder? Or is his days as mgr over for good?

id be amazed to see him as a manager anywhere again. Has a decent job up there without the hassle!

[RealJohn91]

Sligo had a similar tweet a few months ago when Buckley got sacked. Strange that didn't get the same type of reaction this is.

https://twitter.com/sligorovers/status/1528742663637417986?s=19

[Dermobohs]

Ah yes but a bit of bohs bashing has to happen!

[The Bowler]

Andy Myler is perfect for the job, but it may not be a big enough position to accommodate his burgeoning ego and self importance. Personality wise, very like your average Bohs fan, always spoiling for a fight over nothing, so a match made in heaven

[Another Bohemia]

Andy Myler is perfect for the job, but it may not be a big enough position to accommodate his burgeoning ego and self importance. Personality wise, very like your average Bohs fan, always spoiling for a fight over nothing, so a match made in heaven

Jokes aside the squad need a bit of fight in them. I've never seen a team so meek when a bit of a challenge is out in front of them. This season they lacked leaders on and off the pitch which can be seen with the rotating captains armband. I don't want Myler in I think he's a bit overrated myself but if someone came in with a bit of a fighters attitude I wouldn't be against that

[Another Bohemia]

Wouldn't be a fan of Myler for the job. I think he's a bit overrated all things considered. In saying that it's the type of character the current Bohs squad need. I have never seen a team so meek when a challenge is put to them. They lack leaders both on and off the pitch which is epitomised by the rotating captains armband. The team needs someone with a bit of fight in them and I think that person needs to be brought in sooner rather than later for multiple reasons

[bohsmug]

Andy Myler is perfect for the job, but it may not be a big enough position to accommodate his burgeoning ego and self importance. Personality wise, very like your average Bohs fan, always spoiling for a fight over nothing, so a match made in heaven

Irony

[Nesta99]

Sligo had a similar tweet a few months ago when Buckley got sacked. Strange that didn't get the same type of reaction this is.

https://twitter.com/sligorovers/status/1528742663637417986?s=19

The main difference is the holier than thou attitude that comes from the Bohs admin, debt cleared, climate justice stuff, look how conscientious we are etc etc and then go and do something like sign 9 players and then sack the manager. Unlike with the derby rivals who will pounce, for me it is both perplexing and entertaining. I even got the Rovers rolling of eyes and amusement at the tantrum like press releases after some Dublin Derbies and the irony subsequently. There has been great community work done and some stellar football related stuff too, the Rovers Derby hoodoo was great fun to watch. But when things turned more recently you could hear the Lambert foot stamping in Cork! I doubt Bohs fans would claim that this hasnt been botched or fits with the image the club is trying to project - eyes off carbon credits and back on the football in a football club when needed. A marketing man might see value in the any publicity is good stuff but LoI football fans can smell fudge from miles.

[ger121]

Andy Myler is perfect for the job, but it may not be a big enough position to accommodate his burgeoning ego and self importance. Personality wise, very like your average Bohs fan, always spoiling for a fight over nothing, so a match made in heaven

You ok hon?

[ger121]

The main difference is the holier than thou attitude that comes from the Bohs admin, debt cleared, climate justice stuff, look how conscientious we are etc etc and then go and do something like sign 9 players and then sack the manager. Unlike with the derby rivals who will pounce, for me it is both perplexing and entertaining. I even got the Rovers rolling of eyes and amusement at the tantrum like press releases after some Dublin Derbies and the irony subsequently. There has been great community work done and some stellar football related stuff too, the Rovers Derby hoodoo was great fun to watch. But when things turned more recently you could hear the Lambert foot stamping in Cork! I doubt Bohs fans would claim that this hasnt been botched or fits with the image the club is trying to project - eyes off carbon credits and back on the football in a football club when needed. A marketing man might see value in the any publicity is good stuff but LoI football fans can smell fudge from miles.

Well, there is making an announcement seeking a new manager on your social media channels and then there is making an announcement of a “new manager” when the real manager, the fella who was hired to be the manager but is now the “coach” is still at the club and the fella who is now the manager never wanted it in the first place and quits a month later. Now that is fudge production on a commercial scale.

[RealJohn91]

The main difference is the holier than thou attitude that comes from the Bohs admin, debt cleared, climate justice stuff, look how conscientious we are etc etc and then go and do something like sign 9 players and then sack the manager. Unlike with the derby rivals who will pounce, for me it is both perplexing and entertaining. I even got the Rovers rolling of eyes and amusement at the tantrum like press releases after some Dublin Derbies and the irony subsequently. There has been great community work done and some stellar football related stuff too, the Rovers Derby hoodoo was great fun to watch. But when things turned more recently you could hear the Lambert foot stamping in Cork! I doubt Bohs fans would claim that this hasnt been botched or fits with the image the club is trying to project - eyes off carbon credits and back on the football in a football club when needed. A marketing man might see value in the any publicity is good stuff but LoI football fans can smell fudge from miles.
Jaysus, you like a rambling nonsensical post don't you.

[Nesta99]

Well, there is making an announcement seeking a new manager on your social media channels and then there is making an announcement of a “new manager” when the real manager, the fella who was hired to be the manager but is now the “coach” is still at the club and the fella who is now the manager never wanted it in the first place and quits a month later. Now that is fudge production on a commercial scale.

Oh I agree totally, it was a sh1t show and it was a didnt know whether to laugh or cringe experience for Dundalk fans. I doubt you'd find a post by myself that would say much different. I think whataboutery could be the most futile Irishism there is - lets people off the hook, perpetuates the acceptance and cycle of the 'mutually rubbish at' so its ok to be rubbish. But hey deflection seems to be the Bohs way these days!

[Nesta99]

Jaysus, you like a rambling nonsensical post don't you.

I do, and I love Bohs post match statements for the same reason!

[sbgawa]

I'm just hoping that if we win tonight that Stephen Bradley doesn't upset wee Daniel again by banging his crest leaving the field. Hopefully bradser rereads the last letter and modifies his behaviour

[sadloserkid]

But when things turned more recently you could hear the Lambert foot stamping in Cork!

Can confirm. Measured on the Richter scale. Bohs do some great things to raise their profile and benefit their community but they're interspersed with enough absolutely cringey posturing that it makes me wonder if there's genuine insight there or if it's just a big wall and a whole lot of shyte situation.

[RealJohn91]

I do, and I love Bohs post match statements for the same reason!
I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about

[Nesta99]

I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about

Yeah that doesnt surprise me but If we're lucky there could be a reminder tonight for you - Rovers do your worst;) Do the CEO and Club President collaborate much?

[sadloserkid]

FWIW Dundalk renaming their stadium, "until the end of the season", is VERRRRRRRRRRY Bohs behaviour.

[RealJohn91]

Yeah that doesnt surprise me but If we're lucky there could be a reminder tonight for you - Rovers do your worst;) Do the CEO and Club President collaborate much?
Can you translate that into a coherent thought and come back to me?

[Martinho II]

See Jim Crawford is linked with bohs job today doubt he will quit his U21 job with ROI side.

[colonelwest]

The main difference is the holier than thou attitude that comes from the Bohs admin, debt cleared, climate justice stuff, look how conscientious we are etc etc and then go and do something like sign 9 players and then sack the manager. Unlike with the derby rivals who will pounce, for me it is both perplexing and entertaining. I even got the Rovers rolling of eyes and amusement at the tantrum like press releases after some Dublin Derbies and the irony subsequently. There has been great community work done and some stellar football related stuff too, the Rovers Derby hoodoo was great fun to watch. But when things turned more recently you could hear the Lambert foot stamping in Cork! I doubt Bohs fans would claim that this hasnt been botched or fits with the image the club is trying to project - eyes off carbon credits and back on the football in a football club when needed. A marketing man might see value in the any publicity is good stuff but LoI football fans can smell fudge from miles.

As a marketing man, a hell of a lot of it is absolute fudge! With my work hat on they've done a hell of a lot right off the pitch branding and marketing the club, along with all the community stuff but there's a hell of a lot of sniffing their own farts and smelling roses going on for a long time now.

It's almost become cult-esque with some of Bohs support, I've had conversations with many over the last few years and a lot won't take any legitimate point against the way the clubs been run or dodgy decisions, even if it's clear as day. On the other hand, there is a fairly vocal minority who would speak up internally about stuff. Something that's popping up lately now the wheels have fell off the wagon is that despite DL being full time COO or whatever it is, he's a load of side hustles going on and some are starting to say he should be concentrating on his day job running the club.


See Jim Crawford is linked with bohs job today doubt he will quit his U21 job with ROI side.

Crawford is definitely in with a shout for it, he's only on a rolling contract with the FAI. The big stumbling block is with the playoff end of the month, he's not going to leave the 21s high and dry before then, if they win that he'll most likely sign a new deal with the FAI to take him through the finals and the next qualifying campaign.

[bohsmug]

FWIW Dundalk renaming their stadium, "until the end of the season", is VERRRRRRRRRRY Bohs behaviour.

How exactly? Given that Bohs have existed for 130+ years and have literally never done that or anything even remotely similar.