2022 Kits

[wonder88]

I like the Waterford geansaí a lot, hope to see it a few times next year/season with them in same division as Galway.

[D24Saint]

The new Pats training range is a mixed bag. I reckon some of its top notch but other training shirts go over the top on the retro Umbro logo everywhere.

[SPXcyan]

I must be the only Waterford supporter to dislike the new kit, perhaps it'll look better on than off.. maybe.

[Martinho II]

I dont have access to twitter but I have seen our new home and away jerseys. Think home effort is rather poor. Away jersey is one of our best in years reminds me of the away jersey we had in 06/07 seasons.

[Jack B]

Big fan.

https://twitter.com/stpatsfc/status/1478803551593897990?t=2QLS5cXi7woAIbBeQXLrNg&s=19

[D24Saint]

Big fan.

https://twitter.com/stpatsfc/status/1478803551593897990?t=2QLS5cXi7woAIbBeQXLrNg&s=19

From the picture I think it’s awful , too much going on. Hoping it’s better when I see it in the club shop.

[2 Year Contract]

Really like the new pats home jersey. As I mentioned regarding the Waterford jersey, Umbro have majorly upped their game the last few years. Each Umbro club’s jersey has a different design which is great to see compared to the old ways of pushing 2/3 different templates out resulting in the exact same jersey for multiple clubs just in different colours

[EatYerGreens]

Big fan.

https://twitter.com/stpatsfc/status/1478803551593897990?t=2QLS5cXi7woAIbBeQXLrNg&s=19

Not bad. I like the recycled bottle angle that Umbro are doing these days. ONeills need to get onto that, or else the vegan woke warriors at Bohs will be choking on their frothamockachinos

[sbgawa]

Not bad. I like the recycled bottle angle that Umbro are doing these days. ONeills need to get onto that, or else the vegan woke warriors at Bohs will be choking on their frothamockachinos

I wonder are the tops waterproof?

[EatYerGreens]

I wonder are the tops waterproof?

Wouldn't be good for sweating/body heat management if so (?)

[sbgawa]

Should have put a smiley face after my "i wonder are they waterproof" :rolleyes:

[EatYerGreens]

Should have put a smiley face after my "i wonder are they waterproof" :rolleyes:

Or maybe just opted for something funny instead :p

[sbgawa]

Or maybe just opted for something funny instead :p

Ouch;)

[D24Saint]

Pleasantly surprised by our new home shirt when I picked it up this morning. It’s a nice kit , the only slight issue I’d have with would be the amount of dark lines on it.

[sadloserkid]

"Gaillimh Aontaithe on Twitter: "𝗢𝗿𝗱𝗲𝗿 𝘆𝗼𝘂𝗿𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗶𝘁'𝘀 𝘁𝗼𝗼 𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗲 ⚡️ We have a limited stock of the massively popular black and gold training tops. From age 7 to XXXL 🇱🇻 Check out our full range of gear : https://t.co/dGzg1uU6XL 🛍️ #ItsATribalThing https://t.co/fPwBa3MrYH" / Twitter" https://mobile.twitter.com/GalwayUnitedFC/status/1480561320969789443

Really like this.

[Bucket]

Ya it's nice, that's a map of town on the chest. It was released last year

[2 Year Contract]

Dundalk away kit: https://www.dundalkfc.com/new-third-kit/

Wait until Pineapple Stu reads the below line that Umbro ask the clubs to promote even through the HYPOCRISY of Dundalk playing on a plastic pitch which they’re replaced multiple times rather than a grass one ;)


The kit is one of Umbro’s most sustainable to date. Constructed using recycled polyester fabric, which is made from recycled plastic bottles, the advanced fabrics also include moisture-wicking and anti-microbial treatment.

[pineapple stu]

Are you actually trying to compare the impact of an admittedly plastic pitch but which gets regular use across the entire local community and has a life-span of what - 3-5 years? - with multiple flights half-way around the world to scout Pakistani players for the once-in-a-lifetime offer of a place in the St Pat's academy team, with each return trip generating more than 25% of the average EU citizen's annual carbon emissions from all sources, which we're already being told is way too much?

It's almost like you don't actually know what you're talking about. Which is rather worrying given that, like it or not, climate change is going to be the single most important political topic of the coming decades. (And one which is being abused as just a marketing tool at the moment)

[Nesta99]

If there had been a pic of just Tom McNulty you would just assume it was him holding up one of his old shirts. In 20 years time we will be looking back at the early efforts of this decade in 'worst of' lists. As for the old pitch, we have offset the carbon footprint of our plastic pitches (and Brian Kerr's airmiles 'cause he loves them so much) by never needing to maintain them obviously!!!

[2 Year Contract]

Are you actually trying to compare the impact of an admittedly plastic pitch but which gets regular use across the entire local community and has a life-span of what - 3-5 years? - with multiple flights half-way around the world to scout Pakistani players for the once-in-a-lifetime offer of a place in the St Pat's academy team, with each return trip generating more than 25% of the average EU citizen's annual carbon emissions from all sources, which we're already being told is way too much?

It's almost like you don't actually know what you're talking about. Which is rather worrying given that, like it or not, climate change is going to be the single most important political topic of the coming decades. (And one which is being abused as just a marketing tool at the moment)

No it was quite clearly a joke based on your massive overreaction to a single pats tweet pushing the recycled jerseys line that Umbro have asked the clubs to promote.

I’ve no doubt it’ll become the most important political debate in the future and on that day I’ll join a politics forum to talk about it. For now I’m happy enough to talk/read about football on this football forum

[Nesta99]

Dundalk away kit: https://www.dundalkfc.com/new-third-kit/

Is this a standard policy in such circumstances (tbh I cant recall if Harp was on youths jerseys back in the day), it does imply a quiet recognition of there being an issue? 'Infant and youth sizes come without the BetRegal logo'.

[2 Year Contract]

Is this a standard policy in such circumstances (tbh I cant recall if Harp was on youths jerseys back in the day), it does imply a quiet recognition of there being an issue? 'Infant and youth sizes come without the BetRegal logo'.

Yeah as far as I know betting/alcohol sponsors can’t be on kids jerseys in recent years. Celtic jerseys in shops for example don’t have Dafabet on them in kids sizes

[pineapple stu]

No it was quite clearly a joke based on your massive overreaction to a single pats tweet pushing the recycled jerseys line that Umbro have asked the clubs to promote.

I’ve no doubt it’ll become the most important political debate in the future and on that day I’ll join a politics forum to talk about it. For now I’m happy enough to talk/read about football on this football forum
Ah, the old "It was clearly a joke" line. No massive over-reaction either btw - it was a throwaway comment which, unfortunately, offended the "My club couldn't possibly be bad" brigade (yourself included) and then a debate arose. (I say "debate" but really, as I've noted, the lack of any sort of knowledge of/concern about/ability to discuss the topic is worrying)

Also, I think the "future" you talk about is already here btw.

[2 Year Contract]

Ah, the old "It was clearly a joke" line. No massive over-reaction either btw - it was a throwaway comment which, unfortunately, offended the "My club couldn't possibly be bad" brigade (yourself included) and then a debate arose. (I say "debate" but really, as I've noted, the lack of any sort of knowledge of/concern about/ability to discuss the topic is worrying)

If you genuinely believe that I wasn’t joking (winking emoji and all) and that I actually think an astroturf pitch is worse for the environment than flights are then be my guest I’m not really bothered. As I mentioned, you’ll find plenty that want to debate the topic on a related forum, but you’ll find that people on a league of Ireland forum generally want to talk about league of Ireland funnily enough.

Yes obviously being ‘green’ etc is a marketing tool used by companies. My point was that Umbro are the ones that have asked clubs to market the recycled kits, which each club have briefly done. I don’t know how much you know about marketing but a singular tweet from a club is far from marketing campaign. I’d agree with your point somewhat if pats had announced a climate change officer and shouted from the rooftops about it in the national media as Bohs did and then later announced the Pakistan thing but you really are overreacting over one tweet at the request of a kit supplier

[EatYerGreens]

On a related note to all of this - at some point football is going to have to address its hugely wasteful commercial strategy of changing shirts so frequently. It's obviously done to cash in on extra sales, and clearly it works. But as the tide turns slowly against the concept of 'fast fashion', then football will eventually end up in the spotlight itself for the impact that changing shirts regularly has upon raw materials, water, energy, shipping etc etc. Making them out of recycled bottles doesn't erase their carbon footprint, and is just an attempt at green-washing.

The football industry won't like it, as shirts are an importat revenue stream. Some fans will doubtless also complain as they like new shirts etc. But it will clearly become an issue at some point. And some club will doubtless aim to be the hero/martyr by being the first to take a stand on this with longer shirt designs.

[D24Saint]

Dundalk away kit: https://www.dundalkfc.com/new-third-kit/

Wait until Pineapple Stu reads the below line that Umbro ask the clubs to promote even through the HYPOCRISY of Dundalk playing on a plastic pitch which they’re replaced multiple times rather than a grass one ;)

Not bad that one.

[sbgawa]

On a related note to all of this - at some point football is going to have to address its hugely wasteful commercial strategy of changing shirts so frequently. It's obviously done to cash in on extra sales, and clearly it works. But as the tide turns slowly against the concept of 'fast fashion', then football will eventually end up in the spotlight itself for the impact that changing shirts regularly has upon raw materials, water, energy, shipping etc etc. Making them out of recycled bottles doesn't erase their carbon footprint, and is just an attempt at green-washing.

The football industry won't like it, as shirts are an importat revenue stream. Some fans will doubtless also complain as they like new shirts etc. But it will clearly become an issue at some point. And some club will doubtless aim to be the hero/martyr by being the first to take a stand on this with longer shirt designs.

Is it really to often though?
I mean particularly for kids that grow so quickly 1 shirt change a year is needed anyway.
For Adults again is buying a new shirt every year a big deal , most people buy plenty of new shirts/tee shirts every year anyway and nobody thinks about criticising Clothing brands for their "winter" "Summer" "new season collections.

[pineapple stu]

It's a valid point I think. Fast fashion does get criticism. Microfibres and chemicals in modern clothing are a big issue; there's a growing concern that they enter the food chain and that the food we eat (fish in particular I think) could effectively be contaminated. Umbro's kits may be made "with" recycled polyester fabrics, but given the propensity for companies to exaggerate what they're doing with regards sustainability, what does that really mean? 10% recycled materials, 90% the same as before? And as EYG notes, three new kits a year is done to increase sales and everything that brings. Back in the day kits used to change every 2/3 years (and way less frequent than that once you hit the 70s) and we all lived to tell the tale.

I think there's very much room for a proper debate here (and not one where "bantz" counts as some sort of argument). The idea that politics and football should be separate is at best quaint these days given the focus on migrant treatment in Qatar for example, and before that the issues around the Brazil World Cup and whether funds could have been better spent. And sustainability isn't a political issue anyway; it's a social one.

[sbgawa]

Fair points Stu but are football jerseys fast fashion at €70 - €110 , i think that is more your "Pennys" where the kids buy gear for a few quid and toss it after a couple of uses.
You'd buy a Hugo Boss Tee-shirt for €100 and that's not fast fashion...........speaking with the expertise of someone who hasnt worn a football jersey for 30 years or a Hugo Boss tee shirt ever :)

[pineapple stu]

Well I don't think it's being implied that football jerseys are fast fashion as such. It's more that football kits as a logical follow-on target after fast fashion. Fast fashion gets criticism, so why shouldn't the clear waste of three new football kits each year get criticised?

[Nesta99]

Either way the impact is shocking on all sorts of levels and this RTE piece is probably tip of the iceberg. https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/1108/1258514-climate-change-fast-fashion-chile/

[EatYerGreens]

Either way the impact is shocking on all sorts of levels and this RTE piece is probably tip of the iceberg. https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/1108/1258514-climate-change-fast-fashion-chile/

Especially when you consider that, whilst 'ordinary' clothes often involve a mixture and range of natural and man-made material, football shirts are pretty much entirely synthetic these days. Mostly made out of polyester, which doesn't decompose naturally, is resistant to sunlight degradation, & takes about 200 years to break down. So those 3 football shirts a year being pumped out by clubs will have a combined lifespan of 600yrs. They're just chemicals in textile form.

A cotton t-shirt or a pair of jeans will biodegrade naturally (even though they will have been treated with chemicals at some point). A synthetic football shirt will out-live even your great-great-great-great-grandchildren.

The Terrifying Effects of Polyester on the Environment and Our Health (blueandgreentomorrow.com) (https://blueandgreentomorrow.com/environment/terrifying-effects-of-polyester-on-environment-health/)

[Jack B]

Ah, the old "It was clearly a joke" line.

It quite clearly was to be fair.


Nice kit from Dundalk anyway.

[D24Saint]

https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2022/0123/1275445-bohs-marley/

what’s the fascination with Bob Marley in Dalymount. Not a fan of gimmick jerseys. It should sell well though.

[nigel-harps1954]

https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2022/0123/1275445-bohs-marley/

what’s the fascination with Bob Marley in Dalymount. Not a fan of gimmick jerseys. It should sell well though.

You asked a question and answered it yourself there.

[2 Year Contract]

Strange that they released the exact same jersey as 3 years ago. Would’ve thought once they got the image rights they’d go with a new design also. I’m not sure many that bought the original one with the fist icon on it will buy the same jersey again with the only difference being the Bob Marley image replacing the other one

[D24Saint]

You asked a question and answered it yourself there.

Wouldn’t be into it all. Don’t get what Bob Marley has to do with Bohemians football club. I like Bob Marley but don’t see the connection. If it was Luke Kelly I could understand it a bit more.

[pineapple stu]

He played a gig in Dalymount once so they're celebrating their history.

I agree it is over the top a bit, but there is a connection there.

[D24Saint]

https://comeheretome.com/2011/11/08/a-lunitic-fringe-element-rock-richmond-park/amp/

I wonder how the members of Mungo Jerry would look on a shirt.

[nigel-harps1954]

It'll make them money and unprecedented jersey sales for a LOI club.

[DCWA]

I can be very critical at times of Bohs desperate “look at us” type antics - playing to the crowd l and they have massivley over cooked it recently.

Have to give credit for this though, there is a genuine if small connection there that feeds into a good narrative for the jersey and is already getting serious attention so in turn will sell numbers never seen before in the league.

So fair play to them.

[D24Saint]

Irish football team Bohemians share new Bob Marley-themed kit (nme.com) (https://www.nme.com/news/music/irish-football-team-bohemians-share-new-bob-marley-themed-kit-3144671)

This article mentions the gig in Dalymount in 1980.

[Jack B]

Thank god with didn't lose the final to them. Imagine how bad it would've gotten.

[Nesta99]

He who laughs last and all that. At least now some of the 'marketing worth' of the gimmick might see some tangible return now.

[Philosophizer]

Unfortunately the sponsor doesn't work nearly as well this time - Des Kelly interiors.

The original release a few years back had Mr Green as the sponsor, which was just perfect. It should still sell well but it's a major pity they've changed sponsor in the meantime.

[Lim till i die]

Do the bohs committee not believe bobs wife? #metoo

[Kiki Balboa]

Do the bohs committee not believe bobs wife? #metoo


To be fair, it is the same club that was paying Ismahil Akinade for 3 years.....

[EatYerGreens]

Fair play to Bohs on this one. They could've walked away with their tail between their legs after the Marley shirt farce a couple of years back, but instead they hung in there and found a way to make it happen. People will mock them, but this is a the kind of drive and ambition we almost never see in Irish football (even if it is 'only' for a shirt).

They will sell bucket loads of this shirt. An Ajax third shirt with much less overt Marley links (i.e. just the rasta colours and images of 'three little birds' on the collar) has been selling like hot cakes and is almost impossible to get in adult sizes (Ajax 3rd (European) kit 2021-2022 | Official Ajax Fanshop (https://english.ajax.nl/shop/matchwear/third-kit) ).

They should go the whole hog now and have a full range of training gear etc in the colours, as Ajax did. This will all sell more than even the famous Dublin City jerseys :D

[Bucket]

Not specific to Bohs, how much profit would a club make on a €60 jersey?

[EatYerGreens]

Not specific to Bohs, how much profit would a club make on a €60 jersey?

Would presumably differ by manufacturer and deal. But I'd surprised if they saw more than 15-20%. Could even be as low as 10% at a guess.

The real profit margin is of course made by whoever sells them. Presumably up to 50% of sale price goes to the retailer ?