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Counting Crow
25/06/2005, 1:19 AM
Just want to saay that tonight's "performance" (and I use the term liberally) by Longford was possibly the worst effort of football I have seen at The Cross in 25 years - no exageration. .... and I have seen a pathetic Galway and diabolic Kilkenny in the last 2 weeks - not to mind Dundrum "something" or other other a few years ago.

Devine had NOTHING to do in this game.

Longford were awfull. It was like kids "line the goal". It is no wonder that our League is in the state it's in when only a handfull of clubs (City, Shels, Bohs) make any effort to entertain the public!!!!

The public deserve better.

Good luck Digger - the only bright spot in and pathetic team! :mad:

p.s. I always had a soft spot for Longford - but after tonight, I hope they go the waay of Limerick, Ramblers etc and are banished to Div 1 and oblivium.

Mathews - you have pushed the League back 10n years with your negative, boring tactics - you are up ther with that muppet Brian Kerr (another Dub).

daithi
25/06/2005, 8:11 AM
Jeez....... Some of ye Cork boy's get very cocky when yer top of the league for a couple of weeks.............
It's not as if ye play total football, what have ye won lately???? :D
And don't start saying you'd rather play good football and win nothing than play crap and win three cups in two years.......
Don't judge us by one performance, we're playing ok lately. Listened to the game last night and the commentators said we played allright, but you'd know better i suppose........

Counting Crow
25/06/2005, 9:42 AM
Last night was dreadful from a Longford perspective.........even Galway and Kilkenny TRIED to play and ventured into our half a few times in the second half.

Longford made NO effort what so ever.............abysmal.

Oh yeahand as for your support..........sweet Jesus, even UCD brought more to the Cross.

I saw 1 supporter in The Horseshoe beforehand. The "away" section was COMPLETELY empty!!!!!!!

Maz
25/06/2005, 9:55 AM
Build a bridge and get over it....What are yez always whingin about? Calm down you got a point and are still top of the table!!

razor
25/06/2005, 10:00 AM
A very frustrating evening Crow.But teams will come for a point.
But in fairness while we did create chances in the 2nd half Digger had nothing to do. Someone would want to teach Keegan the offside rule, the perfect teachers would be the Longford back 10.
Gamble was being out muscled by a very physical Longford midfield, George was missing for a good piece of the game and if he wasn't missing he was getting in the way. He should have done better in stoppage time.
O'Flynn is showing no sign of improvement with matches. We desperately need a striker or 2. Kearney & Fenn played well, Roy wasn't great either and wasted a lot of ball trying fancy stuff when the simple ball would have sufficed. Another clean sheet (not hard last night) and some good attacking football, we just need someone who can finish.

the 12 th man
25/06/2005, 10:28 AM
Just want to saay that tonight's "performance" (and I use the term liberally) by Longford was possibly the worst effort of football I have seen at The Cross in 25 years - no exageration. .... and I have seen a pathetic Galway and diabolic Kilkenny in the last 2 weeks - not to mind Dundrum "something" or other other a few years ago.

Devine had NOTHING to do in this game.

Longford were awfull. It was like kids "line the goal". It is no wonder that our League is in the state it's in when only a handfull of clubs (City, Shels, Bohs) make any effort to entertain the public!!!!

The public deserve better.

Good luck Digger - the only bright spot in and pathetic team! :mad:

p.s. I always had a soft spot for Longford - but after tonight, I hope they go the waay of Limerick, Ramblers etc and are banished to Div 1 and oblivium.

Mathews - you have pushed the League back 10n years with your negative, boring tactics - you are up ther with that muppet Brian Kerr (another Dub).




steady on there,
you expected to win and only got a draw.
i've seen countless games like you've described above(and no not all involving town :rolleyes:, plenty in the english leagues)
thats football.

daithi
25/06/2005, 11:25 AM
Cork is a long trip to make on a Friday when most people are working, hence the lack of away support. Didn't ye have the Longford games on a saturday last season, why the change, does it suit the Cork fans more on a Friday?

patsh
25/06/2005, 11:43 AM
Spot on Crow.
To see that pr*ck Matthews absolutley thrilled with a nil all draw last night.....:rolleyes:

Longford fans, the height of your manager's ambition is a nil all draw.

Alan Kirby was the ONLY Longford player who seems to have ever heard of football, the rest seem to play some sort of mix of hoofball and head tennis.

Hard to believe we didn't win this game by 4 or 5, so we only have ourselves to blame. Longford fans are going to defend this rubbish of course, blather on about their cups, but the kind of sh*te that Longford "play" will just turn more and more people off the eL and gives the barstoolers all the ammunition they need.

Matthews ideal season seems to be finish mid table with 33 points from 33 games, goals scored zero, goals conceded zero...:rolleyes:

To more pressing problems. We are not going to do much in this league if we can't convert 2 or 3 chances out of 10 - 12?...:(
The game should have been over after 30 minutes, we wouldn't have been flattered to be 4 up at that stage. Instead not a solitary goal. Rico has said he is doing it, but this has to be sorted fast.
Is Grant the answer to our finishing problems that Razor has so accurately summarised?

kevincronin2000
25/06/2005, 12:19 PM
Cork is a long trip to make on a Friday when most people are working, hence the lack of away support. Didn't ye have the Longford games on a saturday last season, why the change, does it suit the Cork fans more on a Friday?


So is Bray,Dublin,Drogheda,Ballybofey,longford and Derryfrom cork but I can asure you will always see 150-500 of the rebel army there.

Maz
25/06/2005, 12:50 PM
Then look at the crowds you get at home compared to the crowds with get........You 3-4 times more so as a fan base you have alot more people. Some people cant travel thats our problem not yours!

sullanefc
25/06/2005, 2:16 PM
I don't understand why people are surprised by Longford's performance last night. Longford for the past 3-4 seasons (and probably before that as well) have been playing the most unattractive brand of football in the Eircom League. No flair and no sense of adventure. It's a case of clearing your lines and hopefully it will hit one of our forwards on the head and bounce in.

Thats why they win so many cups. They go out and play like that, take the game to a replay and basically just wear the other team down.

All in all, Longford are boring to watch.

Rant Over.

Sonic
25/06/2005, 10:00 PM
Spot on Crow.
To see that pr*ck Matthews absolutley thrilled with a nil all draw last night.....:rolleyes:

Longford fans, the height of your manager's ambition is a nil all draw.

Alan Kirby was the ONLY Longford player who seems to have ever heard of football, the rest seem to play some sort of mix of hoofball and head tennis.

Hard to believe we didn't win this game by 4 or 5, so we only have ourselves to blame. Longford fans are going to defend this rubbish of course, blather on about their cups, but the kind of sh*te that Longford "play" will just turn more and more people off the eL and gives the barstoolers all the ammunition they need.

Matthews ideal season seems to be finish mid table with 33 points from 33 games, goals scored zero, goals conceded zero...:rolleyes:

To more pressing problems. We are not going to do much in this league if we can't convert 2 or 3 chances out of 10 - 12?...:(
The game should have been over after 30 minutes, we wouldn't have been flattered to be 4 up at that stage. Instead not a solitary goal. Rico has said he is doing it, but this has to be sorted fast.
Is Grant the answer to our finishing problems that Razor has so accurately summarised?


It just shows you one thing that Alan Matthews and 99% of the longford town fans dont have a clue about football.I completely agree with you guys.Ever since Matthews took over all we have done is hoof the ball.Its dire to watch.The man has no common sense whatsoever.We will always be a midtable team with that donkey at the helm.Our average attendance a game is 700-900 max which is a far cry from the days of the promotion year.Noone in town seems to have any interest anymore since Matthews took over.While the town fans and general public are happy with mediocity things simply wont change.Tbh i cant blame ppl for not coming out to flancare to watch us we are absolutely dire to watch.I am a really big town fan but as things stand I and watever else is going to plod along each week is all that is going to be out there each week.The funny thing is Matthews said in the irishh independent that "mid table and a few cups was a good Season".What a complete and utter w@nker. What sort of ambition is that.With Kenny and his bunch of no hopers in 2001 ambition and hard work got us to where we are now all we seem to be happy with is taking part. :o :(

jorge
25/06/2005, 10:10 PM
I have to agree Longford are not doing the league any favours.No wonder theres such low crowds in one of the better Stadiums in the country and dont blame Rovers or location.Their only holding players like Dillon and Paisly back.

kevincronin2000
25/06/2005, 10:15 PM
When we played Longford up in flancare earlier in this season they came at us a bit and very unlucky to loose on the night, what the fcuk were they afraid of?

With all respect city are a good side, but if you play in the same division as us you should be a bit more attack minded. We are not brazil

harry crumb
26/06/2005, 12:10 AM
They have excellent players but they aren't taking it to the next level. Cup football is not going to give you success every year.

Players like Myler, Kirby, Barrett etc. are all excellent forward players but whatever way they play it doesnt exploit their strengths.

Remember 2 seasons ago when they nearly signed George. We could be like they are now if that happened.

kevincronin2000
26/06/2005, 9:10 AM
Remember 2 seasons ago when they nearly signed George. We could be like they are now if that happened.

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: , just nearly puked with that thought

CollegeTillIDie
26/06/2005, 10:13 AM
Oh yeahand as for your support..........sweet Jesus, even UCD brought more to the Cross.

I saw 1 supporter in The Horseshoe beforehand. The "away" section was COMPLETELY empty!!!!!!!

And that is praise indeed ! :D

the 12 th man
26/06/2005, 10:28 AM
It just shows you one thing that Alan Matthews and 99% of the longford town fans dont have a clue about football.I completely agree with you guys..................The funny thing is Matthews said in the irishh independent that "mid table and a few cups was a good Season".What a complete and utter w@nker. (


whats with you at all,
you are dissin 99% of the people who go to and follow the town.are you just trying to stir it or what ?

Macy
27/06/2005, 7:00 AM
whats with you at all,
you are dissin 99% of the people who go to and follow the town.are you just trying to stir it or what ?
He's just a knob who has a personal problem with Alan Matthews. It's nothing to do with how the town plays. If Town won the Champions League he'd still have problem with Matthews. Maybe he turned him down for a loan or something :rolleyes:

Cork are one of the favourites for the league. They're going to have teams playing for draw. You should be analysing why you can't break teams down, rather than having a go at teams for not playing into your hands.

Pathetic whingers, who spit the dummy when you don't win.

razor
27/06/2005, 7:41 AM
Pathetic whingers, who spit the dummy when you don't win.Not all of us, Macy.
I agree that we should be concentrating on breaking teams down, I mean it isn't a new phenomenon teams coming to the Cross and playing for a draw. its been happening for years. An early goal I feel makes all the difference. Our lads did try and try but i felt too many had off nights. i was half afraid ye might nick one in the end.

patsh
27/06/2005, 8:19 AM
He's just a knob who has a personal problem with Alan Matthews. It's nothing to do with how the town plays. If Town won the Champions League he'd still have problem with Matthews. Maybe he turned him down for a loan or something :rolleyes:

Cork are one of the favourites for the league. They're going to have teams playing for draw. You should be analysing why you can't break teams down, rather than having a go at teams for not playing into your hands.

Pathetic whingers, who spit the dummy when you don't win.
:rolleyes:

Thats right, ignore the utter sh*te that your manager thinks is football because it's only us whinging.:rolleyes:

City did break Longford down, maybe 7 or 8 times, we just couldn't get the ball in the net when we did break you lot down. As quite a few of us have already said, we ourselves are to blame for this.
And if you are happy with a manager who thinks the absolute best his players can get is a nil all draw......
All this crap about City are expected to win and plucky little Longford achieved a magnificent draw..:rolleyes:
So Longford are only there to make up the numbers?
So you lot have no ambition, chance, or hope of winning the league?

You made NO ATTEMPT to win the game the othe night. Thats a pathetic attitude from your manager and calling us whingers doesn't change that.

Macy
27/06/2005, 8:33 AM
We went away to the team top of the league and took a point. Job done. Much rather that than play more open football and come away with nothing. I actually think it shows it's own confidence in our abilities that we can go down there with a game plan and stick to it rather than go down there as plucky losers....

patsh
27/06/2005, 10:04 AM
We went away to the team top of the league and took a point. Job done. Much rather that than play more open football and come away with nothing. I actually think it shows it's own confidence in our abilities that we can go down there with a game plan and stick to it rather than go down there as plucky losers....
Macy, what people are discussing is the total lack of ambition and belief in his players on the part of the manager, he shows no confidence whatsoever in his players abilities.
Matthews will NEVER have you top of the league if he fills his players, and the fans swallow, this rubbish that "confidence in our abilities" consists of hoping to get a 0 - 0 draw.:rolleyes:

wws
27/06/2005, 10:37 AM
shock horror - team plays for a point away from home - geesh you'd swear some of these cork posters only started following (or folleying if you're Noel King) football this year

get over yourselves ffs - overly negative teams are easy enough to break down if they only have 'plan a' - the problem is Cork's - and how to get goals with no Doyle?

Sonic
27/06/2005, 10:43 AM
He's just a knob who has a personal problem with Alan Matthews. It's nothing to do with how the town plays.

oh yes macy nothing to do with how we play i really do love seeing the ball up in the air for 90 minutes and a good nil nil draw to go with it :rolleyes:

patsh
27/06/2005, 11:01 AM
shock horror - team plays for a point away from home - geesh you'd swear some of these cork posters only started following (or folleying if you're Noel King) football this year

get over yourselves ffs - overly negative teams are easy enough to break down if they only have 'plan a' - the problem is Cork's - and how to get goals with no Doyle?
Yet another pointless intervention from the relegation candidate...:rolleyes:

If you bothered to read the thread you will see that we all admitted that we had a problem in that our strike force did not score from plenty of chances the other night. This is our problem, as has also been discussed by City fans.
However, never let anything actually discussed get in the way of having a go at City....

Off back to your own site now and keep moaning about the useless crowd of absolute sh*te that passes for your team and management...

wws
27/06/2005, 11:12 AM
what on earth are you twáting on about - you seemed shocked that longford played for a draw......now you retreat into the anti cork conspiracy bunker when people have a go at such dribbling

patsh
27/06/2005, 11:18 AM
what on earth are you twáting on about - you seemed shocked that longford played for a draw......now you retreat into the anti cork conspiracy bunker when people have a go at such dribbling
"twáting" "dribbling" ??? :confused:

Is this what you junkies do to amuse yourselves while watching your team geting beaten? :eek: :D

wws
27/06/2005, 11:20 AM
no its me struggling for words to describe the tripe you post here

Macy
27/06/2005, 11:21 AM
Macy, what people are discussing is the total lack of ambition and belief in his players on the part of the manager, he shows no confidence whatsoever in his players abilities.
Matthews will NEVER have you top of the league if he fills his players, and the fans swallow, this rubbish that "confidence in our abilities" consists of hoping to get a 0 - 0 draw.:rolleyes:
No, shows that Cork are the better team, virtually full time and are clear at the top of the league. A point is a good result for us. You should be flattered that your seen as being one of the top teams. We didn't hope to get either, we did get. Proves it was the right decision. It's clear Cork haven't the capabilities to break down defensive teams, so it will continue to be a tatic employed in the cross.

patsh
27/06/2005, 11:21 AM
no its me struggling for words
Nothing new there then.....

Sonic
27/06/2005, 3:02 PM
No, shows that Cork are the better team, virtually full time and are clear at the top of the league. A point is a good result for us. You should be flattered that your seen as being one of the top teams. We didn't hope to get either, we did get. Proves it was the right decision. It's clear Cork haven't the capabilities to break down defensive teams, so it will continue to be a tatic employed in the cross.

Dont cod urself macy matthews did not go for anything other than a draw im sure he will do the same tonite.what a loser.

Macy
27/06/2005, 3:14 PM
Dont cod urself macy matthews did not go for anything other than a draw im sure he will do the same tonite.what a loser.
I never said he didn't just go for a draw. I happen to think that's a good result. btw What a winner you mean? What did your hero Kenny win us? Plaudits for good football mean fook all with an empty trophy cabinet....

Slash/ED
27/06/2005, 3:55 PM
While it's true that Longford have no obligation to play open attacking football to the benefit of their opponents, the standard of football they play at times is painfull to watch imo. And their crowds seem to be dropping, it's no coincidence, in the long run it's doing more damage than good to them.

Bald Student
27/06/2005, 4:37 PM
When UCD and Bray took points from the cross Rico wanted us out of the league because we were'nt entertaining enough. The cork public apparently don't like to see their team draw nill all. This is more of the same.

patsh
27/06/2005, 9:28 PM
When UCD and Bray took points from the cross Rico wanted us out of the league because we were'nt entertaining enough. The cork public apparently don't like to see their team draw nill all. This is more of the same.
No it's not. Bray came to the Cross, defended well, but attacked when they got a chance.
UCD came with a similar gameplan, defend and keep it tight, but they actually made some attempt to attack and could have scored.

Longford MADE NO ATTEMPT WHATSOEVER to score or get more than a point. They are brutal to watch, and while it's easy to dismiss us all as whingers, all City fans have said that not getting the 3 points was OUR fault, not Longfords, what we are commenting on is the pathetic attitude Matthews has to his team and players. He obviously doesn't believe that they can do anymore than play head tennis and hoof the ball up to Keegan. That is the entire extent of his football tactics.

It's dreadful to watch and its about time Longford and their fans face up to that fact.

Ronnie
28/06/2005, 9:03 AM
Well whatever about last Firday, the football played last night in Tolka was excellent. Very dissapointed to lose the game, but a hugely entertaining game. We had 6 good chances to score and between good keeping and poor finishing we didn't score, nothing new there. Shels keeper was MOTM according to the press.

fosterdollar
28/06/2005, 9:09 AM
Well whatever about last Firday, the football played last night in Tolka was excellent. Very dissapointed to lose the game, but a hugely entertaining game. We had 6 good chances to score and between good keeping and poor finishing we didn't score, nothing new there. Shels keeper was MOTM according to the press.
Hmm... a point in the Cross and none in Tolka. Spot the difference.

Macy
28/06/2005, 9:15 AM
Hmm... a point in the Cross and none in Tolka. Spot the difference.
be quiet - for the good of the league :rolleyes:

patsh
28/06/2005, 9:54 AM
Well whatever about last Firday, the football played last night in Tolka was excellent. Very dissapointed to lose the game, but a hugely entertaining game. We had 6 good chances to score and between good keeping and poor finishing we didn't score, nothing new there. Shels keeper was MOTM according to the press.
Why can't they play this way at the Cross?????:confused:

Ronnie
28/06/2005, 10:02 AM
Don't know Patsh - some would say its because we went down there and whacked the ball aimlessly up the field. Some would say our defence played well but our forwards and midfielders couldn't hold the ball up. Others might say that the Cork defence and midfield outplayed our midfield and forwards. But..the frustrating thing is draw in Cork and according to your fans and Sonic, play negatively, play very well in Tolka and lose!

Xlex
28/06/2005, 10:44 AM
Ooops... we rolled over and handed Shels, my second favourite team three points... damn we open up and lost... must be ****ed off we listened to you guys!?!?

Peadar
28/06/2005, 10:51 AM
Why can't they play this way at the Cross?????:confused:


You wouldn't have taken any points if you had done.

patsh
28/06/2005, 10:54 AM
You wouldn't have taken any points if you had done.
I doubt that City would have lost the game......

Peadar
28/06/2005, 11:02 AM
I doubt that City would have lost the game......

Got mixed up between Xlex and your posts. :o
Thought he meant that they should have played football against us.

fosterdollar
28/06/2005, 11:03 AM
I doubt that City would have lost the game......
Is that supposed to support your grievance against us?

patsh
28/06/2005, 11:08 AM
Is that supposed to support your grievance against us?
I have no grievance against Longford.
It's a fact that you team plays sh*te "football", your manager's tactic consists of lumping the ball up to Keegan and it's dreadful boring crap to watch. Maybe you lot have become immune to it, but its rubbish which nobody else will want to watch again.

fosterdollar
28/06/2005, 11:20 AM
Sorry to ruin your day but entertaining the Cork supporters is not top of our list of priorities. As you implied yourself, had we gone at Cork we were only likely to earn a draw at most (more likely to lose). FFS, in all honesty what do you expect from us? The so-called poor standard of (attacking) football was down to the fact that we, a mid-table team (who have been consistently so for a number of seasons), were playing away from home to you, league leaders (who have been consistently title contenders for a number of seasons). That's football mate. You have to apply damage limitation at times even if it means swallowing your pride for a few matches in the season. We do play football when it makes sense to do so. Fair enough sometimes it doesn't click. We're not Brazil. There are limits to our team's ability, but my opinion is that we generally make a decent go of it and very often punch quite a bit above our own weight.

patsh
28/06/2005, 11:26 AM
Sorry to ruin your day but entertaining the Cork supporters is not top of our list of priorities. As you implied yourself, had we gone at Cork we were only likely to earn a draw at most (more likely to lose). FFS, in all honesty what do you expect from us? The so-called poor standard of (attacking) football was down to the fact that we, a mid-table team (who have been consistently so for a number of seasons), were playing away from home to you, league leaders (who have been consistently title contenders for a number of seasons). That's football mate. You have to apply damage limitation at times even if it means swallowing your pride for a few matches in the season. We do play football when it makes sense to do so. Fair enough sometimes it doesn't click. We're not Brazil. There are limits to our team's ability, but my opinion is that we generally make a decent go of it and very often punch quite a bit above our own weight.
Which entirely proves my point.
Longford under Matthews have no ambition, no belief and are satisifed with mid-table mediocrity. And he has convinced most of the Longford support that that is the best they can hope for.
:rolleyes:

Ronnie
28/06/2005, 11:35 AM
"It's a fact that you team plays sh*te "football", your manager's tactic consists of lumping the ball up to Keegan and it's dreadful boring crap to watch. Maybe you lot have become immune to it, but its rubbish which nobody else will want to watch again."

Patsh,

I posted on this thread this morning after we lost a highly entertianing game against Shels - I then gave you some possibilities as to why we may have played poorly in Cork. And then you post the above! So your claiming that in addition to the Cork game, last nights match was crap, our game against Derry was crap, our 3-0 win in Waterford was crap our 1-0 win against Pats was crap. (thats our last 5 league games). Either your a secret Longford fan who sees a lot of our matches or talking rubbish based on one game!
If we play in a crap match we know it - for example UCD at home - but to say we play like that all the time is just plain stupid.