Waterford Complaint

[SPXcyan]

Don't even go there!

[EalingGreen]

Unfortunately fans wouldn’t be in a position to step in and takeover without a financial backer
Even if organised and with a financial backer, I think it safe to say Power would be a very hard man to deal with.

[sulywaterfordfc]

Even if organised and with a financial backer, I think it safe to say Power would be a very hard man to deal with.

By all accounts Powers difficulty to deal with has led to a takeover falling through in the past

[DCSIL]

Waterford have announced Sheedy and Newell have left.

[sulywaterfordfc]

Waterford have announced Sheedy and Newell have left.

Needed to happen. The inclusion of Brian Murphy on the training pitch and in the dressing room will be a far bigger difference then those two staying on. Wouldn’t anticipate Brian going straight back into the starting team but to have his experience around the group again will be a big boost.

[Nesta99]

Closes one quick goalkeeper fix for Dundalk in the summer.

[nr637]

I presume Waterford will appoint a proper LOI manager now!

[sulywaterfordfc]

I presume Waterford will appoint a proper LOI manager now!

What is a proper LOI manager? Half the league managers I’m sure are in their first LOI managerial role.

[sadloserkid]

I followed Limerick for long enough to know that when the chairman is a rotten piece of waste the manager is ultimately wasting his time. I wouldn't be commisioning a statue of Sheedy and Newell but I can understand why they wanted to get out of the cesspit too.

[Martinho II]

I presume Waterford will appoint a proper LOI manager now!

Wonder will AR come back to manage Waterford again? He probably wont leave Shels now I imagine.

[sulywaterfordfc]

I followed Limerick for long enough to know that when the chairman is a rotten piece of waste the manager is ultimately wasting his time. I wouldn't be commisioning a statue of Sheedy and Newell but I can understand why they wanted to get out of the cesspit too.

The club can operate with Power. The club quite clearly cannot operate with Dunphy running things locally. Get Dunphy out and the club has some club

[Martinho II]

The club can operate with Power. The club quite clearly cannot operate with Dunphy running things locally. Get Dunphy out and the club has some club

Whos this Dunphy bloke never heard of him before?

[trevy]

Martin Dunphy. I don't know him at all but going by social media people don't have much time for him. He somehow ended up in a position of power at the club after Lee Power's son Jack headed back to the UK.Jack had been general manager. A local journalist and a club volunteer were banned from the RSC for comments on social media so have been issues building over the last year.
I couldn't see Alan Reynolds coming back under Lee Power especially with the mess at the club now.

[Dalymountrower]

Martin Dunphy. I don't know him at all but going by social media people don't have much time for him. He somehow ended up in a position of power at the club after Lee Power's son Jack headed back to the UK.Jack had been general manager. A local journalist and a club volunteer were banned from the RSC for comments on social media so have been issues building over the last year.
I couldn't see Alan Reynolds coming back under Lee Power especially with the mess at the club now.
Well 60 k was bet on that match tonight., for comparative purposes 500 euro was bet on the Bohs match.
Waterford stinks to high heaven, sorry for the fans and all but....

[sbgawa]

wow i was 10% of the book in Dalymount :) big hitter

[Dalymountrower]

Hope you didn't need that 50?

[DCSIL]

Didn’t see the odds as been busy all day but hopefully anyone who backed Bohs cashed in.

[Longfordian]

Well 60 k was bet on that match tonight., for comparative purposes 500 euro was bet on the Bohs match.
Waterford stinks to high heaven, sorry for the fans and all but....

How much was put on after the news got out?

[Dalymountrower]

How much was put on after the news got out?

No idea,Cant really understand why betting was not suspended on the game.

[Longfordian]

No idea,Cant really understand why betting was not suspended on the game.

It seems the word was out locally well before the club statement so it's entirely possible that people piled on but yeah you'd wonder why the bookies didn't call a halt.

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

The 60k is what was matched on Betfair exchange I would imagine as that is generally only place where people can see amount placed. Most Bookies did stop taking bets on the game.

[sbgawa]

Hope you didn't need that 50?
100/30 looked a good price on Harps at the time ;)

2 nil flattered us up in Ballybofey last Friday.

[Dalymountrower]

100/30 looked a good price on Harps at the time ;)

2 nil flattered us up in Ballybofey last Friday.
Harps seemed to struggle with the bigger pitch, gaps everywhere in their defence, Bohs didn't play particularly well other than finishing 4/8 good chances

[nigel-harps1954]

Harps seemed to struggle with the bigger pitch, gaps everywhere in their defence, Bohs didn't play particularly well other than finishing 4/8 good chances

The change in formation screwed us. For some reason we reverted to 5-3-2, and we were all over the place. Probably one of the worst 45 minutes I've seen under Horgan.

[Dalymountrower]

The change in formation screwed us. For some reason we reverted to 5-3-2, and we were all over the place. Probably one of the worst 45 minutes I've seen under Horgan.

Your two full backs got hammered in the first half, tucked in rather than stayed wide for some reason.There also looked to be a focus on closing down Devoy, worked quite well with two players on him when he got posession, and he got turned over a couple of times.Meant though that Coote and Buckley had acres of space and they Burt, Tierney and Feely did the damage..

[EalingGreen]

Hope this isn't repeating stuff that is already being covered on another thread, but there is some serious stuff going on at Swindon Town just now eg:

Relegation to the 4th tier confirmed on Saturday;
Owner Lee Power embroiled in all sorts of legal conflict with his former Boardroom allies over his proposed sale of Swindon;
The club being effectively insolvent, which could attract severe penalties from the FA/EFL etc.
More here: https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/19244300.swindon-town-ownership-wrangle-back-high-court/?ref=ar

Goodness knows what any implications might be for Waterford, but they surely cannot be positi
Swindon are going for the Quadruple:

"Swindon Town FC, its Owner and Chairman, Lee Power, First Touch Pro Management and its Company Director, Michael Standing, have been charged in relation to breaches of The FA’s Regulations on Working with Intermediaries [i.e. Agents].
It is alleged that Swindon Town FC, Lee Power, First Touch Pro Management and Michael Standing breached Intermediary Regulations in relation to the ownership and/or funding of Swindon Town FC."

https://www.thefa.com/news/2021/apr/07/intermediary-regulations-breaches-070421

Considering Power was an Agent himself and Standing still is(?), you'd think they knew the rules by now.

Meanwhile, though it's dragging this further away from Waterford, it's interesting to see that Gareth Barry, a client of Standing, is embroiled in this mess:
https://insidexpress.com/sports-athletics/gareth-barry-could-still-be-hit-with-an-fa-rap-over-a-secret-deal-to-buy-a-stake-in-league-one-side-swindon/

[Bucket]

Former QPR player and coach Marc Bircham is the new manager.

[Martinho II]

Former QPR player and coach Marc Bircham is the new manager.

I thought there was talk of Waterford being wound up!

[Bucket]

His involvement with Swindon coming to an end might be good news for Waterford

[Jack B]

Waterford gonna Waterford.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-8351137/amp/Former-QPR-captain-Marc-Bircham-arrested-suspicion-aggravated-battery-Florida.html

[Dalymountrower]

Waterford gonna Waterford.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-8351137/amp/Former-QPR-captain-Marc-Bircham-arrested-suspicion-aggravated-battery-Florida.html
Still wont be tough enough for Ballybofey.

[sulywaterfordfc]

Still wont be tough enough for Ballybofey.


Waterford gonna Waterford.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-8351137/amp/Former-QPR-captain-Marc-Bircham-arrested-suspicion-aggravated-battery-Florida.html

A highly reputable LOI journalist spoke about this last night. The case was thrown out of court and the charges were dropped. Can’t say I know much about him, should be an interesting appointment nonetheless, can’t be much worse then where we were at with the other two.

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

Will he make it to the summer break?

[Martinho II]

Dan McDonnell was saying on off the ball last night that Bircham was famous at QPR for dying his hair blue. Heard of him as a player. He could have declared for the ROI but was a ex Canada international.

[Nesta99]

Dan McDonnell was saying on off the ball last night that Bircham was famous at QPR for dying his hair blue. Heard of him as a player. He could have declared for the ROI but was a ex Canada international.

Mouthy and nasty player at times, and I liked going to see QPR. Seems the Power kind, maybe he has mellowed.

[nigel-harps1954]

Lee Power confirmed he has sold the club. No further details given.
Waterford set to launch a complaint.

[2 Year Contract]

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/soccer/arid-40305992.html

As always with new LOI investors, without any details on them, it’s hard to know if these new guys will be good for the club or run it to the ground but it looked like Lee Power was well on the way to doing that anyways.

Hopefully for the fans these new guys can run the club professionally after the last few years of chaos

[NFF-Fotball]

Just done a bit of research on UK Companies House.

Only one result I could find for Richard Forrest and R&S Holdings Ltd (which is actually listed as R&S Forrest Holdings Ltd of Chelmsford, Essex)

If it’s the same people - the other companies they own are two day nurseries and a Montessori School.

Something doesn’t feel right with these lot to be honest…

[Jack B]

Seen it reported already that they may be signing the new owners son.

Good to hear there won't be much changing so.

[sulywaterfordfc]

Seen it reported already that they may be signing the new owners son.

Good to hear there won't be much changing so.

In fairness that wouldn’t bother me too much because the squad is utter wa*k. I wouldn’t read too much into it either.

For all the bad that went on under Power, he did save the club and leave it in a better place that what it was when he took it on. I’ll give him credit for that but by god did some bizarre **** go on over the 4.5 years. Things started to go downhill when we were refused entry to the europa league. But the club has been pure toxic for the past 18/24 months because a particular individual calling the shots behind the scenes. That man in question has been retained and that concerns me but Forrest has brought in a business associate of his, as new club chairman. Forrest sounds like he’ll be a lot more involved then Power had been so hopefully that minimises the level of power and control Rub has. Serious work needs doing on and off the pitch. Since Rub essentially took over the running of the club from Fenlon the clubs professionalism dropped immensely. It’d be great to see us operate like a half functioning football club again.

Gives us a fighting chance for the rest of the season, the new manager has been a breath of fresh air since he has come into the club. There already seems to be a good level of rapport between owner and manager, it’s welcoming to hear that the owner has sat down and had a proper discussion with the manager and made a plan going forward with regards trying to stay up. That’s been missed hugely in recently years. Rub rightly ****ed us over this year if rumours are believed to be true.

[DCWA]

A power cut in Waterford

[Martinho II]

Is that LPs spell as football owner gone for good now? It reminds me of when he was a player once promising but lost his way somewhat!

[sulywaterfordfc]

Is that LPs spell as football owner gone for good now? It reminds me of when he was a player once promising but lost his way somewhat!

He is still the majority shareholder of Swindon. Think has 85% which could drop to 35% pending the ongoing court case in the UK, the minority shareholder has been trying to buy the club for some time now but Powers been adamant to flog Swindon to some unknown ‘US’ group but the courts have blocked it.

That club is a bit all over the place, doesn’t help that there fans are quite deluded. They seem to think Swindon are a bigger club then they are because they’d a season in the top flight 30 years ago.

[D24Saint]

Is Waterford’s troubles over. They are a good stable club for the league , they have a good size latent fanbase.

[DCSIL]

That club is a bit all over the place, doesn’t help that there fans are quite deluded. They seem to think Swindon are a bigger club then they are because they’d a season in the top flight 30 years ago.

Swindon have been a bit of a basket case club over the last 30 years. They’re about between the Second and Third Tiers in England normally if they were Stable, but they’re not.

No different to most English lower division clubs to be honest, they’re one big bill away from a crisis.

[sulywaterfordfc]

Swindon have been a bit of a basket case club over the last 30 years. They’re about between the Second and Third Tiers in England normally if they were Stable, but they’re not.

No different to most English lower division clubs to be honest, they’re one big bill away from a crisis.

The premiership has really affected the mindset on English fans imo. From reading the Swindon group over the years, they’re biggest issue every year was the lack of investment despite the fact the club hadn’t a lot to **** in. I recall at one point Swindon were losing 28k a week or month (can’t remember exactly which one) but they’re fans were still bemoaning at the lack of big money signings.

There’s a lot of clubs in the football league are only a big bill away from becoming the next Bury.

[sulywaterfordfc]

Is Waterford’s troubles over. They are a good stable club for the league , they have a good size latent fanbase.

Can’t really say our troubles are over yet because we’ve a we’re poor and inexperienced squad and are rooted to the bottom of the table. But it gives us the chance to rebuild and more then anything it gives us hope. There’s a lot of positivity around for the first time in many months. It already appears and feels as though the new manager has done more in the last three weeks then the previous crowd did in six months. The new manager appointed the manager more or less too, I feel that’s a big indictator we’ll see a lot of movement over the next six weeks on the players front especially with how the managers been talking.

[pateen]

What exactly has he done in the last 3 weeks Suly? Genuine question

[sulywaterfordfc]

What exactly has he done in the last 3 weeks Suly? Genuine question

By all accounts the previous management done very little work on the training ground. So Marc has had it tough in that regard, he’s been putting the players through double sessions getting the players fit and he’s been putting focus on tactical training - apparently next to no tactical training was done under Newell/Sheedy. He has identified weakest in the squad, pin pointed areas he needs to strengthen. Highlighted publicly how many players needed in the window. The best thing for me is, he seems open, honest and transparent. He’s brought in a level of positivity again, which has created a little buzz. It’s got people a bit excited again. As opposed to the doom and gloom atmosphere for the past 12 months. There’s even smaller things such as going down to the academy for training with the kids.

Random but I read somewhere that he took over as temporary coach of first team when Jim Magilton was suspended as manager which led to him leaving QPR.

[Nesta99]

Random but I read somewhere that he took over as temporary coach of first team when Jim Magilton was suspended as manager which led to him leaving.

Well that could be add to the list of rankle betwwn Dundalk and Waterford, should invite Jeff McNamara back as a guest next game too!