team for wed

[ColinR]

assuming carr and keane to come straight back in, no robbie or finnan, what do we go for??

given

carr
harte
cunningham
o'shea

duff
roy
kilbane
reid

morrisson
elliot

unfortunatly i'd like to drop o'shea, but with no o'brien and dunne and breen out, i'd put him in along side cunningham, but i would be worried about that back four, even against a team like the faroes.

could be another long night on wednesday :(

[De Town]

Given
Carr, Cunningham, (Anyone but O'Shea), Harte
Reid, Kilbane, Keane, Duff
Morrison, Elliot

[tonycuna]

Given
Carr, Cunningham, ..., Harte
Reid, Kilbane, Keano, Duff
Morrison, Elliott/Doherty

At that ..., I would see Breen, but I don't know how is it his phys problem :confused:
So with no other chance, it'll be O'S again :o

A thing is for sure: I want Ian Harte back in the squad, not always in the XI, but I want him always in the 22-men squad for every match in the future.. He showed great desire and passion on sat, and he deserve a place in my opinion. (on wed in the firstXI) ;)

[Littlest Hobo]

This team should pick its self. The squad is 21 and most of those are along for the trip. This is the best we have available, anymore injuries and its gonna be a rough ride to victory :(

Given

Carr Cunningham O'Shea Harte

Reid Keane Kilbane Duff

Morisson Doherty

Subs: Holland, Kavanagh, Elliott,

Reckon Kerr will give these three a run out at some stage.
Big DOC up fron will cause em problems, he's no Robinho, put I can see him nick one.

[Stuttgart88]

I'd drop O'Shea altogether & play Holland at CB.

I'd "risk" Elliott upfront. Is Connolly in the squad at all?

[eirebhoy]

Paddy McCarthy has more experience at centre half and more confidence than O'Shea. No chance of him been called up?

[De Town]

What about Stephen Paisley???

EDIT: Just remembered, he got injured yesterday playing for LTFC.

[Colm55]

given

carr
harte
cunningham
o'shea

duff
roy
kilbane
reid

morrisson
elliot

:(

I'd choose the same starting line up here, but then again I don't think it matters who we pick, this is the Faroe Islands we are playing .......

Give Elliot a bash and let him score his first few competitive goals, if he can hammer them in against first division opposition, he'll have a field day against these lads...

[Soper]

Paddy McCarthy has more experience at centre half and more confidence than O'Shea. No chance of him been called up?
McCarthys been called up now I believe.

[Poor Student]

I'd choose the same starting line up here, but then again I don't think it matters who we pick, this is the Faroe Islands we are playing .......

Give Elliot a bash and let him score his first few competitive goals, if he can hammer them in against first division opposition, he'll have a field day against these lads...

Don't be so arrogant. They have the potential to hold us to a draw.

[Littlest Hobo]

I'd choose the same starting line up here, but then again I don't think it matters who we pick, this is the Faroe Islands we are playing .......

Give Elliot a bash and let him score his first few competitive goals, if he can hammer them in against first division opposition, he'll have a field day against these lads...

Its a big step up from the first division.....even against Pat the Baker, Postman Pat and his faroe mates. I really hope elliott proves me wrong, but I can't see him producing the goodies for us.
We need a hatfull to close the gap on the Swiss with goal difference, but I can't honestly see it happen. Reckon a 2-0 score is the best we should hope for.

[Colm55]

Don't be so arrogant. They have the potential to hold us to a draw.

For the love of god, please tell me you having a laugh, all of our players play top flight football, these boys can play football, but not on the same level as any of our lads, they are an inferior team, they lose all their games home and away, unless they play the Galapos Islands or someone like that, i have every right to be arrogant, i said three nil minimum, i ain't backing down.

[Soper]

Arrogance breeds success.

If we had been more arrogant on saturday, we would have won.Simple.

[drinkfeckarse]

There are no easy games anymore but at the end of the day we should be looking to put at least 3 goals past them to get the goal difference up.

FFS Mr Kerr, redeem yourself and let the team attack for 90 minutes...

[zinedineontour]

the players who we are playing against are in general not good enough for the championship and most would prob struggle to get into a shels side ..elliott is well capable to play and score against this lot just thought israel might have been to big a step ..

[Donal81]

Don't be so arrogant. They have the potential to hold us to a draw.

Good Lord...

[jimbob117]

Don't be so arrogant. They have the potential to hold us to a draw.

What your basis for this comment??

[supasparx]

Given

Carr Keane Cunningham Harte

S Reid Kavanagh Killbane Duff

Morrison Elliot


Subs- A reid, Doherty, O'Shea, Holland

[supasparx]

Messed up didn't I? S Reid injured?

[Stuttgart88]

Messed up didn't I? S Reid injured?

I don't think so.

[geysir]

Originally Posted by Poor Student
Don't be so arrogant. They have the potential to hold us to a draw.

What your basis for this comment??


Might I but in here and suggest a few things.

The Faroes have rarely been trounced silly by opposing sides no matter what the quality. Do we have the special ingredients to win 3-0.
I certainly hope we will.
They had some very decent performances home and away both against Scotland and Germany in the last campaign.
Their repeated decent performances belie their Thor the fisherman tag and their small population.
They are fiercly proud and tough people, the team is a sum of the parts, and a good manager.

Surely it could not have escaped your attention how Ireland have struggled to beat such teams over the years.
Aside from that it is a great place to visit but expensive, the traveling support should have a great time especially those who enjoy fantastic nature, fjords etc.

[Slash/ED]

Its a big step up from the first division.

No it's not. Just because it's international football doesn't make it a step up, the Faroes would have a weaker defence than the average first division side and even some U21 sides he's played against.

[jimbob117]

[QUOTE=geysir]

Surely it could not have escaped your attention how Ireland have struggled to beat such teams over the years.
[QUOTE]

It hasnt escaped my attention. but the faroes are worse than latvia, lithuania and other eastern european sides we've beaten. and it wont be as intimidating either.. did ya see the stadium against switzerland.. at least half empty tbh

[onenilgameover]

Elliot has to come in as a straight swap for Keane.....He can't make anymore glaring mistakes so soon after saturday. Love to drop O'Shea but its seems Mr Kerr is without balls so I can't see that happening...

[Poor Student]

Might I but in here and suggest a few things.

The Faroes have rarely been trounced silly by opposing sides no matter what the quality. Do we have the special ingredients to win 3-0.
I certainly hope we will.
They had some very decent performances home and away both against Scotland and Germany in the last campaign.
Their repeated decent performances belie their Thor the fisherman tag and their small population.
They are fiercly proud and tough people, the team is a sum of the parts, and a good manager.

Surely it could not have escaped your attention how Ireland have struggled to beat such teams over the years.
Aside from that it is a great place to visit but expensive, the traveling support should have a great time especially those who enjoy fantastic nature, fjords etc.

Yes, thank you. The Faroes for those who keep an eye on international football in other groups have had a history of being niggly, strong, well organised and difficult to play against over the years. Plus their pitch is a bog patch. They've broken the hearts of the Scots and Slovenians by dragging them to draws. In our current campaign we are not putting teams away. I said they have the potential. They came close to holding Switzerland the other day. I think we will beat them. We definately will not beat them by more than 3, and more likely 1 or 2 nil but there is a chance they could hold us and not a ridiculous one at that.

[pete]

The team will be:

Given
Carr, Cunningham, O'Shea, Harte
Reid, Keane, Holland, Kilbane
Morrison, Duff

Kerr will not play Elliot as he hasn't impressed much in brief appearances for Ireland so far.

Team should be:

Given
Carr, Cunningham, Keane, Harte
Reid, O'Callaghan, Kilbane, Duff
Morrison, Doyle

;)

[FarBeag]

Its a shame that we have to depend on someone like O'Shea to slot into one of the most important positions in the team irrespective of what club he plays for.The man is total pants and at this stage i would put him into the Phil Babb category of ****e defenders to play for us.Thank God it's only the Farros and not the Swiss or the French we are playing.

[brine3]

----------Given
Carr - Cunningham - O'Shea
A Reid - S Reid - Roy - Duff
-----------Kav------------
-----Clinton - Elliott-------

[Irish Pride]

Like most people i would like to see O'Shea dropped but with the injuries i think we have to play him. The only faith i have in him will be that he will play along side Cunningham who is a great leader at the back.

There shouldnt be a "risk" with Elliot. He scored 17 goals and has done well when played out of position for Ireland. Lets hope Ireland dont get an early goal and for Kerr to shut up shop.

My team:

----Given---
--Carr--Cunningham--o'shea--Harte
--Reid(A)--Keane--Kilbane--Duff
0----Morrison---Elliot

[Closed Account 2]

I'd go:-

-------------Given
Carr - Roy Keane - Cunningham - Harte
---A Reid - S Reid - Kav - Duff
-------Clinton----------
--------------Doc

Center back is a problem, but I'd use Roy's experience and play him there and hope the Faroese strikers arent too pacey. If, on watching a tape of the Swiss-Faroese game, BK sees them as being pacey, he should drop S Reid to the bench, move Roy back to midfield and play the lad Paddy McCarthy in defense. On the other hand I'd expect the Reids and Duffer (as long as BK doesnt waste him upfront) to cause the Faroese problems, I can see us winning free kicks and Hartey scoring from them. I'd play Doc upfront to try and take advantage of Andy R's and Duffer's crosses. The Doc has a good scoring record for us against small teams and I think Wednesday night will see him prevail again. This team would give us attacking options, and hopefully allow us to beat the Faroese and rack up our first away win in some time.

[onenilgameover]

I have a feeling McCarthy might play to be honest....

[Fergie's Son]

Sadly, I think Kerr will stick with Duff upfront and the woeful Kilbane as a left-winger (Kilbane should either play in the centre of not at all).

It'll be a mistake but that is what I think he will do. Team for Wednesday:

Given

Carr O'Shea Cunningham Harte

Holland Keane Kavanagh Kilbane

Duff Morrisson

It'll be that negative.

[onenilgameover]

Playing the Doc is an embarassment to Football in ireland...The guy can't even play keepy uppy...Its just wrong...I cringe evry time I see him in an Ireland Jersey...stop the hurt.... :eek: Not saying that he can't get goals and disrupt things its just that its really not they way it should be.... :eek:

[geysir]

I don't know about yer reaction to the return of Harte to the squad, It has astounded me. He scores a brilliant goal in no time and gets MOM award (questionable) and now is included in almost everybody's first 11 for Wed without question. Its like the prodigal son has returned after what seems a lifetime in exile and in exchange we have a memory wipe out and carry on as normal.
I certainly hope he has rediscovered his form of old and nails down his place.
Or will he be ditched as soon as both Carr and Finnan are available?

[FarBeag]

onenilgameover Playing the Doc is an embarassment to Football in ireland...The guy can't even play keepy uppy...Its just wrong...I cringe evry time I see him in an Ireland Jersey...stop the hurt.... Not saying that he can't get goals and disrupt things its just that its really not they way it should be....

I know he is shi*e but it appears its him or O'Shea.They would'nt make a decent defender between them but i know its sad to have to admit the Doc just shades it for me.Personally i would throw Macarthy in there.

[boysingreen]

Advice to Kerr:

1.) Don't select Holland
2.) Don't play Duff up front

Best team available, imo:

Given
Carr Cunningham O'Shea Harte
A. Reid Keane Kilbane Duff
Morrison Doherty

[tricky_colour]

Carr Cunningham Doherty Harte
Reid Keane Kilbane Duff
Elliot Morrison

Doherty would be useful up front in a game we expect(?) to win

[drinkfeckarse]

Carr Cunningham Doherty Harte
Reid Keane Kilbane Duff
Elliot Morrison

Doherty would be useful up front in a game we expect(?) to win

That looks decent but I'd swop the Doc for O' Shea.

[Stuttgart88]

Given
Carr - Cunningham - Doherty or Holland - Harte
Reid - Keane - Kilbane - Duff
Elliott - Morrisson

I'd consider playing Holland RHM and Reid upfront with Morrisson.

O'Shea doesn't deserve to be an automatic starter. I hope he gets his career back on track as he's going backwards at this stage.

[thejollyrodger]

Im going to go for 4-3-3

-------------Given
Carr----Cunningham--O'Shea--Harte
Holland-------Keane---------Kilbane
Reid---------Morrison----------Duff

Either start Morrison or Elliott. If the worst came to the worst put doc up front.

4-4-2 isnt going to bring us much joy in such a narrow pitch so Im opting for the 4-3-3.

It's going to be very hard to get the 3 points, the faries will battle hard the full 90 minutes and no doubt bring us down to their squirmy level.

[Stuttgart88]

I like the 4-3-3 in principle but it really requires a very reliable goalscorer in the middle which we don't have.

Notice how MUFC have had a poor goal tally this year and how Portugal used to dominate games but suffered because Gomes and Pauleta (?) were very average in front of goal.

It worked for Chelsea because when required they also got their fair share of goals from set pieces and from midfield, mainly Lampard.

I'd be inclined to stick with an attacking 4-4-2.

By the way, I thought our set pieces were much better on Saturday.

[carnstien]

Given

Carr
O'Shea
Cunningham
Harte

Andy Reid (on the right)
Kav
King Roy
Duff

Elliot
Morrison


Kav has to play ahead of Kilbane or Holland. In fairness Kilbane and Holand is probably the worst Central midfield partnership we have ever had.

My preference would be Andy Reid and Roy in the middle but seeing as there would be nobody to play on the right then, it has to be Kav.

And Duff has to play on the left. He might as well have not been on the pitch against the Swiss when played out of position. Reid is a more versitile player which is why he should switch him to the right.

[stojkovic]

I wouldnt even bring O'Shea to Torshavn, injuries or not. Someone said he reminds them of Babb. I agree. Is it just because he plays for ManUre (sometimes) or what. Docherty would be a better option at centre half. Hes slow but he will get stuck in. Oshea was like bambi in his tackling on Saturday. I can forgive the fcuker for his distribution (as hes a defender) but his defending was absolutely woeful. Agree that Docherty, Cunningham and Harte all lack pace but fcuk it win 5-2 with all out attack.

Given
Carr-Cunnigham-Doherty-Harte
Duff-Keane-Kilbane-Reid
Morrison-ELLIOT

Subs- Reid, Kavanagh, Holland, Lee, McCarthy, Kenny

Puffin Watching - O'Shea

[FarBeag]

stojkovic I wouldnt even bring O'Shea to Torshavn, injuries or not. Someone said he reminds them of Babb. I agree. Is it just because he plays for ManUre (sometimes) or what. Docherty would be a better option at centre half. Hes slow but he will get stuck in. Oshea was like bambi in his tackling on Saturday. I can forgive the fcuker for his distribution (as hes a defender) but his defending was absolutely woeful. Agree that Docherty, Cunningham and Harte all lack pace but fcuk it win 5-2 with all out attack. .


That's the team i would play and agree with your assessment on the O'Shea V The Doc.

[tetsujin1979]

By the way, I thought our set pieces were much better
on Saturday.

Ditto, thought that had a lot to do with Kavanagh, his corners were perfect, far post every single time. Duff seemed to have difficulty beating the first man with his. Harte took his goal well, but didn't do much else right with set pieces.

If we're to use these against the Faroes, it'll have to be Doc to start, his height will cause confusion and panic in the opposition and he'll be able to lay the ball off well to any onrunning striker/midfielder.

[Stuttgart88]

Cue unrelenting ridicule and a possible ban from the forum altogether:

Is Connolly in the squad, or is it just Clinton, Doc, Elliott & Lee?

On a light note, I was watching Lee & Liam Miller kicking the ball to each other at about 7.15 on Saturday. They were 30 feet from each other. Lee shanked a simple rolled pass to Miller and missed him by about 20 yards. Reminded me of my playing days.

[JimmyP]

No, he wasn't called up.
Not one for conspiracy theories, but from memory, the last time he was in a squad (friendly at lansdowne last year, bulgaria I think, but not 100%), he was on the bench, warmed up with everyone else before the match, but didn't emerge for the half-time warm-up and wasn't seen again. Hasn't been called up since, I believe. And had a more successful season than Lee, it might be said.

[Condex]

I was takinging to some idiot Ireland supporter on the ferry to the Shetland, who stated that :

1) Kerr did nothing wrong, he had no option to bring on Kavanagh for Keane
2) O'Shea did not commit a foul for the penalty
3) Our draw on Saturday was down to just bad luck

Does anyone agree ?

[stojkovic]

I was takinging to some idiot Ireland supporter on the ferry to the Shetland, who stated that :

1) Kerr did nothing wrong, he had no option to bring on Kavanagh for Keane
2) O'Shea did not commit a foul for the penalty
3) Our draw on Saturday was down to just bad luck

Does anyone agree ?
1) dont agree
2) dont care - oshea's a stocking
3) dont agree

[Littlest Hobo]

Changing me mind on the team. Reckon kerr will play the following:

Given

Carr Cunningham Keane Harte

A.Reid Kilbane Kavanagh Duff

Morrison Doherty

Subs: Elliott, Holland,Kenny

While John O'Shea is off fishing for trout, I would have Roy fill in the hole at the back.
Kavanagh to partner Kilbane, coz he played well for the 60 odd minutes he was on for.
I can see Doherty being a handfull for their back four.
Clint is due another calssic.
:ball: :D