Tonight’s games 08/08

[placid casual]

Patience is a virtue, it seems.
Derry played well and didn't deserve to lose, but Rovers were always gonna struggle on the manky surface. It looked like one of those tacky cheap des kelly carpets. Anyway we have the leagues best keeper and the leagues best defender in Pico. Onto next week and another tough game on the narrow inchicore pitch. Hopefully pats adopt the same tactics as used against dundalk as Rovers will find it easier to get at the pats back 4.

[2 Year Contract]

Hopefully pats adopt the same tactics as used against dundalk as Rovers will find it easier to get at the pats back 4.

Interesting take on tactics given the fact that Pats didn’t play with a back 4 in Dundalk or in either of the two games after it.

[EatYerGreens]

I know VPNs can be used but its ridiculous that this evenings game in Derry is restricted for RoI viewers. Its the same damn league as all other games available so border bedamned!! (When it suits...)

Wasn't it restricted on the island as a whole, not just ROI ?

[placid casual]

Interesting take on tactics given the fact that Pats didn’t play with a back 4 in Dundalk or in either of the two games after it.
I'm old, so I automatically call all defences back 4's. Whatever, if pats like they did against dundalk I'd be hopeful of another Rovers victory.

[sbgawa]

Narrow pitch doesn't suit our game , or the width we have with our wingbacks.
3 Dublin derbies in a row now, pats , shels, bohs....
Important stretch

[WeAreRovers]

I know VPNs can be used but its ridiculous that this evenings game in Derry is restricted for RoI viewers. Its the same damn league as all other games available so border bedamned!! (When it suits...)

Eir Sport have the exclusive live rights to the games they show and chose to excercise them tonight by not allowing WatchLOI to stream the game in Ireland.

Perfectly entitled to do it even if it’s frustrating for viewers without Eir.

[Nesta99]

Eir Sport have the exclusive live rights to the games they show and chose to excercise them tonight by not allowing WatchLOI to stream the game in Ireland.

Perfectly entitled to do it even if it’s frustrating for viewers without Eir.

Makes sense now. Didnt realise the game was on Eir

[Calcio Jack]

Group of approx dozen Pats fans standing outside FinnPark watching tonight’s match ... no effort at social distancing , what a shower of anti social idiots, local Gardai should make them disperse immediately.... unless they are all from the same household

[DCSIL]

Pats fans and sensible away trips don't always go in the same sentence.

Just like watching it on the stream - couple of lads kicking a ball around without any sound

[DCSIL]

Thought i saw Ollie smile there for a minute, didn't last long as he went over for a "discussion" with the officials.

Good result for Harps - now if they avoid Shamrock Rovers in the next round might have a chance of a cup run.

[desaintsno.12]

Any clubs out there need a video analyst ? comes with previous playing experience and league medals.

[Finlay Harp]

Wonders will never cease!

[sbgawa]

This is the wrong year to get knocked out of the cup early. The format is win one match (with the unlucky exception of the 6 teams drawn in the prelim round) and you are into a mini tournament after the league season is over. No matter how your season is going you still have it to look forward to.

[joey B]

We were better tonight and looked more solid,Pats were gash though and O'Donnell looked a frustrated figure for much of it.

[D24Saint]

We were better tonight and looked more solid,Pats were gash though and O'Donnell looked a frustrated figure for much of it.

He looks a very decent man but will have to answer for poor performances. No sour grapes to Harps , SOD could be accused of talking a good game at times.

[Nesta99]

We were better tonight and looked more solid,Pats were gash though and O'Donnell looked a frustrated figure for much of it.

Makes the first league game back v Dundalk an even poorer result for us! Though maybe he was getting the level of effort he wanted that night and didnt tonight. Not a whole lot wrong tacticaly overall if players were really putting a shift in. Has to be one of the most fustrating jobs, football management, when ye prepare well for a game, lose and manly because players havent really given the required effort. Good result for Harps though and a little luck in the draw and ye never know.

[desaintsno.12]

Makes the first league game back v Dundalk an even poorer result for us! Though maybe he was getting the level of effort he wanted that night and didnt tonight. Not a whole lot wrong tacticaly overall if players were really putting a shift in. Has to be one of the most fustrating jobs, football management, when ye prepare well for a game, lose and manly because players havent really given the required effort. Good result for Harps though and a little luck in the draw and ye never know.

The bigger issue is it's clueless football again. It's harry Kenny all over again except SOD managed to spend more money. The board have made another really expensive mistake. The money we have blown as a club with so little return is grim.

[outspoken]

The bigger issue is it's clueless football again. It's harry Kenny all over again except SOD managed to spend more money. The board have made another really expensive mistake. The money we have blown as a club with so little return is grim.

There was a slight improvement when Kelly & Benson cams on (Forrester was poor). Is it not just a case of the players that started are all fairly average. If he can get those 3 players firing and squeeze Pats into Europe he's done a great job

[Nesta99]

There is obviously going to be a fondness for SO'D from Dundalk fans, but he is only in the job 14 or 15 or so competative games including this mess of a season so far. Its a long haul to get players to adjust to new ideas especially if things were a bit on the easy side for lads under a previous manager. What I would have expected early enough was a team that gave a lot of effort and then improvement in the quality of football after. If there are players that are taking it handy they will be gone asap. Forrester may be one of the first (without konwing whats going on in his head of course) unless he gets his head back in the game and showing the form he is capable of consistantly. I doubt S'OD would vilify players for mistakes but he'd lose the plot for them coasting through games. If he is looking openly frustrated imo its more likely over the application by players than average players not cutting it but trying. It'd would take at least one and maybe 2 tranfer windows to get lads that will buy in to his ideas. Whether he has that long is another thing.

[desaintsno.12]

There is obviously going to be a fondness for SO'D from Dundalk fans, but he is only in the job 14 or 15 or so competative games including this mess of a season so far. Its a long haul to get players to adjust to new ideas especially if things were a bit on the easy side for lads under a previous manager. What I would have expected early enough was a team that gave a lot of effort and then improvement in the quality of football after. If there are players that are taking it handy they will be gone asap. Forrester may be one of the first (without konwing whats going on in his head of course) unless he gets his head back in the game and showing the form he is capable of consistantly. I doubt S'OD would vilify players for mistakes but he'd lose the plot for them coasting through games. If he is looking openly frustrated imo its more likely over the application by players than average players not cutting it but trying. It'd would take at least one and maybe 2 tranfer windows to get lads that will buy in to his ideas. Whether he has that long is another thing.

He paid a fee for martin Rennie . He shouldn't be allowed near a transfer window again.

[D24Saint]

There is obviously going to be a fondness for SO'D from Dundalk fans, but he is only in the job 14 or 15 or so competative games including this mess of a season so far. Its a long haul to get players to adjust to new ideas especially if things were a bit on the easy side for lads under a previous manager. What I would have expected early enough was a team that gave a lot of effort and then improvement in the quality of football after. If there are players that are taking it handy they will be gone asap. Forrester may be one of the first (without konwing whats going on in his head of course) unless he gets his head back in the game and showing the form he is capable of consistantly. I doubt S'OD would vilify players for mistakes but he'd lose the plot for them coasting through games. If he is looking openly frustrated imo its more likely over the application by players than average players not cutting it but trying. It'd would take at least one and maybe 2 tranfer windows to get lads that will buy in to his ideas. Whether he has that long is another thing.


The backing that he a given from the owner indicates to me that will get the time. The signing of Forrester has been a disaster for the club but not one that anybody could have predicted. Its tough to watch a player with such talent letting it go to waste. I know he has a personal issues that I don't think its fair to go into. The signing of Rennie just hasn't worked out so far, he scored goals in Scotland so on paper recruiting him made sense. He may need more time to adjust but hasn't looked up to the standard required so far.

[Nesta99]

Well if ye cant trust close up 'scouting' by the Assistant Manager then there is trouble on the way. The manager is responsible when it goes wrong but its didnt seem like a transder for the boys and buddies (well as much as Cregg coming in as assistant himself).

[placid casual]

I'd be shocked if SOD didn't become a really successful manager, he is a very committed football guy who knows what it takes to be successful. It takes time to overturn an ageing and purpose-light squad ( ask S Bradley), but he could start by clearing out the deadwood like bermingham, madden & forrester. It depends how long Benson will want to carry on, he's a fine player, and also if they can get kelly from dundalk. I think, if given time, SOD would have pats challenging for the league by 2022.

[Nesta99]

It comes across that a few Pats fans have expected immediate performances and be in the mix for Europe. I could see why expectations rose after Harry Kenny's appointment and the squad that was being assembled. On paper, as the old saying goes, it was promising (Harry Kenny to Rovers would be a super move still PC ;)). With that experience maybe there is a fear of the same happening again but as mentioned above i think it will be more considered and a longer rebuild. Its what, only 3 years since a possible relegation scare? I'd agree wit PC on his assessment of S'OD, while nobody knows for sure, he has the attributes that can give him a great shot at being a successful manager. I really hope to see him back at Oriel one day as manager as it was disappointing, though understandable, when he left for the Pats job. We dont just miss him as a player but as a very capable club captain and then backroom team member - Id have no doubts that his influence kept players driven.

[The Lilywhites]

A win is a win but that was a hard watch tonight against a weakened Waterford team.

Not confident at all for Friday after watching that. Something seriously wrong in our camp.

[DCSIL]

Someone score a goal in the Cork v Longford game, we could be here all week.

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

I wanted penalties

[Bucket]

Why a club employs four LOI managers is beyond me. Too many chefs spoil the soup. Having said that, I wish ye well in Europe.

[placid casual]

Dunno where to put this, so here'll do.
As a Rovers fan I still haven't forgiven Johnny Glynn for the cup final goal, but as a father I'm delighted that his daughter was rescued. I can't begin to imagine what him and his wife had to go through.

[Pablo Escobar]

Dunno where to put this, so here'll do.
As a Rovers fan I still haven't forgiven Johnny Glynn for the cup final goal, but as a father I'm delighted that his daughter was rescued. I can't begin to imagine what him and his wife had to go through.

It's an unimaginable situation for him to have been in, albeit with a great, but unlikely outcome. These stories end in tragedy the vast majority of the time.

Fair play to the girls though for digging in. That took some serious stamina and mental strength.

[Nesta99]

Its a remarkable story and one with an ending that has been a real lift for everyone in these times.

(now dont be a buzz kill this evening Dundalk FC!!).

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

Will Dundalk get sucked into the relegation battle?

[Nesta99]

1 point potentially from 3 games - yup! Its relegation form even if unlikely over the full 18. Just dont have the composure with the ball, very sloppy at times, dont cope at all with being pressed, no pace to passing, defensively frail, Gannon well out of form by his standards as an example. I havent figured out whether they are playing through Colovic a lot or whether he is the one that is stepping up.

With the quality of ball that Colovic can deliver, it would better suit a Georgie Kelly than McMillan.... On the up side, Murray so far has done more since the forced sub of Mountney. Cant really see what happened for the Murphy injury, strained the calf muscle maybe as it didnt look like any real clash with another player.

Well that fairly ringing the changes at half-time! VP annoyed with a lack of effort or a hint of desperation!?

[SPXcyan]

This would do now, 0-1 blues at half time.

[Martinho II]

Didnt know about Johnny Glynns daughter being rescued until I was listening to OTB AM and I heard Johnny being interviewed. Hopefully our country will lift itself from the gloom we are in at present.

[D24Saint]

Great comeback but shocking defending for that corner.

[sbgawa]

Wow....I'll take that....talk about an almost complete turnaround....hanging on at the end.

[The Lilywhites]

Some contrast between the first 75 and last 15. The red card certainly turned the game.

Not sure what to make of it really. Perth is hanging on to his job.

Champions League next week and we've Sligo & Derry away coming up. Huge improvement needed.

[Nesta99]

Was all very 'pre season' from Dundalk. Could have nicked the 3 points maybe should have but would have been unfair on Waterford. Slowed things down, broke up play and hung in. Dundalk only seemed to play at all v 10 but were still wasteful, sloppy passing, poor frees in good positions. The goal seemed to lift the tempo also. Have to stop shipping soft goals especially like the second Waterford one where a bad touch from Odwua had us srambling. Still think McMillan needs a batch of chances to net one. Cant see how the peno shout was offside but with the single camera angle hard to properly judge so would be disingenuous to call it stonewall. With respect to the cup, the season hangs on a perfromance next Wednesday now. Up to Bohs to chase Rovers or it will be a saunter to the title!

[Kingdom]

Thought Oduwa looked very capable when he came on, especially in the last 15. Himself and Colovic would be positives for Dundalk in the European games,
Chris Shields looks shot.

[DCWA]

Dundalk were awful, even the goals two are set pieces and that’s the only way they were likely to score. Very, very poor football from them and if they carry that over to Europe they are out already.

anyone else not getting an actual stream from Cork here just the cover photo thingy?

[D24Saint]

Will Waterford face a fine for all them yellow cards.

[The Lilywhites]

WatchLOI not working for Cork v Sligo. Issue with the camera.

Not good. Was looking forward to watching it.

[Nesta99]

Dundalk were awful, even the goals two are set pieces and that’s the only way they were likely to score. Very, very poor football from them and if they carry that over to Europe they are out already.

anyone else not getting an actual stream from Cork here just the cover photo thingy?


I was just about to post wondering if anyone else wasnt getting the game. Only seems to be the graphic eh streaming!?

[redarmyfaction]

Camera not working according to SRFC Twitter

[D24Saint]

Camera not working according to SRFC Twitter

Cameraman probably wanted to watch the Barca match.

[Nesta99]

Thought Oduwa looked very capable when he came on, especially in the last 15. Himself and Colovic would be positives for Dundalk in the European games,
Chris Shields looks shot.

It took a while for Oduwa to look dangerous. He started off with the multiple turns, holding the ball but not really going anywhere. He then started running at defenders and showed what he could do. He'd be a nightmare to defend against and a couple of one-two moves that worked nicely. If he started to drive more in to the box you could see him nabbing a few penos. He could move off the wing too if he adapted some. First time he got some proper competative time so will improve no doubt. Im presuming Colovic was being minded ahead of CL as while both are lefties, would be more effective than throwing McMillan on and taking one of them off instead. Sheilds not in form at all. I wouldnt call him shot but there's more expected of him, with the players around him, than doing what he is excellent at which is breaking things up in midfield. Its like he is being expected to play the 'O'Donnell role' more and more but S'OD was a natural passer along with the midfield graft. Its like a side that is being rebuilt and the manager doesnt know yet who to pair up and different combinations of players being tried. Though if there were no injuries ye still get the feeling that the old reliables would get the nod bar Colovic so far.

[redarmyfaction]

Cork score against the run of play.

[Kingdom]

It took a while for Oduwa to look dangerous. He started off with the multiple turns, holding the ball but not really going anywhere. He then started running at defenders and showed what he could do. He'd be a nightmare to defend against and a couple of one-two moves that worked nicely. If he started to drive more in to the box you could see him nabbing a few penos. He could move off the wing too if he adapted some. First time he got some proper competative time so will improve no doubt. Im presuming Colovic was being minded ahead of CL as while both are lefties, would be more effective than throwing McMillan on and taking one of them off instead. Sheilds not in form at all. I wouldnt call him shot but there's more expected of him, with the players around him, than doing what he is excellent at which is breaking things up in midfield. Its like he is being expected to play the 'O'Donnell role' more and more but S'OD was a natural passer along with the midfield graft. Its like a side that is being rebuilt and the manager doesnt know yet who to pair up and different combinations of players being tried. Though if there were no injuries ye still get the feeling that the old reliables would get the nod bar Colovic so far.


That's a decent summary to be fair.
From what I'd seen of him, stevie used his positioning to break up play as much as throwing himself into tackles. But Shields looked like he couldn't do anything right this evening, and only a fool would fail to acknowledge what a big part he's been of Dundalk in the last couple of years.

I'd like to see what Leahy would do for Dundalk at LB.

Unfortunately it's hard to see how Dundalk will progress next week.

[The Lilywhites]

Sheridan fairly riled Perth up, telling him he's getting sacked anyway.

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