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D24Saint
28/06/2019, 11:24 PM
Genuinely don't like being a misery merchant but this is right up there with the least I've ever enjoyed a season despite us having many where we've been a worse side than this year. Our squad is too good for it to be as...meh as it has been so far.
Delighted it’s not just me !
nigel-harps1954
28/06/2019, 11:37 PM
Don't think I've ever seen a decision before like the one in tonights game in Finn Park.
Raf Cretaro smashed a ball from 40 yards, keeper spilled it, clearly caught it about two yards over the line and brought it out into play again.
Ref couldn't give the goal because the linesman fell over trying to get back into position....
It was truly one of the most mind boggling things I've ever seen at a football match.
Alongside the mascot getting told to clear off from behind the back of the goal by the referee and not coming back out for the second half, it made for two strange moments in Finn Park.
PartySaint
28/06/2019, 11:40 PM
Genuinely don't like being a misery merchant but this is right up there with the least I've ever enjoyed a season despite us having many where we've been a worse side than this year. Our squad is too good for it to be as...meh as it has been so far.
Join the club. Don’t even look forward to games anymore.
Dalymountrower
28/06/2019, 11:46 PM
Join the club. Don’t even look forward to games anymore.
Just as well that you don't care,Agent Harry will be throwing another 3 points Rovers way on Monday.
Ezeikial
28/06/2019, 11:51 PM
Would you ever shut the **** up about the ****ing "overcrowding".
You realise I was talking about the match last March when I said "Rovers have form here, having previously shown a scant regard for crowd safety issues for the last league meeting in Tallaght."?
I understand it might be a touchy subject for you, but it hardly warrants the aggressive expletive-deleted reaction from you
The away end was sold out, it was on Rovers twitter that there'd be no tickets, surprised you missed it, you must have missed that notification coming through. The away end was sold out but there were empty seats, why? Because your own fans decided to overcrowd one section so shut the **** up.
Posting a notification on Rovers twitter in late afternoon is hardly the best way to distribute a sold out message to away fans.
There was any amount of seats available in the East Stand including loads of vacant sections. It was obviously a conscious decision made to limit the number of visiting fans, despite the available capacity. An obvious potential consequence of this approach is to end up with visiting fans in the home sections
It seems nonsensical and petty to me, but not entirely unexpected given previous form
ToberonaTornado
28/06/2019, 11:52 PM
For me the Rogers foul is a sending off but my quick fire prayer to St.Jude worked and all he got was a yella :)
Dundalk were absolute thrash in the 1st half,Shams couldn't capitalise on how poor we were.Once Dundalk got out of that half unscathed i kinda thought well fuq,we might actually win this game.Was surprised VP didn't haul an ineffective Murray off at the break but aT least we started to put some passes together 2nd half and got Rovers on somewhat of a back foot.
Dundalk players were giving out to each other over sloopy passes and bad play.Gartland was furious with his co back four on a number of occasions and let them know,Gannon berated Duffy(?) for a heavy touch when he(Gannon) thought he had a clear sight on goal in the 1st half.That's a good sign imo.That's how good sides operate.
Dundalk looked rusty after 3 weks without a competitive match but still had that wee bit of guile to get an amazing result.
Sean Gannon is simply sublime,improves y-o-y,the best in the business.
A draw would have been a fair result i think but Gannon...........
Great craic and brilliant atmosphere at the match & deffo one to remember for us.
Ezeikial
28/06/2019, 11:56 PM
Best team on the night lost but that's the way it go's. Credit to dundalk champions again.
Fai cup and Europe still to play for and find a hat stand for next season.
Rovers were certainly the better team in the first half, but not so obviously so in the second half
In any event Rovers came nowhere near doing enough to win the match.
Nesta99
29/06/2019, 3:31 AM
Rovers were certainly the better team in the first half, but not so obviously so in the second half
In any event Rovers came nowhere near doing enough to win the match.
Nowhere near? Hitting the crossbar, Greene shinning a ball wide from 4 ot 5 yards, the arguable Clarke through bar Roger's intervention, some last ditch scrambles. They did plenty to win the game bar put the ball in the net which of course is all that matters! It was a super result by us considering the below par performance. Soul destroying for Rovers and hopefully seriously erodes confidence!
Pace or not RH defenders were flocking back to cover Rogers sweeper keeper moment, it wasnt a nailed on red card. Thing is though is that Rovers spurned clear cut chances, if playing 11 v 10 Rovers I dont think much would have changed. Soaking up pressure then hit on the break, we probably would have sat in and been more difficult to break down. The goal was superbly taken by Gannon - McEleney likes creating chances in that very same area of the box in Tallaght ala the BATE match.
Pats wn tonight but fans still hugely negative? Better off than the last couple of seasons if not the fancy football of a Buckley side!?
Ezeikial
29/06/2019, 6:42 AM
Nowhere near? Hitting the crossbar, Greene shinning a ball wide from 4 ot 5 yards, the arguable Clarke through bar Roger's intervention, some last ditch scrambles. They did plenty to win the game bar put the ball in the net which of course is all that matters!
For Rovers to win, they had to score at least two of those chances - I think their inability to score indicates that they "came nowhere near doing enough to win the match".
Rovers have many fine players - Clarke, Finn and Byrne were particularly impressive, but certainly don't have a strikers of the standard needed to actually win the tight games. Two goals in six matches against Dundalk and Bohs resulting in 1 point from a possible 18 tells its own story
Waterford unlucky tonight. Bad defending from a corner in injury time left Bohs player free to score at the near post which is exactly what happened in our first home game v Shamrock Rovers. We also had a pitch invasion again by the away fans to celebrate the winner and a flare thrown onto the pitch which delayed the restart. Our security firm is getting a lot of criticism on social media for being too soft with away fans.
Waterford were better team for most of 2nd half and didn't deserve to lose.
RathfarnhamHoop
29/06/2019, 8:41 AM
Pace or not RH defenders were flocking back to cover Rogers sweeper keeper moment, it wasnt a nailed on red card. Thing is though is that Rovers spurned clear cut chances, if playing 11 v 10 Rovers I dont think much would have changed. Soaking up pressure then hit on the break, we probably would have sat in and been more difficult to break down. The goal was superbly taken by Gannon - McEleney likes creating chances in that very same area of the box in Tallaght ala the BATE match.
He was getting to that ball before it got past the east edge of the box, with nobody between him and the goal, on his good foot, that is about as clear a goalscoring opportunity as you'll get.
The law isn't would the attacking player definitely score its would they have a clear chance to and a shot into an empty goal from the edge of the box is definitely that. Compare that to Lloris' red vs psv last season and Rodgers is two red cards
Well you probably wouldn't have scored your goal that's a pretty big change
White Horse
29/06/2019, 8:43 AM
That was the worst home performance in recent memory from us. Absolutely clueless. Fans let the players know how they felt at full time. I just walked out, I normally stay until they go down the tunnel. In truth, I should've left after 30 minutes. Yeah we are above Waterford but they have 3 games in hand.
Cork are a reminder how quickly things can go wrong in football. Neck and neck with Dundalk this time last year, now they are hardly showing up for games. Confidence is huge in football, and I get the impression that players' confidence is on the floor. My own take is that success consists of a lot of small decisions being made right. None on their own is significant, but put together they are immense.
Despite the rivalry, I really feel for the genuine fans. It could happen to any club.
outspoken
29/06/2019, 8:44 AM
Rovers won't win as much as a raffle with Carr up front. I'd throttle him if I was his team mate. Every single time rovers attempted to play forward he was 20 yards offside. He has pace, good control and looks to be a really good player up until it comes to timing a run in behind, surprised Greene didn't start, he almost equalised off the bench but again he doesn't seem to have that killer instinct in front of goal and for that reason Rovers wont win a thing. Will be interesting to see if Cummins can change that. Definitely more of a hold up player than a striker that runs in behind but if you have the likes of Carr, Greene and Byrne running off him it could work.
pineapple stu
29/06/2019, 8:51 AM
Pats wn tonight but fans still hugely negative? Better off than the last couple of seasons if not the fancy football of a Buckley side!?
Thought Pats were poor last night. I can understand their frustration cos they've been poor the three times I've seen them now, but they're very solid and good at ekeing out results. Less than a goal a game for and against tells a story though. Kenny's a bit like Caulfield in that I can see no mercy given if results dip
Ezeikial
29/06/2019, 9:24 AM
Despite the rivalry, I really feel for the genuine fans. It could happen to any club.
Its easier to feel when the rivalry has gone.
The realisation that Cork are no threat to anyone currently is probably what hurts fans the most. They will bounce back, but it may take some time and level headed decision making
Ezeikial
29/06/2019, 9:27 AM
Rovers won't win as much as a raffle with Carr up front. I'd throttle him if I was his team mate. Every single time rovers attempted to play forward he was 20 yards offside. He has pace, good control and looks to be a really good player up until it comes to timing a run in behind, surprised Greene didn't start, he almost equalised off the bench but again he doesn't seem to have that killer instinct in front of goal and for that reason Rovers wont win a thing. Will be interesting to see if Cummins can change that. Definitely more of a hold up player than a striker that runs in behind but if you have the likes of Carr, Greene and Byrne running off him it could work.
If you want to see what constant offside looks like, Carr is in the halfpenny place compared to Cummins. At least Carr makes runs behind even if they are often poorly timed
nigel-harps1954
29/06/2019, 9:34 AM
Cretato 'goal' last night.
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pineapple stu
29/06/2019, 9:45 AM
Don't think I've ever seen a decision before like the one in tonights game in Finn Park.
Raf Cretaro smashed a ball from 40 yards, keeper spilled it, clearly caught it about two yards over the line and brought it out into play again.
Ref couldn't give the goal because the linesman fell over trying to get back into position....
It was truly one of the most mind boggling things I've ever seen at a football match.
Cretato 'goal' last night.
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Looks like it's not over the line to me. Certainly doesn't match your "mind boggling" description. Bit of home bias methinks!
joey B
29/06/2019, 9:54 AM
Never be able to tell for sure but from the video his foot is on the line and he seems to be reaching,it felt like a goal if you were in the ground,a Sligo fan on Twitter said he was directly in line and it was a foot over,luckily it all matters very little!
pineapple stu
29/06/2019, 9:58 AM
Angle of the video certainly not ideal alright.
But I think we can agree it's not two yards over the line anyway!
geysir
29/06/2019, 10:00 AM
Judging by the still shot, the goalie has his foot on the line and has an outstretched arm to scoop the ball. I'd say it's at least 50.5cm over the line.
marinobohs
29/06/2019, 10:26 AM
Waterford unlucky tonight. Bad defending from a corner in injury time left Bohs player free to score at the near post which is exactly what happened in our first home game v Shamrock Rovers. We also had a pitch invasion again by the away fans to celebrate the winner and a flare thrown onto the pitch which delayed the restart. Our security firm is getting a lot of criticism on social media for being too soft with away fans.
Waterford were better team for most of 2nd half and didn't deserve to lose.
Away fans celebrating a late late winner away from home, somewhat against the run of play 🤔 shocking stuff. We really must get this passion out of the game !
Poor enough game that had 1-1 written all over it. Bohs have played much better and lost.
Great to Nick the 3 points and sets up a cracker for Monday night.
PartySaint
29/06/2019, 10:33 AM
Just as well that you don't care,Agent Harry will be throwing another 3 points Rovers way on Monday.
Yeah it’s a handy win for them to get them back on track. Kenny will probably be wearing a green and white scarf on the sideline
Dalymountrower
29/06/2019, 10:35 AM
The league title chase is over but If Bohs narrow the gap with Rovers any further, Bradley will be sacked.
marinobohs
29/06/2019, 10:37 AM
The next couple of seasons these matches are going to become bigger and bigger
And shams do sooooo well in big matches 😁🤣
joey B
29/06/2019, 11:39 AM
Im fascinated to see what Corks response to last night's result will be on Monday,we'll find out if there's any fight left in the dog!
trevy
29/06/2019, 12:44 PM
Away fans celebrating a late late winner away from home, somewhat against the run of play 🤔 shocking stuff. We really must get this passion out of the game !
Poor enough game that had 1-1 written all over it. Bohs have played much better and lost.
Great to Nick the 3 points and sets up a cracker for Monday night.
Nothing wrong with passion but about 40 lads running onto the pitch and a flare being thrown on is over the top. Our security didn't even bother to try stop it or get the lads off the pitch. I presume both clubs will be fined if it's in referee's report.
brendy_éire
29/06/2019, 1:00 PM
Both clubs may be fined, but Bohs will get the heavier one. Waterford will be fined if they didn't do all they could to prevent it.
Bohs fans have form for pitch invasions.
Handy win for ourselves in Cork, how times are changed. I'd wonder if Cotter will be staying in his role or not. Only a couple of weeks until the EL, and Cork can't be going out playing like that
nigel-harps1954
29/06/2019, 1:55 PM
Angle of the video certainly not ideal alright.
But I think we can agree it's not two yards over the line anyway!
Two yards it certainly looked in the ground, the video doesn't do the argument huge favours but the still image from the video shows clearly enough he was well over the line.
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pineapple stu
29/06/2019, 2:08 PM
I don't think that shows anything clearly enough to be honest. Least of all the ball!
His boot is on the line. His arm being over the line - if it is - is only an issue if the rules have changed so that arms over the line count as a goal. The ball is pitchside of his arm, so even if his arm was over the line, it wouldn't follow that the ball is.
Close, but inconclusive I think. Still tending towards no goal, and that your initial comment was home bias I'm afraid
Paul Devlin for Bohs away to Bray in 2006. Now that was over the line!! (Edit: added video, awful quality but the moment in question is at 2:19)
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I’m leaning toward Sir Pineapple on this one. Not clear cut at all - could be either a goal or not based on the evidence. And Nigel, it’s deffo not a full 2 yards over. :) on the sauce were ye? ;-)
nigel-harps1954
29/06/2019, 2:55 PM
The anti-Harps bias of the Dublin teams strikes again :cool:
D24Saint
29/06/2019, 3:35 PM
The anti-Harps bias of the Dublin teams strikes again :cool:
I blame the Dublin media.
nigel-harps1954
29/06/2019, 3:41 PM
I blame the Dublin media.
Myself and Gerry Malone are starting a culchie media group. We'll show the pesky Dubs..
Tough one last night to take for Rovers, a draw would have been a fair result I think, they were def the better side in the first, but Dundalk absolutely upped the gears in the second and finished the stronger.
Dundalk defended very well all night, there is a serious level of concentration across the back 4 and that will get better once Boyle is up to speed and ready for action, our MF was poor in the first half, Murray looked well off the pace, pity Flores missed out being injured would have liked to have seen how he fared in a high profile game like last night. Great to see Benson back and passing it, MCGrath was superb for his hold up play for the assist for the goal. Rovers need a striker, that is beyond critical at this stage.
The quality from both sides was good, I'm sure it was a decent view on tv, delighted with the win, not over yet, but can't really see anyone getting too close at this stage, but still 4 months to go and europe could have an impact, so you never know. I think Dundalk will get stronger though.
The Lilywhites
29/06/2019, 8:24 PM
Rovers are getting way too much praise for their performance last night.
Dundalk weren't at the races in the first half. Had Rovers a shot on target? Finn's looked to be going wide and Byrne hit the crossbar.
Dundalk were in control for virtually all of the second half until they shut up shop after the goal. Greene's miss was poor alright but he's not a goalscorer.
Deserved win for Dundalk overall, in a game that they were forced to play a 50% fit Murray in the middle.
Rovers simply aren't a good enough team to challenge for the title. 1 point from 18 against the 1st and 3rd placed teams proves that.
Bohs are still the best team to play Dundalk this season (Dundalk blessed in both home games, especially the first one) and I'd expect them to finish 2nd at this stage. If that does happen, surely it's the end for Bradley.
Nesta99
29/06/2019, 8:58 PM
Rovers are getting way too much praise for their performance last night.
Dundalk weren't at the races in the first half. Had Rovers a shot on target? Finn's looked to be going wide and Byrne hit the crossbar.
Dundalk were in control for virtually all of the second half until they shut up shop after the goal. Greene's miss was poor alright but he's not a goalscorer.
Deserved win for Dundalk overall, in a game that they were forced to play a 50% fit Murray in the middle.
Rovers simply aren't a good enough team to challenge for the title. 1 point from 18 against the 1st and 3rd placed teams proves that.
Bohs are still the best team to play Dundalk this season (Dundalk blessed in both home games, especially the first one) and I'd expect them to finish 2nd at this stage. If that does happen, surely it's the end for Bradley.
Better keep yer hard hat close to hand!
sbgawa
29/06/2019, 9:32 PM
Everyone's entitled to their opinion the league table will tell a story in the end.
Ezeikial
30/06/2019, 8:17 AM
Everyone's entitled to their opinion the league table will tell a story in the end.
Rovers inadequacies in the crunch matches are already apparent.
The league table tells a story right now.
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Pats wn tonight but fans still hugely negative? Better off than the last couple of seasons if not the fancy football of a Buckley side!?
I'm not so sure we are better off than the last couple of seasons. Ok, we've managed to beat Cork ( but then who hasn't this year )and yourselves at Richmond, but we aren't played well overall. We're still floating around mid table, as we were last year. I think th frustration is that we seemed to have recruited well, and arguably have the players to be pushing for third place.
On the Rovers/ Dundalk game, I though it was a red for Rogers. If it had been against Pats I'd have been furious that it wasn't given, and believe me, I have no agenda for Rovers. Great finish by Gannon though to win it.
Nah Nah Nah Nah
30/06/2019, 7:37 PM
https://twitter.com/sligorovers/status/1145375103565385729
Nice touch from Harps. Didn't make the game but by all accounts we were rubbish.
nigel-harps1954
30/06/2019, 8:38 PM
https://twitter.com/sligorovers/status/1145375103565385729
Nice touch from Harps. Didn't make the game but by all accounts we were rubbish.
For such a big crowd of away fans, there wasn't the slightest bit of bother. Exactly how it should be all the time. Credit to the club.
Just from watching the video, with the caveat that the angle is obviously not ideal, it certainly looks to me like the keeper's comfortably stopped it before the line.
Cretato 'goal' last night.
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PartySaint
01/07/2019, 8:49 AM
Pats wn tonight but fans still hugely negative? Better off than the last couple of seasons if not the fancy football of a Buckley side!?
We're on course to finish on the same amount of points as last season and in the same position, that's with a bigger budget and a horrendous 'style' of play.
Bring back Bucko.
D24Saint
01/07/2019, 9:40 AM
We're on course to finish on the same amount of points as last season and in the same position, that's with a bigger budget and a horrendous 'style' of play.
Bring back Bucko.
Hopefully the board will sit down at the end of the year and can sort things out. I cant see them paying off an entire year of his contract.
Ezeikial
01/07/2019, 10:45 AM
Vinny Perth talks about his annoyance at personal abuse from the stands
https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer ... l-17282443
https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/42 ... vers-fans/
sbgawa
01/07/2019, 11:06 AM
We're on course to finish on the same amount of points as last season and in the same position, that's with a bigger budget and a horrendous 'style' of play.
Bring back Bucko.
Just don't start to show some form tonight :)
Should be a decent enough crowd for the Luas derby youd have to think, Monday or not
D24Saint
01/07/2019, 11:11 AM
Just don't start to show some form tonight :)
Should be a decent enough crowd for the Luas derby youd have to think, Monday or not
Should be healthy enough its our last home game before the European game aswell. Id say a bit of anticipation for the European game will help our numbers.
geysir
01/07/2019, 5:16 PM
Just from watching the video, with the caveat that the angle is obviously not ideal, it certainly looks to me like the keeper's comfortably stopped it before the line. What I see now is the goalie’s left foot is clearly over the line when his hand goes further over the goaline to retreive the ball. The good acting of the goalie is fooling the more gullible of the east coast element.
pineapple stu
01/07/2019, 6:56 PM
Sligo are tweeting in Westlife quotes tonight.
For that, they deserve to lose.
And hilariously, we have scored! 1-0 good guys. Scales.
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