Limerick Desmond League 2018/19

[last man back]

Agree. Youths league going downhill a few years now, won’t change unless a different approach is taken. Maybe run league off quicker, Friday night games for 1st 6 weeks of season make use of floodlight grounds when evenings get darker. Saturday afternoons a lot of that age group are working. League needs to get clubs together and come up with fresh ideas, I’m not saying above suggestions will fix it but something needs to change.

[Cruyff]

Agree. Youths league going downhill a few years now, won’t change unless a different approach is taken. Maybe run league off quicker, Friday night games for 1st 6 weeks of season make use of floodlight grounds when evenings get darker. Saturday afternoons a lot of that age group are working. League needs to get clubs together and come up with fresh ideas, I’m not saying above suggestions will fix it but something needs to change.

These ideas are the kind of thing we need, I've often suggested either playing on a Saturday evening in fine weather. Or maybe have a reduced numbers Astro league, all that matters is that they stay playing the game until junior, who cares if it's 11 a side or 7 a side as long as you have players coming through. No rule there against it

[westernflow]

Sorry to nit pick but there isn't exactly a load of astro pitches in the league. I would ask is the 2.30pm KO really needed? Especially now that underage hasn't been on all winter. I assume 11 or 12 on a Saturday would appeal to more players and eve coaches.

[Shearer]

Sorry to nit pick but there isn't exactly a load of astro pitches in the league. I would ask is the 2.30pm KO really needed? Especially now that underage hasn't been on all winter. I assume 11 or 12 on a Saturday would appeal to more players and eve coaches.
Could resort to Futsal, there's umpteen amounts of basketball courts and parish halls.

[robotwarsfan]

Pretty sure 2:30 would suit most youth players. The point made earlier about them working has to be a joke surely? They are either in 5th or 6th year studying for the leaving cert so would have no time? Besides there are plenty of youths players who train with limerick minor hurling or football which is usually around 11-12pm slot so in that case a lot of teams would have to give walkovers.
What was the point in ferry playing ballingarry to get hockeyed considering they lost 13-0 nil to a team in their own division. Strange one with mountcollins considering they played the u17 cup final with Broadford last year.
2:30 imo is ideal for the youth players especially those with gaa commitments

[last man back]

You've obviously never coached a youths team robotwarsfan

[sportsfanatic]

The two walkovers were from sides in Division 2 who had to travel to two of the best youth sides in Limerick at the moment.
Ballingarry in the last 16 of FAI and Broadford in the QTR final of Munster Youth. Obviously you never want to see walkovers and you should play a match regardless of who the opposition is but these are 16/17 year olds who prob just didn’t want in Ferry’s point view travel 40 mins to concede a lot of goal considering someone in their own division put double figures past them.

In regards to time changes, I think it doesn’t really matter because county teams train in the morning meaning you would lose those boys and youngfellas that work will miss a 12 game the same as they would miss a 2:30 game.

Best of luck to Ballingarry this weekend in last 16 of FAI. Tough task to get past Mervue. Great to see Ballingarry and broadford progressing far in FAI and Munster youth and representing the league.

[Abbeyman]

Smaller parishs are coming under a lot of pressure with depopulation and smaller family's. GAA clubs are also joining up for minor teams.
In the towns of West Limerick there are some very large extended family's but unfortunately they wont represent their town or do anything positive for their community/Sports clubs .

[westernflow]

Fair play to both Broadford and Ballingarry for flying the flag so well in those comps. I understand the hammerings that were likely but what sort of precedent are managers/clubs setting by throwing in the towel? Players wont have enough games played and will likely fall away completely from the game. to the best of my knowledge the minor footballers for limerick aren't back and there wouldn't be too many desmond league players on Limerick hurling panels. The 2.30pm KO has to be a put off but i accept that a better time isn't easy find. i reckon that despite the GAA that this age group will benefit with the FAI enforce summer soccer. If they can find a tuesday eve or something for the games that avoids gaa then hopefully we'll see an improvement.

As for clubs joining, of course in soccer this doesnt formally happen but are players not just moving around to the nearest club? Adare last with ballingarry, kildimo with breska, glantine etc with abbey?

[robotwarsfan]

another walkover in the youths on Saturday with mountcollins not being able to field a team at home, such a shame in what seemed like a very competitive league

[Desmond18]

3-0 victory for Carrick V Broadford yesterday. Anyone hear anything from the game?

[Red_Devil]

Hi all. New to posting on the thread but have been following for a long. I’m involved with a club in the League. How do the League justify only posting Sunday’s game on the Tuesday? No wonder there is walkovers. Other sports for example GAA have their games up until August mapped out.

[Cruyff]

Hi all. New to posting on the thread but have been following for a long. I’m involved with a club in the League. How do the League justify only posting Sunday’s game on the Tuesday? No wonder there is walkovers. Other sports for example GAA have their games up until August mapped out.

I'm going to write a novel on it one of the days....

[Gazza29]

I'm going to write a novel on it one of the days....
If it bugs you that much go to the AGM and take the job and then you can stop talking about it and there will be no need for the novel

[southern kid]

To be fair to him Gaza he is right,is it not the same thing to put the fixtures out on s Sunday afternoon rather than a Tuesday morning.i used to dislike that also when playing, u could realise Tuesday u have no game which is a bit late.i kno it's not easy job but now it should be no prob with all teams out of outside competitions..

[fanaticfan]

The fixtures should be out 2 or 3 weeks in advanced like the city league. Finding out on a Tuesday or Wednesday if you have a game or not is a joke.

[Gazza29]

The fixtures should be out 2 or 3 weeks in advanced like the city league. Finding out on a Tuesday or Wednesday if you have a game or not is a joke.
Same thing, Shur why won’t u go to the AGM and take the job. I think that’s a fair question since ye are criticising the current system, or is it that ye couldn’t b bothered

[the 12 th man]

Take it to PM lads,not worth the rest of us seeing a tittle tattle or failing that do the grown up thing and ignore each other.

[westernflow]

Munster youths cup qf ft: Charleville 1 broadford 2. Injury time winner by Colm ryan. James Molyneaux had put broadford 1-0 up in the 32nd min and Charleville equalized in the 73rd min.

Great for Broadford to be into the final four of this competition. Fantastic for a great club.

[Johnnie C]

After all the previous discussions on the problems with youths football in the area its great to see this tonight. Away to Killorglin or Villa FC in semi.

[robotwarsfan]

Breska also won the Youths Division 2 title today. I think that’s their first team at that level since 13/14.
Very good result for broadford today, I’ve seen that Charleville team play before and they are very good at playing ball

[Abbeyman]

Well done to broadford one of the few youth teams in West Limerick with ability and ( a team )
Two more walkovers out of 4 matchs fixed yesterday , clash with hurling matchs apparently. This summer soccer underage will be great fun .
PS Should referees get full payment for walkovers ?

[Shearer]

There's life in Ballingarry yet.

[Yorkshire rose]

Cannot understand why clubs wait until an hour or two before kick-off to inform the league that they are giving a walkover when the fixtures for both codes are known well in advance and clubs could arrange an alternative time or date to play the game.

[Shearer]

Granagh were winning 3-2 against Kildimo when it was abandoned after 88 minutes. The website has it down as abandoned with no result.
Am I right in saying that once a game passes a certain amount of minutes and something happens that the result stands?

[westernflow]

Thats the second abandonment of the season following AK BReska in Jan. Yes, once over 60 mins (I stand to be corrected, the result may stand) a game should only be blown up early at this point also. As for youths, Breska Carrig kick off was changed to 12pm for hurling AFAIK as st kierans were playing at 4pm. I know the GAA wouldn't care but they should try to arragne set days for soccer and set times for gaa. it will be to the loss of clubs and players from the game.

[Cruyff]

Granagh were winning 3-2 against Kildimo when it was abandoned after 88 minutes. The website has it down as abandoned with no result.
Am I right in saying that once a game passes a certain amount of minutes and something happens that the result stands?

Story I got was:
It was 2-1 to Granagh and on 87 minutes Kildimo equalized.
From the kick off Granagh went up the field and there was an alleged foul which wasn't given, everyone stopped briefly anticipating a whistle, but seeing as the referre's whistle didn't blow, Granagh played on and scored.
Then hilarity ensured...
Referee Eugene Noonan called the game off, allegedly received quite a bit of abuse from the Kildimo side.
I think it depends what the score was after 60 minutes when a game gets abandoned as far as points go, but I'm very much open to correction on that

[Red_Devil]

Same thing, Shur why won’t u go to the AGM and take the job. I think that’s a fair question since ye are criticising the current system, or is it that ye couldn’t b bothered
Nobody is having a go at the running of the league but I think it’s a fair question to ask for a few weeks advance notice of fixtures. It seriously hampers our ability to field a team and just leads to more walkovers. Which I’m sure is the same for other clubs.

[sportsfanatic]

Granagh to get the points so? If that’s what happened Cruyff you’d have to feel for Kildimo as they had thought they’d rescued a point but only to have it taken from them by confusion. Still, no excuse to verbally abuse the ref? They are more or less gone now, would take a lot for them to stay up!

KB have conceded 24 goals in their last 5 games (two 7:0 thrashing’s). The amalgamation doesn’t seem to be working too well there, what’s going on?

Another convincing result for Rathkeale this weekend gone. I don’t see anyone taking points off them other than Abbey and even if abbey do I don’t think that’ll be enough!!

[Couscous8]

Good morning. Any Junior results from the weekend?

[Desmond18]

[QUOTE=Shearer;1992613]There's life in Ballingarry yet.

Glin must have been very under strength for this beating as they'd normally match them comfortably to say the least

[last man back]

Ballingarry v Broadford. Shauntrade v Ncw. Granagh v Glin. All off today

[fanaticfan]

I'd love to know how ballingarry vs broadford was off but kildimo vs abbeyfeale was played in kildimo. Kildimo with one of the worst pitches in the league

[Cruyff]

I'd love to know how ballingarry vs broadford was off but kildimo vs abbeyfeale was played in kildimo. Kildimo with one of the worst pitches in the league

Supposedly the pitch is destroyed after it...

There was a Youths match played on Saturday that I watched and the pitch was barely fit to be walked on after...

[Shearer]

Clubs minding pitches.

[sportsfanatic]

I'd love to know how ballingarry vs broadford was off but kildimo vs abbeyfeale was played in kildimo. Kildimo with one of the worst pitches in the league

Game shouldn’t have gone ahead in Kildimo - pitch won’t be playable for another week or two now if the weather continues, totally wrecked pitch!
Two matches played on Ballingarry pitch Saturday and if they played on it yesterday it would have got destroyed like Kildimos. Right decision calling it off.

Why the league didn’t have a blanket call off with a yellow warning in place is ridiculous. Don’t like giving out about them but especially for cup games when we know on a Friday that pitches won’t be playable it’s just giving up home advantage when there is nothing a club can do!
Glin travelled all the way to Granagh then. Granagh’s pitch is barely playable in the summer not to mind when we have had weather we had in the last week.

[sportsfanatic]

Clubs minding pitches.

Yeah for sure, and with all the underage back training and seasons starting either last week or this week there will be a lot of traffic on pitches over the coming weeks.

[twotouch]

I agree with the blanket cancellation call for a Friday esp with cup games but I can also understand the league wanting to have games played. They will not want a repeat of last season with it continuing to mid late June. I do think tho with the league cup that they should bite d bullet and play the games under lights in clonreask. I know this was mentioned at the agm but they shot it down fairly quickly. All clubs pay towards the upkeep so let clubs utilise it

[westernflow]

The cup game issue would be sorted if we had one astro in the league. Could have played a game every wednesday since October and we'd be through most cups.

[robotwarsfan]

The cup game issue would be sorted if we had one astro in the league. Could have played a game every wednesday since October and we'd be through most cups.
Manor field AstroTurf???

[westernflow]

Ya why not? I assume the same old stories would crop up to avoid this but this would ensure teams have adequate games during the winter and avoid congestion in the spring which we are heading towards again.

[southern kid]

That was a great result for ballingarry v glin last wk..would like to see a good solid club like bgarry survive.. things must not be going too good in glin again, I heard there was a big fall out with management and players..one thing glin always had was there togetherness,but lately they seem to be pushovers. Another bad result and a win for granagh and bgarry would see them in the mix for the drop with kildimo.. any fixtures on st Patrick's wknd??

[Shearer]

No chance of Glin getting relegated. Not happening.

[westernflow]

Granagh will be getting 3 pts from Kildimo game

[southern kid]

You never know, when your sucked in an team morale is low it's easy happen with a bad run of results..if ballingarry put 5 past glin what will ratkeale beat them by..ratkeale flying it an will win league with the way ther going.

[Gazza29]

All games are off tomorrow

[Desmond18]

fine day for games... most pitches playable I would imagine ... Desmond league heading for a late finish as per usual ... some things never change

[nathanbrown]

I knew there'd be 1. I've been a critic of how the league have operated at the best of times, but how can you complain here? Last week there was a weather warning, the city league called off the games early and lads complained that Desmond league didn't follow suit and pitches would get ruined. This week there's a weather warning and games are called off and surprise surprise the Desmond league are wrong for not knowing it would be a nice day.

[southern kid]

Sensible callb by ldlf. U will never please everyone..

[Cruyff]

I knew there'd be 1. I've been a critic of how the league have operated at the best of times, but how can you complain here? Last week there was a weather warning, the city league called off the games early and lads complained that Desmond league didn't follow suit and pitches would get ruined. This week there's a weather warning and games are called off and surprise surprise the Desmond league are wrong for not knowing it would be a nice day.

Agreed, they can't win on that one, in fairness a yellow weather warning is a coin toss, they often overestimate but then last Sunday we got snow all of a sudden and matches get abandoned.

They can only work with the information they have at a given time, and in fairness they took a chance on it last week so they decided to play it safe this week.

Sometimes you'll look good in hindsight and sometimes you won't....