Chiedozie Ogbene M Ipswich b.1997

[Philly]

Chiedozie Ogbene has signed from Limerick, where he scored 10 goals last season, to Championship club Brentford.

https://www.brentfordfc.com/news/2018/january/chiedozie-ogbene-signs-30.01.18/

Has he played underage for Ireland? He was born in Nigeria and qualifies for them too. Will be interesting to see how things pan out for him at Brentford, he seems very highly rated.

[osarusan]

He was born in Nigeria and qualifies for them too.
Sure everybody knows that:o

He is highly rated by LOI standards. As I said in the other thread, one of the most exciting players I've seen at Limerick for a while.

What he has at the moment is a lot of pace, but he needs coaching on lots of other aspects of his game - when and where to make runs especially. He has always looked to me like a player that could get a lot better with the right coaching. Hopefully he gets it.

[DeLorean]

I wonder is Brentford a bit too good a move for him, if you know what I mean, in the same way Brighton was good a move for Towell?

For a fella who left Cork City in search of more game time just a year ago, it seems a massive leap in a short space of time.

[Olé Olé]

I wonder is Brentford a bit too good a move for him, if you know what I mean, in the same way Brighton was good a move for Towell?

For a fella who left Cork City in search of more game time just a year ago, it seems a massive leap in a short space of time.

I think he's very raw and much younger than Towell. The impression I get is that he has the tools to be class but needs a combination of coaching and hard work.

League One might not have been a bad shout. You could also refer to Daryl Horgan not exactly being a nailed on start for PNE.

[tetsujin1979]

Before anyone complains about Ogbene's international allegiances, if he does decide to represent Nigeria, I'll move the thread to the rest of the world section.

[liamoo11]

ah no leave it here please the man has lived here for a good length of time let him be irish until he is not

[tetsujin1979]

That's what I'm going to do

[liamoo11]

That's what I'm going to do

Sorry tets totally misread your post apologies

[tetsujin1979]

Sorry tets totally misread your post apologies
no problem

[nigel-harps1954]

Named on the bench for Brentford today against Preston. John Egan starts for Brentford while Greg Cunningham and Alan Browne start for Preston with Daryl Horgan on the bench.

[Olé Olé]

Horgan back out of favour but Cunningham and Browne are still fully in favour there. Would be interesting to see Ogbene get a run so soon. He's so raw it could go incredibly well or incredibly bad.

[osarusan]

Ended the season with two appearances, both as a substitute.

[samhaydenjr]

Opened the door to involvement with Ireland back in January (although did drop in a dreaded "when the opportunity comes, I would definitely think about it") - has had a loan spell at Exeter this season - https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/soccer-news/brentfords-chiedozie-ogbene-opens-door-13891037

[Olé Olé]

Dreaded? He's hardly at the top of our priority list for dual national maintenance or recruitment. His perspective has been clear too.

[Eirambler]

A goal and two assists today. Rotherham supporters are raving about him these days. Unfortunately he's a few months overage for the Under 21s and he has also shown an interest in Nigeria in the past.

Could be a player whose allegiance becomes a story if he continues to develop at his current rate.

[samhaydenjr]

A goal and two assists today. Rotherham supporters are raving about him these days. Unfortunately he's a few months overage for the Under 21s and he has also shown an interest in Nigeria in the past.

Could be a player whose allegiance becomes a story if he continues to develop at his current rate.

With Rotherham top of League One, Stephen Kenny should at least have a chat with him and see how he would feel about a Nations League call-up and at least get him thinking about it.

[DeLorean]

Made the EFL team of the week, as did Darragh Lenihan.

[tetsujin1979]

confirmed this morning that he will declare for the Republic of Ireland

[ColourfulPeanut]

He should be straight into the squad come September. He offers something different.

Not sure what paperwork needs to filled out. He's never played international football for anyone and he almost certainly has an Irish passport already. But it says in the reports the FAI have started the paperwork.

[Diggs246]

Is he that good? that would be quite the jump no? although if he is good enough why not

[Eirambler]

Good to see him declaring and worth a look in the squad and a nations league or friendly cap certainly.

Whether he will be good enough longer term remains to be seen, but we've seen plenty of players playing at that level at his age kick on and have really good careers - obviously plenty of others that fall away.

At 23 next season in the Championship could be a big one for him, Rotherham will be one of the weakest teams in the division but there's an opportunity for him to stand out and maybe put himself in the shop window for a move to a bigger club if he goes well enough.

[nigel-harps1954]

I never thought he was really anything more than okay. Never a standout in the LOI, left Cork to play for Limerick due to not getting a game there. Got a move to England off the back of a decent season at Limerick where they finished mid-table. Didn't get games at Championship level, and now has had one decent season at League One.

Time will tell whether or not he's good enough. He's certainly very fast, and keen to get on the ball, next season in the Championship will be a big one for him.

[ColourfulPeanut]

I never thought he was really anything more than okay. Never a standout in the LOI, left Cork to play for Limerick due to not getting a game there. Got a move to England off the back of a decent season at Limerick where they finished mid-table. Didn't get games at Championship level, and now has had one decent season at League One.

Time will tell whether or not he's good enough. He's certainly very fast, and keen to get on the ball, next season in the Championship will be a big one for him.
He didn't leave Cork because he couldn't get a game. He left because Limerick offered more money and a scholarship at UL. He was 19 and scored 3 goals in 9 games at Cork City when he left and they were desperate to keep him.

[nigel-harps1954]

He didn't leave Cork because he couldn't get a game. He left because Limerick offered more money and a scholarship at UL. He was 19 and scored 3 goals in 9 games at Cork City when he left and they were desperate to keep him.

He was quoted at the time saying he didn't want to sit on the bench at Cork. Cork had just signed Stephen Dooley and Ogbene left soon after.

There's no record of him having a scholarship at UL either.

[Fixer82]

Why would they need to sort out paperwork for him? If he's lived here since age 7, surely he qualifies as Irish citizen?

[Eirambler]

He may have never gone through the naturalisation process, may well have travelled on a Nigerian passport until now.

[ColourfulPeanut]

He was quoted at the time saying he didn't want to sit on the bench at Cork. Cork had just signed Stephen Dooley and Ogbene left soon after.

There's no record of him having a scholarship at UL either.
That wouldn't be on public record. Immediate playing time was a factor too but he had a much better offer from Limerick.

[nigel-harps1954]

That wouldn't be on public record. Immediate playing time was a factor too but he had a much better offer from Limerick.

Annoucements of scholarships are made by most colleges each year I'd have thought? The fact he went on the record and said he wasn't getting sufficient game time at Cork matters for nothing either?

[tetsujin1979]

There's a thread on peoplesrepublicofcork that mentions him going to UL, but nothing about a scholarship, and that Limerick offered him more money than Cork City

[nigel-harps1954]

https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/1069003/chiedozie-ogbene-left-cork-city-for-limerick-as-he-was-not-happy-with-place-on-the-bench/

While it's not always the most reputable publication, Owen Cower is usually spot on with his reporting.

For those who don't wish to click, Ogbene is quoted:



“I was different from everyone else, I was eager and didn’t want to settle for coming on, I felt I deserved to play.
“I was willing to do anything to get game time, if it is moving to Limerick, I’m willing to do that. Some players stayed, you wait but I couldn’t do it.
“You reach the age like 19, 20 and 21 and you need game time.

..


“It’s not good to stay on the bench for the whole year or half a season. You lose momentum.
“I know it’s hard to leave your previous club but these are the changes, these are the sacrifices you have to make.
“My ambition is to get to the next level and these are the changes you need to make to get there.”

[Charlie Darwin]

To be fair, he could just be saying that to avoid criticism. I wouldn't cast aspersions on him for taking a better offer either though. I'm glad he's declared, he has a very good chance of being in the shake-up.

In terms of paperwork, I imagine it's because he hasn't spent five years in Ireland since he was 18, so the paperwork would be required to prove he qualifies.

[samhaydenjr]

With Rotherham top of League One, Stephen Kenny should at least have a chat with him and see how he would feel about a Nations League call-up and at least get him thinking about it.

Called it!:victory:


Is he that good? that would be quite the jump no? although if he is good enough why not

Interesting question - he's 23 and has only a few Championship games under his belt, only really starting to make an impact at League One level last season -and while he has impressed over the last year we have plenty of youngsters playing at a higher level as well as more experienced Championship players who have only a few caps each. So why would we wait until he gets a season of Championship football under his belt before even thinking of capping him? I think his position is what makes Ogbene an immediate prospect - he's an out-and-out right winger and I don't think we have anybody else who is a specialist there. So if he settles in well in the new season, there's definitely a case to be made for him in appearing in the Nations League, at least, particularly in the last two games, when the play-offs will be over and some of the U21s will still be required for their final qualifiers.

Speaking of the U21s, I was just checking their schedule and there appears to be a change to the qualifying system due to COVID 19 and I haven't seen it elsewhere - instead of the best runner-up qualifying and the other eight runners-up having play-offs, it now appears that the five best runners-up will qualify directly

[Eirambler]

Yes, the under 21 format change was made a few weeks ago. It *should* hopefully suit us in that if we win the Iceland and Luxembourg games we should qualify regardless of the Italy result.

[osarusan]

He was one of the brightest talents I have seen at Limerick, real pace and energy about him, and looked like proper coaching would have a real impact on him. He was very raw and didn't know how to use his pace.

I still never imagined him getting near an Ireland squad though. Doing well with a League 2 team isn't such a high bar either.

[sadloserkid]

Cork were desperate to keep him alright. But on the bench. It's hardly ground breaking either that Limerick would offer more to a guy who'd play (I think) 32 games that season than Cork would to a guy who hadn't even reached double figures in appearances. It's worked out well enough for him anyway. I liked him as a player but it's definitely going to be interesting to see how the Championship pans out for him too.

[youngirish]

Had a good game in his first Championship appearance for Rotherham yesterday. His dribbling, passing and crossing all looked good against Daryl Horgan's newly promoted Wycombe.

If he continues getting a run of games in the Championship and performs well surely he must be worth a look over the likes of O'Dowda and McClean.

[nigel-harps1954]

https://foot.ie/threads/228241-Chiedozie-Ogbene-(M-Rotherham-b-1997)

[tetsujin1979]

threads merged

[Charlie Darwin]

If Ogbene has his nationality sorted out (he's obviously Irish but our nationality law leaves a lot to be desired) he has to be considered. Playing for Rotherham on the wing puts you in the frame for us, just like Sadlier and Clarke.

[youngirish]

According to the commentator on Sky he's been the best player on the pitch so far at home to Millwall. Call him up Stephen.

[Demesne Lad]

From BBC Sport 7 Oct. Rotherham manager Paul Warne confirmed Ogbene (23) had cartilage surgery on Monday, after sustaining an injury in training last week; he is unlikely to play again before January. He had started in Rotherham's first three Championship matches this season, having made 25 appearances during their League One promotion campaign in 2019/20.

[youngirish]

From BBC Sport 7 Oct. Rotherham manager Paul Warne confirmed Ogbene (23) had cartilage surgery on Monday, after sustaining an injury in training last week; he is unlikely to play again before January. He had started in Rotherham's first three Championship matches this season, having made 25 appearances during their League One promotion campaign in 2019/20.

Unfortunate. He had started the season well by all accounts.

[paul_oshea]

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2021/1005/1250965-leaving-nemo-ogbene-lauds-fathers-best-decision/

Nice read he comes across as a very likeable fella and one you could only hope does well

(side note i had to go through 2 pages at the very bottom from a search of "ogbene" in the advanced search, how is it so crap?!)

[tetsujin1979]

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2021/1005/1250965-leaving-nemo-ogbene-lauds-fathers-best-decision/

Nice read he comes across as a very likeable fella and one you could only hope does well

(side note i had to go through 2 pages at the very bottom from a search of "ogbene" in the advanced search, how is it so crap?!)
What do they say about a bad workman?

Change the "show results as" to "Threads" and change the drop down to "Search titles only" and this thread is the only result.

Or you could use the "Irish International Players And Important Thread Links" stickie at the top of the forum which, unsurprisingly, has links to threads for Irish internationals, and other important threads

[Olé Olé]

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2021/1005/1250965-leaving-nemo-ogbene-lauds-fathers-best-decision/

Nice read he comes across as a very likeable fella and one you could only hope does well

(side note i had to go through 2 pages at the very bottom from a search of "ogbene" in the advanced search, how is it so crap?!)

A little more detail in this output from the same press conference: https://www.the42.ie/article.php?id=5565246

Felt all warm and fuzzy reading it if I'm honest.

[paul_oshea]

What do they say about a bad workman?

Change the "show results as" to "Threads" and change the drop down to "Search titles only" and this thread is the only result.

Or you could use the "Irish International Players And Important Thread Links" stickie at the top of the forum which, unsurprisingly, has links to threads for Irish internationals, and other important threads

: D No no i won't have that, a forum where the players names are paramount to thread titles, surely admins can have default functionality for the main search to go through thread titles first? : P

[JR89]

He's a very likeable lad and was loved at Limerick. Always had a smile on his face and very approachable. Whether it was a photo, autograph or a chat after games. Very determined lad which showed when he left Cork to move to Limerick.

I hope it works out for him but at 24 he'll really need to push on in the next year or two if he wants to be more than a squad option. His pace is definitely something we could benefit from in the squad.

[paul_oshea]

THe fai had a video up about 2 days ago of training and various drills, he stood out albeit was only a 5 minute video, but he looked good. Wonder could he be a surprise selection especially if knight and Idah dont train?

Exactly 24 is not young. He needs to do and show a lot in the next year.

[JR89]

I don't think so as we don't really start with wide players up front and if we did it would more than likely be Connolly and Robinson with Keane central. Also think Horgan would get on before him.

[John83]

I'd agree he's almost certainly behind Robinson for right forward if we even play three up front. He could be worth a go in the friendly. You never know though, and Kenny has certainly made a few surprise calls over his tenure.