Scott Hogan F MK Dons b.1992

[DeLorean]

Hogan's goals from last night are at 2:15 & 4:40. Second is a beaut.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWfvRWdgWXs

For anybody bothering to watch the full video - Jake Doyle-Hayes is the fair haired chap wearing No.32. He played 78 minutes and received a lot of plaudits.

[swinfordfc]

Cant make the first team (11) at Villa so cant really see him being on the final panel for Ireland two games in Sept!

[Diggs246]

He is a starter for villa, was on the bench last weekend due to concerns over his fitness

[Paddy Garcia]

Bit premature this thread.

[KrisLetang]

Bit premature this thread.

Why? he's made himself available. Or did Rooney retire so they could show the Hulkster he could take Wayne's place if he changed his mind? Conspirators would like to know.

[Diggs246]

No its not, and walters has just unfortunately gone off injured

[jbyrne]

walters has just unfortunately gone off injured

just an ankle knock it appears. seemed to play on for a while so hopefully not too bad

[Diggs246]

Thats great we need him, especially as its a double header

[DannyInvincible]

O'Neill gives the impression he'd be open to the idea of debuting Scott Hogan (or even Seáni Maguire) next month, despite the fact O'Neill has never before given a player a debut in a competitive game: https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/1499889/martin-oneill-hints-at-handing-scott-hogan-a-debut-next-month-as-he-cries-out-for-a-goalscorer/


On Hogan, O’Neill said: “I think he could be ready for [Moldova/Wales].

“While you like some people like himself and young Maguire to come into the squad and maybe have a little look around for a while, it is asking a lot to go in.

“But we’ll see, you never know what the month might bring in terms of players playing a wee bit of extra football at club level, even in the Championship, and maybe just be ready for it.”

Whilst it sounds like the possibility isn't completely closed, I'd say it's still quite improbable in light of O'Neill cautious, conservative nature. He had another chance to throw Daryl Horgan on the other night, for example, but declined, presumably on account of Horgan's lack of experience. Although maybe having nothing to lose may change O'Neill's approach come October... Who knows?

[Olé Olé]

I still find it odd he went with O'Dowda instead of Horgan the other night.

We are so lacking for goalscorers, though, that this could really provide the only exception. I think he would pick Hogan long before Maguire also. His lack of faith in Maguire whilst he was with Cork won't have been completely eradicated by some brilliant performances at Preston until they provide goals.

[CraftyToePoke]

despite the fact O'Neill has never before given a player a debut in a competitive game

Was Kevin Long a debut ?

[DannyInvincible]

We are so lacking for goalscorers, though, that this could really provide the only exception.

We have to be able to create clear-cut chances for potential goal-scorers to score goals as well though and that's something we seriously struggle with. In fairness to Shane Long, he finished brilliantly against Germany and Moldova when he was presented with chances, but most of the time (and especially without Wes), he's just isolated because of how we're set up (just as Robbie was), so he simply doesn't get the opportunities.


I think he would pick Hogan long before Maguire also. His lack of faith in Maguire whilst he was with Cork won't have been completely eradicated by some brilliant performances at Preston until they provide goals.

I'd have the same feeling myself for some reason. Dunno why; just my gut feeling that he'd still be afraid to take the risk and trust Maguire ahead of a more established Championship player like Hogan.

[DannyInvincible]

Was Kevin Long a debut ?

Nah, the game against Mexico at the start of June was his debut. He came on as a second-half sub.

[DannyInvincible]

Scott Hogan on deciding to play for Ireland (https://twitter.com/FAIreland/status/914891666141716481) (during today's press conference after his first international training session):


"I've a big family back in Carlow. It wasn't a difficult decision. Injuries delayed my arrival but I've always wanted to be here."

[DannyInvincible]

Hogan will be out until the new year after he was operated on to clear an "extremely rare" blockage in his bowel last Tuesday night: https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/1818048/ireland-ace-scott-hogan-underwent-surgery-for-extremely-rare-issue-after-the-5-1-loss-to-denmark/

It seems he fell ill during the second half of the Denmark game and was taken to the Mater Hospital for surgery.

[Stuttgart88]

He wasn't the only one with a pain in the arse during the second half

[DannyInvincible]

He wasn't the only one with a pain in the arse during the second half

One of the few players who didn't sh*t himself on the night though.

[Philly]

I would not be surprised to see him loaned out in the second half of the season to see if he can get his momentum back.

[swinfordfc]

I would not be surprised to see him loaned out in the second half of the season to see if he can get his momentum back.

Villa really short on strikers at present ... will not be loaned out!

[tricky_colour]

I guess if he became captain he would become Captain Scott.

Beam me up Scottie!!!

[Eminence Grise]

I guess if he became captain he would become Captain Scott.

Wouldn't want to see him frozen out like that, personally.

[Olé Olé]

Scott has opened the scoring for Villa at home to Bristol City in the Championship tonight.

[Olé Olé]

Just checked- first goal in 1,087 minutes of Championship football and 289 days.

[tricky_colour]

The floodgates have opened!! :cool:

[tricky_colour]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMzH9O8Kv-w
first one. hourihane last one.

[samhaydenjr]

Let's hope that his 2018 is more like his 2016 and not his 2017

[samhaydenjr]

Surprised nobody mentioned this already, but Hogan got the only goal as Villa beat Forest - his second in two league games in 2018 - is he finally settling in? http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/42587563

[tricky_colour]

Surprised nobody mentioned this already, but Hogan got the only goal as Villa beat Forest - his second in two league games in 2018 - is he finally settling in? http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/42587563

Yes, I think I said in my last post here the floodgates have opened, perhaps slightly tongue in cheek, but it seems perhaps
they have.

Bit of a tap in as I recall but that was down to earlier good movement imo, a good sign in a way
as spectacular goals tend to be few and far between.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIvSZ6XPfWY

And I though Forest were on the up after beating Arsenal in the FA cup, clearly not.

Defending is not great but I'd prefer to give credit to Scott. Great ball in too.

[Olé Olé]

Oh yes. He's motoring now. He's got a goal after 5 minutes at home to Barnsley.

[Olé Olé]

Oh yes. He's really motoring now. He has scored a second.

[TrapAPony]

Five goals in five games now.

[Olé Olé]

Dean Smith has been appointed Aston Villa manager. He was in charge at Brentford and oversaw Hogan's 16/17 season goalscoring blitz. Positive news.

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/10/11/scott-hogan-reacts-to-dean-smiths-appointment-at-aston-villa-wit/

[seanfhear]

Dean Smith has been appointed Aston Villa manager. He was in charge at Brentford and oversaw Hogan's 16/17 season goalscoring blitz. Positive news.

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/10/11/scott-hogan-reacts-to-dean-smiths-appointment-at-aston-villa-wit/Intersting set of circumstances now alright .

[DeLorean]

Loan move for Hogan - https://www.sufc.co.uk/news/2019/january/hogan-arrives/

Would he have been better off going somewhere he'll be a guaranteed starter? Billy Sharp has 18 Championship goals this season.

[samhaydenjr]

Loan move for Hogan - https://www.sufc.co.uk/news/2019/january/hogan-arrives/

Would he have been better off going somewhere he'll be a guaranteed starter? Billy Sharp has 18 Championship goals this season.

Oh good, he'll be competing with McGoldrick for a spot, just when McGoldrick is in his best form in years. Okay, it's more likely he'll be a replacement for Leon Clarke, who has gone on loan to Wigan: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47063771 - should at least give him more of a chance to impress, as Clarke has started nine league games and appeared as sub in fifteen more for a total of 930 minutes and scored three times whereas Hogan has only six sub appearances for a grand total of 68 minutes at Villa. Hopefully he'll be able to kickstart a career that seems in danger of starting the fizzling out - in this regard, a move to Sheffield United has been good for McGoldrick, Egan and Stevens so lets hope it works for Hogan

[Charlie Darwin]

Oh good, he'll be competing with McGoldrick for a spot, just when McGoldrick is in his best form in years. Okay, it's more likely he'll be a replacement for Leon Clarke, who has gone on loan to Wigan: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47063771 - should at least give him more of a chance to impress, as Clarke has started nine league games and appeared as sub in fifteen more for a total of 930 minutes and scored three times whereas Hogan has only six sub appearances for a grand total of 68 minutes at Villa. Hopefully he'll be able to kickstart a career that seems in danger of starting the fizzling out - in this regard, a move to Sheffield United has been good for McGoldrick, Egan and Stevens so lets hope it works for Hogan
I don't really see them competing that much. McGoldrick is a 10 who links play. Hogan is an out-and-out 9. I can't see the manager there playing two number nines so looks like Hogan will mainly be an impact player, unless he can oust an in-form Sharp, which seems unlikely.

[CraftyToePoke]

Hopefully the manager there sees something in him like he saw in McGoldrick, that few others spotted & can bring that out in his play. Ipswich fans weren't bothered when McGoldrick left, same as Villa fans aren't bothered about Hogan leaving now.

[OwlsFan]

Hopefully the manager there sees something in him like he saw in McGoldrick, that few others spotted & can bring that out in his play. Ipswich fans weren't bothered when McGoldrick left, same as Villa fans aren't bothered about Hogan leaving now.

Not only McGoldrick but he also resurrected Leon Clarke's career (since moved on to Wigan) so it might be a good move for him since living in Sheffield is inclined to concentrate the mind on football with not much else of interest there I am afraid.

[samhaydenjr]

Just thought I'd note that Scott Hogan did get his first goal for Sheffield United last weekend in a 3-2 defeat to Bristol City - yes, I know, false dawns and all that, but still... where does he rank in our list of forwards? Competing with Maguire for fifth? Or has the goalscoring exploits of Collins and Curtis in League One (plus Will Keane's form before injury) left him adrift of the squad? https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47676102

[tommy_c12000]

Don’t think he will amount to much from an international perspective, hopefully, our promising young strikers will come through soon. If sheff United go up, they will need to invest in one or two strikers, Hogan will unlikely see much prem action

[Olé Olé]

Hard to know. That run with Brentford made us think we had (or were going to have!) a PL player on our hands and it hasn't worked out that way. Severe inconsistency makes me think he won't ever push a division up, similar to players like Jordan Rhodes and Ross McCormack, forever Championship. Can he do it for Ireland then? He hasn't shown much and I would rather McGoldrick, Maguire and Curtis now. I didn't mention Afolabi, Obafemi and Idah there.

[liamoo11]

Don’t think he will amount to much from an international perspective, hopefully, our promising young strikers will come through soon. If sheff United go up, they will need to invest in one or two strikers, Hogan will unlikely see much prem action

I wouldn't give up on him totally. He scored goals in a brentford's system where he played up front by himself but brentford played attractive link up type football through midfield with not alot of going back to front early. To be fair if we continue to play more through midfield like we did against Georgia that should suit him. At 27 he hopefully gives us 4 or 5 years as an option

[liamoo11]

Good goal. Seems to have had a good bit of football since the March internationals. Wonder wood sheff utd want to keep him for premier league?

[Olé Olé]

He's definitely playing for his PL future. You'd wonder will their recruitment policy change now if they get promoted. Their squad has no PL experience and is hardly made up of Championship stars but even looking at how good Egan, McGoldrick and Stevens have been makes you think the manager can get something more out of his players.

[liamoo11]

He's definitely playing for his PL future. You'd wonder will their recruitment policy change now if they get promoted. Their squad has no PL experience and is hardly made up of Championship stars but even looking at how good Egan, McGoldrick and Stevens have been makes you think the manager can get something more out of his players.

Yeah realistically wood likely be better for us if he got championship move and played 40 odd games and got back amongst the goals hard to see him getting much premier league game time

[Olé Olé]

I didn't realise that confirmed their promotion. Well done all. John Egan is one who could do with PL football to prove himself worthy of a spot in our team. Stevens and McGoldrick have both broken into the starting line-up on current form. Egan needs to position himself above Keogh and Clark and being a PL regular will be the tonic for that.

[samhaydenjr]

Good to see Hogan score... looked like a player trying hard to return to the form that made him such an exciting prospect, but isn't quite there yet. Still... did pretty well so there's still a possibility that he could be a factor for us over the next few years

[Fixer82]

Was hoping Jack O’Connell might declare for us and found this on wikipedia:

O'Connell does not consider himself British. Instead, he identifies strongly with his Derby upbringing and Irish heritage.[3][5]

Unfortunately, that’s the actor Jack O’Connell. The other lad has underage England caps

[Diggs246]

Was hoping Jack O’Connell might declare for us and found this on wikipedia:

O'Connell does not consider himself British. Instead, he identifies strongly with his Derby upbringing and Irish heritage.[3][5]

Unfortunately, that’s the actor Jack O’Connell. The other lad has underage England caps

O'Connell was approached. He was interested but he doesn't qualify

[Olé Olé]

Was hoping Jack O’Connell might declare for us and found this on wikipedia:

O'Connell does not consider himself British. Instead, he identifies strongly with his Derby upbringing and Irish heritage.[3][5]

Unfortunately, that’s the actor Jack O’Connell. The other lad has underage England caps
As an aside, I met Jack the actor in my local in Kerry. He stays in Kerry a lot because his dad was a Kerryman and his mate Barry Keoghan lives there. As an aside.

Don't think he plays much football though...