Fixture changes.

[Pablo Escobar]

Jesus, this argument between you lads and Cork is getting very tired. You've both been very well-treated by the league and other clubs in accommodating your need to have games moved. As we were in 2011. The sniping between each other was funny to start but it's just a bit tiresome now.
The sniping seems to be coming from Dundalk tbf. I think the city fans here have just been pointing out what fans of most other clubs have, i.e. read the rules. We can agree surely all agree that the club just exercised its right, but if you don't agree with the rule as it is, then I must ask that at what point do you think the rule should kick in, if at all?

[The Donie Forde]

FWIW, Oriel, City v Dundalk, 31 January 1988 was abandoned due to weather conditions and subsequently played on Wednesday 9 March.

CCFC has always sought postponements as per league rule whenever two players have been called into the Ireland Under-21 squad, every single time, including earlier this season v Shams. So it's probably fair to say there was no attempt at massaging the fixture list by CCFC.

[White Horse]

I think the city fans here have just been pointing out what fans of most other clubs have, i.e. read the rules. We can agree surely all agree that the club just exercised its right, but if you don't agree with the rule as it is, then I must ask that at what point do you think the rule should kick in, if at all?

Cork fans were delighted that this postponement would cause havoc to Dundalk. Don't try to pretend otherwise.

They were equally gutted when it backfired on them and explains their faux sympathy for Wexford.

[El-Pietro]

Cork fans were delighted that this postponement would cause havoc to Dundalk. Don't try to pretend otherwise.

They were equally gutted when it backfired on them and explains their faux sympathy for Wexford.

Cork fans were worried the game woudlnt be postponed and we would have to play without two of our better players. We thought the fact that it might cause problems for Dundalk would be an added bonus but was not our primary goal. It didnt work out that way, no big deal.

The sympathy for Wexford is not faux. Interesting that only Dundalk fans, and a few Bohs fans, don't see the fixture movement as unfair to Wexford. The Wexford fans on here aren't happy either.

Just think how you would feel if one of your fixtures was moved to make way for another teams game.

[White Horse]

Interesting that only Dundalk fans, and a few Bohs fans, don't see the fixture movement as unfair to Wexford. The Wexford fans on here aren't happy either.


Several Dundalk fans have posted that the Wexford game shouldn't have been moved unless agreed to by Wexford.

Your post doesn't acknowledge this and gives a misleading view of the opinion of Dundalk fans.

[disgruntled]

The root cause of this is the tight schedule that the league has to try to fit the games in. Trying to condense 3 domestic competitions into a 40 week period.

If any team started making 3 rounds in Europe there was always going to be issues if the insistence is that league games must finish by 28th october.

Wexford fans may be ****ed off at dundalk over their bohs games being rescheduled but the truth is that dundalk need games to play and are running out of time in which to get this completed.

This issue wouldn't of happen if cork didn't decide to cancel the dundalk game at the last minute by losing 2 players out of a squad of 25 to international duty.

It wasn't last minute. As soon as the squad was announced Cork City asked for the games to be postponed which was their right.


Jesus, this argument between you lads and Cork is getting very tired. You've both been very well-treated by the league and other clubs in accommodating your need to have games moved. As we were in 2011. The sniping between each other was funny to start but it's just a bit tiresome now.

There's no argument, just some Dundalk folk trying to pass the blame for Wexford getting shafted.
Even Kenny's got in the act complaining that Cork get more penalties than Dundalk. Sounds like a worried man to me :D

[dundalkfc10]

It wasn't last minute. As soon as the squad was announced Cork City asked for the games to be postponed which was their right.



There's no argument, just some Dundalk folk trying to pass the blame for Wexford getting shafted.
Even Kenny's got in the act complaining that Cork get more penalties than Dundalk. Sounds like a worried man to me :D

He said it to get into Cork's heads. If Ferguson, Mourinho etc... said this, they would be called masters of the mind games!

Kennys knew what he was at, and judging by response of Corks fans (and everyone else) it has worked.

Whats odds we get a peno tonight?

[sbgawa]

Cork fans were worried the game woudlnt be postponed and we would have to play without two of our better players. We thought the fact that it might cause problems for Dundalk would be an added bonus but was not our primary goal. It didnt work out that way, no big deal.

The sympathy for Wexford is not faux. Interesting that only Dundalk fans, and a few Bohs fans, don't see the fixture movement as unfair to Wexford. The Wexford fans on here aren't happy either.

Just think how you would feel if one of your fixtures was moved to make way for another teams game.

I can not understand the BS around this fixture change , Cork had a choice , play Dundalk in a match that if they lose will probably kill their chances of winning the league without two of their better players....as said above..or postpone the match....
They postponed the match what a surprise !., if I was a Cork supporter I would have done my nut if they had played it lost narrowly and ****ed away the league...

[Dodge]

He said it to get into Cork's heads. If Ferguson, Mourinho etc... said this, they would be called masters of the mind games!

Kennys knew what he was at, and judging by response of Corks fans (and everyone else) it has worked.

Whats odds we get a peno tonight?

OR Cork are in Kenny's head so much that he's worried about them even when he's previewing the Bohs game

Cork fans were pretty much all delighted about his comments last night

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The truth is all the whinging/mind games don't matter a ****. The best team wins the league, and managerial comments from either side won't play a part in it at all. If they did, Cork would win everything as Caulfield is the biggest whinger of them all.

[Calcio Jack]

According to today's Indo , Dundalk now looking to have league season extended by 48 hours so their final match can be played on the Monday evening , think if that is sanctioned they then have a Europa league match that Thurs away to Zenit followed (potentially) by cup final on the Sunday, will be interesting to see reaction if the FAI agrees especially if the league match in question is the game against Cork.

[jinxy lilywhite]

Is 48 hours not Sunday? ???

[Calcio Jack]

Is 48 hours not Sunday? ???

Indeed it is

[dundalkfc10]

OR Cork are in Kenny's head so much that he's worried about them even when he's previewing the Bohs game

Cork fans were pretty much all delighted about his comments last night

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The truth is all the whinging/mind games don't matter a ****. The best team wins the league, and managerial comments from either side won't play a part in it at all. If they did, Cork would win everything as Caulfield is the biggest whinger of them all.

Did you see the full interview. He was asked about Cork never just brought them up!

[Ezeikial]

Your post doesn't acknowledge this and gives a misleading view of the opinion of Dundalk fans.

I'm afraid that is a re-occuring issue. Trolls regularly misrepresent stuff, for example:




There's no argument, just some Dundalk folk trying to pass the blame for Wexford getting shafted.

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

Cork fans were worried the game woudlnt be postponed and we would have to play without two of our better players. We thought the fact that it might cause problems for Dundalk would be an added bonus but was not our primary goal. It didnt work out that way, no big deal.

The sympathy for Wexford is not faux. Interesting that only Dundalk fans, and a few Bohs fans, don't see the fixture movement as unfair to Wexford. The Wexford fans on here aren't happy either.

Just think how you would feel if one of your fixtures was moved to make way for another teams game.

It happens every year with the cup semi finals

[oriel]

I think Dundalk should definitely have made better use of mid week dates in May and tried to bring forward at least one game from later in the season. I'm sure with proper notice, the clubs in question would have had no problems agreeing to, and especially for the other clubs in Europe as it would have cleared their date also.

The Rovers home match would have been one example, both knew their Euro dates in advance, the July fixture could have been brought forward.

[brendy_éire]

Is 48 hours not Sunday? ???

With the first leg of the play-off final on the Monday. Simply can't be done. (unless everyone else finishes on the Friday, but I assume everyone has to play the final match at the same time)

[Pablo Escobar]

Sean Maguire scored a penalty for Ireland tonight. Don't tell Stephen Kenny!

[White Horse]

Sean Maguire scored a penalty for Ireland tonight. Don't tell Stephen Kenny!

Do Cork get any points for it?

[Pablo Escobar]

Do Cork get any points for it?

Unfortunately not. I'm just glad we got the game called off. Who else would have had to take all our penalties?

[nigel-harps1954]

What does it do for the coefficient?

[Charlie Darwin]

Sean Maguire scored a penalty for Ireland tonight. Don't tell Stephen Kenny!
How are the crisps in Waterford?

[Ezeikial]

Positive attitude from Stephen O'Donnell on fixture congestion



Friday’s match marked the start of a gruelling schedule that will see Dundalk play, at the very least, another 15 times between now and the end of October but O’Donnell said that it was a challenge he was looking forward to.

“There’s no point us talking about the schedule,” he said. “We just need to get it done. What’s the point in us talking about it?

“We’re more than capable of playing twice a week with the squad we have so there’s no point in moaning. That’s the way it is. We just need to get it done.

“Obviously the season could be scheduled better but that’s the way it is. You ask yourself would you rather be out of Europe and the answer to that is definitely no. It is what it is so we will have no excuses on that front.”

https://medium.com/@McLaughlinGavin/odonnell-bohs-can-have-no-complaints-faed6796b7f0#.5fizdffgv

[nigel-harps1954]

Suggestions that Sligo v Harps may be on next Saturday.

[Mr A]

If they're more than capable of playing twice a week why not keep playing league fixtures during the early Euro rounds...

[outspoken]

Longford v Bray rescheduled for next Saturday 7-30

[harps1954]

Suggestions that Sligo v Harps may be on next Saturday.

Have heard that Harps will be playing Dundalk on Monday 12th September (if Dundalk don't have a Cup replay). so more likely we will play Sligo on Friday night this week than Saturday night. Sligo, though, don't want to play on Friday for some reason.

[Martinho II]

Longford v Bray rescheduled for next Saturday 7-30

wot about the harps game this Friday??? not a hope of goin to rescheduled game..

[redobit]

Have heard that Harps will be playing Dundalk on Monday 12th September (if Dundalk don't have a Cup replay). so more likely we will play Sligo on Friday night this week than Saturday night. Sligo, though, don't want to play on Friday for some reason.

Saturday night works best for us. No reason we should change.

[nigel-harps1954]

wot about the harps game this Friday??? not a hope of goin to rescheduled game..

That's in two weeks. Cup weekend next weekend.


Saturday night works best for us. No reason we should change.

Normally, yes, but this is a rearranged fixture and has to suit both teams schedules so surely there's wiggle room?

[MattB11]

Friday makes sense, can't be expected to play on the Saturday and the Monday

[redobit]

Play Dundalk on Tuesday.

[total hoofball]

Problem with that though Dundalk play Europa League game on the Thursday!

Sligo should count themselves lucky that they can rearrange a cancelled home fixture immediately for a Friday night

[nigel-harps1954]

Apparently both clubs have agreed game for Saturday night according to Donegal Democrat.

That means Harps will have to play Saturday against Sligo and Monday against Dundalk again.

[Yossarian]

Dundalk v Rovers will take place in Oriel on Tuesday 20th September. 7:05 kick off aswell,which is a pain, as the game will be on RTE 2.

[MattB11]

Sligo, Harps set for Tuesday 27th September

[nigel-harps1954]

Really struggling with this one. Why could the game not have been played Friday night? Surely Friday suits Sligo better than a Tuesday night?

Harps now will have 6 matches inside 19 days. Stephen Kenny isn't the only one with problems.

[total hoofball]

Really struggling with this one. Why could the game not have been played Friday night? Surely Friday suits Sligo better than a Tuesday night?
Bizarre call by Sligo. Better home gate on a Friday night over a Tuesday night (also a Champions League match night) and they have set themselves up for 3 games in the space of 6 days that week? Don't get it

[Nesta99]

So Cauldfield has just said that fixtures were cancelled on them and that it didnt suit!!!???!

[El-Pietro]

So Cauldfield has just said that fixtures were cancelled on them and that it didnt suit!!!???!

I think his point is obvious. We would rather have played both games with our full squad. Unfortunately we couldn't do that so we had no choice but to postpone the games. Hopefully that puts to bed the "theory" that we only did it to mess with Dundalk.

[jinxy lilywhite]

Balls it was designed to compact more games in dundalk as a consequence of it happening.
From watching cork destroy rovers and hit near 20 goals in 4 games I am delighted they tried to give us a night off last week.

[El-Pietro]

Goood to see Paranoia is alive and well in Louth. Jim Corr isn't alone up there.

[Nesta99]

I think his point is obvious. We would rather have played both games with our full squad. Unfortunately we couldn't do that so we had no choice but to postpone the games. Hopefully that puts to bed the "theory" that we only did it to mess with Dundalk.

It isnt tough! He said the fixtures were cancelled 'on us'. and that it 'didnt suit' him. I dont particularly care what the reasons were whether it is gamesmanship or not. But trying to read some cryptic message, between the line stuff in what Caulfield said - claiming what he was saying was not what he was saying!!?? That is not miles off paranoia your self EP.

[jinxy lilywhite]

Goood to see Paranoia is alive and well in Louth. Jim Corr isn't alone up there.

Being paranoid doesn't mean you are wrong though :p

[ger121]

Being paranoid doesn't mean you are wrong though :p

Who said that!!!! :p

[White Horse]

Goood to see Paranoia is alive and well in Louth. Jim Corr isn't alone up there.

Speaking of which:

John Caulfield: "Its been frustrating from our point of view that the league let Dundalk play games ahead of us. We found it difficult to get in close to them. People want to see a title run in and there's nowhere around Europe where a league would allow teams to get in ahead of everyone else."

[Mr A]

Can't we just agree that both Kenny and Caulfield talk a lot of crap?

[Real ale Madrid]

Being paranoid doesn't mean you are wrong though :p

They are not all out to get us. Well except for one person and its not who you think.

[Nesta99]

Speaking of which:

John Caulfield: "Its been frustrating from our point of view that the league let Dundalk play games ahead of us. We found it difficult to get in close to them. People want to see a title run in and there's nowhere around Europe where a league would allow teams to get in ahead of everyone else."

No! games in hand dont happen in other leagues John?!!?? Have a look at the they way fixtures pan out for the World Club competitor from Europe during that tournament or after a persistent spell of snow in the north of say England when the southern clubs fulfill their fixtures. This season Cork had more games played at one point. Also cork did cancel 2 games and Dundalk pressed ahead with refixtures and put the points on the board. The gamble didnt pay off for Cork s they are under the pressure of winning games in hand. Lets not forget how different the table would look of Cork had picked up points as Dundalk went on a winless streak and Cork failed to capitalise so could be ahead with games in hand but I am very sure he would be concerned about the match schedule then!

[Lim till i die]

John Caulfield there, blaming the FAI for cork going six months without scoring a goal earlier in the season.

Best part is, it will be swallowed whole on Leeside.