Limerick Desmond League 2013/14

[hulk]

Ya I agree notaclue, the desmond website is getting worse each year. The schoolboys website is much better. They haven't updated the cup draws in years which is ridiculous and the fixtures can be very slow to go up. I also think the league fixtures could be planned and posted earlier to give people a chance to plan their weekends in advance, I know things might change with games being called off and replays but they could be posted as provisional a week earlier than they currently are.

[fanaticfan]

Its the worst website iv ever seen for a soccer league. Only good things about it are the fixtures and league tables updated every week. Thats about it

[sexyfootball]

Lads calm down, its not run in the best possible way but we still get our league tables and results updated each week. Obviously it could be run a bit more efficiently with regards to Cup fixtures etc but maybe there isn't enough interest in it or maybe its too costly! Honestly though how many people do ye think use the website? I do alright but just for results and standings.

[fanaticfan]

Then they should just give it to someone that would be interested in running the website better.

[sportsfanatic]

Anyone know why the NCW and Ballingarry game is called off tomorrow ??

[Johnnie C]

Heard a rum
our that refs are refusing to do Ncw a,b and youths games due to player behaviour.
Reidy semi: Feenagh 3 Abbey b 0

[fanaticfan]

Athea 3-2 Glin
Rathkeale 5-3 Ncw Rovers B
Ncw Rovers A 2-3 St Itas

[churchtownroad]

old mill 0-2 kildimo

[snafu]

Heard a rum
our that refs are refusing to do Ncw a,b and youths games due to player behaviour.
Reidy semi: Feenagh 3 Abbey b 0

Can anyone confirm this?

[jackass]

Ya it's true heard ncw b team are at fault, dey caused some trouble at a league match away to feenagh, gave seanie hartnett foul abuse and threw stones off feenagh players

[last man back]

Ya it's def true, I spoke to a few ncw members over the weekend about it. Nobody seems to know how long this is going to last, I'm sure it's the last thing the league need after all the cancelations

[Abbeyman]

Throwing stones at feenagh players? ..what sort of crew are playing with NCW B??..crazy carry on

[CraftyToePoke]

:(What's happening with fixtures? I went to Aughinish on Sunday morning only to find the place locked up. Fair enough, I then said to myself that Creeves v Carrig was a good alternative so I arrived in Newbridge at 11.25 and once again the place was deserted. I gave up and went home and checked the Observer and the league website fixtures. I later heard that Creeves had caused an upset. I also heard that Shannonside v Athea had been refixed since Friday evening. Any wonder that football fans give up going, when the League don't bother letting people know what's happening. I mean why cant the PRO or Fixtures Sec post updates on their website on Sunday morning?:(

You are 100% right in this, it's a joke. I live away and love to take in a game when I'm around but have given up on its & accuracy of Weekly Observer info too. Messed around by it too many times.


Lads calm down, its not run in the best possible way but we still get our league tables and results updated each week. Obviously it could be run a bit more efficiently with regards to Cup fixtures etc but maybe there isn't enough interest in it or maybe its too costly! Honestly though how many people do ye think use the website? I do alright but just for results and standings.

Fixtures and venues and KO times, in this day and age with the gadgets and technology available need to be right, no reason they shouldn't be. Costly ? You can update a Web/FB page off most mobile phones these days. As I said above, I use it pre games, or I'd like to, it's fine if you are in the know or with a club, but it shouldn't be assumed everyone is. The credibility of the league can't be being helped by this every week.

[Have It]

Ya it's def true, I spoke to a few ncw members over the weekend about it. Nobody seems to know how long this is going to last, I'm sure it's the last thing the league need after all the cancelations
Ya I see all fixtures involving newcastle this weekend has TBA written where the referees name should be. so looks like its still not sorted. personally I don't see how they can resolve the issues because if referees don't feel safe doing games then that's a very big problem indeed

[snafu]

I feel sorry to a lot of the NCW players but there is and has been for a while a rough element about some of their teams.

While I wouldnt care what they get up down the alleyways of NCW on a Saturday night its when they start to bring that behavior onto the field that trouble starts.

The club should come down hard on players who threw stones at Feenagh players (if that is true), I'm talking a 3 year ban.

It is also down to the league to come down hard on the club, throw the club(s) out of the league for the rest of the season.

While no club is without a few bad eggs, a lot of stories about NCW seem to pop up.

[last man back]

Were croom united thrown out of district league not so long ago for a similar incident

[Langerdan007]

Were croom united thrown out of district league not so long ago for a similar incident

I wouldn't see the League having the balls to do something as drastic as throwing them out - then is it just the offending B team or all NCW teams - I see it being a decision TOO big for them!!!!

[fanaticfan]

The league should do something about that. Ban all the players that did it. It would be unfair on the other players if they were thrown out. Give those people a serious ban like 3-5 years ban. As someone said you would feel sorry for the innocent people in the team and for the other ncw teams whos games have been called off.

[Soreloser]

The Feenagh thing might not be the only reason,wasn't there an incident where stones were thrown at a ref's car in the carpark after a NCW B team game a while ago as well. Hopefully the club and the league will see sense and look after the fellas that are causing this. No ref.No game.

[Yorkshire rose]

It is with great sadness that I've learned of the passing of Bernie "Bobo" McNamara. Bobo was a true gentleman both on and off the pitch. a stalwart of the Adare teams of the late 70's and early 80's. He also played with Kildimo and Kilfinny. He captained Adare to their first ever trophy back in 1976 and was an example to all with his gentle approach and fantastic wit. A pleasure to have played with him as a youngster. RIP.

[Magpie75]

Just to clarify a few things regarding NCW AFC. There has been no proof of any NCW player throwing stones at an opposition player or a referee. Some poor judgement from a couple of B Team player bad mouthing a ref has occurred and the club was fined 100 euro (which it paid) by the Desmond League. The reason that all NCW games were called off last weekend was because the refs themselves felt that the fine from the Desmond league wasn't severe enough and refused to ref NCW AFC games because of it. This is now an issue between the Desmond League and the refs and NCW AFC players are suffering because of it. I firmly believe that refs (good or bad) should always be shown respect because we have no game without them but I feel that the action they took last weekend was over the top.

[twotouch]

Any update on the NCW games for d weekend ???

[sexyfootball]

They're fixed alright but there's no referee down for the junior fixtures... not sure what to make of that! On another note if this rain keeps going and there are more fixtures off we might as well hang up the boots.
How is it that rhyme goes again? 'Rain Rain go away, come again... actually don't come again... just F@%K off'!!

[churchtownroad]

Askeaton 0-1 Old Mill Division 1

[jackass]

No proof? U obviously don't go to ncw b matches magpie75 !!!

[walkover]

Ncw Rovers 4 - 0 Glantine in the Reidy Cup semi final today

[last man back]

I heard the PRO mention on the radio that shannonside will meet abbeyfeale in the 3rd rd of desmond cup after there victory today. Did anyone hear the full draw

[twotouch]

is there a full list of results from the weekend ???? and fixtures for next week available yet

[ferry_ranger]

Division 3

Ferry Rangers 2 - 3 NewcastleWest B

[fanaticfan]

Richard Hogan Cup Semi Final (extra time & penalties)
Creeves Celtic 1-2 Newcastle West B

Saturday 22nd March
Richard Hogan Cup Semi Final (extra time & penalties)
Granagh Utd 2-2 Abbeyfeale Utd B granagh win 4-2 on pens

Saturday 22nd March
Desmond Youths Cup Quarter Finals
Newcastle West 2-1 Glantine

Limerick Desmond U-17s Cup 1st Round (extra time & penalties)
Ballingarry ?-? Abbeyfeale Utd

Limerick Desmond U-17s Cup Quarter Finals (extra time & penalties)
Killeaney ?-? Rathkeale
Askeaton ?-? Ferry Rangers

Youths Division 1
Broadford Utd ?-? Newcastle West Rovers

Youths Division 2
Creeves Celtic ?-? Granagh Utd

Sunday 23rd March
Weekly Observer Desmond Cup 2nd Round (extra time & penalties)
Shannonside FC 2-1 Killeaney
Kilcornan 0-5 Newcastle West
Broadford Utd B 1-5 Rathkeale B

Reidy Cup Semi Final (extra time & penalties)
Newcastle West Rovers 4-0 Glantine

Weekly Observer Division 2 League Cup Quarter Final (extra time & penalties)
Athea Utd B ?-? Adare Utd

Weekly Observer Premier Division
Rathkeale 1-1 Abbeyfeale Utd
Carrig Celtic 2-2 Broadford Utd
Athea Utd 1-1 Ballingarry

Weekly Observer Division 1
St. Itas 1-1 Pallaskenry
Askeaton 0-1 Old Mill
Kildimo Utd 2-1 Breska Rovers

Weekly Observer Division 2
Ballysteen 1-2 Creeves Celtic
Ferry Rangers 2-3 Newcastle West B

Weekly Observer Division 3
Creeves Celtic B ?-? Shountrade
Newcastle West Rovers B ?-? Shannonside FC B
Ballingarry B ?-? Glin Rovers B
Feenagh B ?-? Carrig Celtic B
Knockaderry 3-6 Bally Rovers
Bally rovers are promoted to division 2

They are the results I know

[fanaticfan]

Thursday 27th March
Weekly Observer Premier Division League Cup Quarter Final (extra time & penalties)
Abbeyfeale Utd V Newcastle West 730 (P. O’Connor)

Sunday 30th March
Weekly Observer Desmond Cup 3rd Round (extra time & penalties)
Shountrade V Pallaskenry 1100 (S. Hartnett)
Rathkeale V Athea Utd 1130 (P. O’Brien)
Knockaderry V Feenagh 1130 (C. Dalton)
Creeves Celtic V Rockhill Rovers 1130 (J. Molyneaux)
Abbeyfeale Utd B V Rathkeale B 230 (E. Barrett)

Weekly Observer Division 2 League Cup Quarter Final (extra time & penalties)
Granagh Utd V Kilcornan 230 (J. Molyneaux)

Weekly Observer Premier Division
Glin Rovers V Ballingarry 1130 (J. Roche)
Broadford Utd V Shannonside FC 1130 (T. Fitzmaurice)

Weekly Observer Division 1
St. Itas V Kildimo Utd 1130 (P. King)
Breska Rovers V Killeaney 1130 (P. Manning)
Glantine V Old Mill 1130 (D. Wallace)

Weekly Observer Division 2
Ballysteen V Newcastle West B 230 (P. O’Brien)
Athea Utd B V Ferry Rangers 230 (B. Nash)

Weekly Observer Division 3
Shannonside FC B V Creeves Celtic B 230 in Shanagolden (P. O’Donnell)
Feenagh B V Newcastle West Rovers B 230 (D. Wallace)
St. Itas B V Broadford Utd B 230 in Broadford (C. Dalton)

Weekly Observer Division 3 League Cup Group B (90 min)
Carrig Celtic B V Ballingarry B 2pm (J. Roche)

Friday 4th April
Reidy Cup Final (extra time & penalties)
Feenagh V Newcastle West Rovers 730, Clounreask

Saturday 5th April
Youths Division 2 League Cup Final (extra time & penalties)
Creeves Celtic V Rathkeale 230, Clounreask
Youths Division 3 League Cup Final (extra time & penalties)
Ferry Rangers V Pallaskenry 530,Clounreask

[Horan01]

Just to clarify a few things regarding NCW AFC. There has been no proof of any NCW player throwing stones at an opposition player or a referee. Some poor judgement from a couple of B Team player bad mouthing a ref has occurred and the club was fined 100 euro (which it paid) by the Desmond League. The reason that all NCW games were called off last weekend was because the refs themselves felt that the fine from the Desmond league wasn't severe enough and refused to ref NCW AFC games because of it. This is now an issue between the Desmond League and the refs and NCW AFC players are suffering because of it. I firmly believe that refs (good or bad) should always be shown respect because we have no game without them but I feel that the action they took last weekend was over the top.

The Desmond League have lost one of the best refs in the league as a result of all this carry on, Donie O'Gorman resigned last Friday, he felt very strongly about this incident and was disgusted with how the DL have handled it. €200 fine reduced down to €100 on appeal, bit of a soft fine if whats being reported did actually happen. Hopefully it gets sorted soon. Refs down for this weekends games so might be alright.

[fourfour3]

magpie 75 i would agree with you that it hasn't been proven but why would referees make this up.donie o'gorman has retired on the strength of it.just seems odd this kind of reaction from the refs if its only verbal abuse.i'm sure they've heard all that before.

[fanaticfan]

Donie o gorman has retired?? Best referee in the league for years and it was proven when he was the referee in the fai junior cup final few years back...

[Johnnie C]

I was at the Feenagh v NCW B game. The stones were thrown at the Feenagh dressing room (container), narrowly missing a few lads who were standing beside it. The ref got a lot of abuse as he left the field, particularly from one guy who followed him nearly as far as the gate to the road, same guy was also roaring at Feenagh players and spectators. At the corresponding game in NCW earlier in the season, stones were thrown at the ref's vehicle as he left. Surprised it has taken this long for things to come to a head with this team, as quite a number of them have being trying to intimidate refs and opposition players for a number of seasons now.

[ferry_ranger]

I was at the Feenagh v NCW B game. The stones were thrown at the Feenagh dressing room (container), narrowly missing a few lads who were standing beside it. The ref got a lot of abuse as he left the field, particularly from one guy who followed him nearly as far as the gate to the road, same guy was also roaring at Feenagh players and spectators. At the corresponding game in NCW earlier in the season, stones were thrown at the ref's vehicle as he left. Surprised it has taken this long for things to come to a head with this team, as quite a number of them have being trying to intimidate refs and opposition players for a number of seasons now.


I suppose it doesn't matter a whole pile but any idea what it was all over? What was the final score of that game?

[fanaticfan]

Were ye not playing ncw the weekend ferry ranger?? Were they up to their same tricks haha

[Have It]

Donie o gorman has retired?? Best referee in the league for years and it was proven when he was the referee in the fai junior cup final few years back...
Agreed, Donie is one of the finest refs around and well respected by players,managers and supporters. An awful disgrace it has come to this.

[ferry_ranger]

Were ye not playing ncw the weekend ferry ranger?? Were they up to their same tricks haha

Yep Ferry played them, I wasn't at it myself but heard it went off without any bust ups or fighting anyway! If the above is true and stones and were thrown then a 100euro fine is farcical.

[sexyfootball]

Is that true about Donie O'Gorman? What a shame if it is, in fairness hes a great ref! Must have been pretty terrible what happened, for him to take such a drastic step.

[Johnnie C]

I suppose it doesn't matter a whole pile but any idea what it was all over? What was the final score of that game?

Feenagh player got injured, ball kicked out, ball kicked back to NCW keeper, Feenagh player ran towards keeper, wouldn't have stopped his clearance though, before he got any way near the keeper he was manhandled to the ground, free kick awarded to Feenagh which they scored from to leave final score 2-2.

[sexyfootball]

Sure why was he running towards the keeper?? I know there's no rule but sportsmanship dictates, you pass the ball back, clap, play on! I can see why the N.C.W players weren't best pleased but by the sounds of it the ref had no option but to award the free kick... hardly his fault.
This will rumble on for a while yet! Will it have any effect on the Hogan Cup Final? 3 officials and all that...

[fanaticfan]

I agree with you there sexyfootball. Shouldn't have ran towards the keeper if the ball was kicked out for an injured feenagh but as sexyfootball said the referee had to give the free kick if the player was fouled . Why would it have an effect on the hogan cup final?

[Johnnie C]

Sure why was he running towards the keeper?? I know there's no rule but sportsmanship dictates, you pass the ball back, clap, play on! I can see why the N.C.W players weren't best pleased but by the sounds of it the ref had no option but to award the free kick... hardly his fault.
This will rumble on for a while yet! Will it have any effect on the Hogan Cup Final? 3 officials and all that...

As you said, ref was completely blameless, had to give a free. As I said, the Feenagh player wasn't going to impede the keeper's clearance, he was running at the keeper from an angle when he was dragged down.

[jackass]

The ball past 2 ncw defenders who could have got it if they tried but were wasting time so he had every right to go for it

[sexyfootball]

The only reason I mentioned the Hogan Cup final is N.C.W. are in it, will there be any issue with regards to officials? There's usually 4 for finals isn't there? Maybe some of them may feel like sticking by there fellow referee Donie O'Gorman, or has the issue re refs been resolved?
I know the refs aren't always right or even mediocre in some cases...!! But as Magpie said without them we'd have no games. They deserve some bit of respect from players and if incidents like this reoccur I wouldn't blame any man for walking away!

[Horan01]

The only reason I mentioned the Hogan Cup final is N.C.W. are in it, will there be any issue with regards to officials? There's usually 4 for finals isn't there? Maybe some of them may feel like sticking by there fellow referee Donie O'Gorman, or has the issue re refs been resolved?
I wouldn't say the issue has been resolved, the DL are still investigating the Feenagh inisident but the referee's have been told by their board that they cannot boycott games so like they did last weekend they will continue to ref the games from here on in. They also have a meeting tonight between themselves and their hoping they can get Donie O'Gorman to change his mind, that remains to be seen.

[twotouch]

Any result or match report from the game last nite ???

[fanaticfan]

I heard Abbeyfeale won 2-1. Dunno goal scorers of both sides but just heard the result

[fanaticfan]

Broadford 4-1 shannonside..
.ballingarry 4-2 glin ..

rathkeale 4-1 athea (desmond cup)