Limerick Desmond League 2013/14

[Have It]

Abbey beat broadford 2-0
Rathkeale top by one point now

[twotouch]

Any1 have the correct score of the abbey broadford game... Heard both scores from different people this morning

[fanaticfan]

Broadford drew 2-2 last night. They were down 2-0 and got two goals to draw. Rathkeale 3-2 Newcastle. Rathkeale went up 2-0 through alan o shea and gary enright, ncw levelled through adam collins and a screamer from mark doherty. Rathkeale got the winner from a penalty in the last minute. Took the penalty and it was saved only it to be retaken because a ncw player ran into the box... glin lost 4-0 to ballingarry which puts glin in trouble. Rathkeale vs Broadford should be a cracker of a game next weekend. I think rathkeale will win the league

[Have It]

I heard 2 nil and when I checked official desmond league tables they had Rathkeale a point ahead and result 2 nil abbey. its been corrected since. must have been 2 late goals

[snafu]

Premier:
Carrig 1-1 NCW
Glin 5-2 Abbey

Div 1:
Askeaton 1-1 Breska
Glantine 1-4 NCW Rovers
Rathkeale B 1-1 St Itas

Div 2:
Creeves 1-5 NCW B

Div3(A):
Broadford B 1-1 Creeves B
Feenagh B 1-1 Glin B
Rovers B 1-1 Knockaderry

Div3(B):
Bally Rovers 9-1 Carrig B
Shauntrade 16-1 St Itas B
Shannonside B 1-1 Ballingarry B

Surprising that Glin beat Abbeyfeale, Id presume that Glin were too physical for Abbeyfeale.

Some weird scorelines in Div3(B), I'm hoping that Shauntrade scoreline is a misprint

[walkover]

Newcastle West Rovers are Division One Champions, with two games to go!!

[sexyfootball]

Some weekend in the Premier... Broadford come from 2-0 down late on to get a point at Abbey & Rathkeale beat N.C.W with a late penalty after being 2-0 up. This Friday nights game is nicely set up now. The great escape is on for Glin now too after that win against Abbey!!
N.C.W Rovers have won Div.1, its all about who'll join them next season in the Premier, it's between Kildimo & Killeaney, I have a feeling that most of the teams in the Premier would prefer to playing in Knockdown next year!!
Div.2 is goin to go all the way too, Feenagh, Abbey B & N.C.W B all there, should be a great finish to the season.

[jackass]

The desmond league website is gone beyond a joke now.Still no fixtures for the weekend and cup competitions havent being updated in over a year

[fanaticfan]

Glin are going to be relegated to division 1 I think. Dont think there will be a repeat like last year. Im sure every team would prefer to be playing against killeaney instead of kildimo

[last man back]

I think the div 3 league cup groups are decided on goal difference,hence the scorelines teams not willing to blow up early

[Johnnie C]

That 16-1 scoreline is correct as it was given as a result in The Irish Examiner yesterday. The worrying thing is it might still have been blown up early though.

[Cruyff]

St Itas B were going to give a walkover but shountrade begged them to play because they needed the goal difference to finish top, so I think ita's played with 8 or 9 players. Needless to say their goal difference has been boosted adequately.

[fanaticfan]

Athea 3-3 Newcastle West
Ballingarry 1-1 Abbeyfeale

[sportsfanatic]

Abbeyfeale look to be finishing around 3rd or 4th last, i remember reading at the start of the year that Frank Nelligan saying that he tipped them for the Premier???

[Langerdan007]

Abbeyfeale look to be finishing around 3rd or 4th last, i remember reading at the start of the year that Frank Nelligan saying that he tipped them for the Premier???

People dont get very far listening seriously to Nelligan!

[fanaticfan]

Nelligan hasn't a clue.tips teams to win and then they lose. In fairness are having a good cup run in the league cup and desmond cup

[sportsfanatic]

True, I agree with you there. Is the Broadford and Rathkeale game changed aswell Friday night?

[sexyfootball]

Being a bit harsh there on Frank Nelligan lads, no? To be honest I thought they would be a lot better placed in the league than they are too. Its like the season 2 years ago where Shannonside had an average year in the league but won the League Cup & Desmond Cup.
Looks like that match has been changed alright, don't know why though. I reckon Rathkeale will do it!

[sportsfanatic]

I'd say it has been changed due to NCW and Abbey have so many games in hand when most other teams have only two games left, may want to give them a chance to catch up

[sexyfootball]

Possibly alright they have only 14 played. Was looking at the remaining fixtures for Glin & Shannonside, Glin have Athea & Rockhill While Shannonside have Ballingarry & Abbeyfeale (I think they're their remaining fixtures anyway). Glin could still stay up yet!

[Good Shout]

16.1 ? What kind of a message is that to send out. Goal difference should never count in junior football. No lines men to call offside and referees trying to call it from the half way line etc. League cup competitions played on a league basis have always thrown embarrassing scorelines and deciding who plays in a final on this system is totally unfair. If the LDFL decide to go with this format again why not decide all drawn game with a penalty shoot out this to decide the head to head shjloud two teams end on the same number of points. And done say that penalty shootouts are a lottery. Penalty taking is a skill.

[fanaticfan]

Ya you are right there. A league format for the league cup is a joke alright. A team conceding 16 goals is embarassing enough for them to go through.

[Horan01]

I'd say it has been changed due to NCW and Abbey have so many games in hand when most other teams have only two games left, may want to give them a chance to catch up

Possibly alright they have only 14 played. Was looking at the remaining fixtures for Glin & Shannonside, Glin have Athea & Rockhill While Shannonside have Ballingarry & Abbeyfeale (I think they're their remaining fixtures anyway). Glin could still stay up yet!

Reason it has been changed I'm told is due to some DSL rule where both 2nd last fixtures of the season and last last fixtures have to be played on the same time/day where teams have something to play for (i.e League title or Relegation).

[Johnnie C]

People being harsh on league PRO, think he does a great job, gives great coverage to league. He picks the wrong team to win a game, big deal, it's all about opinions. And as stated Abbey in two cup finals so they're obviously a half decent outfit.

[fanaticfan]

Rathkeale vs Broadford is on sunday morning I heard

[fanaticfan]

Broadford 1-0 Rathkeale
Rockhill 0-0 Abbeyfeale
Newcastle 5-1 Carrig
Killeaney 8-1 Rathkeale B
Abbeyfeale B 4-3 Adare Utd

[sportsfanatic]

Wasn't being disrespectful to Frank, absolute gent and a long term servant to the leagues. Just pointing out that it's surprising that Abbeyfeale are actually in a relegation battle when at the start if the league were tipped for the league and actually had a great pre season win over st Brendan's from Kerry beating them 4 or 5:1. Great to get into to cup finals though :)

[fanaticfan]

True sportsfanatic. I agree with you. Abbeyfeale disappointing in the league this year but going great in the domestic cups. Another poor result this morning for them

[fanaticfan]

Good result for broadford yesterday against rathkeale. All they need is a draw away against newcastle west while rathkeale have to beat carrig away.

The thought the rule was that all teams have to play their last two games ob the last weekend but rathkeale and broadford have 1 game left and rest have 2

[Good Shout]

When you look at the catchment area that Abbeyfeale United have you would have to feel that it is more than a disappointment that they don't challenge for the title every season. Who is their nearest serious competitor? A one club town. Big town, big pick and is it 2 or 3 league titles to show in 30 years? Can one imagine if one of the less fashionable clubs had their resourses what they might do? Does Broadford United have the same catchment area? Does Ballingarry? The cup is a fine competition to win but its the league that defines the best team.

As for Frank Nelligan. The man's a credit to the league, does a fine job for little thanks and without him our league wouldent get a mention on Sundays.

[sexyfootball]

Its true though, I thought the same aswell! Rathkeale should beat Carrig, Broadford won't get anything easy from Newcastle either!! Was anyone at the Broadford V Rathkeale match the weekend?

[sportsfanatic]

Very true good shout. Abbey are a good side but it's weird how they are not challenging for the title every year with he size of the catchment area. They seem to be mid table with teams like Ballongarry who have about a quarter of their catchment area often finishing ahead of them. Great finish to the league this year, I feel that Broadford will have a tough game against NCW and Carrig have been very good this year so won't make it easy on Rathkeale as they are trying to finish 3rd

[Cruyff]

Excellent point Good Shout... Only thing I would argue is the size of Broadford's catchment area, every bit as big when you think about it, people forget that, it should come as no surprise that Broadford are where they are at the moment given their pick.

[Cruyff]

Excellent point Good Shout... I would argue one point regarding the catchment area Broadford have, their catchment area is equally as big I would say, a lot of people don't realise the size of the area broadford are picking from, it should come as no surprise to anyone that they are where they are.

[fanaticfan]

Premier Division player of the year
Mickie Lyons (rathkeale)

1st division player of the year
Padraig Devine (ncw rovers)

2nd division player of the year
Chris Carey (Adare)

3rd division player of the year
Tim Frawley (Shountrade)

Merit award
Neily hogan

[sexyfootball]

Congrats to all the award winners!
Mikey Lyons a very deserving winner of the premier division player of the year, seen a few Rathkeale games this year, great player.
Padraig Devine good player also, very good on the ball & in the air.
Strange one in Div 2, admittedly I haven't seen Adare play but I thought it would've gone to a player for one of the teams towards the top i.e. Feenagh, Abbey B or NCW B.
Shountrade walked Div 3, again seen none of their matches either, apparently a good team should at least be Div 1.

[fanaticfan]

Agree with you there sexyfootball. All the players who won the Player of the years deserved them except for the division 2. Adare 3rd last in the league and won only 3 games. I would have gave it to an abbey b player. They are in the league cup final and haven't lost a league game all year.

[fanaticfan]

Should be an exciting weekend with the title decider going on. What way will it go lads?

[sexyfootball]

Like i've said previously Broadford won't get anything handy from N.C.W but I reckon the fact all they have to do is avoid defeat means they will get the point they need to win the league. Obviously it would be great if they lost and Rathkeale beat Carrig, so we could have a league play-off in Askeaton to watch! Whatever way it goes, its come down to the last game of the season, sure what more could you ask?!

[Notaclue]

Shannonside 3-3 Abbeyfeale United. Shannonside came from 3-0 down to get draw. Abbeyfeale now safe. I also heard that Glin Rovers were winning 2-1 at Athea United, so its possible that if they win at home on Sunday and Ballingarry beat Shannonside that there would be another relegation play-off at HQ.

[fanaticfan]

Shannonside 3-3 Abbeyfeale
Rockhill 0-1 Newcastle
Ballingarry 4-4 Carrig
Glin 2-1 Athea

Abbey beat granagh and crowned champions of division 2

[sexyfootball]

I went to the N.C.W v Broadford match Sunday morning 4-1 was a fair reflection of the game, Broadford played very well, even missed a penalty. N.C.W seemed to lose intersest after the first goal went in. Tossie Butler got a great 4th goal for them.
Congrats on winning the league Broadford!
Glin couldn't stage another great escape, down to Div 1 next season, they should come straight back up though.
Big win for Killeaney Sunday also, on the verge of promotion now after beating Kildimo 3-0 (score on the Desmond League website)
Desmond Cup is what its all about now.. N.C.W and Abbey, both have had poor seasons by their standards but i reckon its got the makings of a cracker of a final. I'm going to say N.C.W to win it 3-2.

[Johnnie C]

Broadford champs, Glin relegated after 17 seasons in Prem, Killeaney beat Kildimo 3-0 and Feenagh in pole position for promotion from Division 2, Abbey B Division 2 champs.

[Have It]

Anyone know who won the division 3 league cup final between Shountrade & Glin B I think it was. Can't see the result anywhere

[Have It]

ALL FIXTURES are subject to alteration until published in the Weekly Observer.

Friday 30th May
Weekly Observer Division 1
Kildimo Utd V Glantine 7pm (P. O’Brien)
St. Itas V Killeaney 7pm in Broadford (G. O’Connor)
Newcastle West Rovers V Pallaskenry 7pm (J. Molyneaux)
Rathkeale B V Askeaton 7pm (S. Hartnett)

Weekly Observer Division 2
Athea Utd B V Ballysteen 7pm (C. Dalton)
Abbeyfeale Utd B V Creeves Celtic 7pm (E. Barrett)
Granagh Utd V Newcastle West B 7pm (P. King)
Ferry Rangers V Adare Utd 7pm (D. Wallace)
Feenagh V Kilcornan 7pm (J. Roche)

Saturday 31st May
Weekly Observer Division 3 League Cup Final (extra time & penalties)
Glin Rovers B V Shountrade, 2pm, Clounreask, (B. Nash, T. Fitzmaurice, J. Molyneaux, 4th Official TBC)

Weekly Observer Desmond Cup Final (90 minutes)
Newcastle West V Abbeyfeale Utd, Clounreask, 7pm, (P. O’Connor, G. O’Connor, P. Manning, D. O’Gorman)

Wednesday 4th June
Weekly Observer Desmond Cup Final (extra time & penalties) (provisional fixture, if required
Newcastle West V Abbeyfeale Utd, Clounreask, 730pm, (P. O’Connor, G. O’Connor, P. Manning, D. O’Gorman)

Sunday 8th June
Weekly Observer Premier Division League Cup Final (extra time & penalties)
Abbeyfeale Utd V Carrig Celtic, 230, Clounreask, (L. O’Connor, P. O’Brien, P. Manning, 4th Official TBC)

[southern kid]

I can't believe they put the reply down for a Wednesday night , what about players working away an people like myself that would go an watch it if I was home from work, no thought went in to this in my opinion . And yes I kno it mite never matter as der cud be a result sat nite. Best of luck to both and here's hoping for a cracking final as last few have been drab affairs!! Just my opinion

[Langerdan007]

I can't believe they put the reply down for a Wednesday night , what about players working away an people like myself that would go an watch it if I was home from work, no thought went in to this in my opinion . And yes I kno it mite never matter as der cud be a result sat nite. Best of luck to both and here's hoping for a cracking final as last few have been drab affairs!! Just my opinion

On fixtures nothing surprises me - if it were to go to replay you'd imagine the crowd would be small on a Wed night.
TBF the league do what they like and have no regard really for smaller clubs in regard to fixtures!

Every year Abbey B are allowed to play 3-4 games until after xmas when all others have way more (This season I'm sure all other teams had at least 9 each played, some in double figures) - they are a good team but for the last 8-9 weeks of the season they get to play every week and most likely twice with Friday/Sunday games to try and catch up - easier to play themselves into a bit of form esp when some of the teams have maybe 1 game every 2/3 weeks after a long break for the bad weather, interest wanes HUGELY once teams have little to play for and GAA kicks in which effects many clubs and weakens many teams from March on (Knocka's W/O in the Desmond a case in point)

We got a league match fixed for a Thurs and when we contacted to say it was a load of BS coz of fellas working away and at college they said that's fine, arrange it when ye want but if ye dont play this Thurs "Player A" wont be able to play in yer league cup final the following Saturday as we'll be notifying ye of a suspension tomorrow!!! Thats what you're dealing with


fanaticfan
Agree with you there sexyfootball. All the players who won the Player of the years deserved them except for the division 2. Adare 3rd last in the league and won only 3 games. I would have gave it to an abbey b player. They are in the league cup final and haven't lost a league game all year.


See your point on this fanaticfan - one would have thought an Abbey player would have got it with their run to the title - maybe my point above might have had a baring - I'd have to check when I got the email about voting but I'd wonder if Abbey had even played all the teams in the division once never mind twice when voting happened
To be fair to the lad who won, we played Adare twice - he was up front - was fairly lively and put himself about for a young lad. I know when they sent out the list of nominees his was 1 of 2 names i'd recognized from the teams we'd played - voting can all over the place as you'd do well to know all the names - if they included pictures it would be easier associate players I would think, you'll always recognize a fella who played even if you dont know his name - I'm surprised you dont see more strange results, we'd a number of people who wanted to vote for a lad from Feenagh coz he'd the same name as one of our lads ;)

[sexyfootball]

Every year Abbey B are allowed to play 3-4 games until after xmas when all others have way more (This season I'm sure all other teams had at least 9 each played, some in double figures) - they are a good team but for the last 8-9 weeks of the season they get to play every week and most likely twice with Friday/Sunday games to try and catch up - easier to play themselves into a bit of form esp when some of the teams have maybe 1 game every 2/3 weeks after a long break for the bad weather, interest wanes HUGELY once teams have little to play for and GAA kicks in which effects many clubs and weakens many teams from March on (Knocka's W/O in the Desmond a case in point)
I'm surprised you dont see more strange results, we'd a number of people who wanted to vote for a lad from Feenagh coz he'd the same name as one of our lads ;)
Haha, thats hillarious, the last part!!
Also with regards to catching up with games you're right, it happens in most of the divisions to be fair, for teams struggling at the bottom they'd be hoping to be playing their last few games against mid-table teams who are safe with lads involved in other sports i.e. 'weakened' teams!
This Desmond Cup final better be good!!

[Langerdan007]

Haha, thats hillarious, the last part!!
Also with regards to catching up with games you're right, it happens in most of the divisions to be fair, for teams struggling at the bottom they'd be hoping to be playing their last few games against mid-table teams who are safe with lads involved in other sports i.e. 'weakened' teams!
This Desmond Cup final better be good!!

TBF we might have voted for him if the secretary hadnt taken the reins :)
Its like valuing the opinion of the manager of the Tuvalu National team in the voting for World Player of the Year!!!

Things might have gotten exacerbated this season with the long weather break but it's really annoying, I think we all know this time of year results in mid table can be "agreed" when teams are struggling for numbers and if things are tight at the top OR BOTTOM the team who is catching up I would say are at an advantage!

Although you're right it happens in all leagues I think its a big issue with the B teams though as although they aren't all entered in all the cups when their A teams are entered its considered a club entry and players from both are entitled to play so you find if a good premier side go deep in 3 or 4 cups their B team struggle getting games played - also has a knock on effect in the premier then with those teams having fewer games played but it might effect 5 or 6 teams in that division rather than 1.

[sexyfootball]

Things might have gotten exacerbated this season with the long weather break but it's really annoying, I think we all know this time of year results in mid table can be "agreed" when teams are struggling for numbers and if things are tight at the top OR BOTTOM the team who is catching up I would say are at an advantage!

Although you're right it happens in all leagues I think its a big issue with the B teams though as although they aren't all entered in all the cups when their A teams are entered its considered a club entry and players from both are entitled to play so you find if a good premier side go deep in 3 or 4 cups their B team struggle getting games played - also has a knock on effect in the premier then with those teams having fewer games played but it might effect 5 or 6 teams in that division rather than 1.

You talk an unbelievable amount of sense, its great to hear. Where's all the other banter, that's what these forums are for like... not just for fixtures etc.
The teams towards the bottom in those situations are most definitely at an advantage alright, it can be annoying if they have games in hand on teams who have the correct no. of fixtures played.
Anyways what are we all thinking about the Desmond Cup final Saturday night? I reckon N.C.W to retain it.