View Full Version : Patrick Bamford (F Leeds b.1993)
dr_peepee
07/03/2019, 9:41 PM
Always liked Clinton. I think he only sat on the fence for a few weeks, if I recall, after a couple of high profile FA Cup goals for Palace. But once he was onboard he was all in. Think he even went to watch some U21 games in Dalymount off his own back, when he was in the country with the Senior Squad.
dr_peepee
07/03/2019, 9:53 PM
I think though Bamford is in the Dean Kiely bracket. It might work given the paucity of options up front. But he wouldn’t be bothered if he was competing and loosing out too other quality strikers for game time.
Razors left peg
07/03/2019, 11:09 PM
Always liked Clinton. I think he only sat on the fence for a few weeks, if I recall, after a couple of high profile FA Cup goals for Palace. But once he was onboard he was all in. Think he even went to watch some U21 games in Dalymount off his own back, when he was in the country with the Senior Squad.
Yeah once he was in he was all in, became one of my favorite players
tetsujin1979
08/03/2019, 7:03 AM
Always liked Clinton. I think he only sat on the fence for a few weeks, if I recall, after a couple of high profile FA Cup goals for Palace. But once he was onboard he was all in. Think he even went to watch some U21 games in Dalymount off his own back, when he was in the country with the Senior Squad.
He did, I met himself and Damien Duff at a game in Dalymount once
DeLorean
08/03/2019, 9:35 AM
He was very highly thought of as a 16/17 year old, not sure he has pulled up many trees since but will be interesting to see how he goes.
He was the Championship player of the season at 21. A few poor career moves since compounded by some injuries.
Yep. His conduct hasn't been ideal, but we need him
It was looking a bit dodgy alright when Mick was struggling to make contact, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Hopefully just a breakdown in communication somewhere.
He always made it clear England was his number one choice, given what we've seen recently that's probably something to be embraced. His connection to us is still extremely strong.
I agree Del and willing to give him the benefit of the doubt too. Remember, this guy has been plagued with injuries over the last number of years and the apparent reticence to commit could be as much to do with his body/injury record and wanting to ensure he can handle it as it is to do with any issues with declaring for us, notwithstanding he has always indicated England would be his #1.
Olé Olé
08/03/2019, 3:06 PM
I would embrace him. He has stated that he feels a strong connection to Ireland and how glad his mother's side of the family would be. He has every right to throw his lot in with us and will do his best for us. I hadn't realise he was still just 25. He has plenty years to go for us.
dr_peepee
08/03/2019, 4:17 PM
He’ll be another Jon Macken
Olé Olé
08/03/2019, 4:38 PM
It hurts to say it but there was little buzz when Macken claimed. The buzz about Bamford shows the paucity of our options. But I would rate Bamford higher. He couldn't be a Macken anyway given our lack of options.
Main concern is his constant injuries. He is actually Leeds only fit striker at the moment so is guaranteed to start games - I wouldn't be surprised to see him pick up an another injury though.
Razors left peg
08/03/2019, 6:12 PM
They were briefly talking about Bamford on the Football Ramble podcast last week. Basically said he is possibly Darren Huckerby … too good for Championship, not good enough for Premiership
irishfan86
08/03/2019, 6:21 PM
Well he’s only played something like 30 games at Premier League level with poor teams (no service or support). I suppose the argument is that an elite player would overcome that — either way at age 25 way too early to write him off as “just” a Championship player.
Diggs246
09/03/2019, 2:14 PM
He just scored again
paul_oshea
11/03/2019, 2:52 PM
Kiely was never happy to be sitting on the bench for Ireland and always came across quite dedicated.
I think Bamford will settle in quite well assuming he doesn't get another big injury. I reckon he might get one before the June call up though. I've no problem with him coming in, he clearly is England first but he will give Ireland a good go giving his mothers side of the family and I'm sure it will bring him closer to his "Irishness" and relations.
Fergie's Son
13/03/2019, 6:41 PM
Kiely felt he was the better option than Given. For several seasons he was. Sitting on the bench frustrated him no end but he still showed up.
dr_peepee
13/03/2019, 8:56 PM
Dunno about the “still showing up”. Didn’t he have a strop or two. Then removed himself for selection whilst still playing in the top flight.
TrapAPony
14/03/2019, 8:13 PM
Put us off again until at least September.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/mick-mccarthy-suffers-setback-in-pursuit-of-englishborn-patrick-bamford-37914216.html
Diggs246
14/03/2019, 9:01 PM
Put us off again until at least September.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/mick-mccarthy-suffers-setback-in-pursuit-of-englishborn-patrick-bamford-37914216.html
I'm dissapointed McCarthy didn't tell him that his Irish career is over with immeadate effect.
Fizzer
14/03/2019, 9:43 PM
Yep,has he submitted his paperwork yet? I’d be surprised.He’s English and wants to play for England,good for him but at some point we have to grow a bit of dignity.Make a call on him now, issue a statement to say he’s asked us to hold off till September but we don’t fancy that and he won’t be considered again.It’ll put an end to this nonsense.The only reason that Bamford is stringing us along is to use it as leverage to try to get an England call-up.Guaranteed he’d take one English cap over 35 Irish ones.Its shameful for the FAI to not only permit,but actively facilitate this behavior.
jbyrne
14/03/2019, 10:04 PM
i hear bamford claims he wants to concentrate on his club career for now. this doesnt stack up as he wouldnt be available till our june games, long after the club season is over. there is no difference between making himself available in sept or june in relation to his club career. we should end our interest now
samhaydenjr
14/03/2019, 11:18 PM
Put us off again until at least September.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/mick-mccarthy-suffers-setback-in-pursuit-of-englishborn-patrick-bamford-37914216.html
Crikey, Patrick, strike while the iron is hot. By September we may not need you - right now we're missing Obafemi, Robinson and Keane through injury, probably Curtis also. McGoldrick and Maguire have yet to score for us but two games against Gibraltar might set them on their way. Collins will likely be playing in the Championship by September (maybe with a couple of international goals of his own under his belt). Hogan might find his form again. And one or more of Connolly, Parrott, Afolabi or Idah might break through by then
Razors left peg
15/03/2019, 7:23 AM
That should be the end of any discussion about him in an Irish shirt. Obviously has no interest and we should move on
Paddy Garcia
15/03/2019, 8:44 AM
Assume this does not prevent him from submitting the paperwork?
Olé Olé
15/03/2019, 9:07 AM
Scott Hogan did something similar, except delayed it over a far longer period.
Diggs246
15/03/2019, 9:08 AM
Assume this does not prevent him from submitting the paperwork?
Thats the point he is not going to submitt it, he isn't interested and neither should we
Murph 1
15/03/2019, 11:25 AM
Think we need to trust Mick on this, The Bamford saga has been going on for a long,long time now, Previous management regimes have spoken about the player and left it at that, Mick has spoken To the player and more importantly has been upfront with the Supporters about exactly where the matter rests, The Championship Season will be over in a couple of months, and we can expect Mick to clarify the situation then, Come September Patrick Bamford will either be on board or he will not. Mick McCarthy is no mug and will call this out the moment he sniffs any insincerity or dishonesty on the part of the player. Bamford has had a horrendous time with injuries and Mick is being understanding for the moment. This understanding wont last past September- of that Patrick Bamford can be in no doubt.
Diggs246
15/03/2019, 11:43 AM
Think we need to trust Mick on this, The Bamford saga has been going on for a long,long time now, Previous management regimes have spoken about the player and left it at that, Mick has spoken To the player and more importantly has been upfront with the Supporters about exactly where the matter rests, The Championship Season will be over in a couple of months, and we can expect Mick to clarify the situation then, Come September Patrick Bamford will either be on board or he will not. Mick McCarthy is no mug and will call this out the moment he sniffs any insincerity or dishonesty on the part of the player. Bamford has had a horrendous time with injuries and Mick is being understanding for the moment. This understanding wont last past September- of that Patrick Bamford can be in no doubt.
I think he would send in his forms to fifa now if he was serious
Razors left peg
15/03/2019, 3:23 PM
Concentrating on his club until end of season is fine.... but his club doesnt play in June and getting the paperwork sorted now if he was really interested would not distract him.
This guy is 25 years old, he should know at this point what he wants to do. My guess would be that he is waiting until end of season to see if Leeds get promoted. If he is scoring goals in the Premiership next season he is probably looking at Callum Wilson getting England call up and thinking he can do the same.
geysir
15/03/2019, 8:58 PM
That should be the end of any discussion about him in an Irish shirt. Obviously has no interest and we should move on
I'd agree, just move on and leave him be.
Eminence Grise
16/03/2019, 11:00 AM
We have to be firmer in these cases. More time? Sorry, not possible: you've had eight years as a pro to make up your mind. Have the paperwork done by such and such a date for the call-up. Otherwise, bye-bye.
And in this case, bye-bye.
Fizzer
16/03/2019, 12:26 PM
Yeah cut him loose and let him roll the dice with England.Didnt do Noble,Nolan and O’Hara any good.Poor oul Mick is getting ghosted by this kid,I wish the FAI would just grow a set and let him publicly declare that Bamford can shove it.
This kind of desperation on our part has to be demoralizing for the squad it really should be one of the greatest moments of a players life to be capped at senior level by their country,if it isn’t,then that’ll be because....it’s not their country.
paul_oshea
16/03/2019, 2:52 PM
I wouldn't worry about Bamford, he told Mick he would join up with the squad after the end of Leeds season.
samhaydenjr
16/03/2019, 8:23 PM
If he's putting the paperwork through but doesn't want to be picked until September, that would be acceptable (though not ideal). But if he isn't planning to even decide until then, then it's too late - by the time he's pickable it will be early 2020 and, if we qualify, I don't think he should go into the squad for the finals ahead of those who got us there. And by the time the Qatar 2022 qualifiers start, then there's a greater chance he won't be needed, with another season for those in the squad to get more established, and for a couple more youngsters to break through.
TrapAPony
09/04/2019, 8:25 PM
Two great goals from him tonight against Preston especially the first one. Hopefully, he does decide to play for us.
liamoo11
09/04/2019, 8:31 PM
Two great goals from him tonight against Preston especially the first one. Hopefully, he does decide to play for us.
Haven't seen this game if you had to choose would it be bamford or Maguire up front?
TrapAPony
09/04/2019, 8:32 PM
Haven't seen this game if you had to choose would it be bamford or Maguire up front?
Bamford all day long
Diggs246
09/04/2019, 8:59 PM
Two great goals from him tonight against Preston especially the first one. Hopefully, he does decide to play for us.
Unfortunately he is a tyre kicker, who has been blowing smoke up our ass for 3 years
Closed Account 2
09/04/2019, 9:06 PM
He looked unplayable tonight. Ran Preston ragged.
Cathalsmart
09/04/2019, 9:11 PM
Happy for him to come aboard if he is willing. Unless he is injured and the injury is confirmed by his club if he doesn’t show up in June than we should be done perusing him. Yes he is a good striker and yes he would have a good chance of starting for us but he is definitely not a good enough player for us to sell our soul chasing after.
Happy for him to come aboard if he is willing. Unless he is injured and the injury is confirmed by his club if he doesn’t show up in June than we should be done perusing him. Yes he is a good striker and yes he would have a good chance of starting for us but he is definitely not a good enough player for us to sell our soul chasing after.
As per MickMc back in March, September is the earliest that he will possibly join up with the squad. I am happy to give him until then and if he delays the good luck to him. Have always said, he would a super addition for us, would give us exactly what we need up front - a touch of class, good technique and a savvy finisher but if not on board in September then he can do one.
Cathalsmart
09/04/2019, 9:52 PM
If it’s out of his control than fair enough, no excuse after September though. It took forever for Hogan to come aboard so maybe this might go a similar direction.
liamoo11
09/04/2019, 10:08 PM
If it’s out of his control than fair enough, no excuse after September though. It took forever for Hogan to come aboard so maybe this might go a similar direction.
And now no one cares about Hogan but people were losing their reason when he wasn't on board straight away. We are a fickle bunch
Diggs246
09/04/2019, 10:23 PM
If it’s out of his control than fair enough, no excuse after September though. It took forever for Hogan to come aboard so maybe this might go a similar direction.
He has no excuse not to have sent the paperwork into FIFA already
samhaydenjr
10/04/2019, 1:48 AM
And now no one cares about Hogan but people were losing their reason when he wasn't on board straight away. We are a fickle bunch
That's because he's been passed in the ranking by McGoldrick, Robinson and Obafemi, three players who were All In. Lesson for you there, Patrick
liamoo11
10/04/2019, 7:33 AM
That's because he's been passed in the ranking by McGoldrick, Robinson and Obafemi, three players who were All In. Lesson for you there, Patrick
No one will care about obafemi if he is at hstylepool in 2 seasons. Grego cox was all in from 17 or 18 when he broke into the QPR team . Does anyone care about whether he feels Irish now because he is not in the top divisions?
paul_oshea
10/04/2019, 9:14 AM
As per MickMc back in March, September is the earliest that he will possibly join up with the squad. I am happy to give him until then and if he delays the good luck to him. Have always said, he would a super addition for us, would give us exactly what we need up front - a touch of class, good technique and a savvy finisher but if not on board in September then he can do one.
I didnt think he said September. The player himself has said June.
Olé Olé
10/04/2019, 12:44 PM
I didnt think he said September. The player himself has said June.
When did he say June?
I didnt think he said September. The player himself has said June.
Really? Source for that?
https://www.independent.ie/ca/sport/soccer/international-soccer/mick-mccarthy-suffers-setback-in-pursuit-of-englishborn-patrick-bamford-37914216.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6818017/Republic-Ireland-boss-Mick-McCarthy-reveals-Patrick-Bamford-international-career-hold.html
After a text message exchange earlier this month McCarthy had hoped to get Bamford's registration transferred in time for him to be available to play for Ireland in June against Denmark and Gibraltar - but it will now be September at the earliest before he pulls on a green shirt.
paul_oshea
10/04/2019, 3:20 PM
Well Paddy B, Pat Bam, P Bammy was telling the lads he'd be available in June. After the big win a few weeks ago. So why would he lie?
Also England have proven you can push it through when you want.
Perhaps Mick is creating a buffer.
Well Paddy B, Pat Bam, P Bammy was telling the lads he'd be available in June. After the big win a few weeks ago. So why would he lie?
Also England have proven you can push it through when you want.
Perhaps Mick is creating a buffer.
who did he say it to? Who are "the lads"?
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