Limerick Division 1B 2011/12

[theboywonder8]

both broe and mcnamara amongst our best refs,but its a thankless job even though money compensates somewhat.they have to put up with a lot ,the worst surely abuse from self styled experts on the game who dont know the rules.
There's a lot of refs who don't know the rules as well and that's a fact,too many of them on ego trips who have never played the game,I've seen many a game ruined by referrees incompetence as I'm sure you have.if a lot of them used some common sense their wouldn't be half the trouble their is at the moment,also a good few of them not fit enough to officiate games and that causes a lot of problems,I see many of them reffing from the centre circle as they are not able to get around the pitch,refs should cover more ground than players IMO

[rooney10]

we had a ref last year by the name of D.power and he was by far the best ive seen in a long time...ollie hayes and tony mannion are by far the worst!!!

[theboywonder8]

we had a ref last year by the name of D.power and he was by far the best ive seen in a long time...ollie hayes and tony mannion are by far the worst!!!

Yap Donal power is his name,improving all the time

[mogus]

There's a lot of refs who don't know the rules as well and that's a fact,too many of them on ego trips who have never played the game,I've seen many a game ruined by referrees incompetence as I'm sure you have.if a lot of them used some common sense their wouldn't be half the trouble their is at the moment,also a good few of them not fit enough to officiate games and that causes a lot of problems,I see many of them reffing from the centre circle as they are not able to get around the pitch,refs should cover more ground than players IMO

refs arent the only one on ego trips, many a game was ruined by sidelines aswell. no refs no game simple as that. some players going around thinking there footballing geniuses, and really a junior player is a junior player

[abbeyvale]

In fairness theres a good few refs around the town lads, and without them (good or bad) we'd have no football.
Also its a thankless job for a ref, considering we all make mistakes (players, managers and refs) but when a ref makes one mistake he gets abused, but yet the players and managers very seldom do.
A lot of credit has to be given to refs in general because I for sure wouldnt ref a game for €48 (and in some cases less) for the amount they have to put up with and especially in Limerick.

[reccos]

I don't think that anyone would argue with the fact that the refs make it possible for us to play ball every weekend and of course they are entitled to make mistakes. What is not acceptable though is when a ref is given a game in his local town or village and throughout the game makes clear decisions that favour the home team.

[diego10]

I don't think that anyone would argue with the fact that the refs make it possible for us to play ball every weekend and of course they are entitled to make mistakes. What is not acceptable though is when a ref is given a game in his local town or village and throughout the game makes clear decisions that favour the home team.

what local town village are you referring to?

[theboywonder8]

what local town village are you referring to?

Does anyone know if refs train,there's a lot of them who don't look like the do.if they are not fit enough to keep up with play they shouldn't be reffing,that's where a lot of problems arise,

[TopperHarley]

if they are not fit enough to keep up with play they shouldn't be reffing
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But where are these super fit refs gonna come from ?

[theboywonder8]

if they are not fit enough to keep up with play they shouldn't be reffing
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But where are these super fit refs gonna come from ?

You tell me,no matter what division they are reffing in they should be able to keep up with play,would you not agree????Players can find the the time for training so they should,and they are getting something out if it.

[reccos]

what local town village are you referring to?

I was referring to the Bruff vs Athlunkard game last Sunday. You know it will be an uphill battle when you arrive to see the ref on the home sideline having a some very friendly banter before the game even starts

[wanderer]

no matter how good or bad some refs are there are clubs who will abuse or use any means possible to gain an advantage.how many games do u see when the ref is always wrong depending on whos winning.lots of supporters should take off the blinkers and let ref get on with it.pike ,balla,hillceltic and moyross almost forgot bruff and croom who are guilty of this.

[rooney10]

knockainey 3-1 shelbourne
hospital 0-3 bruff

[bruffunited]

I was referring to the Bruff vs Athlunkard game last Sunday. You know it will be an uphill battle when you arrive to see the ref on the home sideline having a some very friendly banter before the game even startsref that day was not from bruff and i think there are refs that have been around a long time and see the same faces at matches for years and get to know these people none of the people would have been playing you see it week in week out in town refs know players personally because they have been in the game so long nothing atal to do with that they will be bias towards them they just know them from the game..and when you say you arrived and the ref was over talking to the home side that must of been when he was checking the boots because the ref came jst on time checked the boots and started the game..bit of sour grapes because the ref sent of 1 of ur best players??

[abbeyvale]

Div 1B P W D L F A Pts
Moyross 10 8 2 0 40 10 26
Dromore Cel 10 7 1 2 25 15 22
Athlunkard V 11 5 4 2 20 11 19
Janesboro B 10 6 0 4 21 22 18
Prospect Pr 9 5 0 4 24 28 15
Bruff Utd 10 4 4 2 21 14 16
Murroe 10 4 2 4 21 20 14
Kennedy Pk 10 4 1 5 16 18 13
Knockainey 10 2 2 6 19 25 8
Hospital 9 2 2 5 19 23 8
Cappamore 10 1 5 4 21 30 7
Shelbourne 11 1 0 10 15 46 3

Fixtures
Sun 23/10/11
Cappamore v Prospect Priory, 10.30, R Peiper
Kennedy Park v Hospital, 10.30, J Clancy
Janesboro B v Bruff United, 10.30, O Hayes

[abbeyvale]

Div 1B P W D L F A Pts
Moyross 10 8 2 0 40 10 26
Dromore Cel 10 7 1 2 25 15 22
Bruff Utd 15 5 4 2 26 15 19
Athlunkard V 11 5 4 2 20 11 19
Janesboro B 11 6 0 5 22 27 18
Kennedy Pk 11 5 1 5 19 19 16
Prospect Pr 9 5 0 4 24 28 15
Murroe 10 4 2 4 21 20 14
Hospital 10 2 2 6 20 26 8
Knockainey 10 2 2 6 19 25 8
Cappamore 10 1 5 4 21 30 7
Shelbourne 11 1 0 10 15 46 3

Results
Sun 23/10/11
Cappamore P-P Prospect Priory,
Kennedy Park 3-1 Hospital,
Janesboro B 1-5 Bruff United,

[mysteryman]

well thats wrong, kennedy park lost 3-1

[Balbec77]

good win for bruff against a good boro team.could have been 8 or 9 though,thought ollie hayes wasnt bad either.

[abbeyvale]

Div 1B P W D L F A Pts
Moyross 10 8 2 0 40 10 26
Dromore Cel 10 7 1 2 25 15 22
Bruff Utd 11 5 4 2 26 15 19
Athlunkard V 11 5 4 2 20 11 19
Janesboro B 11 6 0 5 22 27 18
Prospect Pr 9 5 0 4 24 28 15
Murroe 10 4 2 4 21 20 14
Kennedy Pk 11 4 1 6 17 21 13
Hospital 10 3 2 5 22 24 11
Knockainey 10 2 2 6 19 25 8
Cappamore 10 1 5 4 21 30 7
Shelbourne 11 1 0 10 15 46 3

Fixtures
Sun 30/10/11
Janesboro v Prospect Priory, 10.30, K Gorman
Bruff Utd v Knockainey, 10.30, D Power
Kennedy Park v Shelbourne, 10.30, O Hayes

[Fairkop]

good win for bruff against a good boro team.could have been 8 or 9 though,thought ollie hayes wasnt bad either.

i am a little confused by that one balbec....ye could have beaten a good boro team ,....by 8 or 9 goals?tbf ye are right in the mix for promotion.

[Balbec77]

i am a little confused by that one balbec....ye could have beaten a good boro team ,....by 8 or 9 goals?tbf ye are right in the mix for promotion.why confused all i said was bruff had a good win against a good boro team which they are.

[booster 03]

There's a lot of refs who don't know the rules as well and that's a fact,too many of them on ego trips who have never played the game,I've seen many a game ruined by referrees incompetence as I'm sure you have.if a lot of them used some common sense their wouldn't be half the trouble their is at the moment,also a good few of them not fit enough to officiate games and that causes a lot of problems,I see many of them reffing from the centre circle as they are not able to get around the pitch,refs should cover more ground than players IMO



mike burke shoulnt be left near an u8's match, worst ref iv come across in 20 yrs

d power good ref, able to keep up with the game, to be fair all u want from a ref is a bit of consistency,most of the time its the sideline or team shouts loudest gets the free, but they have an impossible job.

[bruffunited]

bruff 4 knockainey 1

great win for bruff after goin a goal down in the 2nd half to a peno..bounced straight back and deserved the win..ref had a good game too even though there was alot of play acting from the away team and asking the ref to book players not nice to see

[wanderer]

kennedy park 1 shelbourne 1 .ref ollie hayes had ashocker gave a goal to shels to equalise after ablatant handball.he was then surrounded by K.P. players and 2 guys who came in of the line.there protests worked becuse shels then scored a perfectly good goal which ollie disallowed.when asked after the game why he dissallowed the goal he said offside when it was pointed out that the ball was passed back from the endline he then changed his answer. after all that a draw was a fair result.

[rooney10]

bruff 4 knockainey 1

great win for bruff after goin a goal down in the 2nd half to a peno..bounced straight back and deserved the win..ref had a good game too even though there was alot of play acting from the away team and asking the ref to book players not nice to see

bruff deserved there win no doubt,play actin is rubbish talk!!bruffs simon delaneys carry on towards the end was a disgrace,yet again he showed his through colours!!!

[bruffunited]

what was wrong with simon delaney was he asking the ref to book players?? was he rolling around the grass after a 50/50 tackle like he was after breaking his leg then as soon as the player got a yellow bounces straight back up to his feet??? in my opinion the lad was a bit worked up from the occasion and a few tackles that were flying in as they do in local derbys and he was giving as good as he was getting of yer players and off yer sideline but it jst got to ye a bit more cos ye were loosing 4-1 at that stage..

[Balbec77]

bruff deserved there win no doubt,play actin is rubbish talk!!bruffs simon delaneys carry on towards the end was a disgrace,yet again he showed his through colours!!!ya showed his true colours alright.fought to the end and got stuck in to every challenge.a bit of banter towards the end from simon was expected as he was was hyped up with winning a derby match.wouldnt call that a disgrace now would we.

[abbeyvale]

Div 1B P W D L F A Pts
Moyross 10 8 2 0 40 10 26
Bruff Utd 12 6 4 2 30 16 22
Dromore Celtic 10 7 1 2 25 15 22
Janesboro B 12 7 0 5 25 29 21
Athlunkard Villa 11 5 4 2 20 11 19
Prospect Priory 10 5 0 5 26 31 15
Murroe 10 4 2 4 21 20 14
Kennedy Park 12 4 2 6 18 22 14
Hospital 10 3 2 5 22 24 11
Knockainey 11 2 2 7 20 30 8
Cappamore 10 1 4 5 21 30 7
Shelbourne A 12 1 1 10 16 46 4


Fixtures
06/11/11
Prospect v Cappamore, 10.30, D Power
Murroe v Dromore Celtic, 10.30, M Kiely
Moyross v Hospital, 10.30, M Bateman
Knockainey v Kennedy Park, 10.30, T Mannion
Janesboro B v Athlunkard Villa, 2.00, K O’Driscoll

[twohalves]

Prospect 4-1 Cappamore.

[new boy]

kp seem to be going through a very poor patch....think they will find it hard to stay in the league unless they can pull a few good wins out of the hat......

[abbeyvale]

Moyross 11 8 2 1 41 12 26
Janesboro B 13 8 0 5 28 31 24
Bruff Utd 12 6 4 2 30 16 22
Dromore Celtic 11 7 1 3 26 17 22
Athlunkard V 12 5 4 3 22 14 19
Prospect Priory 11 6 0 5 29 31 18
Murroe 11 5 2 4 23 21 17
Kennedy Park 13 4 2 7 20 28 14
Hospital 11 4 2 5 23 26 14
Knockainey 12 3 2 7 26 32 11
Cappamore 11 1 4 6 22 34 7
Shelbourne A 12 1 1 10 16 46 4


Results
06/11/11
Prospect 4 Cappamore 1
Murroe 2 Dromore Celtic 1
Moyross 1 Hospital 2
Knockainey 6 Kennedy Park 2
Janesboro B 3 Athlunkard Villa 2


Fixtures
13/11/11
Prospect Priory V Knockainey, 10.30, D Power
Dromore Celtic V Cappamore, 10.30, S Rooney
Murroe A V Shelbourne A, 10.30, O Hayes
Moyross v Athlunkard Villa, 10.30, R Hennessy
Kennedy Park v Bruff United, 10.30, K O’Driscoll

[rocky100]

Heard Artlunkard are objecting against the Boro onthe grounds of players on the card not signed. I was at the game and Boro struggled to fill a team like they do most weeks, and like they did last season when they had to give walk overs and were thrown out of the leauge. Artlunkard were 2 up with 30 minutes to go and lost 3-2. They way I look at it, it was 11 v 11 and they threw it away, sour grapes from supposedly football men in charge there, why teams cant take a beating in this town if beyond me. Artlunkard should be embarrased..... they won't get nowhere near promotion because they are not good enough.. from what I could see Boro beat them fair and square on the pitch. And I'm not a Boro man. I was at the game because it was on in the afternoon...

[rooney10]

Heard Artlunkard are objecting against the Boro onthe grounds of players on the card not signed. I was at the game and Boro struggled to fill a team like they do most weeks, and like they did last season when they had to give walk overs and were thrown out of the leauge. Artlunkard were 2 up with 30 minutes to go and lost 3-2. They way I look at it, it was 11 v 11 and they threw it away, sour grapes from supposedly football men in charge there, why teams cant take a beating in this town if beyond me. Artlunkard should be embarrased..... they won't get nowhere near promotion because they are not good enough.. from what I could see Boro beat them fair and square on the pitch. And I'm not a Boro man. I was at the game because it was on in the afternoon...

if boro had players on the card that are not signed then IMO atlunkard are dead right to lodge an objection regardless of winning or losin the match..

[rooney10]

kp seem to be going through a very poor patch....think they will find it hard to stay in the league unless they can pull a few good wins out of the hat......

they were a holy show in the second half vs knockainey,players fighting wit each other all over the field,there manager left before the match was over!!!!I think they wil be very close to relegation!!

[abbeyvale]

Heard Artlunkard are objecting against the Boro onthe grounds of players on the card not signed. I was at the game and Boro struggled to fill a team like they do most weeks, and like they did last season when they had to give walk overs and were thrown out of the leauge. Artlunkard were 2 up with 30 minutes to go and lost 3-2. They way I look at it, it was 11 v 11 and they threw it away, sour grapes from supposedly football men in charge there, why teams cant take a beating in this town if beyond me. Artlunkard should be embarrased..... they won't get nowhere near promotion because they are not good enough.. from what I could see Boro beat them fair and square on the pitch. And I'm not a Boro man. I was at the game because it was on in the afternoon...

What a stupid statement.

How in Gods name were Athlunkard beaten fair and square "IF" the Boro were illegal, and regardless of whether Athlunkard win promotion or not "IF" the Boro were illegal then they (Athlunkard) are 100% correct to lodge an appeal.

"IF" the Boro are found guilty, then they should be docked points aswell as losing the 3pts from the game in question.

You say the way you look at it was "it was 11 v 11" so does that make it ok for any players to play for any club????

Like I said, its a stupid statement.

And for what its worth, I was told that the Boro only had 5 players 10minutes before kick off (not sure how true this is though)

[waist high]

What a stupid statement.

How in Gods name were Athlunkard beaten fair and square "IF" the Boro were illegal, and regardless of whether Athlunkard win promotion or not "IF" the Boro were illegal then they (Athlunkard) are 100% correct to lodge an appeal.

"IF" the Boro are found guilty, then they should be docked points aswell as losing the 3pts from the game in question.

You say the way you look at it was "it was 11 v 11" so does that make it ok for any players to play for any club????

Like I said, its a stupid statement.

And for what its worth, I was told that the Boro only had 5 players 10minutes before kick off (not sure how true this is though) boro had basically an over 40s team, athlunkard are shocking, moyross will hockey them the wknd

[rocky100]

Don't know about the five before the match, but I know they struggled to get eleven, As for the stupid statement, if Artlunkard had a problem with the card why didn't they say anything when they were 2 up, By that logic the attitude of Artlunkard would be "it's ok if we win, they're stuck for a team but if we lose we'll say something" how can that be right. Talking to someone last night and they have a named 3 players not signed, but I'm told only one was not signed. Still wrong and the boro will probably lose the points but, the player who is not signed would not get in the team anyway and has played with the boro all his life and was trying to help out by being a sub. Would you prefer what happened to them last year and to be kicked out of the league for giving walk overs?? They are struggling for a team and are still 2nd in the league so thats says a lot about the players they do have but you won't hear any credit for them. Artlunkard were beaten simple as that, and its true for waist high it could have been an over 40's team. Boro went out to play the match and won simple as that..... And don't tell me there isn't names on cards everyweek of fellas that aren't signed.

[Big Red]

The player in question is a sub goalkeeper who was asked to play out field because we were stuck, who signed a form at the start of the season, so it's not that clear cut. As for athlunkard thay were well beaten on the day by half a Boro team thay were going around with iPhones taking photos and everything, u would swear someone was murdered. But I know thay won't be promoted because there not good enough.

[kk11]

Sorry now rocky, I am manager of athlunkard villa and its as simple as this if you cannot field a team on a sunday morning you should not be in the league. A team has to abide by the rules, we had philip clancy on the sideline serving a one match ban but we did not play him. I have 16 lads training twice a week and there every sunday , wheter we finish firth or last is not the point at least we'll finish there playing a legitimate athlunkard side. Ye had 5 illegal players sunday, thats that, and there is a bit of pots and kettles here as the boro objected against athlunkard to gain promotion in the not so distant past, as for us not getting promoted this is very probable playing as we are right now, but at least I know we will have a full team every week at least trying, and it was only 2 months ago we beat boro 6-1 so I think the boro proved that anyone can improve;-)
Don't know about the five before the match, but I know they struggled to get eleven, As for the stupid statement, if Artlunkard had a problem with the card why didn't they say anything when they were 2 up, By that logic the attitude of Artlunkard would be "it's ok if we win, they're stuck for a team but if we lose we'll say something" how can that be right. Talking to someone last night and they have a named 3 players not signed, but I'm told only one was not signed. Still wrong and the boro will probably lose the points but, the player who is not signed would not get in the team anyway and has played with the boro all his life and was trying to help out by being a sub. Would you prefer what happened to them last year and to be kicked out of the league for giving walk overs?? They are struggling for a team and are still 2nd in the league so thats says a lot about the players they do have but you won't hear any credit for them. Artlunkard were beaten simple as that, and its true for waist high it could have been an over 40's team. Boro went out to play the match and won simple as that..... And don't tell me there isn't names on cards everyweek of fellas that aren't signed.

[ProEvo]

boro b had illegal players simple as that, and i was talking to one lad who played and he said they had more than 3? didnt see the game but villa have had players suspended this year and the players didnt play. the games they missed they drew and lost so what they should have done is play there suspended player and maybe they might of won those games .... any team in town would object if a player is illegal so why are people coming on here saying a team is sad/ sour grapes if they object. Get a grip of yourselfs. the idiots posting rubish on here are just trying to cause trouble...... and they dont even play ball just sit and watch with pot bellies.

the promo race will be interesting this year in 1 b. for me moyross will go up along with dromore. bruff/borob/villa/murroe and prospect all have a very good chance of getting promoted as well.

best of luck to all teams in 1b.

[lankyboy26]

Sorry now rocky, I am manager of athlunkard villa and its as simple as this if you cannot field a team on a sunday morning you should not be in the league. A team has to abide by the rules, we had philip clancy on the sideline serving a one match ban but we did not play him. I have 16 lads training twice a week and there every sunday , wheter we finish firth or last is not the point at least we'll finish there playing a legitimate athlunkard side. Ye had 5 illegal players sunday, thats that, and there is a bit of pots and kettles here as the boro objected against athlunkard to gain promotion in the not so distant past, as for us not getting promoted this is very probable playing as we are right now, but at least I know we will have a full team every week at least trying, and it was only 2 months ago we beat boro 6-1 so I think the boro proved that anyone can improve;-)

Well said

[theboywonder8]

I wonder who'll get the blame for this one.if they were illegal they'll lose the points and if not they won't.end of story.is leather not the manager down there,and if so IF they were illegal he should know better.

[Fairkop]

if kk11 and his club feel boro b have a case to answer they have every right to take it further...rules are there for a reason,if they are proved to be abused that club has to answer for it.......however the high moral ground taken by a few posters on here leaves one to believe they have very short memories,....lots of people in one team clubs should know better.

[theboywonder8]

Explain?

[mogus]

i think the problem here is "why the boro had to play illegal players rather than should athlunkard object" if i played for them i would be more upset with fellas that didnt bother to turn up.

[rocky100]

I know nothing about the Boro objecting to anything and I don't care the point I'm trying to make is ye were 2 up and lost 3-2 to as one poster said an over 40's team, It's the players ye are complaining about that gets me, they wouldn't get into a div 4 team. I think it says more about how ye played than who played for the boro. They will will more then likely lose the 3 points and i don't know how it works, whether Artlunkard get them or not, I'm just saying if I was involved with a club I wouldn't want the 3 points that way, I'd be trying to find out why my team gave away a 2 goal lead. And as i said I have nothing to do with the Boro so "Ye" didn't have 5 illegal players. If ye get the points good luck to ye for the rest of the season but I don't think ye earned them.

[Hollywood Hogan]

Disappointing to see a club like the Boro struggle to field a b team especially when they have so many A players signed. Looks like they will lose points from Sunday and could very easily go same way as last year. Could be a couple of decent players to be picked up in January.

[Hollywood Hogan]

As for Athlunkard they are right to object but I have to laugh at Kk11. How much Boro have improved since ye beat them 6-1. The Boro b team Sunday was shocking, a keeper who is a centre forward, two lads over 42, a centre forward who has not played in 12 years. 11 scraped together by all accounts, how Boro are second reflects badly on this division

[left back]

lads im with moyross and as much as im happy athlunkard lost if boro were illegal than they have every right to object,lets say they didnt and it cost them promotion at the end of season do u think that would be fair on them.

[mrman]

I wonder who'll get the blame for this one.if they were illegal they'll lose the points and if not they won't.end of story.is leather not the manager down there,and if so IF they were illegal he should know better.

if Boro cant field a team they should not be in the league, Im sure if they are illegal you will get the names and give them to Athlunkard, isnt that how you role.