Padraig Amond

[NeverFeltBetter]

The opposition aren't the same quality though. You know that, I think, so we're going in circles here. And the idea that a single decent season in the Conference should equate to a position in a Euro 2016 squad is absolutely absurd, even for you Tricky. I wouldn't put Rory Gaffney in the Ireland team, or in a Premiership squad, and he just got promoted from the 4th to the 3rd tier.

[gastric]

Jeez Tricky, you are dealing with a tough audience here - they are know it alls! I once proposed that Mark Bunn could be our number one goalkeeper and I am still carrying the scars. Good on you for supporting Amond, you 'll hear nothing from this crowd if proved right though. I do, however, think they have you by the short and curlies on this one.

[CraftyToePoke]

So what?

The goals are the same size.


This swung it for me, got to say. Screw the natural ascension in levels which define the game the world over with the international game its pinnacle. Screw how much harder is it to get a goal with an international class CB keeping half an eye on you with his buddies on tow. Screw the multitude of other matters which inform this topic. Because according to Tricky Colours rationale, we, every one of us on here are international ball capable strikers, and I for one am all for that. Because the goals are the same size, for us all.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Surely Paddy Madden averaging 20 at League One level trumps Amond scoring 30 at Vanarama level?

If O'Dowda can get a call up, surely Madden deserves one?

I thought he looked very busy in his cameo against Wales, unlucky not to score.

Certainly more deserving of a call up than Simon Cox.

[tricky_colour]

The opposition aren't the same quality though. You know that, I think, so we're going in circles here. And the idea that a single decent season in the Conference should equate to a position in a Euro 2016 squad is absolutely absurd, even for you Tricky. I wouldn't put Rory Gaffney in the Ireland team, or in a Premiership squad, and he just got promoted from the 4th to the 3rd tier.


That is a very weak arguement, it is cancelled out by the fact he willl be playing with better player on his side
so he will get better chances.

And neither would I because 1 goal every 3 games is very ordinary Amond is getting 3 in 4.

How many goals to you think Long would get in the same league? 3 a game?

Robbie would be getting 5 or 6 a match.

[TheBoss]

Just from general observation, but it seems the gap between the top half of the conference to the bottom half of League 1 is not that far apart imo. You see teams from the Conference regularly getting promoted or getting to the playoffs of League 2 and even if some cases challenging for promotion in League 1 when they get there.

[tricky_colour]

This swung it for me, got to say. Screw the natural ascension in levels which define the game the world over with the international game its pinnacle. Screw how much harder is it to get a goal with an international class CB keeping half an eye on you with his buddies on tow. Screw the multitude of other matters which inform this topic. Because according to Tricky Colours rationale, we, every one of us on here are international ball capable strikers, and I for one am all for that. Because the goals are the same size, for us all.


There is no so much of a gulf in class as you think, baring perhaps fitness.
Maybe that is what is letting him down, he is called "podge' after all..

But he is as skilful as any player I have seen in many respects.

He would convert more chances than Long although he might not get as many.

Take Gaffry who was mentioned.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTyU8btt1es

I could have scored the first one and the second one, and I would not need two chances at it either.

Anyone can score a goal at any level if you are in the right spot and have a goal scorers instinct.

He is in form, not too sure about some of the strikers we are taking who only have vague recollections
of scoring a goal.

[tetsujin1979]

There is no so much of a gulf in class as you think, baring perhaps fitness.
Maybe that is what is letting him down, he is called "podge' after all..


Everyone who's called Padraig is nicknamed Podge

[osarusan]

I played football in the kitchen last night with my son. I scored 9 times and the goals are tiny - just the space between chair legs.

Call me up.

[DeLorean]

Not much chance of your son getting called up though I'm afraid. :)

[osarusan]

Not much chance of your son getting called up though I'm afraid. :)
He won 10-9.

Every game involves me racing into a lead before he makes the most dramatic of comebacks. The goal he scores into is the width of a door though.

I didn't want to give the final score for fear of damaging my chances of a call up.

[DeLorean]

Seems like he has great character. I know just the guy who might fancy him...

http://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-a-player-s-character-is-a-crucial-factor-i-look-into-before-committing-to-signing-them-brendan-rodgers-130-49-84.jpg

[tricky_colour]

The thing is he might turn out to be rubbish I accept that, so we could write:-

Padraig Amond, rubbish?

However with some of the players we are taking that question mark is not required.

That is the difference.


Here he makes a goal out of nothing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97bNky1gRao

He offers something different to what we have.

[tricky_colour]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCsJtvTDBWw

A bit of magic, that will be useful considering we need back to back miracles!

[tetsujin1979]

nobody's saying he's a bad player, just that he's unlikely to play at any level higher than league one, including international

[SkStu]

While we're through the looking glass, anyone know if Lee Trundle has booked Magaluf yet?

[tetsujin1979]

The climb has begun. Amond signs for Hartlepool: http://mobile.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/news/article/hartlepool-united-sign-grimsby-town-striker-padraig-amond-3146931.aspx

[DeLorean]

The Paddy Madden talk reminded me of Tricky's short lived (but intense) love affair with this fella. I see he has gone on to score seven goals in nineteen games this season in League 2 - not too bad but sadly not quite justifying Tricky's Euros wild card campaign I don't think. :)

[Stuttgart88]

Referred to as Podge Amond by Jeff Stelling, Hartlepool fan, on TV yesterday.

[DeLorean]

Didn't notice that, but then I'd completely forgotten he'd even moved to Hartlepool until I dug this thread up. Maybe he should have stayed put at Grimsby who are six points ahead of them.

Edit- says he's scored nine goals here (http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/38433372) actually. Wiki must need updating.

[tetsujin1979]

Signed for Newport County: https://www.newport-county.co.uk/news/2017/august/padraig-amond/

[Fixer82]

Goal and assist today

[Olé Olé]

Newport earned themselves a replay away to Spurs today. Amond got the opener before Kane equalized.

[tricky_colour]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECwseZ9Lyhg

[pineapple stu]

Is that a weird pronunciation of Amond the commentator's using?

I always pronounced it like almond, the nut. The commentator makes him sound French

[tricky_colour]

Is that a weird pronunciation of Amond the commentator's using?

I always pronounced it like almond, the nut. The commentator makes him sound French

Sounded odd, there is also the question of how you pronounce pardaig

paw-drig, pahd-rag, paw-rick or paaah-ric?

Article here https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2007/jul/24/golf.comment


The ancient
Anglo-Saxon (http://www.houseofnames.com/wiki/Anglo-Saxons) surname Amond came from Hamon, an Old French
personal name (http://www.houseofnames.com/wiki/surname-types#patronymic) brought to
England (https://www.houseofnames.com/wiki/England) after the
Norman Conquest (http://www.houseofnames.com/wiki/Norman-Conquest) in 1066.


It does have a French ring to it, I think the vest bet is to drop all the 'd's

pawrig amon

[tricky_colour]

You're completely ignoring the crux of my point. I'm not arguing whether the finishes are good or clinical or whether he was effective in front of goal converting them. I'm saying he won't be afforded the space he got at a higher level and when the time comes to take a second touch to create his own space, I don't know how effective he'll be.

What makes you think Long or Keane would have got 7? Long has banged in more than 7 at PL level this season and is a much more rounded striker. Keane has been scoring those kind of goals at a higher level for close to 20 years. In fairness now...

I haven't seen much of Amond. One thing I'll say is he played a lot on the wing, apparently, when he was in League Two. Maybe teams will place more confidence in him as a front man with this record now and maybe he'll cope with better defenders with ease...

Well here he is playing against a Champion League level side.

He is playing for a 4th tier side with 4th tier teammates and easily scoring against a top tier side.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vouWGo5gBG4


You get the same space at every level the whole of the pitch to make your own space as we see him do here, round the back of the defender.


Oh and Spurs score 6 minutes after they take him off!

What a ridiculous substitution!

[tricky_colour]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7gDP3vIKdU

[tricky_colour]

I bet the man reason no top tier club enquired for him was nobody knew how to pronounce his name.

[Olé Olé]

Well here he is playing against a Champion League level side.

He is playing for a 4th tier side with 4th tier teammates and easily scoring against a top tier side.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vouWGo5gBG4


You get the same space at every level the whole of the pitch to make your own space as we see him do here, round the back of the defender.


Oh and Spurs score 6 minutes after they take him off!

What a ridiculous substitution!

This stinks of MON/TOD and "good luck"... He's averaging a goal every 3 matches in League 2. He's not Harry Kane. There are plenty of players scoring against PL sides in the FA Cup.

[tricky_colour]

This stinks of MON/TOD and "good luck"... He's averaging a goal every 3 matches in League 2. He's not Harry Kane. There are plenty of players scoring against PL sides in the FA Cup.

Kane averages a goal every 3.6 games on league 1

[NeverFeltBetter]

I don't know why exactly, but it makes me think of Jermaine Beckford. Remember him? Had a few decent seasons with Leeds in tier two, scored a winner again Man Utd at Old Trafford in a cup game. I remember everyone talking like he was a superstar in the making, why isn't a big club signing him, why isn't he getting called up to the England squad, etc. Fast forward past an underwhelming run with Everton, Leicester, Preston (where he was sent off for fighting with a team mate on the pitch, then sent off three minutes after returning from suspension) currently playing with Bury in Tier 3 and played six games with Jamaica in 2013.

The point being, a lower tier player scoring against a top club in a cup game is absolutely meaningless as a metric for overall talent.

[tricky_colour]

Well at least he got a chance, he didn't seem to do bad, various factor apply, different systems etc... not every player makes
it. I think maybe Beckford relied more on physical attributes rather than say positioning and awareness, the more mental aspects of the game. Plus as you point out he seems to have some attitude problems.
Just give him a shot though, if he turn out to be rubbish he won't be any different to what we already have!

[irishfan86]

He's got a pretty strong scoring record, albeit at a lower level. It strikes me as strange that a League 1 or Championship team has never taken a punt on him. I suppose there's no harm in having a look at him in a training squad but at age 29 I suspect there are other players in need of more match time with our senior squad like Horgan, Hogan, Maguire that we really need to start blooding -- young players plying their trade at a higher level who will offer more for Euro 2020 qualifying and the tournament itself in the attacking positions.

[tricky_colour]

One of the reasons no big club came in for him is that Amond is almost nuts.

[samhaydenjr]

He's got a pretty strong scoring record, albeit at a lower level. It strikes me as strange that a League 1 or Championship team has never taken a punt on him. I suppose there's no harm in having a look at him in a training squad but at age 29 I suspect there are other players in need of more match time with our senior squad like Horgan, Hogan, Maguire that we really need to start blooding -- young players plying their trade at a higher level who will offer more for Euro 2020 qualifying and the tournament itself in the attacking positions.

Actually his scoring record in four seasons at League Two level was about one in four-and-a-half games before he had that big year at Grimsby in the National League and followed that up with a record of about one in three games over the last season and a half with Hartlepool and Newport - best bet for a move up would probably be promotion with Newport, or a transfer to another promoted team.

[irishfan86]

Yes but he often plays in the wide positions, no? Good strike record for a player who isn’t exclusively a centre forward. But perhaps I have bad intel on that front.

[tricky_colour]

It's the wrong thread Jeff!

[Charlie Darwin]

Winner for Newport against Leicester City in the FA Cup today.

[DeLorean]

Winner for Newport against Leicester City in the FA Cup today.

A very cool penalty it was too. Mark O'Brien came on afterwards to help Newport see out the game. Great scenes.

[Fixer82]

Call him up Mick!

[Olé Olé]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/01/05/newportspadraig-amond-will-use-big-game-experience-mission-upset/

He was interviewed by the Telegraph pre-match and spoke very well about the thrill of the Spurs goal and the trials and tribulations of playing at that league level. There's another good interview to be had now after the penalty.

[OwlsFan]

Heard in a interview that he played hurling for Carlow under an assumed name before a Rovers game :O

[CraftyToePoke]

With the finish of a continental deity tonight as his club knocked Middlesbrough out to make the business end of the FA Cup and meet Man City

- https://streamable.com/k7xhw

[Olé Olé]

Assisted the first goal too. Big congrats to Amond.

[tricky_colour]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgLEkUTBc0o

[tricky_colour]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhUjp0jAGDo

[tricky_colour]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hay4sFEMw4g&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hay4sFEMw4g&feature=youtu.be&t=150)

2:30



First goal 2:00 we don't see the assist, but it hardly created the goal.

[Fixer82]

Hell of a strike. Ball coming to him at pace.
Amond is playing like he's a Brazilian :)

[tricky_colour]

Better than playing like he's a Cashew.