Rovers Accounts

[SkStu]

Also find it funny when Bohs fans slag Rovers off when their club is going down the ****ter.

except for MB, which Bohs fans are slagging Rovers off?

im not as i have no idea how serious or not those accounts/retained losses are.

[dcfcsteve]

This is gas.

Yet more jealously and bitterness towards SRFC. Get a grip the lot of ye, you think you know more then the club themselves. Its just a bit of debt, they'll handle it.

Also find it funny when Bohs fans slag Rovers off when their club is going down the ****ter.

Common sense says that no organisation can continue indefinitely with an increasing debt burden every year. You don't need to dust off your rocket science degree to understand that.

So maybe some day we can have a discussion around these sorts of issues at ANY club without the usual patheticly juvenile "Ugghhh, you's are all jealous" (in a mongo type voice) crap that idiots defensively post in response.

Though knowing this site, sadly that day won't be arriving soon..

[Riddickcule]

Though knowing this site, sadly that day won't be arriving soon..
Yeah because most folk on this site are anti-rovers, for some strange reason.

[MariborKev]

Or most Rovers fans have a bigger chip on their shoulder than the rest of us.......

You pays yer money and takes yer pick on that one.

[Dodge]

Yeah because most folk on this site are anti-rovers, for some strange reason.

Are you for real? Look back on the Istreali thread, or the Juventus one, or the many tallaght threads. There are peple who hate Rovers, but most don't. Fans of most clubs feel everyone is against them when its clearly not the case

[osarusan]

Its just a bit of debt, they'll handle it.
You see, for all the posts you make about 16-team leagues and better structures, the quote above shows just how much you (don't) know about LOI.

[thischarmingman]

Its just a bit of debt, they'll handle it.



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[Buller]

I prefer this video myself... :cool:

http://vimeo.com/14046212

:cool:

[A face]

I prefer this video myself... :cool:

To be fair, it would be a good name for their mascot .... if they could just agree on it then there is a small chink light at the end of their dark dark tunnel.

[Riddickcule]

Even if I didn't know much is there a rule that I can't post on this site until I do?

....

[dcfcsteve]

Yeah because most folk on this site are anti-rovers, for some strange reason.

Grow up... :rolleyes:

Every club's accounts have pretty much been put through the ringer on here over the last couple of years. Even those clubs that don't publish their accounts !

[PartySaint]

This is gas.

Yet more jealously and bitterness towards SRFC. Get a grip the lot of ye, you think you know more then the club themselves. Its just a bit of debt, they'll handle it.

Also find it funny when Bohs fans slag Rovers off when their club is going down the ****ter.

This is a internet forum, anyone who takes anything on here too seriously is an idiot

[GreenStar]

Is this thread still running? This whole thread is based on a wishy-washy article printed in a wishy-washy rag. Indeed a wishy-washy rag that everybody on here knows is a completely anti-LOI 'publication'. In the best couple of weeks in the brightest period of Rovers' recent history this rag still feels it should throw that article out there. And unfortunately some people on here jumped right on it and made it into something that it's not, i.e. news! Surely this thread has run its' course, particularly as it has gone down the road of most other threads regarding Rovers.

[pineapple stu]

This whole thread is based on a wishy-washy article printed in a wishy-washy rag.
Well, no, it's not. It's based on Rovers' balance sheet, as posted earlier in the thread. Yes, that mayn't tell you enough to make judgement calls on, but it's at least more solid information than a random newspaper article.

[marinobohs]

This is gas.

Yet more jealously and bitterness towards SRFC. Get a grip the lot of ye, you think you know more then the club themselves. Its just a bit of debt, they'll handle it.

Also find it funny when Bohs fans slag Rovers off when their club is going down the ****ter.

Is it jelousy or bitterness when shams (or anyone) slag off Bohs ? jealous of what exactly ? 20 odd years on the road (and still renting) or no throphies for much the same period ? where were you when shams were telling all and sundry that they knew more about Bohs than our members (and invariably wrong) ?
Bohs MAY be going down the toilet but you forget shams WENT down the toilet and no amount of rewriting history will change that.

"fans slag off opposition on message board" - shock, horror, gasp whatever next :confused:

[hoopy]

Is it jelousy or bitterness when shams (or anyone) slag off Bohs ? jealous of what exactly ? 20 odd years on the road (and still renting) or no throphies for much the same period ? where were you when shams were telling all and sundry that they knew more about Bohs than our members (and invariably wrong) ?
Bohs MAY be going down the toilet but you forget shams WENT down the toilet and no amount of rewriting history will change that.


Invariably wrong? You know quite well we've been right all along about what you're board we're doing but you all just buried you're heads up your collective arses and denied everything. Tony Maguire was a disgrace as our Chairman, leaving small businesses without payment etc. But we stopped funding the club, forcing him and his cohorts out, and started from scratch again. Your members will be asked once again to fund the idiots in charge of your club and once again the sheep will obey through fear, instead of facing facts. The fact that we 'went down the toilet' and are back at the top again is surely something to be proud of, so who wants to rewrite history? And as members we'll have the balls to ensure the club never goes back to the dark days under the previous board. Ps, the jealousy and bitterness does exist from you, whatever you say on here, because of where both our clubs are going. Nothing to do with 'history'. Btw, glad to see Sundays hiding is still fresh on your mind :D

[Macy]

Is this thread still running? This whole thread is based on a wishy-washy article printed in a wishy-washy rag. Indeed a wishy-washy rag that everybody on here knows is a completely anti-LOI 'publication'. In the best couple of weeks in the brightest period of Rovers' recent history this rag still feels it should throw that article out there. And unfortunately some people on here jumped right on it and made it into something that it's not, i.e. news! Surely this thread has run its' course, particularly as it has gone down the road of most other threads regarding Rovers.
Whatever about the timing of the article, and I'm cynical enough to at least accept that the timing could be malicious, the accounts are there for all to see. As someone who most definitely supports the ownership model that Rovers (and others have), and who's been generally appreciative of what Rovers have been trying to do to cement their place in the community in Tallaght, it's concerning to see losses apparently racking up. Obviously, CRO accounts don't give the full picture, but they do give an indication. It would be disappointing if Rovers weren't being especially prudent (given their, and the leagues history) and operating on a break even basis.

[marinobohs]

Invariably wrong? You know quite well we've been right all along about what you're board we're doing but you all just buried you're heads up your collective arses and denied everything. Tony Maguire was a disgrace as our Chairman, leaving small businesses without payment etc. But we stopped funding the club, forcing him and his cohorts out, and started from scratch again. Your members will be asked once again to fund the idiots in charge of your club and once again the sheep will obey through fear, instead of facing facts. The fact that we 'went down the toilet' and are back at the top again is surely something to be proud of, so who wants to rewrite history? And as members we'll have the balls to ensure the club never goes back to the dark days under the previous board. Ps, the jealousy and bitterness does exist from you, whatever you say on here, because of where both our clubs are going. Nothing to do with 'history'. Btw, glad to see Sundays hiding is still fresh on your mind :D

Fenlon STILL at Dundee ? bohs bankrupt/relegated/not receive League throphy last season ? All "exclusives" (among others) from the shams inside track and all rubbish.

As regards your fans "revolt" against the "old board" when did it happen ? you waited until you were bankrupt and relegated - great foresight from the sham masses (ask your creditors about shams business accumen). A couple of years on and the "new world order" at Tallaght is running inceasing deficits on vertually no tangible asset base, still renting a ground and have won SFA in decades. So much to be proud of indeed :o keep burying your head.

PS I can get over the result Sunday if we go on and win the League - much like we did after losing at SDCC ground last season :cool: jealous ? of what ? no ground ? no throphy ? dont make me laugh.

[hoops1]

Marino Bohs ask yourself one question, why is there less and less Bohs fans on here fighting Bohs corner. You are starting to sound more and more like comical Ali every day. You will be telling us the champions league group stages is still on any post now

[marinobohs]

Marino Bohs ask yourself one question, why is there less and less Bohs fans on here fighting Bohs corner. You are starting to sound more and more like comical Ali every day. You will be telling us the champions league group stages is still on any post now

So now you clowns want to write our posts as well ? (an inside source at Dalymount told me you are going to post.......). Actually talking more about shams on this thread than defending Bohs - as you know critising the rent boys is never allowed (we are all ABShams apparently). Do feel free to point out where I am saying Champions League group stages are still a possibility by all means but making up what I might say really reeks of desperation on your part.

[passerrby]

Invariably wrong? You know quite well we've been right all along about what you're board we're doing but you all just buried you're heads up your collective arses and denied everything. Tony Maguire was a disgrace as our Chairman, leaving small businesses without payment etc. But we stopped funding the club, forcing him and his cohorts out, and started from scratch again. Your members will be asked once again to fund the idiots in charge of your club and once again the sheep will obey through fear, instead of facing facts. The fact that we 'went down the toilet' and are back at the top again is surely something to be proud of, so who wants to rewrite history? And as members we'll have the balls to ensure the club never goes back to the dark days under the previous board. Ps, the jealousy and bitterness does exist from you, whatever you say on here, because of where both our clubs are going. Nothing to do with 'history'. Btw, glad to see Sundays hiding is still fresh on your mind :D

not been smart but seriously are rovers supporters re-writing history ..i mean thats not how i remember events

[hoopy]

The only reason Fenlon isn't at Dundee is because your board decided not to let him go. Nothing wrong with that. But the info that he wanted to go wasn't wrong. Ask Roddy Collins why he couldn't get money for players, and that was long before relegation so you're wrong there again. And again I say it, if you want to use the word jealous, then I've no doubt you most definately are. I'm very proud to be part of a group who've done what has to be done. I'd love to be able to show you this year's figures but unlike your club, we've no leaks. Hope for your player's wages' sake that Tommy Allen sold a lot more medicines this week :pirate:

[hoopy]

not been smart but seriously are rovers supporters re-writing history ..i mean thats not how i remember events

Not sure I understand the question. Are we re-writnig history, not how I remember it?

[Dodge]

I'd love to be able to show you this year's figures but unlike your club, we've no leaks.

You have. All clubs do. Nothing malicious in mates showing their mates anything of LOI interest.

[marinobohs]

The only reason Fenlon isn't at Dundee is because your board decided not to let him go. Nothing wrong with that. But the info that he wanted to go wasn't wrong. Ask Roddy Collins why he couldn't get money for players, and that was long before relegation so you're wrong there again. And again I say it, if you want to use the word jealous, then I've no doubt you most definately are. I'm very proud to be part of a group who've done what has to be done. I'd love to be able to show you this year's figures but unlike your club, we've no leaks. Hope for your player's wages' sake that Tommy Allen sold a lot more medicines this week :pirate:

Are we not discussing shams figures on this thread ? This years figures not finalised yet (you lot are waiting on the Tippex presumably - but hey no doubt the FAI will cover it up again :cool:)
Unlike the so called model club bohs do pay players wages - feel free to ask Roddy about that. still cant figure what I am jealous about - Renting a ground ? won nothing for decades ? feel free to let me know.

[marinobohs]

G....

Agreed dcfcsteve should have known it was impossible to discuss anything to do with the Shams without righteous indignation pouring out of every post (and a little history editing). Time to move on.........:rolleyes:

[pineapple stu]

If it's boring you steve, don't open the thread. Like, duh...

[Rasputin]

How come when Shams are having a pop at Bohs its just "an inside track" or other such drivel.
But when anyone else has a pop against Shams its one of the following "bitterness, jealousy or bitterness"?

[hoopy]

Are we not discussing shams figures on this thread ? This years figures not finalised yet (you lot are waiting on the Tippex presumably - but hey no doubt the FAI will cover it up again :cool:)


You're embarrassing yourself because you can't get over Sunday's humiliation. However FAI cover up/Tippex is hilarious. You've obviously forgotten that Bohs cheated the 65% for every week bar the last one last season. What I always find funny as well regarding the ground situation is that Bohs fans either don't know or choose to ignore how they were handed Dalymount themselves. I was shown a copy of a post yesterday taken from the Bohs forum from a genuine bloke trying to help his club out by continuing to tell the truth. Apparently it's not the first time and he's always been treated with disdain. It's sad to see someone like that go to bat for a shower of total fools. :disappointed:

[hoopy]

How come when Shams are having a pop at Bohs its just "an inside track" or other such drivel.
But when anyone else has a pop against Shams its one of the following "bitterness, jealousy or bitterness"?

It's just something we have to get used to :party:

[marinobohs]

You're embarrassing yourself because(1) you can't get over Sunday's humiliation. However FAI cover up/Tippex is hilarious. You've obviously forgotten that Bohs(2) cheated the 65% for every week bar the last one last season. What I always find funny as well regarding (3) the ground situation is that Bohs fans either don't know or choose to ignore how they were handed Dalymount themselves. I was shown a copy of (4) a post yesterday taken from the Bohs forum from a genuine bloke trying to help his club out by continuing to tell the truth. Apparently it's not the first time and he's always been treated with disdain. It's sad to see someone like that go to bat for a shower of total fools. :disappointed:

(1) Only one mentioning sunday (ad nauseum) is you. no trophy for it. (2) bohs broke no rules unlike the tallaght forgers (according to the football authority - the FAI) (3) our ground - something shams cant say since 1980's (and probobly never will again. (4) "a post" - out of how many posts on that site ??? thinest, most silly point in a long time (and to be fair you have raised the bar in silly points) quoting ONE post ??????

Getting boring now so as I have adressed all the ramblings you call points i think its time we all moved on....:o

[hoopy]

(1) Only one mentioning sunday (ad nauseum) is you. no trophy for it. (2) bohs broke no rules unlike the tallaght forgers (according to the football authority - the FAI) (3) our ground - something shams cant say since 1980's (and probobly never will again. (4) "a post" - out of how many posts on that site ??? thinest, most silly point in a long time (and to be fair you have raised the bar in silly points) quoting ONE post ??????

Getting boring now so as I have adressed all the ramblings you call points i think its time we all moved on....:o

No, I want you to keep roofjumping. On the ground, considering you lot keep saying we got a ground 'handed to us', why don't you tell the good people on here how Bohs came to own Dalymount? On the post, that was my point! It's sad from a Bohs perspective that so few people had the courage to stand up to Conway. On the game on Sunday, all you're bitching all week is because you can't get over it and you're club is dying a death. Have to say though you do make the odd funny comments like Bohs broke no rules. It's all in the past though, what counts is the future. Well for us anyway.

[Réiteoir]

No, I want you to keep roofjumping. On the ground, considering you lot keep saying we got a ground 'handed to us', why don't you tell the good people on here how Bohs came to own Dalymount? On the post, that was my point! It's sad from a Bohs perspective that so few people had the courage to stand up to Conway. On the game on Sunday, all you're bitching all week is because you can't get over it and you're club is dying a death. Have to say though you do make the odd funny comments like Bohs broke no rules. It's all in the past though, what counts is the future. Well for us anyway.

Like the cleaning of a house... It Never Ends.
With Gabriella DeFarge as Gabriella St. Farge. Allegra Hamilton as Sister Bernadette and Roxy Monoxide. And as Dr. Tad Winslow... Moe Szyslak.

[hoopy]

Like the cleaning of a house... It Never Ends.
With Gabriella DeFarge as Gabriella St. Farge. Allegra Hamilton as Sister Bernadette and Roxy Monoxide. And as Dr. Tad Winslow... Moe Szyslak.

And Hitler as Bohs chairman :D

[marinobohs]

Like the cleaning of a house... It Never Ends.
With Gabriella DeFarge as Gabriella St. Farge. Allegra Hamilton as Sister Bernadette and Roxy Monoxide. And as Dr. Tad Winslow... Moe Szyslak.

Yea Reiteoir, but you got to laugh, the longer it goes on the more deranged the stuff spouted (roofjumping ??????WTF) and this by the way is a thread about "Rovers accounts". Anyone else recall last year when Bohs accounts were under the microscope how any mention of shams was infarcted (Yep, that was you P STU). nice to see the rules "relaxed" when it comes to the model club dragging bohs in.......

[passerrby]

Not sure I understand the question. Are we re-writnig history, not how I remember it?

it appears that your posters over the last few years seem to imply that you somehow saved the club throught shrewd planning ,wise council and forward planning when in fact you landed in the **** and came out smelling of roses

[dcfcsteve]

If it's boring you steve, don't open the thread. Like, duh...

It's like a car crash, or when they warn you on TV that some ugly scenes are about to be shown on the news.

You know it's wrong, but you just can't help but look....

[Mario]

Boo-hoo to some of the holier than holy waffle on this thread.

Often its forgotten that football is largely a cash business.

Herald claimed last year of a player "earning" 50 quid getting more on the sly.

Shame the author wouldnt expose the club and player involved.

[Mario]

it appears that your posters over the last few years seem to imply that you somehow saved the club throught shrewd planning ,wise council and forward planning when in fact you landed in the **** and came out smelling of roses

You are wrong there passerby, the 400 club in effect forced the club into administration by refusing the hand over any more of the susbscriptions until certain questions were answered and assurances given.

These answers etc were promised but never came ...

In the meantime the subs kept rolling in and thats where the 250,000 ish used to buy half the club along with Ray Wilson came from!

[dfx-]

I really like how mb doesn't address a single point of hoopy's and that passerrby added "in fact" to no fact whatsoever :)

[Mr A]

And I like the fact that there has been no attempt to explain how these losses came about from any of the Rovers fans.

Sometimes it seems that the Bohs/Rovers default bickering is a convenient cover for both to avoid actually discussing issues about their clubs.

[passerrby]

You are wrong there passerby, the 400 club in effect forced the club into administration by refusing the hand over any more of the susbscriptions until certain questions were answered and assurances given.

These answers etc were promised but never came ...

In the meantime the subs kept rolling in and thats where the 250,000 ish used to buy half the club along with Ray Wilson came from!

is that not the same as saying the bank forced you into administration as it would not give the club any more money. although i do agree the 400 club was a great lifeline and a welcome addition to the club. my point was that the circumstances were not of your making but were a result of poor management. the fact that the 400 club was waiting in the wings to take over after the disaster was not a buisness plan. as for the stadium i dont think that was anything to to with forward planning but as i said falling into **** and coming out smelling of roses.
p.s sorry for the use of the phrase "in fact" .this is only my belief and nothing more

[Mario]

The fact that the 400 club was waiting in the wings to take over after the disaster was not a buisness plan.

Yes, this old board didnt plan for the 400c to take over but the 400c hit the ground running when they took over and had a business plan in place.

:p

[HulaHoop]

is that not the same as saying the bank forced you into administration as it would not give the club any more money. although i do agree the 400 club was a great lifeline and a welcome addition to the club. my point was that the circumstances were not of your making but were a result of poor management. the fact that the 400 club was waiting in the wings to take over after the disaster was not a buisness plan. as for the stadium i dont think that was anything to to with forward planning but as i said falling into **** and coming out smelling of roses.
p.s sorry for the use of the phrase "in fact" .this is only my belief and nothing more

Not quite, the 400 club was funding Rovers in 2003 and 2004. During that time Maguire (former chairman) was promising the deals to fund Tallaght were nearly there. After 18 months of listening to his ******ology the 400 club realised he was nothing but a bull**** artist screwing the club. At the end of the 2004 season the 400 club stopped funding SRFC in an effort to force the then board out. It also held meetings with the FAI and blew the whistle on the dodgy accounts the Maguire board had submitted. Without the continued funding from the 400 club SRFC was in grave trouble and Maguire had no option but to put the club into examinership (on 400 club advice) in April 2005. As soon as an examiner was put in place the 400 club took control and ran the club. Examinership lasted 3 months during which time the 400 club had to pay the players over inflated salaries which the Maguire board had sanctioned. These 3 months of examinership drained most of the funds the 400 club had leaving only about 250k to buy the club and pay off creditors which wouldn't have been enough. The 400 club teamed up with Ray Wilson in a 50 50 partnership and the rest they say is history. All in all the 400 club would have pumped close to €1 million into SRFC up to the end of 2005.

[PartySaint]

Does Ray Wilson (dont no anything about him) still put money into the club or is he just a regular member now??

[HulaHoop]

Probably shouldn't be posting this here but I don't see why it would be top secret.

As each year passes and the members club (formerly 400 club) keeps investing more money into SRFC, Ray's shareholding dilutes until eventually the members club will have 100% ownership of SRFC.

[Mario]

Regular member, his original 50% share holding has been diluted over time as the members monthly subs keep rolling in. He said all along that he didnt put the money in as an "investment" but just to help save the club he loves.

[Jicked]

Is young hungry Dan Murray playing for free??

What about young, hungry Keith Gillespie that was on trial the other day??

To suggest that MON is somehow the "start of a new breed of more prudent manager" because he spends less than Nutsy Fenlon is sanctimonious nonsense. The vast majority of managers in thie league operate to very tight budgets and in a lot of cases have been doing so for years.

Lets not over egg the pudding. ;)

If Rovers do win the league this year, or if Pats do, then for the first time in years and years we'll have a Championship winning side built on a sustainable budget. That does suggest a certain shift from recent years if it does happen.

[Macy]

If Rovers do win the league this year, or if Pats do, then for the first time in years and years we'll have a Championship winning side built on a sustainable budget. That does suggest a certain shift from recent years if it does happen.
Really? Given the losses an the accounts with the CRO?

[Jicked]

Yes. Even if you take that as gospel, which I certainly wouldn't by any means, the debt incurred is nothing like what Shels, Drogheda, Cork and Bohs have run up to. I have no idea what Pats financial sitaution is, but judging by the cutbacks made to their squad this year, I'd presume it's a manageable budget.