Shamrock Rovers Fans!

[White Horse]

Fran Gavin: "'Shamrock Rovers are owned by the supporters and they have worked very closely with their supporters and have been a model club in that area and have worked well in the community."

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2010/0504/gavinf.html


"Model club" , "community", blah blah blah.

[Dodge]

Ah, so its the community's fault then?

[Sam_Heggy]

Ah, so its the community's fault then?

No, it's Salthill, Monaghan, Mervue and UCD's fault for bringing the scum element into our beautiful well run league. Disgraceful clubs they are.

[Quadruple1928]

Fran Gavin really is a fool, he talks an awful lot of waffle. To think he has a senior role in Irish football, think its time to go Francis.

[RoRo]

Rovers should definitely be fined for this.......but we all know they won't or if they are it will be some piddly token gesture amount.

Interesting post by Ezeikial on their lack of cooperation aswell.

As for Fran I don't think his rubbish comments today are a suprise at all. Him and the FAI are so pro Rovers it's sickening.

[wexfordned]

Fran Gavin really is a fool, he talks an awful lot of waffle. To think he has a senior role in Irish football, think its time to go Francis.

Everytime Fran Gavin is on tv he comes out with the same rubbish, how Rovers are the example for the league, everyone should copy them etc.

If he actually took a hard line (meaningful fines etc.) against the club instead of all his inane waffle it would actually force the club to deal with the issues.

Instead we just have to hope Shamrock win at the weekend to avoid any potential for trouble & the officials don't make any decisions that might upset the shamrock fans

[joeSoap]

If he actually took a hard line (meaningful fines etc.) against the club instead of all his inane waffle it would actually force the club to deal with the issues.

Instead we just have to hope Shamrock win at the weekend to avoid any potential for trouble & the officials don't make any decisions that might upset the shamrock fans It always saddens me to an extent to hear people call for the club to be punished, the club to be hit with a massive fine etc. The people that run Shamrock Rovers Football Club are good, honest football people. They have worked wonders with very limited resources these past few years to develop the club to what it is today and they should all be very proud. They cannot be responsible for who decides to support them. Over the years, especially in the late 70's I can remember savage violence at LOI games involving clubs like Sligo Rovers, Waterford and Dundalk when they came to Limerick. At all times both parties were to blame. Our bus was stoned in Dalymount in 1982 at the Cup Final by Bohs fans and a 60 year old man had to get 12 stitches in his head.

The Rovers board have nothing to be ashamed of. It's the small minority of scumbags that need to be identified, fined and jailed. Unfortunately it is very hard to deter these people from travelling to away games. Policing needs to be scrutinised more outside the ground with a better screening process in place for known troublemakers. Examples need to be made of these people in the courts and the media

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

There are far too many to post. The sillyness on here is unbelievable , one would swear that every club was devoid of a hooilgan element and innocent of incidents such as this.

From my own experience supporting Rovers:
Shels "fans" showering us in 50p's on leaving Tolka (years back)
Bohs "fans" storming Garda cordon's outside Dalymount
Pats "fans" crossing the pitch to confront the Rovers fans, followed by the destruction of their own ground.
Dundalk "fans" tossing ball bearings being into the away end
Trouble in The Brandywell with the "fans" and Stewarts
Cars and Busses vandalised in Cork and drogheda

This isn't an isolated Shamrock Rovers incident this is mostly leagues wide (bar the lesser supported clubs, UCD, Bray ect.)

I think most posters should be looking at their own house before the condem others, time for common sense, though it does seem to be that common around here.

Fair enough everyone has their own problems but I certainly don't believe that it's as bad as ye have it. That's twice this season already where your fans have caused trouble at a match (coming onto the pitch against Pats as well) which is a pretty bad ratio.

I do believe that Shams have to get some sort of fine over this. I think we got a fine last season for some banners from the Forza Rovers crew after the McGuinness / Boco racist incident. The Forza boys don't make up anywhere near the majority of our fans whatsoever but the club suffered because of this. What happened last night is certainly worse then that I would think

[OneRedArmy]

It always saddens me to an extent to hear people call for the club to be punished, the club to be hit with a massive fine etc. The people that run Shamrock Rovers Football Club are good, honest football people. They have worked wonders with very limited resources these past few years to develop the club to what it is today and they should all be very proud. They cannot be responsible for who decides to support them. Over the years, especially in the late 70's I can remember savage violence at LOI games involving clubs like Sligo Rovers, Waterford and Dundalk when they came to Limerick. At all times both parties were to blame. Our bus was stoned in Dalymount in 1982 at the Cup Final by Bohs fans and a 60 year old man had to get 12 stitches in his head.

The Rovers board have nothing to be ashamed of. It's the small minority of scumbags that need to be identified, fined and jailed. Unfortunately it is very hard to deter these people from travelling to away games. Policing needs to be scrutinised more outside the ground with a better screening process in place for known troublemakers. Examples need to be made of these people in the courts and the mediaAgree 100%.

The FAI should be working with the Gardai and the clubs to maintain a database of banned individuals who are not permitted entry to LoI grounds. If there are legal obstacles to this, they should be sorted out. Other countries can do it, so should we.

If at that point clubs don't enforce banning orders, then throw the book at them. But the FAI and Gardai need to take the lead on this IMO.

[kd16]

What bothers me the most is the joy that most other fans are greeting this with. FFS lads its pathetic, take off the blinkers and see it for what it is. Ugly scenes no doubt, scumbags indeed, but it was 20 lads out of hundreds. They're on live TV, hopefully the board or the Gardia will take action and they wont be let into any LOI ground for the foreseeable future. More productive than a points deduction or heavy fine but not what most here want to see, predictably. This sort of petty point scoring is embarrassing.

[Ciaran W]

The most annoying thing for me is the fact that they are talking about it on the news and on the radio stations, but they wouldn't talk about the irish matches if they're had been no trouble. .if your goin to show all the bad stuff on the news you have to show the good stuff and the matches every week as well,they can all go fcuk off with their ''premier league". And im not saying that the rovers fans were right to do this,there was just a group of 20 or so scumbags who ruined the game for everybody !

[Louth4sam]

who ruined the game for everybody !

Speak for yourself. Ref only played 88 minutes when we were holding on for a draw. Your scumbags did us a favour! :D

[White Horse]

The most annoying thing for me is the fact that they are talking about it on the news and on the radio stations, but they wouldn't talk about the irish matches if they're had been no trouble. .if your goin to show all the bad stuff on the news you have to show the good stuff and the matches every week as well,they can all go fcuk off with their ''premier league". And im not saying that the rovers fans were right to do this,there was just a group of 20 or so scumbags who ruined the game for everybody !

Once trouble like this happens, the usual suspects will be on the airwaves and media criticising the LOI.

All clubs (not just Rovers) have to rid themselves of their scumbag element. Enticing families to games is the way forward and scenes like last night put off a lot of peole.

[chippie0001]

In fairness this does seem a bit over blown. I guess having the director of the FAI/ the minister for justice there and the game live on TV does make it hard to sweep away. Bohs had a similar event in Bray last year, game stopped/ police on the pitch etc although not for as long. Its not quiet at the level of Wednesday fans attacking palace players on Sunday and yet we hear nothing about that. People like to knock the league and its supporters, we should not join in.

That said the idiots involved last night did drag their own clubs name through the muck, it should be up to Rovers to sort out.

[Macy]

Fran Gavin: "'Shamrock Rovers are owned by the supporters and they have worked very closely with their supporters and have been a model club in that area and have worked well in the community."

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2010/0504/gavinf.html


"Model club" , "community", blah blah blah.
I don't see the contradiction. The ownership model of Rovers is the sort of model that the League should be promoting. That doesn't mean they get everything right or don't deserve to be punished. The FAI made licencing a farce to bend over backwards for privately owned Cork City - they fudge for the "big" clubs, not on ownership.

[saint dog]

There are far too many to post. The sillyness on here is unbelievable , one would swear that every club was devoid of a hooilgan element and innocent of incidents such as this.

From my own experience supporting Rovers:
Shels "fans" showering us in 50p's on leaving Tolka (years back)
Bohs "fans" storming Garda cordon's outside Dalymount
Pats "fans" crossing the pitch to confront the Rovers fans, followed by the destruction of their own ground.
Dundalk "fans" tossing ball bearings being into the away end
Trouble in The Brandywell with the "fans" and Stewarts
Cars and Busses vandalised in Cork and drogheda

This isn't an isolated Shamrock Rovers incident this is mostly leagues wide (bar the lesser supported clubs, UCD, Bray ect.)

I think most posters should be looking at their own house before the condem others, time for common sense, though it does seem to be that common around here.

your digging a hole there mate
theres list a long if not longer on just rovers fans alone incidents , everyone here knows its a small minority of so called rovers fans that cause these headlines but its up to yous at your club to fix it.
theres been two major incidents this season from supporters one last night and one against st pats in tallaght .
its no coincident that both incidents involved so called rovers fans

[Dyl10]

The most annoying thing for me is the fact that they are talking about it on the news and on the radio stations, but they wouldn't talk about the irish matches if they're had been no trouble. .if your goin to show all the bad stuff on the news you have to show the good stuff and the matches every week as well

Nah, that's rubbish.
I wouldn't expect my Leinster Senior League match to be on TV, but if I killed someone in it, I would.
The news shows extreme stories/stories of interest, that's the nature of it.

[Ciaran W]

Im talking about rte news and all the radio stations giving big reports on all the premierleague matches but they tell you the results of the irish matches in 5 seconds flat. They dont even tell you the scorers ffs !

[White Horse]

I don't see the contradiction. The ownership model of Rovers is the sort of model that the League should be promoting.

Apparently being a "model club" makes one immune to criticism and censure. Even when fans go on a rampage, attack the Guards, and try to cause the abandonment of game, the FAI appear on the air lauding Rovers as a "model club".

[Dodge]

They obviously didn't try and get the game abondoned. Jaysus fellah calm down. its a serious enough situation without inventing crap to lump on top of them

[OneRedArmy]

Beyond identifying previously banned individuals to the home club's security at the turnstiles, and working with the Gardai and home club security to identify individuals after the incident, I'm not sure what more Rovers as a club can do when the trouble happens at an away ground?

If the Gardai are too incompetent/lazy/underresourced to arrest and press charges, then they are in effect sanctioning the behaviour that went on. We have a criminal justice system for a reason, and it is this that has to be the primary sanction in these kind of events.

[White Horse]

They obviously didn't try and get the game abondoned. Jaysus fellah calm down. its a serious enough situation without inventing crap to lump on top of them

It is the opinion of other people as well:

Foster last night claimed that the offending section of the Rovers support were trying to get the game abandoned.

"That's what they were trying to do at that point," said Foster, "Thankfully the referee has seen past that and let us play on."

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/angry-clashes-put-league-in-spotlight-2163196.html


You may try and sweep it under the carpet, but to many people in the stadium it was obvious that the Rovers fans were trying to make the rest of the match unplayable.

[pineapple stu]

It is the opinion of other people as well:
Is Foster a schizophrenic? Cos I don't see how he can otherwise remotely be considered "other people".

And anyway, the opinion of an opposing manager is worthless in incidents like this. If you believed everything an opposing manager claimed...

[White Horse]

Is Foster a schizophrenic? Cos I don't see how he can otherwise remotely be considered "other people".

That is what is called an e x a m p l e.

I can give you the names, addresses, and inside leg measurements of others who expressed a similar opinion.

[BrayUnknowns]

In fairness this does seem a bit over blown. I guess having the director of the FAI/ the minister for justice there and the game live on TV does make it hard to sweep away. Bohs had a similar event in Bray last year, game stopped/ police on the pitch etc although not for as long. Its not quiet at the level of Wednesday fans attacking palace players on Sunday and yet we hear nothing about that. People like to knock the league and its supporters, we should not join in.

That said the idiots involved last night did drag their own clubs name through the muck, it should be up to Rovers to sort out.

We had had several issues with away supporters happen in the Carlisle in particular from Bohs and Rovers over the past 5/6 years. Dundalk have also had their moments in the Carlisle Grounds over the past 2 seasons.

Every club has an element that they would rather be without, it is up to each club to sort it out in house, if they do not then they deserve every fine/sanction they get and more.

I would totally disagree with you last sentance. If clubs allow this sort of behaviour or do nothing about it then we as fans should join in and put pressure on the club in question to clean up their act because it's doing the rest of us no favours at all.

[Dodge]

It is the opinion of other people as well:

Foster last night claimed that the offending section of the Rovers support were trying to get the game abandoned.

"That's what they were trying to do at that point," said Foster, "Thankfully the referee has seen past that and let us play on."

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/angry-clashes-put-league-in-spotlight-2163196.html


You may try and sweep it under the carpet, but to many people in the stadium it was obvious that the Rovers fans were trying to make the rest of the match unplayable.
LOL, why would I want it swept under the carpet?

Why would Rovers fans want the match abandoned? they've already lost a few this season, you and the "other people" are clearly insane (or mischievous) if you think they wanted this game called off.

Its ridiculously OTT claims like this that actually help get things "swpt under the carpet" as they can filibuster thier way through this, rather thana ddress the real issues at hand

[Cuyahoga]

It always saddens me to an extent to hear people call for the club to be punished, the club to be hit with a massive fine etc. The people that run Shamrock Rovers Football Club are good, honest football people. They have worked wonders with very limited resources these past few years to develop the club to what it is today and they should all be very proud. They cannot be responsible for who decides to support them. Over the years, especially in the late 70's I can remember savage violence at LOI games involving clubs like Sligo Rovers, Waterford and Dundalk when they came to Limerick. At all times both parties were to blame. Our bus was stoned in Dalymount in 1982 at the Cup Final by Bohs fans and a 60 year old man had to get 12 stitches in his head.

The Rovers board have nothing to be ashamed of. It's the small minority of scumbags that need to be identified, fined and jailed. Unfortunately it is very hard to deter these people from travelling to away games. Policing needs to be scrutinised more outside the ground with a better screening process in place for known troublemakers. Examples need to be made of these people in the courts and the media
Well said Joe Soap,your post is the most sensible so far.

[Dodge]

Except the lads involved last night are very well known to people within Rovers and have been involved in previous incidents. They're not banned form Tallaght either.

If Rovers clamp down on them, they will absolutely get plaudits from people here, the majority of whom are pro Rovers (despite what Rovers fans themselves think - look at any of the Tallaght threads for proff)

[SkStu]

im not going to be too hard on the Rovers posters here as i know that when its your own club that is under the spotlight its very hard not to try and make excuses for or in some way defend how and why it happened. For us last year against Bray it was the Gardai's fault, for Dundalk when they showered Fenlon with coins during an interview it was TG4's fault, today its the referee's fault.

The simple fact of the matter is that it is a small percentage of people who are causing these headlines. However, the comments of Fran Gavin are irresponsible and he should be applying pressure on SRFC to try and eliminate this problem. In his rush to defend them he has actually only made the potential for future incidents more likely. I know Bohemians have tried to stamp out the problem since Derry with varying degrees of success. There are still occasional incidents and occasional mistakes in admitting trouble makers but i think a good job has been done overall.

It would be nice to see some genuine response from Rovers and the League on this. From what i have seen of it, it was actually a pretty stupid incident but very noticeable and, unfortunately, the damage has been done in the public eye.

[KK77]

Well said.

[White Horse]

Shamrock Rovers Football Club condemns the behaviour of the 10 to 15 so called ‘fans’ at last night’s Airtricity League match against Dundalk in Oriel Park, which was attended by over 500 Rovers supporters.

http://www.shamrockrovers.ie/news/35-news/1331-club-statement-on-oriel-park-incidents

Are they having a laugh? 10 to 15? LOL

[Macy]

Obviously Longfords hooligan problem hasn't been as prominent in recent seasons, but isn't it about time some of the focus was also put on the cops rather than just the clubs? How many were arrested last night, let alone charged? As far as I'm aware we don't have banning orders in our legislation a la the UK, so maybe the Minister for Justice who was present in Oriel and suitably offended to go on the News at One might like to bring forward legislation so these people can be stopped attending whether clubs want to or not? It'd be a lot easier for clubs to bar people who had charges brought, cases pending or convictions in the courts rather than having to rely on some quasi judicial process of their own.

[OneRedArmy]

Obviously Longfords hooligan problem hasn't been as prominent in recent seasons, but isn't it about time some of the focus was also put on the cops rather than just the clubs? How many were arrested last night, let alone charged? As far as I'm aware we don't have banning orders in our legislation a la the UK, so maybe the Minister for Justice who was present in Oriel and suitably offended to go on the News at One might like to bring forward legislation so these people can be stopped attending whether clubs want to or not? It'd be a lot easier for clubs to bar people who had charges brought, cases pending or convictions in the courts rather than having to rely on some quasi judicial process of their own.Spot on Macy.

Reports are that nobody was arrested and charged. If its so obvious to the Minister for Justice that widespread criminal actions have been committed, why doesn't he get off his arse and ask the Garda Commissioner, to whom he has indirect accountability for, what action is taken place and what charges are pending? If, as has been said above, no action was taken, then the Commissioner should be asked to account for his forces inaction, rather than praised for doing half their job.

[Acornvilla]

remember the time they caused a minny rtiot at flancare? i guess that didnt happen either :)

[Martinho II]

remember the time they caused a minny rtiot at flancare? i guess that didnt happen either :)

remember that well.. I got caught up in it at half time when walkin across to the club shop and had to do a runner after they tried to barge past our stewards! the memories of it all came back last nite watchin it!

[Scooby Doo]

Put it this way, the only time when all pubs in the southern end/Park Street/Carrick Rd/Cresent area of Dundalk close their doors are when there is a traveller funeral nearby or when Shamrock Rovers come to town. Says alot.

[RoversHead]

Obviously Longfords hooligan problem hasn't been as prominent in recent seasons, but isn't it about time some of the focus was also put on the cops rather than just the clubs? How many were arrested last night, let alone charged? As far as I'm aware we don't have banning orders in our legislation a la the UK, so maybe the Minister for Justice who was present in Oriel and suitably offended to go on the News at One might like to bring forward legislation so these people can be stopped attending whether clubs want to or not? It'd be a lot easier for clubs to bar people who had charges brought, cases pending or convictions in the courts rather than having to rely on some quasi judicial process of their own.Spot on!

[Dillonman]

TV3 this morning said the game was marred by crowd trouble, never said to do with what, just said crowd trouble and showed a few pictures off Setanta, absolute joke, Dundalk fans had absolutely nothing to do with it and they couldn't even clarify that.

[Spudulika]

This will disappear when the next "story" comes about - ie Fingal going bust, Pat Fenlon admitting he's actually Trevor Andersons lovechild, or even when another bunch of half heads start a row. Proper legislation, jail terms and points deductions will only begin to work.

[SMorgan]

One thing's for sure, those Rovers trouble-makers were not schooligans. Most of them appeared to be in their late 20s, 30s and even early 40s.

[Mad Moose]

The moronic "holier than thou" routine that will go off is laughable, no football fan can call any other team a disgrace for what the moronic hooligan element do. All the clubs we support unfortunitly have this element, its up to the real fans, the organisers of clubs, the FAI all to combine just like we do on the Racisim issue and wipe this embarrasment out.

obviously your fans are "saints", I was there in Richmond when a minority of you "fans" ran across the pitch comnfronting the full rovers support, mostly to laughs and jeers, they even tried to storm the dressing rooms, your club is not exempt, none is.

The fools who do this ruin it for everyone, in a very real way, from the fear in people around them, to action taken against the club.

in short: NO CLUB IS FREE OF FOOLISH ELEMENTS

I agree with your last sentence but that is a world apart from your opening paragraph which claims 'all the clubs we support have this element'. Well thats really not true at all and while I would most definetely agree that fans can make foolish decisions, I have done so myself in my time, that is world's away from been branded a hooligan. I'd be hard pushed to recall an incident of hooliganism involving a Finn Harps fan, a Monaghan Utd fan or even a UCD fan.

In relation to Shams I think some of the critisism is a little unfair. They have a responsibility and there are actions they can take but this is a new era for them and with relocation to a new community this will have brought along a new generation of supporters. There will always be an element of society who will use football as a vehicle for their anti social behaviour. I'm sure historically much football related hooliganism had less to do with football and more to do with a select section of society to express themselves, all the while disguising it in football.

Somebody mentioned a Shams director at the bar. What could he have done? Would any of these perpetrators known who is was let alone listen to him. The problem here is this scum element who have once again tarnished the game have been able to act out this behaviour in the nmae of Shamrock Rovers and get away with it. Incentive enough to do it again. I think so. The other point is this is an away day for these idiots. A chance to go and exact thuggish behaviour outside their normal patch.

I'm sure enough fans here saw the faces of these idiots and would know whether they were new followers or seasoned supporters. As Ciaran knew a few of them I assume they are schoolgoing kids. New supporters then. Its wouldn't be hard to identify each and every one of them and shame them and disown them. Fines and point deductions only hurt the hard work clubs undertake to improve themselves and the standard of the league. It hurts the 99% of fans who just want to support their team and maybe dream of some potential reward for doing so.

[Réiteoir]

One thing's for sure, those Rovers trouble-makers were not schooligans. Most of them appeared to be in their late 20s, 30s and even early 40s.

They were Secondary Schooligans iirc

[tallaghthoop]

Some of these scumbags have been at it for years, time and time again....did you see the guy that pulled his top over his head briefly thats the same guy who held a blow-up doll aloft in tallaght with a Bohs Jersey on thinking he was the man, then proceeded to burn it in the family stand.....what action was taken..ZERO. There was faces there i have seen involved for at least the last 10 years and ZERO has been done. Take a trip to the Maldron any match day in Tallaght and you will see the Danny Dyer crew drinking from hours before kick off, Mouthing off to anyone who'll listen, then full of soup they move outside and pick on families with children enjoying a day out a League of Ireland game, maybe there first and probably there last.

I have no faith that the club will do anything but sweep it under the carpet or ban a few names but no faces if you know what i mean. Personally i think they are scared of these people and feel intimadated by them, there is no other logical reason why you would let scum like this do what they have done to the club you love. Its time genuine fans in Tallaght voted with their feet, we might get some action then. If its one thing that the board in Tallaght don't like its money walking away.

[Ciaran W]

The funny thing about these lads is that none of them have the slightest clue about football and couldn't even name the starting 11

[GGAJD]

Some of these scumbags have been at it for years, time and time again....did you see the guy that pulled his top over his head briefly thats the same guy who held a blow-up doll aloft in tallaght with a Bohs Jersey on thinking he was the man, then proceeded to burn it in the family stand.....what action was taken..ZERO. There was faces there i have seen involved for at least the last 10 years and ZERO has been done. Take a trip to the Maldron any match day in Tallaght and you will see the Danny Dyer crew drinking from hours before kick off, Mouthing off to anyone who'll listen, then full of soup they move outside and pick on families with children enjoying a day out a League of Ireland game, maybe there first and probably there last.

I have no faith that the club will do anything but sweep it under the carpet or ban a few names but no faces if you know what i mean. Personally i think they are scared of these people and feel intimadated by them, there is no other logical reason why you would let scum like this do what they have done to the club you love. Its time genuine fans in Tallaght voted with their feet, we might get some action then. If its one thing that the board in Tallaght don't like its money walking away.


WTF are you on about, I go to the maldron before games and I see the w*nkers involved in this. But I can honestly say I've never seen them abusing families walking down the road, the situation is bad enough without you spreading lies.Yes they've been involved in hoolie behaviour for a long time and they now have a junior section looking up to them and it needs to be dealt with ala banning them from Tallaght and the club has dragged their feet in dealing with these knobs for far too long, but throwing in non factual stuff gets us nowhere.

[Youths4Ever]

some people on here seem to blaming all Rovers "fans" but I think many agree it is a small element. Surely Rovers need to get the TV pictures from last night and work with the FAI and ban those involved. This is not a one off incident and several people on here have said then know those involved then do something about it to protect your club and give the name to FAI, police, Rovers board whoever needs to know to try and stop this in future.

Rovers have achieved good things on and off the pitch over the last few years so a firm stance is needed to help protect this and prevent future occurences of this kind of trouble.

[Dodge]

The funny thing about these lads is that none of them have the slightest clue about football and couldn't even name the starting 11

Well if you know them so well I've no doubt you've already reported them

[Mark]

I wonder if any of the 'fans' from last night are members of the 400 club? If so, would there be extra, more severe punishment for the club, considering they would be part of a group who actually run the club.

[Dalymountrower]

Some of these scumbags have been at it for years, time and time again....did you see the guy that pulled his top over his head briefly thats the same guy who held a blow-up doll aloft in tallaght with a Bohs Jersey on thinking he was the man, then proceeded to burn it in the family stand.....what action was taken..ZERO. There was faces there i have seen involved for at least the last 10 years and ZERO has been done. Take a trip to the Maldron any match day in Tallaght and you will see the Danny Dyer crew drinking from hours before kick off, Mouthing off to anyone who'll listen, then full of soup they move outside and pick on families with children enjoying a day out a League of Ireland game, maybe there first and probably there last.

I have no faith that the club will do anything but sweep it under the carpet or ban a few names but no faces if you know what i mean. Personally i think they are scared of these people and feel intimadated by them, there is no other logical reason why you would let scum like this do what they have done to the club you love. Its time genuine fans in Tallaght voted with their feet, we might get some action then. If its one thing that the board in Tallaght don't like its money walking away.

Thats a brave post. One of the hoped for benefits of larger crowds in Tallaght would be that it would dilute the influence of these hard men. There was a time when Rovers significantly relied on them for financial support but I would think with crowds averaging 3-.5 k thats no longer the case?
Hopefully the Rovers members who do not fear these people will use the Oriel incident to get rid of them from their club and from Irish football for good.

[TonyD]

The most annoying thing for me is the fact that they are talking about it on the news and on the radio stations, but they wouldn't talk about the irish matches if they're had been no trouble. .if your goin to show all the bad stuff on the news you have to show the good stuff and the matches every week as well,they can all go fcuk off with their ''premier league". And im not saying that the rovers fans were right to do this,there was just a group of 20 or so scumbags who ruined the game for everybody !

Have to say I agree with this. Main item on the RTE sports news at Six tonight, Main story on the back page of the Herald, plus a smaller story inside. Not saying it shouldn't be reported, not saying the incident wasn't totally out of order. Just frustrating when you know damn well that nothing that happens ON THE PITCH in this league will ever get that type of coverage. RTE report didn't even seem to know the Rovers managers name. Oh and BTW I do think Rovers deserve a sizeable fine (Not points deduction though, that would be OTT). It was scumbaggery of the highest order when all is said and done. Fine game as well, which makes it all the more frustrating. Dundalk were very impressive. Tough game ahead for Pats on Friday I think.