2010 Licences

[Celdrog]

The only criteria for an away section of any ground is the availability of some covered seats to away fans which there is at Oriel. So if you have a problem with getting wet at Oriel I suggest you pay the extra few bob to get a seat in the designated away seating at the front of the stand in oriel.I actually do sit in the stand.
But the licensing manual calls for refreshments for away fans (not available on the terrace), disabled toilets (not there), emergency lighting (twice we've had to walk out of Oriel in the pitch dark), permanent water fonts (none there) and turnstiles(unsure about this one but as far as I can rememberwe buy our tickets outside at the caravan and go through the big gate showing the ticket to the stewards).
Personally it makes no difference to me about these but technically they are a breach of licensing. UP has a lot more than that wrong with it but the FAI gave the licence last year based on their plans (which they never followed up) and presumably this year on the basis that they have permission to rectify the issues.
I bet its probable that a lot of grounds have similar issues that are in breach.

In here if you are interested (http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=100382:licensing-2010-manual&catid=75:about-fai&Itemid=322)

[Doomofman]

http://www.stpatsfc.com/news.php?id=3461


15/02/2010 [19:35]
SAINTS RECEIVE PREMIER DIVISION LICENSE
St Patrick’s Athletic have this evening been informed by the club Licence Committee that they have been granted a club licence for the 2010 season.

Speaking today Club Licence Manager Philip Nolan said.” The club licensing process is an important part of the league I would like to thank all the people at the club that played a part in securing the club licence”

[Doomofman]

Drogs got Premier licence as well

[CSFShels]

Shels have also got a Premier Licence.

[Mark Breen]

Link to CSFShels message above

http://www.shelbournefc.ie/news.php?id=1421

[Doomofman]

So far...

Premier Licence:

St Pats
Drogheda
Shels
Longford
Monaghan

[Longfordian]

LTFC got theirs as well. Premier Licence.

[Magicme]

Add Mons to your list of Premier Licences there! :D

[Jofspring]

Add Mons to your list of Premier Licences there! :D

Fairplay. Did Mons have a premier or first divison one last season?

[tippex]

So far...

Premier Licence:

St Pats
Drogheda
Shels
Longford
Monaghan

so not being done alphabetically then?

[Doomofman]

so not being done alphabetically then?

I guess not... Ours was the first I noticed... They're posted in the order they were announced AFAIK

[Mark Breen]

Not exactly tippex

It all depends on how quick each team is in putting the info on their website.

[Grey Boy]

In that case we'll let you know sometime next week.
Not exactly tippex

It all depends on how quick each team is in putting the info on their website.

[Doomofman]

I'm going between about 8 different club sites lol

[John83]

so not being done alphabetically then?
They're in reverse alphabetical order by the third consonant. I know that's what I always use.

[Mark Breen]

I'm going between about 8 different club sites lol

Good man, means i don't have to bother :D

i'm just keeping an eye on ccfcforum

[Magicme]

Thanks Jof. Its our 3rd season with a Premier and we are delighted to have retained it.

[Doomofman]

I'm not on there so good work.. I'm going between.. Bohs, Dundalk, Galway, Fingal, Derry, Ucd, Bray, Wexford, Waterford...

[Mark Breen]

Confirmed that Ramblers will play A League this year on according to sniffer1 on CCFCFORRUM.COM

[Mark Breen]

Nothing on http://www.cobhramblers.ie/ though ......

[tippex]

even if we get a premier license it means nothing until an announcement is made about the cork application.

[Doomofman]

That's how my second browser window looks atm

[tippex]

That's how my second browser window looks atm

lol. Good to see I'm not the only sadser....

[Dunny]

Jaysus..

[The Lep]

I'm not on there so good work.. I'm going between.. Bohs, Dundalk, Galway, Fingal, Derry, Ucd, Bray, Wexford, Waterford...

I doubt if it will be up on the Fingal site tonight if you want to save yourself a bit of time .

[luka]

Confirmed that Ramblers will play A League this year on according to sniffer1 on CCFCFORRUM.COM

Tht's confirmed.

[Mark Breen]

Athlone have been awarded a first div licence

http://www.athlonetownfc.ie/?p=920

[Battery Rover]

I only applied for a 1st division license and it was what we received.

[Doomofman]

So far...

Premier Licence:

St Pats
Drogheda
Shels
Longford
Monaghan

First Div:
Athlone
Cobh (maybe)
Limerick

[Mark Breen]

Battery rover, I didn't say anything.... Just mentioned you got one... No shame in only getting a 1st div licence, not like you were ever going to be in the running to take corks place should they not get a prem licence, that honour will go to Bray... The Shel's... Then Waterford etc....

[tippex]

theyve bottled it..... http://www.loi.ie/index.php/about/press-office/1404-independent-club-licencing-committee-awards-2010-licences

Neither cork nor foras are mentioned.

[Doomofman]

How did they bottle it? Cork didn't get any licence

[Mark Breen]

http://www.loi.ie/index.php/about/press-office/1404-independent-club-licencing-committee-awards-2010-licences

Woops bit late posting.....

[tippex]

How did they bottle it? Cork didn't get any licence

because Foras aren't mentioned.

[Doomofman]

because Foras aren't mentioned.

How's that bottling it though? Maybe they just didn't qualify for a licence

[Longfordian]

The Independent Club Licensing Committee has deferred its decision on Cork City until after the High Court case comes in for mention on Monday, February 22nd next.

In making its decision, the Independent Club Licensing Committee noted that one of the fundamental principles of club licensing is the protection of creditors such as club employees, other clubs and the Revenue.

The Independent Club Licensing Committee was made aware of a potential takeover which may result in commitments to creditors being honoured. As this takeover is dependent on the outcome of the High Court order, the Independent Committee felt it prudent to await that outcome and give maximum opportunity for creditors to be paid.

The application from FORAS has been deferred pending the outcome of the Cork City decision.

Makes little sense, the takeover is dependent on a Licence. The Licence is dependent on the Revenue and others being paid?.

[CSFShels]

Disgusting from the FAI. Horrible horrible horrible bunch of human beings.

[Doomofman]

Ah... So they did bottle it...

[HammerNThongs]

The License should be dependant on the criteria and deadlines set. This is a farce. I pity any side trying to prepare for a season with this kind of leadership shown by the league.

A complete joke. We should have been flat up denied one today and given it to FORAS in the First. I ****ing hate the FAI

[tippex]

maybe no decision now until next monday?
This is getting beyond a joke.....

[Doomofman]

maybe no decision now until next monday?
This is getting beyond a joke.....

That's assuming the high court case doesn't get deferred again

[Battery Rover]

Battery rover, I didn't say anything.... Just mentioned you got one...

Had that posted before I saw your post wasnt getting onto anyone. Was my first full season concentrating on liscensing properly without have the secretary job as well so will improve it to a Premier next season hopefully

[The Lep]

It sounds like if the takeover takes place and all money paid then they will get a premier licence. The FAI MIGHT then give Cork a points deduction . If the independent commitee grant cork a licence can the Fai then refuse them a place in the league as punishment?

[bluewater]

maybe no decision now until next monday?
This is getting beyond a joke.....


Does this mean we have to wait another week for fixtures?

[WoodquayBoy]

For those who couldn't be bothered clicking on the link:
14 Premier licences granted - Bohs, Bray, Dundalk, Drogheda, Galway, Longford, Mons, Shels, Shams, Sligo, Pats, Fingal, UCD and Waterford
7 First Division - Athlone, Derry, Harps, Limerick, Mervue, Salthill and Wexford
5 A Championship - Castlebar, Cobh, Carlow, Tralee and Tullamore

[tippex]

Does this mean we have to wait another week for fixtures?

It certainly looks like it yes.

[higgins]

So what happens if Cork City FC get a premier licence?
Don't then they have to be punished for the crap Cork City FC done over the 2009 season?

A change of owner doesn't mean Cork City FC are great again!

Shels had a change of owner the year they rid us rock solid.. all before 65% and when we had deals in place and paid our revenue debts before the High Cout date.

This really is crazy stuff from the FAI

[weecountyman]

You know, reading through the cop out that is the loi release, it actually can league to something very positive.

1. 14 teams have Premier licences, leave them all in the Premier - a 12 team league played on 4 rounds (top 8 and bottom 6 divide after 2 rounds) with each club playing 32 games. What you do to spice it up is have the points of all sides after the first two rounds (as an option) or basically it means the top eight sides have a chance to fight for Europe while the bottom six can trim budgets etc - built in clauses for player salary reduction and so on.

2. 12 teams currently have 1st and A licences, throw them all in together, add Cork in and you have a decent league.

3. Run a league below the top 2 with reserve sides and any other potential sides looking for promotion to the top 2 leagues.

Just a thought

[Longfordian]

It sounds like if the takeover takes place and all money paid then they will get a premier licence. The FAI MIGHT then give Cork a points deduction . If the independent commitee grant cork a licence can the Fai then refuse them a place in the league as punishment?

Will the takeover proceed without Cork having been awarded a Premier Licence?. If there was even the off chance that they weren't going to be awarded the Premier Licence would these guys pay over their money to the other creditors and get them paid off before Monday?. It's still a ridiculous decision either way. Prudent me hole. Cowardly more like.

[prodsc]

Are there not 14 Premier licences?