Turner's future

[CarrickFan]

I don't understand why people think every bit of club business should be played out in public. I'd rather it be kept under wraps until things are confirmed. This would be even mover embarrassing otherwise...


The majority of people who post here are genuine Rovers fans to whom the club means a great deal..i just thought a brief post at some stage through all this would not have gone astray..not looking for all the clubs business to be aired in public..everyone seemed to know what was going on so it was hardly a secret...i take your point though but the club or people in the know who post here are quick to post when it comes to fundraising etc....Turners move in on the Shams website..the only official(ish) post here after over 2 weeks and several pages of speculation was at 11:51am today..saying he was still our player!!!

[Inside Man]

What a bunch of ejits we have running our club. This guy walks in and takes thousands of euro out of our coffers and we get nothing in return. I said it when we signed him that it was a bad bad move, what Irish club in their right mind would sign a player 4 months before the start of the season. No wonder Shams weren't worried, they knew they'd get their man, while the ejits at our club payed his bills for a few months.

[sligorover]

I know that's possibly tongue in cheek but much as I hate them they have done very little wrong in all this.

Tapping up players isn't wrong in your book?

[redobit]

Very disappointed with this whole affair...disappointed with the player although i shouldnt be suprised..and also with the lack of information from the club!!...anyway as has been said its over now and we can move on...cant wait for the fixture list now to see when we get the chance to get the best revenge possible!!

The club cant be expected to give out information until things are finalised. However, now would be a good time for the club to give a press statment, detailing everything people need to know so that the club and the fans can but this behind them and look forward to the season.

[HulaHoop]

Tapping up players isn't wrong in your book?

You can only tap up players if they are under contract at a different club. Turner never had his contract with Sligo validated with the FAI so he was never officially a Sligo player.

[Fivesilver]

Have to say I'm with Rory and redobit on this - we can't expect the club, even in the Twitter age, to be giving constant updates on stuff like this.

Anyway, given his attitude, the departure of Turner will definitely turn out to be a good thing, even if the whole affair could have been a bit smoother.

[gustavo]

You can only tap up players if they are under contract at a different club. Turner never had his contract with Sligo validated with the FAI so he was never officially a Sligo player.

Whether it was validated or not he turned his back on a signed agreement with us

[Redie]

What a bunch of ejits we have running our club. This guy walks in and takes thousands of euro out of our coffers and we get nothing in return. I said it when we signed him that it was a bad bad move, what Irish club in their right mind would sign a player 4 months before the start of the season. No wonder Shams weren't worried, they knew they'd get their man, while the ejits at our club payed his bills for a few months.

And you know all that for fact do you.:(

[clubman]

A great player of that there's no doubt but a good signing he never was going to be. He showed no loyality to Rovers when he left for Bohs, loyality isn't one of his qualities. If he has joined the Hoops they're welcome to him. The lad has problems - a lot of baggage and truthfully Sligo Rovers don't need his type. His ability is unquestionable but his attitude stinks. His record speaks for itself and one has only to look at the number of times he saw red last season to realise he'd not be any real addition to our setup.
Let's move on and forget about this whole episode. There's never been a greater opportunity for a successful season than the one that's about to start. Players are two a penny and it's the clubs that have the upperhand. Should common sense pervail and good preparations put in place then the Bit O' Red will once again live the dream.
Keep the faith!!!

[CarrickFan]

Have to say I'm with Rory and redobit on this - we can't expect the club, even in the Twitter age, to be giving constant updates on stuff like this.

Anyway, given his attitude, the departure of Turner will definitely turn out to be a good thing, even if the whole affair could have been a bit smoother.



Jaysus lads wasnt looking for a running commentary:)...it was going on nearly 3 weeks and ONE official statement on what the situation was would have helped...still dont know what the nature of his contract was,did we get a fee etc etc etc....wouldnt expect constant updates.

[sligofan4ever]

Disgusted with the way Turner has acted, and if our fans boo him, make banners more offensive than the McGuiness Nazi one and songs about Turner, its no more than he deserves with the way he's treated the club who gave him a chance in football. If it weren't for us, where would he be now ?

Hopefully rumours about Russell are true and we can get him in, may well be the better option, would be more commited and have a better attitude for us, and play like he cares for us. Himself and Coneely would be cracking signings. Any update on John Cass and who our 2nd choice keeper will be ?

[showgies]

A great player of that there's no doubt but a good signing he never was going to be.

I think that sums it up perfectly.

We are better without him. We shall move on, although I shall be eagerly looking out for our home fixture vs Shams......should be fun....

[dong]

I can only assume Forza are already at the drawing board for one of their brilliant banners and that it will feature Chris and Seanie.

What has Sean Connor got to do with any of this?

[rob mcdonald]

Get on with making the club stronger, raising funds, getting people to the showgrounds, getting behind the team and management instead of worrying about players who dont want to be at the club and have demonstrated this by leaving or demanding too much. Im sure that our Club management (Club sec i presume is responsible of registration) will be taking care of the Turner issue and maybe its about time this thread was closed and stop wasting time on discussing a lad who seems to have low intellect and doesnt seem to know what he wants. His baby must be have a high IQ if it told him it didnt want to move to Sligo and was only born in Dec. MOVE ON LADS.

[sligoman]

Disappointed with this whole thing but glad it's over. Obviously if Chris is getting more money at Shams or if it suited his family better to play there then he's going to do it. He doesn't need to have any loyalty to Rovers, he's not from Sligo. Football is just a job for him, as it is with 99% of footballers these days, there is no loyalty, quicker people start realising this the better. How many of you are loyal to you're job if another employer came after ye which suited you better?

What I would like to know though is if he had signed an official contract with us then why was he let go(unless we got money for him which we don't know yet)? If he wasn't under a contract, why were we paying him and do we get that money back? Hopefully the club will clarify something regarding his contract.

[sligofan4ever]

Disappointed with this whole thing but glad it's over. Obviously if Chris is getting more money at Shams or if it suited his family better to play there then he's going to do it. He doesn't need to have any loyalty to Rovers, he's not from Sligo. Football is just a job for him, as it is with 99% of footballers these days, there is no loyalty, quicker people start realising this the better.

What I would like to know though is if he had signed an official contract with us then why was he let go(unless we got money for him which we don't know yet)? If he wasn't under a contract, why were we paying him and do we get that money back? Hopefully the club will clarify something regarding this.

If he was under contract surely he wouldn't have been allowed join Shams just like that as he would've been joining a 3rd different clubs in quick succession ?

[Rover'n'out]

He showed no loyality to Rovers when he left for Bohs, loyality isn't one of his qualities ......... The lad has problems - a lot of baggage and truthfully Sligo Rovers don't need his type. ........... Keep the faith!!!


Well said Clubman. I am extremely disappointed TBH, but Turner is a t*sser quite frankly! Lets move on and hope we can attract decent players who want to play for us. I think Turner could have been a problem in the dessing room if he did not want to be here.

[sligorover]

If he was under contract surely he wouldn't have been allowed join Shams just like that as he would've been joining a 3rd different clubs in quick succession ?
You know as well as I do that the rules don't apply to the big Dublin clubs. This whole situation is absolute bullsh1t.

[The Stars]

Heard he is back in Sligo ready to re-resign.

[celticV3]

Thankfully this is all over. Was delighted to hear he had signed but after this saga and all the uncertainty its best if he leaves. If his head was all over the place then its better he didn't pull on a rovers jersey. No player deserves all the attention this thread has got. He's gone so time to look forward to future signings.

[sligoman]

http://www.extratime.ie/newsdesk/articles/2841/


At least Rovers have reacted straight away.Good to see we're not letting it go. Obviously unlikely he's going to stay here(doubt we'd want him to now) but at least we might get some money for it.

[Boo_Boy]

Let's just accept a fair play award and move on.

[red bellied]

The gist of that statement sounds like Rovers have got nothing at all from Shams and the club is out of pocket paying Turners wages since the middle of November.

[Kevin L]

Lads, there's not really a lot more we can say on this at the minute as it obviously is going to go a certain route. As I said last night, Chris Turner has signed a contract with Sligo Rovers.
Let's leave it for a wee while and see what happens.
As soon as there is any further developements, we will let you know.

[rovers100%]

surely this free's up the budget for another quality player. i would take boco back on an improved offer if he is willing to return. losing morrison and boco will be huge as they were our most creative players and even the most critical fan of morrison must concede when boco and morrison were on form sligo rovers were on form !!!
we seriously need 2 central midfielders going on last years form. in the middle of the park last year we lacked bite and creativity and it cost us dearly. i hope turners and boco's wages are put to good use with new signings. as for turner i hope he gets all the luck in life he deserves. if thats the way he conducts himself all i can say is that i hope he shows more commitment and loyalty to his gf and child.......... they have a good future ahead of them !!!

also kevin l can anyone confirm he got a signing on fee and wages payed as the rumours suggest

[redbuli]

no reason for the club to be making statements before the matter is resolved.. would only further complicate things.. i presume the club wanted to keep Turner and a statement to the effect that he was talking to shams would of made that impossible.. glad its over, he'd lost the trust of fans before he even played a game

[akearins]

Club has been run professionally for past 2-3 years so hav econfidence we did everything correct and above board.Wat ****es me is that it seems its our own fans who are suggesting it must have been us who screwed up.
Totally disagree with fans wiching him the best, he ****s over our club and we want to wish him the best.Any one of this thought have a word with yerselves.

Call a spade a spade he was out of contract with Dundalk saw an opportunity to get a wage in the off season and played us for fools.

Its time the PFAI stood up to the plate.For far too long we have heard McGuinness harp about the way players have been treated so badly by the clubs, well what about PFAI members screwing and playing the clubs like Turer is.

Let it lie and see what comes

[Dixie Dean]

shame on shamrock rovers for trying to register a player when there is obvious question marks over his contract with us.

Shams can be tarred with the same brush here. Model club my arse.

[prodsc]

surely this free's up the budget for another quality player. i would take boco back on an improved offer if he is willing to return. losing morrison and boco will be huge as they were our most creative players and even the most critical fan of morrison must concede when boco and morrison were on form sligo rovers were on form !!!
we seriously need 2 central midfielders going on last years form. in the middle of the park last year we lacked bite and creativity and it cost us dearly. i hope turners and boco's wages are put to good use with new signings. as for turner i hope he gets all the luck in life he deserves. if thats the way he conducts himself all i can say is that i hope he shows more commitment and loyalty to his gf and child.......... they have a good future ahead of them !!!

also kevin l can anyone confirm he got a signing on fee and wages payed as the rumours suggest

Were we not using Boco's wages to pay Turner, ie. Boco was out of contract and gone?

Heard a story today that the compensation had been agreed between us and Shams, also heard that it may go to court! Glad to hear that the club still see him as a SLIGO Rovers player with a contract.

ps. F**k him, he was only milking us for the pre season money, but I hope he doesn't play at Showgrounds like he did last time out!!!

[foxfordred]

i know for a fact turner got 10 grand for signing for rovers

[rob mcdonald]

Have you inside info Foxford Red sounds like alot of money to sign on when funds are tight. Probably less i hope......

[rob mcdonald]

Will this be discussed tom or will it be left to the legal people.

[foxfordred]

i meant shamrock rovers and i have inside info

[red arrow]

it's important to clear up the matter of chris turner getting k10 from "rovers".
it certainly was'nt from sligo rovers he got it. my own opinion is that he has got himself into very big trouble from a legal point of view. we shall wait & see. what seems now a very dark cloud over hanging sligo rovers will be much darker when it blows the way of the "shams".

[rovers100%]

can sligo rovers clear up why they told us a player was signed on a 2 year contract and 3 months later joins another club. kevin l said we should n0t blame the club but if a legal contract was signed how can the player sign another one for shams ??? this is the answer i want.
was the contract not binding as shams supporters say or has chris turner illegally signed for another club while still signed with sligo rovers ??? can we please have some answers !!!

[avvenalaf]

i meant shamrock rovers and i have inside info

How very dare you refer to Shams as 'Rovers'. There's only one Rovers in this country (well, we'll allow you Three Rock Rovers, the hockey team).

[avvenalaf]

can sligo rovers clear up why they told us a player was signed on a 2 year contract and 3 months later joins another club. kevin l said we should n0t blame the club but if a legal contract was signed how can the player sign another one for shams ??? this is the answer i want.
was the contract not binding as shams supporters say or has chris turner illegally signed for another club while still signed with sligo rovers ??? can we please have some answers !!!

The contract wasn't binding until the player was registered and that could not be done until Jan 15th. It seems that, prior, the cailin kicked Chris out of the leaba, shouting things along the lines of 'they ate babies in Sligo and we're not going'. Now, the question is - do we want someone at the club who puts women and children before The Rovers?

[rovers100%]

so really and truely the contract was not worth the paper it was printed on !!! thats ridiculous the fai need to look into that and stop future clubs from been taking as mugs. shams are welcome to turner the dirty *******.shams can do what they like cos its suits the fai to have bohs challenged and glamourize the league and 6000 attendances. so again we see how this great country loves stepping on the little people and the rich become lawless......

[rovers100%]

would ya expect anything else........ shower of *****

[sligorover]

The contract wasn't binding until the player was registered and that could not be done until Jan 15th.
That is simply not legal. If Chris signed a two year contract with rovers it is binding for a period of two years. End of. If these are the FAI rules they are easily challenged in court, meaning the FAI would owe rovers compensation. If not then Turner and Shams are liable.

I have little doubt that we'll do well out of this yet.

[avvenalaf]

That is simply not legal. If Chris signed a two year contract with rovers it is binding for a period of two years. End of. If these are the FAI rules they are easily challenged in court, meaning the FAI would owe rovers compensation. If not then Turner and Shams are liable.

I have little doubt that we'll do well out of this yet.

Don't forget Brittany and the Belfry. And when did you ever see us do well out of anything?

[sligorover]

Don't forget Brittany and the Belfry. And when did you ever see us do well out of anything?
I still don't understand that analogy;)

This is different, the law is the law. There is no way a contract can simply be broken like that, the FAI is not at liberty to decide when contracts become valid.

[bingoballs]

[QUOTE=Rovers1;1314541]http://www.loi.ie/index.php/about/press-office/1388-fai-statement-regarding-chris-turner
in other words, the fai have rejected shams contract with turner as he is under contract with another club, us.

[rovers100%]

someone said today that first game of the season was us v shams in the showgrounds is this true ???

[hoops1]

[QUOTE=Rovers1;1314541]http://www.loi.ie/index.php/about/press-office/1388-fai-statement-regarding-chris-turner
in other words, the fai have rejected shams contract with turner as he is under contract with another club, us.

There will be mediation to sort it out. Sligo will get a few quid for him.

[Inside Man]

[QUOTE=bingoballs;1314561]

There will be mediation to sort it out. Sligo will get a few quid for him.

We will be in the red over the deal. All the wages we have dished over to him will not be recouped. - Thats the word I've heard from my workplace, and thats fairly reliable.

[rovers100%]

ever the optomist inside man !!!

[Ashbohs]

If there will be mediation and compensation payed that means that Turner was under contract.Does it not.No contract(as shams have repeatedly stated on here) no compo due.
The issues this throws up are that he will have signed For 3 clubs in the year and rovers will have illegally approached an under contract player(sanctions no?) .
I have no doubt the contract wasnt registered for this season as the FAI are not registering any contracts until budgets are approved.However i would be fully sure that turner has been paid on the back of and as per the contract he signed with sligo and im sure his payslips(licencing) will back this up.
I do expect Shams to get away with it on a technicality ie FAI rules prohibiting the registration but its very sneaky from the moral guardians of the league

[Dixie Dean]

If a club is sanctioned for giving 2 contracts to players then a player should be sanctioned for having 2 contracts with 2 different clubs.

I would like to see Turner given a 12 month ban. This sort of carry on cant be tolerated.

[Kevin L]

Hi Rovers100%,
I never said "Dont blame the Club"
I said this is going down a certain route and as soon as there is further developements, then the Club will make a statement.
At the end of the day, this is a message board and like life, everything will come out in the wash!