Munster Junior Cup 2009/10 [Archive] - Page 9

green&white

31/03/2010, 7:58 AM

Any one at the Carrick game in Kerry, the Tramore boys told me Carrick would win comfortably scoreline suggests they did.

Carrick Utd better team on the day I'm told, two big decisions went against them it sems . goal disallowed and Lisselton goal had " T. Henry "quotes all round. To recover and win
shows real character. pike in semi . Cant see CK being dissmissed too lightly , on or off the field..........

gaidin

31/03/2010, 8:04 AM

very good win for pike,of those four however maybe only one starting..moloney.interesting to see carroll not in the squad, injured?

Maybe couldnt risk him in case of another objection?

limfan

31/03/2010, 12:13 PM

Carrick Utd better team on the day I'm told, two big decisions went against them it sems . goal disallowed and Lisselton goal had " T. Henry "quotes all round. To recover and win
shows real character. pike in semi . Cant see CK being dissmissed too lightly , on or off the field..........

This game could of went a way differently, lisselton hit the post on the stokre of half time and the ball ran all the way across the goal and was cleared, i think if that had gone in 2-0 at hald time, it wouldnt have turned out so one sided in the end to Carrick.

Carrick were full value for thier win in the end and showed what a great team they have and their expeirience shone through. Lissellton may have to wait another year or two before they get to a big final but fai quarter finalist 09 mjc quater finalist this year i think they are a growing team and have big things ahead of them.

Best of luck to Carrick i hope they win it out now :)

blackjack

31/03/2010, 4:54 PM

great result against kilmallock,ye should have yer league games over by the time we play carrick cos yer out of everythingelse

you are on fire today kid

serpico

31/03/2010, 6:07 PM

you are on fire today kid
wiseman is not a boro man.he's on fire alright, he nearly fell into the fire in norbert's the other night singing.

blackjack

31/03/2010, 6:30 PM

wiseman is not a boro man.he's on fire alright, he nearly fell into the fire in norbert's the other night singing.
10/1 he sang mandy (he has a lot of loving in him on super mondays) :kissing:

abbeyvale

31/03/2010, 9:19 PM

thats slander

Ya it is, 10/1 is very poor odds....ha ha

serpico

01/04/2010, 9:54 AM

Ya it is, 10/1 is very poor odds....ha ha
hot off the press this morning.hoops12 is to replace niamh kavanagh in the eurovision.

green&white

04/04/2010, 5:48 PM

anyone know when the semi finals are on and where.

Pike v Carrick Utd 18th apr in Jackman park
Clonmel Town v Villa 18th in Cahir

inspiron

04/04/2010, 9:34 PM

Pike v Carrick Utd 18th apr in Jackman park
Clonmel Town v Villa 18th in Cahir

Handy one for Town ... will hammer this Villa outfit.
Pike should be to strong for Carrick.

abbeyvale

12/04/2010, 8:25 PM

Handy one for Town ... will hammer this Villa outfit.
Pike should be to strong for Carrick.

Sunday 18/04/10 @ 2.30pm
Semi Final.................Jackman Park
Pike v Carrick

connie

13/04/2010, 10:11 PM

Sunday 18/04/10 @ 2.30pm
Semi Final.................Jackman Park
Pike v Carrick
hope we can cause an upset.

carrick hoops

15/04/2010, 9:10 PM

pike v carrick is off , whats going on now ????

balls

15/04/2010, 9:21 PM

madness that this is off, surely not another objection

blackjack

15/04/2010, 10:00 PM

madness that this is off, surely not another objection
pike have no match this week death in the club

orchardfester

16/04/2010, 7:59 AM

pike v carrick is off , whats going on now ????

I've heard that the Munster council are looking at the Pike cards for the last rounds

Quietman

16/04/2010, 11:23 AM

madness that this is off, surely not another objection

Don't quote me people, but the rumour mill in Carrick is that the MFA are now investigating Pike......Lets hope not but if so, What a bloody mess this has become. As a neutral but general football fan................Football is suffering!!

Lets just hope that this thread is not now destroyed like the Fai Junior Cup thread.:(

the 12 th man

16/04/2010, 11:32 AM

If anybody tries to ruin this thread with Junior Cup crap they'll get a one MONTH ban.

thomas72

16/04/2010, 12:32 PM

If anybody tries to ruin this thread with Junior Cup crap they'll get a one MONTH ban.

haha legend thats telling them

complexman

16/04/2010, 12:33 PM

Don't quote me people, but the rumour mill in Carrick is that the MFA are now investigating Pike......Lets hope not but if so, What a bloody mess this has become. As a neutral but general football fan................Football is suffering!!

Lets just hope that this thread is not now destroyed like the Fai Junior Cup thread.:(

Not often I agree with you but I have to here. All of this is very very sad for soccer

twohalves

16/04/2010, 2:37 PM

What a horrible,horrible season for football. I hope the FAI,MJC,LDMC and some clubs learn from this series of debacles which have really screwed up what we are all in the game for,simply a game of Sunday league ball whether we play or support... it's sad!!

Galla

16/04/2010, 2:57 PM

Sorry for interrupting all the doom and gloom but would it be ok to mention the game that is going ahead on Sunday! 'Town will probably be favourites but Villa have a few handy players who if not 'gotten into' could cause some problems. Villa are without their centre half having been sent off in previous round - a big loss. I think 'Town will have too much for them but should be a good game. Great venue and looks like should be a good day (as long as there's no ash showers!). Is it true that Robbie Costigan has re-signed for 'Town - timely and excellent news if true - especially as Raymie's 'nose job' could keep him out for a while.

balls

16/04/2010, 3:25 PM

not sure if robbie signed heard nothing, raymie be massive loss though he was having a great season. robbie is center back for tipp senior footballers so cant see him being 100% committed to soccer but if town have him just for mjc and fai im sure they wont complain. i fancy town sunday cause its on in cahir they have slight advantage ill go 2-1 with goals from scully and moroney

twohalves

17/04/2010, 8:22 AM

Great news. Thanks Galla!

tipp man

17/04/2010, 8:42 AM

serpico

18/04/2010, 1:52 PM

You are quite correct, the MFA did call this game off

The match would have been off anyway due to a death in club.!!!

tipp man

18/04/2010, 4:57 PM

Clonmel Town 1-0 Villa AFC aet

Tony Scully with the goal in second period of extra time.

inspiron

18/04/2010, 9:36 PM

Clonmel Town 1-0 Villa AFC aet

Tony Scully with the goal in second period of extra time.

Was not at game but would have expected Town to win that easy. Have seen Villa a few times this season and they are far from a good side. Are town slipping a bit.

tipp man

19/04/2010, 7:19 AM

Was not at game but would have expected Town to win that easy. Have seen Villa a few times this season and they are far from a good side. Are town slipping a bit.

Not slipping, just had a bad bad day in front of goal. Could have been 3-0 at half time and 7-0 at full time. Ritchie Ryan was a spectator. I don't think he made a single save. CTFC back 4 were excellent, as in fairness were Villa's defence.

The goal, when it came, was inevitable. Villa fought well and will be dissapointed not to take Clonmel back to Ozier Park. They offered very little up front and couldn't get around Man of the match Stephen Ryan.

complexman

19/04/2010, 8:10 AM

Not slipping, just had a bad bad day in front of goal. Could have been 3-0 at half time and 7-0 at full time. Ritchie Ryan was a spectator. I don't think he made a single save. CTFC back 4 were excellent, as in fairness were Villa's defence.

The goal, when it came, was inevitable. Villa fought well and will be dissapointed not to take Clonmel back to Ozier Park. They offered very little up front and couldn't get around Man of the match Stephen Ryan.

I couldn't make the match but fair play to Town, great to have one final to look forward to ( whenever it will be played). Congrats- I am told by anyone who was it that we were the better side

abbeyvale

19/04/2010, 9:22 AM

Not slipping, just had a bad bad day in front of goal. Could have been 3-0 at half time and 7-0 at full time. Ritchie Ryan was a spectator. I don't think he made a single save. CTFC back 4 were excellent, as in fairness were Villa's defence.

The goal, when it came, was inevitable. Villa fought well and will be dissapointed not to take Clonmel back to Ozier Park. They offered very little up front and couldn't get around Man of the match Stephen Ryan.

You say that Villa's defence was excellent but yet you also say that Town could have won by 7 goals..........?????

nononsense

19/04/2010, 10:28 AM

Not slipping, just had a bad bad day in front of goal. Could have been 3-0 at half time and 7-0 at full time. Ritchie Ryan was a spectator. I don't think he made a single save. CTFC back 4 were excellent, as in fairness were Villa's defence.

The goal, when it came, was inevitable. Villa fought well and will be dissapointed not to take Clonmel back to Ozier Park. They offered very little up front and couldn't get around Man of the match Stephen Ryan.
The game would not have gone back to Ozier Park. It had to finish yesterday - penalties if they had been necessary.

hooper74

19/04/2010, 10:42 AM

The game would not have gone back to Ozier Park. It had to finish yesterday - penalties if they had been necessary.

thats incorrect,it would have been replayed in ozier sunday week,no penalties

Galla

19/04/2010, 11:16 AM

I thought 'Town were only ok yesterday - they again lacked the urgency and concentration that they seem to reserve for more 'illustrious' opponents. While they never looked like conceding they were only a few minutes away from the 50 / 50 chance of penaltys (granted I would reckon they'd have the advantage in a penalty shootout)**Hooper74 post changes this scenario - same sentiment though**. Evan Maguire and to a lesser extent Rory Kiely improved things greatly on their introduction. Ian Barnes wasn't on his game while Barry Murphy isn't good enough to be in the starting line-up - as a sub he's ok to bring on (that said if it does end up a 'Town - Carrick final, some role reversal for him having scored the winner for Carrick in the final in 2004(?)). First time out in Cahir for a couple of years - some set-up. Be great to see a regional or national final there this year.

ronburgundy

19/04/2010, 5:40 PM

was at the game yesterday and was blown away by the new facilities in cahir, fair play to them. as for the game, villa were truly terrible going forward. how they got this far is puzzling but you have to admire them for it. town are far from the finished article and certainly not as strong as previous years, that said i would think if you had told town they would be in this position in october they would have grabbed the hand off you. i expect them to win one of the big 2 competitions now

nononsense

19/04/2010, 7:24 PM

thats incorrect,it would have been replayed in ozier sunday week,no penalties
Let me say it again, the game would have gone to penalties - no replay. I have just heard the Clonmel Town manager say on Tipp FM about how close it came to a replay at Ozier Park and Hooper74 stated the same. Not true. Would someone tell them there are no replays in this competition. The final will also finish on the day - extra time and penalties.

hooper74

19/04/2010, 8:41 PM

Let me say it again, the game would have gone to penalties - no replay. I have just heard the Clonmel Town manager say on Tipp FM about how close it came to a replay at Ozier Park and Hooper74 stated the same. Not true. Would someone tell them there are no replays in this competition. The final will also finish on the day - extra time and penalties.

the referee informed both sets of players before the game there would be extra time and then a replay,NO PENALTIES

nononsense

19/04/2010, 9:24 PM

the referee informed both sets of players before the game there would be extra time and then a replay,NO PENALTIES

I cannot comment on what the referee informed both sets of players. I am stating the rules of the Munster Junior Cup Competition - all games are to be decided on the day, no replays.

Innishvilla

20/04/2010, 7:56 AM

Just looked up the cup rules on Mun FA website:
In Munster Junior Cup rules (http://homepage.eircom.net/~munfa/docs/CUP-rules.pdf)

5. In the semi-final ties the net gate receipts, after payment of all expenses shall be divided in the proportion of one-third to the association and the remaining between the two competing teams. In the event of a replayed semi-final the receipts after the payment of expenses shall be divided in proportion of one-third to the association and one-third to each of the competing teams.

So I guess this means the semi's will go to replays - but it doesn't state it very clearly, as item 4 on list says 90 minutes + 10 minutes each way (if needed) + penalties (if needed). It seems to suggest that the semi finals can go to replay but no other round???

hooper74

20/04/2010, 11:21 AM

Just looked up the cup rules on Mun FA website:
In Munster Junior Cup rules (http://homepage.eircom.net/~munfa/docs/CUP-rules.pdf (http://homepage.eircom.net/%7Emunfa/docs/CUP-rules.pdf))

5. In the semi-final ties the net gate receipts, after payment of all expenses shall be divided in the proportion of one-third to the association and the remaining between the two competing teams. In the event of a replayed semi-final the receipts after the payment of expenses shall be divided in proportion of one-third to the association and one-third to each of the competing teams.

So I guess this means the semi's will go to replays - but it doesn't state it very clearly, as item 4 on list says 90 minutes + 10 minutes each way (if needed) + penalties (if needed). It seems to suggest that the semi finals can go to replay but no other round???

exactly....sundays game would have been replayed in ozier park sunday week

nononsense

20/04/2010, 1:01 PM

exactly....sundays game would have been replayed in ozier park sunday week

I appreciate what Innishvilla and Hooper are saying and do not wish to argue. I still say all games in the Munster Junior Cup go to penalties up to and including the final. Could I suggest one of you contact the Secretary of the Munster Football Association.

tipp man

20/04/2010, 6:14 PM

I appreciate what Innishvilla and Hooper are saying and do not wish to argue. I still say all games in the Munster Junior Cup go to penalties up to and including the final. Could I suggest one of you contact the Secretary of the Munster Football Association.

As if that would bring clarity. Can we leave this redundant argument as Town won the game in the second period of extra time. In the unlikely event that the second semi is played, I'm sure this argument could be ressurected then.

nononsense

20/04/2010, 9:51 PM

As if that would bring clarity. Can we leave this redundant argument as Town won the game in the second period of extra time. In the unlikely event that the second semi is played, I'm sure this argument could be ressurected then.

Sorry - just trying to be helpful. Let me have the final word - I am 100% correct when I say there are no replays in the Munster Junior Cup. There are no replays in the Munster Youths Cup including the final on Saturday night. There are no replays in the F.A.I. Junior Cup including semi-finals and finals.

hooper74

20/04/2010, 10:43 PM

Sorry - just trying to be helpful. Let me have the final word - I am 100% correct when I say there are no replays in the Munster Junior Cup. There are no replays in the Munster Youths Cup including the final on Saturday night. There are no replays in the F.A.I. Junior Cup including semi-finals and finals.

incorrect again,fairview beat st michaels in a replayed fai final in 2002, anyway its a pointless argument the Clonmel and Villa players would not have been taking penalties,maybe the referee was wrong and it would have caused more appeals, anyway lets all move on

nononsense

20/04/2010, 10:54 PM

incorrect again,fairview beat st michaels in a replayed fai final in 2002, anyway its a pointless argument the Clonmel and Villa players would not have been taking penalties,maybe the referee was wrong and it would have caused more appeals, anyway lets all move on

True, but an awful lot of rules regarding the F.A.I. Junior Cup have changed in eight years, wouldn't you agree? No replays is one of them.

hooper74

20/04/2010, 11:01 PM

True, but an awful lot of rules regarding the F.A.I. Junior Cup have changed in eight years, wouldn't you agree? No replays is one of them.

Fair point,i think the problem is nobody seems to know the rules and thats why we find ourselves in the mess that we are in now

Damo

21/04/2010, 10:05 AM

Sorry - just trying to be helpful. Let me have the final word - I am 100% correct when I say there are no replays in the Munster Junior Cup. There are no replays in the Munster Youths Cup including the final on Saturday night. There are no replays in the F.A.I. Junior Cup including semi-finals and finals.

Typical FAI re inconsistency between rules and competitions. Leinster Senior Cup final, for example, goes to extra time and then replay. No pens in first game. Always has been that way.

Innishvilla

21/04/2010, 11:12 AM

Sorry - just trying to be helpful. Let me have the final word - I am 100% correct when I say there are no replays in the Munster Junior Cup. There are no replays in the Munster Youths Cup including the final on Saturday night. There are no replays in the F.A.I. Junior Cup including semi-finals and finals.

I have followed up and yes it is as was thought no replays - it seems they forgot to delete the clause about replays in rule 5 of the Munster Junior cup rules when the no replay rule was implemented a few years ago...

nononsense

21/04/2010, 5:31 PM

Fairview won 2 FAI finals after replays and won at least 1 semi after a replay

Well, they will have to do it at first time of asking this year.

ponyobrien

21/04/2010, 8:30 PM