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hoop4life
15/03/2009, 7:26 PM
castlerea celtic made it into the semi's after a win against manulla today, could they be the surprise package??
no because celtic will beat them in the semi!!! ;)
good win for them today against manulla though
as for westport, not really susprised by that. they are never really gracious in defeat. always are and always were a bit ratty. i'm happy to say that my prediction was right though. i knew that it would be a tight game. was hoping for an all mayo final and us beating westport but thats obviously not going to happen now.
celtic v west final imo going to penalties again with us just pipping them hopefully!!!!
Thunderblaster
15/03/2009, 8:50 PM
West Utd are through to the semi final after beating Westport 4-2 on pens after the game finished 2-2 aet.
Contoversial game with the home team getting 2 pens. scored 1 missed 1. Also Westport looked like scoring a winner in normal time when the game was stopped as the linesman wanted to bring something to the refs attention. Westport officals not to happy after the game
I was at the game and it was a sad day for Irish Junior football to witness what I saw.
Leveller
15/03/2009, 9:05 PM
west were poor today and i think westport deserved to win it to be honest but i think there gripe with the ref was well off,west got 2 penalties,but both of them were certain penalties,they should of had another blatant penalty before they got there first penalty,the westport no.2 kicked a west player from behind off the ball,the linesman flagged it,he called the ref over and said his recommendation was a straight red,ref bottled and gave a yellow,i must say westport weren't very gracious in defeat,they were invited by west back to the local pub for a meal,which west do for every home game against teams that travel,they informed west before the game that they would be coming back afterwards,they never showed up,despite saying they would and about 20 meals went to waste,bad sportsmanship if you ask me,we lost on penalties up in dublin in the irish cup,we were sick as parrots,we still turned up for a drink with the sheriff lads afterwards,common courtesy,also when we beat westport last year down there,none of them turned up again at the pub they arranged to meet us in.
Come on. The officials were terrible. The first penalty was not one the goalie punched it. We dont mind losing fair and square, but what went on today was a disgrace to junior football.
Your own supporters were embarrassed and made it known to many of us.
We are not sore losers, ask the good people of Dungarvan and Killester when we went out of the junior cup. I understand that as a supporter you will have this view and are entitled to it but how the game was refereed today was a shambles.
If we had got common courtesy on the pitch by the officials, we would have went back to the pub. One of the officials is involved with West and should not have officiated at a match of that importance, they were totally biased, give us a bit of credit.
east utd
15/03/2009, 11:42 PM
east v west in connaught cup semi,thought westport unlucky,refs report will be interesting.
west awake
16/03/2009, 1:01 PM
Come on. The officials were terrible. The first penalty was not one the goalie punched it. We dont mind losing fair and square, but what went on today was a disgrace to junior football.
Your own supporters were embarrassed and made it known to many of us.
We are not sore losers, ask the good people of Dungarvan and Killester when we went out of the junior cup. I understand that as a supporter you will have this view and are entitled to it but how the game was refereed today was a shambles.
If we had got common courtesy on the pitch by the officials, we would have went back to the pub. One of the officials is involved with West and should not have officiated at a match of that importance, they were totally biased, give us a bit of credit.leveller get your facts right,none of the officials are involved with west or were ever involved in west,anyone in junior soccer in galway will tell you west always get the wrong end of the stick when it comes to officials,if westport feel aggrieved by the officials thats nothing to do with west,it was poor form on there behalf not coming back for a drink,i'm an honest person and i stand by what i say,i think the officials were fair and i also think westport were the better team on the day,i mean if your no 2 got correctly punished with a red card after 5 minutes,west could of beat ye out the gate,your picking decisions that went against ye yesterday,there was an awful lot of dubious decisions that went with ye.
TheRealMuller
16/03/2009, 4:14 PM
did u see wests game??? heard it was very bad.????
castlebar celtic to win it after westport are gone out
Westside142
18/03/2009, 12:17 PM
leveller get your facts right,none of the officials are involved with west or were ever involved in west,anyone in junior soccer in galway will tell you west always get the wrong end of the stick when it comes to officials,if westport feel aggrieved by the officials thats nothing to do with west,it was poor form on there behalf not coming back for a drink,i'm an honest person and i stand by what i say,i think the officials were fair and i also think westport were the better team on the day,i mean if your no 2 got correctly punished with a red card after 5 minutes,west could of beat ye out the gate,your picking decisions that went against ye yesterday,there was an awful lot of dubious decisions that went with ye.
Leveller is spot on with everything he said about that match.
The linesmen were stuck in every decision that the ref should have seen himself as he was the closest to all the incidents.
Those 3 cheats should have a look in the mirror and question their integrity this week after the riding they gave westport.
This sums them up: westport on the attack 4 v 3 with striker in possession on edge of box with one man to beat,the linesman is flagging furiously,ref spots this and calls time out,ref goes over to the l/man who
asks for the supporters to go behind rope but only the two managers were inside the rope as entitled to be, the ref makes a scene and gives a hop ball on the sideline.This is what your up against and i`ve seen it before in galway.
At the end the 3 amigos were going back to the dressing room and thought it was very amusing what they had just presided over.All you want is fairplay nothing extra, but sadly teams have no say who wins matches its in the officials hands now which is wrong.
FahyForever
18/03/2009, 1:00 PM
Leveller is spot on with everything he said about that match.
The linesmen were stuck in every decision that the ref should have seen himself as he was the closest to all the incidents.
Those 3 cheats should have a look in the mirror and question their integrity this week after the riding they gave westport.
This sums them up: westport on the attack 4 v 3 with striker in possession on edge of box with one man to beat,the linesman is flagging furiously,ref spots this and calls time out,ref goes over to the l/man who
asks for the supporters to go behind rope but only the two managers were inside the rope as entitled to be, the ref makes a scene and gives a hop ball on the sideline.This is what your up against and i`ve seen it before in galway.
At the end the 3 amigos were going back to the dressing room and thought it was very amusing what they had just presided over.All you want is fairplay nothing extra, but sadly teams have no say who wins matches its in the officials hands now which is wrong.
I wasnīt at the game and Iīm not trying to stir things up but even if what ye say is totally accurate and the referee and linesman were shocking, surely itīs not the other teamīs fault and ye should have gone for a drink with them and a bit to eat? Was it a spur of the moment decision due to the frustration and anger ye felt or do you stand by it even now?
west awake
18/03/2009, 1:49 PM
Leveller is spot on with everything he said about that match.
The linesmen were stuck in every decision that the ref should have seen himself as he was the closest to all the incidents.
Those 3 cheats should have a look in the mirror and question their integrity this week after the riding they gave westport.
This sums them up: westport on the attack 4 v 3 with striker in possession on edge of box with one man to beat,the linesman is flagging furiously,ref spots this and calls time out,ref goes over to the l/man who
asks for the supporters to go behind rope but only the two managers were inside the rope as entitled to be, the ref makes a scene and gives a hop ball on the sideline.This is what your up against and i`ve seen it before in galway.
At the end the 3 amigos were going back to the dressing room and thought it was very amusing what they had just presided over.All you want is fairplay nothing extra, but sadly teams have no say who wins matches its in the officials hands now which is wrong.if he was spot on about everything,which official had something to do with our club?why did none of ye complain about the officials when the westport no 2 kicked the west no 11 off the ball and was spotted by the linesman and wasn't sent off,the westport support abused the officials and the west players from start to finish,the west players lost count the amount of time they were called thinkers and knackers by gthe westport sideline,it's the same as last year down there when we beat westport,sour grapes no one turned up again after the game in the pub,was talking to dave horkan after the game and he said he had no major problem with the ref as he felt he could of got sent on a few occasions for persistent fouling.
paul_oshea
18/03/2009, 3:10 PM
seems like west have a habit of getting some dodgy decisions go their way....
Thunderblaster
18/03/2009, 8:30 PM
Match officials performance was reported on the Mayo newspapers and there were critical reports on their handling of the game. The two penalties never looked like penalties, the disallowed goal, well, I was up the other end of the pitch for that one. I'm only aware of the throw in incident after reading the newspapers, RE: West United's second goal. The incident in extra time for the drop ball was a total embarrassment to football. Why did the drop ball take place in the other half of the pitch? Why deny Westport United a legitimate goalscoring opportunity in such despicable fashion? Whether the match officials were poor, biased or played to the occasion, they and only they can answer that. What happend on Sunday was that a team that prepared so hard to win a Connacht Cup were ripped off. The expenditure the club put in to achieving that aim counting for nought but the supporters were cheated. People got out of bed early on Sunday morning, hired buses, drove cars and hitched lifts. They also had to buy food and basically give up their day to get behind the team. These people deserved better for their unswerving loyalty and yet, they got a kick in the teeth. Apparently, a supporter was so traumatised by what happened on Sunday that he could not sleep that night. Is that morally right? Folks, there is a difference between losing a game and being cheated out of a game, and I felt what happened on Sunday was the latter. After the trauma the club has suffered from it (seen as embarrassing by other clubs that were in attendance at the game), I think that the least West United could do, as a gesture of goodwill to all those who felt cheated and ripped off, is to offer a rematch of the Connacht Cup quarter final with neutral referees (Not Mayo or Galway referees). One of the FIFA mottos is one of Fair Play, and such a gesture would be applauded by all right thinking people within the game of football.
hoop4life
18/03/2009, 8:47 PM
i see where you are coming from tb. we got the same treatment in limerick and on reading the local papers it sounds like ye were cheated out of it and its not the first time that galway refs have won the game for galway teams. i can name two other occasions but thats for another day.
but, do you honestly think that west would consider giving you a replay?? it was not their fault that the refs were terrible and if the shoe was on the other foot, i don't think that westport would be offering west a replay.
but don't worry tb, west won't go on to win it and your dear friends from over the road will do ye a favour and beat them in the final!!!! ;)
east utd
19/03/2009, 9:03 AM
lads ,what worries me over the fallout from this match,when galway teams visit mayo can they still get a fair game,referees will be under fierce pressure especially say drawn away to westport.i would like to think so.also with the final to be played in galway which officials will be given the job,will say castlebar ask for roscommon refs?
Westside142
19/03/2009, 12:08 PM
if he was spot on about everything,which official had something to do with our club?why did none of ye complain about the officials when the westport no 2 kicked the west no 11 off the ball and was spotted by the linesman and wasn't sent off,the westport support abused the officials and the west players from start to finish,the west players lost count the amount of time they were called thinkers and knackers by gthe westport sideline,it's the same as last year down there when we beat westport,sour grapes no one turned up again after the game in the pub,was talking to dave horkan after the game and he said he had no major problem with the ref as he felt he could of got sent on a few occasions for persistent fouling.
I have to add also that other galway teams were watching what was going on and they couldn`t believe what they were witnessing and took off in embarrassment.I was on the sideline and don`t tarnish westports name with that rubbish about abusing west`s players your getting desperate when your down that road looking for a reaction.
Hardly the first time westport supporters have been accused of a bit of verbals.:D
west awake
19/03/2009, 2:20 PM
I have to add also that other galway teams were watching what was going on and they couldn`t believe what they were witnessing and took off in embarrassment.I was on the sideline and don`t tarnish westports name with that rubbish about abusing west`s players your getting desperate when your down that road looking for a reaction.other galway teams?you mean galway hibs and the likes who all want to see west beaten,west have come from the bottom of the 1st division to the top of the premier in 4yrs,there is alot of jealousy amongst alot of the galway clubs towards west especially hibs.it's like westport and castlebar the rivalry.sure ye could always go to the high court to get a replay,thunderblaster can tell them about that poor man who couldn't sleep on sunday night.
hoop4life
19/03/2009, 2:20 PM
Hardly the first time westport supporters have been accused of a bit of verbals.:D
agreed!!!!
threefivetwo
19/03/2009, 3:51 PM
look lads i realise that ye feel ye were hard done by but them things happen in football, it's not west's fault if the refs and linesmen were in the wrong, after celtic being treated so bad down in limerick we didn't go on about wanting them to offer a replay, we took it on the chin even though obviously we were very annoyed, it's all part of the game...
tb i hope that fella got sleep the night after, i'm sure the fai or connaught fa would feel awful bad about that if ye were to go to court again!:D
threefivetwo
19/03/2009, 3:52 PM
agreed!!!!
definitely agreed!!
threefivetwo
19/03/2009, 3:55 PM
lads ,what worries me over the fallout from this match,when galway teams visit mayo can they still get a fair game,referees will be under fierce pressure especially say drawn away to westport.i would like to think so.also with the final to be played in galway which officials will be given the job,will say castlebar ask for roscommon refs?
the connaught final is always played with neutral refs as far as i know, i know in the 2 that we played in they were neutral anyway! mayo refs wouldn't be on a mayo teams side anyway, they always seem to be the same to both teams no matter what county the other team is from, FAIR PLAY its called!!:ball:
Thunderblaster
19/03/2009, 6:36 PM
the west players lost count the amount of time they were called thinkers
Have to say that I would take that as a compliment, as I would then be seen as having a philosphical outlook on the game!!;):D
Thunderblaster
19/03/2009, 6:56 PM
i must say westport weren't very gracious in defeat,they were invited by west back to the local pub for a meal,which west do for every home game against teams that travel,they informed west before the game that they would be coming back afterwards,they never showed up,despite saying they would and about 20 meals went to waste
Westport would be usually gracious in defeat, but it is hard to be gracious in defeat in the circumstances of Sunday. I really cannot comment on the meals bit.
west awake
19/03/2009, 7:30 PM
west united were officially informed today that indeed westport have an objection in protesting about the officials and the state of the pitch.why didn't they protest about the pitch before the game?sour sour grapes,they have requested a replay at a neutral venue!
west awake
19/03/2009, 7:39 PM
Was at the match , Tony G was the ref with Paul Mc G one of the linesmen , didnt know the other. In the first half one of the Westport lads No 2 followed through with a kick on West defender which Paul brought to attention of ref . Got yellow but going on rules should have walked ...Red!!! Saw it myself !!! Ref did well in a tough job with probably more Westport support than home side , who were very vocal towards him. Their No 7 Horkan was also booked , bit of niggle there .....
Didnt envy his job stuck in the middle between two sets of very vocal supporters , but did well i thought. Not an easy job by any means . West won fair and square without playing to their full potential.
this was a neutrals point of view on the galwaysoccer.editboard.net
hoop4life
19/03/2009, 7:50 PM
tb i hope that fella got sleep the night after, i'm sure the fai or connaught fa would feel awful bad about that if ye were to go to court again!:D
ha ha ha!! love it!!! :D
FahyForever
19/03/2009, 9:30 PM
Seen as how Fahy Rovers wonīt be winning the Connaught Cup anytime soon, I can honestly say I would be happy to see Westport win it any amount of times. However, this objection seems to smack of sour grapes to me. Westport have possibly the most loyal and dedicated fans in Connaught football, but their passion does not override the rules of the game. Should Ireland get in touch with Georgia and say īWe had a look at the penalty decision lads and would ye fancy a replay?ī
Itīs not Wests fault if the officials messed up. Lodge a complaint about them (the referee and linesmen) as is your right, but requesting a replay on a neutral ground seems a bridge too far. And thats from someone with a bias towards Westport.
the 12 th man
20/03/2009, 12:46 PM
Leveller,take a chill pill,your last couple of posts are borderline trolling,make your point without insults next time or your post will be deleted.
12 th man.
the 12 th man
20/03/2009, 3:01 PM
On second thoughts Leveller's post(s) and its quoted ones deserve to be binned and that's where they're going.
FahyForever
20/03/2009, 4:28 PM
Does that mean that the reason you have deleted my posts is because they quoted Levellers and you donīt want his to be viewed? Because I had written nothing offensive in mine and donīt see why they should be deleted otherwise. Is there not a better system? Why should I be censored despite not doing anything wrong?
the 12 th man
20/03/2009, 6:22 PM
Does that mean that the reason you have deleted my posts is because they quoted Levellers and you donīt want his to be viewed? Because I had written nothing offensive in mine and donīt see why they should be deleted otherwise. Is there not a better system? Why should I be censored despite not doing anything wrong?
The posts relating to Levellers are in the rubbish forum,some don't deserve to be there but are because they quote or relate directly to them.
At the moment there is no other way of doing it.
FahyForever
20/03/2009, 6:56 PM
Understood. Thanks for the reply anyway.
Was at the match , Tony G was the ref with Paul Mc G one of the linesmen , didnt know the other. In the first half one of the Westport lads No 2 followed through with a kick on West defender which Paul brought to attention of ref . Got yellow but going on rules should have walked ...Red!!! Saw it myself !!! Ref did well in a tough job with probably more Westport support than home side , who were very vocal towards him. Their No 7 Horkan was also booked , bit of niggle there .....
Didnt envy his job stuck in the middle between two sets of very vocal supporters , but did well i thought. Not an easy job by any means . West won fair and square without playing to their full potential.
this was a neutrals point of view on the galwaysoccer.editboard.net
Lads,Im not having a go at either,what I want to say is that Referees do not have to answer to any authority....well none that I know of anyway.They have a tough job to do and like players or managers do get it wrong sometimes...Thing is that when they do,they are never disciplined by anyone and do not have to answer to anyone.Some of them love the power trip and will act on it in any way they seem fit.I know a guy that was sent off in the wrong from the line a few months ago,he actually never even said boo even when he was sent off.Afterwards he asked the ref why and the ref could not give him an answer of any description.What galls me is that if someone had been abusive or used foul language,they deserve to go,but when asked what he had done wrong,there was a blank responce.The guy in question had never been sent to the line in his life.
"Even when they are wrong they are right"
FahyForever
21/03/2009, 1:30 PM
I agree totally, itīs absolutely soul-destroying to train hard and put in an honest effort only to see your chances squandered by incompetence, despotism or bias. And I agree that officials who appear to show signs of some or all of these qualities should be reported and dealt with. The problem, of course, is the lack of people willing to do so difficult a job. The Mayo referees committee chairman spoke at the AGM of refs being abused by players when out socially with their wives and families, which is horrible behaviour, so itīs not hard to see why they have problems finding genuine candidates and have to fast-track semi-qualified officials into league matches.
There is also definitely a minority of officials who do it for the īpowerī as 1924 mentioned. These guys remind me of kids who were picked on at school and resolved to become Guards so they could seek retribution on all the boys who ever called them names. Itīs the same with some refs. As the last boy picked for the five-a-sides every lunch break, they vow to ruin the lives of players forever by bullying them from behind the comfort of their whistles.
I genuinely feel sorry for Westport if they were the victims of bad officiating, but just to reiterate my point for the man who canīt understand it: itīs not the opposing teamīs fault. And they have no obligation whatsoever to offer a replay to Westport.
I agree totally, itīs absolutely soul-destroying to train hard and put in an honest effort only to see your chances squandered by incompetence, despotism or bias. And I agree that officials who appear to show signs of some or all of these qualities should be reported and dealt with. The problem, of course, is the lack of people willing to do so difficult a job. The Mayo referees committee chairman spoke at the AGM of refs being abused by players when out socially with their wives and families, which is horrible behaviour, so itīs not hard to see why they have problems finding genuine candidates and have to fast-track semi-qualified officials into league matches.
There is also definitely a minority of officials who do it for the īpowerī as 1924 mentioned. These guys remind me of kids who were picked on at school and resolved to become Guards so they could seek retribution on all the boys who ever called them names. Itīs the same with some refs. As the last boy picked for the five-a-sides every lunch break, they vow to ruin the lives of players forever by bullying them from behind the comfort of their whistles.
I genuinely feel sorry for Westport if they were the victims of bad officiating, but just to reiterate my point for the man who canīt understand it: itīs not the opposing teamīs fault. And they have no obligation whatsoever to offer a replay to Westport.
I have to say one thing.....The mayo referees by and large are very good and in no way was I ever referring to them.What I do find is that the quality of referees once you go outside the county is not of the same standard as that of the mayo league refs.
Its like the standards the Mayo league have set.....what with nearly every team/club having fantastic facilities in mayo.If every County could take a leaf out of The Mayo league and the standards they have set
Leveller
23/03/2009, 8:28 AM
I have to say one thing.....The mayo referees by and large are very good and in no way was I ever referring to them.What I do find is that the quality of referees once you go outside the county is not of the same standard as that of the mayo league refs.
Its like the standards the Mayo league have set.....what with nearly every team/club having fantastic facilities in mayo.If every County could take a leaf out of The Mayo league and the standards they have set
Very true.
threefivetwo
23/03/2009, 9:31 AM
not saying it in a bad way but i think it's awful bad that westport are putting in an appeal about the game and looking for a replay, when will ye ever just take a beatin??? they bet ye last year as well and even though it might have been under bad circumstances this year a beatin is a beatin so please dry your tears, i don't know any other team that would actually cry so much and try to get a game replayed after they lost, brings back memories of the junior cup when ye lostand couldn't take it, we didn't do it when it happened us in limerick!!! i'm obviously a mayo man and i get on with most of the westport team but i just think it's childish the way ye are going on!!
couchpotato
23/03/2009, 5:43 PM
not saying it in a bad way but i think it's awful bad that westport are putting in an appeal about the game and looking for a replay, when will ye ever just take a beatin??? they bet ye last year as well and even though it might have been under bad circumstances this year a beatin is a beatin so please dry your tears, i don't know any other team that would actually cry so much and try to get a game replayed after they lost, brings back memories of the junior cup when ye lostand couldn't take it, we didn't do it when it happened us in limerick!!! i'm obviously a mayo man and i get on with most of the westport team but i just think it's childish the way ye are going on!!
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Are westport putting in an appeal??????
west awake
23/03/2009, 6:42 PM
westport have appealed thats for certain,west utd fc have recieved a copy of the appeal,they have appealed against the standard of officials,the state of the pitch,what they see as inadequate roping off of the pitch,they have appealed to why there was linesmen present,when originally there wasn't supposed to be 2 linesmen,they have appealed to why west didn't play in there original home pitch,which west moved from because it has been deemed unsafe by the top groundsman in the country,they also said they were only informed of the change of venue sunday morning which is lies as our secretary contacted the westport secretary on the friday to tell westport the change in venue,phone records will confirm this,they also appealed about having to tog out in the mervue clubhouse which they had to pay 30euro for the use of,the west complex was opened for them but they declined this invitation,said they were running late,i have one question,WHY WERE THEY RUNNING LATE,WHEN IT WAS WESTPORT WHO GOT THE GAME CHANGED TO 12 O CLOCK FROM 2 AND WEST ONLY FOUND OUT ABOUT THE CHANGE OF TIME BY ONE OF ITS MEMBERS READING IT IN A MAYO NEWSPAPER?surely west should of been informed,we were the home team and should of had choice of time,never mind not 2 be even consulted about the change,it really seems that westport really are bad loser's.
How late were they ? I seen the westport bus in mervue at 10.50am sunday morning, and was wondering why they were there ?
GoodFootball
23/03/2009, 8:06 PM
westport have appealed thats for certain,west utd fc have recieved a copy of the appeal,they have appealed against the standard of officials,the state of the pitch,what they see as inadequate roping off of the pitch,they have appealed to why there was linesmen present,when originally there wasn't supposed to be 2 linesmen,they have appealed to why west didn't play in there original home pitch,which west moved from because it has been deemed unsafe by the top groundsman in the country,they also said they were only informed of the change of venue sunday morning which is lies as our secretary contacted the westport secretary on the friday to tell westport the change in venue,phone records will confirm this,they also appealed about having to tog out in the mervue clubhouse which they had to pay 30euro for the use of,the west complex was opened for them but they declined this invitation,said they were running late,i have one question,WHY WERE THEY RUNNING LATE,WHEN IT WAS WESTPORT WHO GOT THE GAME CHANGED TO 12 O CLOCK FROM 2 AND WEST ONLY FOUND OUT ABOUT THE CHANGE OF TIME BY ONE OF ITS MEMBERS READING IT IN A MAYO NEWSPAPER?surely west should of been informed,we were the home team and should of had choice of time,never mind not 2 be even consulted about the change,it really seems that westport really are bad loser's.
Your post backs up Westports right to appeal! There's no rule that says you cant appeal if you feel wrongly done by. Apparantly alot of neutrals from galway thought they were wrongly done by too.
Leave it to the officials to decide :ball:
west awake
24/03/2009, 1:32 AM
Your post backs up Westports right to appeal! There's no rule that says you cant appeal if you feel wrongly done by. Apparantly alot of neutrals from galway thought they were wrongly done by too.
Leave it to the officials to decide :ball:how do i back them up?i told you what grounds they were appealing on,the linemen were appointed by the referee's inspector,which he has the authority to do,west changed venue which they were entitled to do as they were the home team and there own pitch was unsafe,did you expect west to travel to westport?inadequate roping of the pitch?the rules state that a pitch does not have to be roped of for a quarter final,west roped it off anyway,it was broken by westport supporters,hardly west's fault,complaining about having to pay for changing rooms?thats there own fault,they said they didn't have enough time to get across town,yet there is no traffic in town on a sunday morning,west had there complex opened,westport didn't turn up,west had no problem getting across town,the only west players to tog out in mervue were the one's who live in the eastside beside the pitch,there complaint about officials?sour grapes,the decisions that went against westport were the correct ones,the only bad one they got was when the linesman flagged when westport had a 3 on 2 situation,the ref blew up,reason for the flag,westport supporters were breaking the rope and nearly out on the pitch,they should of stayed behind the rope and they might have won 3-2,the appeal is the biggest joke i've ever seen in junior football,i actually hope they win it and west can give them a football lesson like they did last year up in westport.
FahyForever
24/03/2009, 12:29 PM
How do people see the Objection going? Obviously Westawake thinks it will be rejected for the reasons he has explained, but what about the Westport lads? Are ye confident it will be successful? If you thought there was no chance I guess you wouldnīt make the objection in the first place. On whats grounds would you say it might be passed? There seems to be a lot of different charges according to Westawakeīs account of things.. Do you think that it will be because of an amalgamation of these things or will one single charge be enough to have the game replayed if deemed justified? If so, which one is the most likely to sway the Connaught Council??
west awake
25/03/2009, 1:11 PM
In the previous round Oranmore were well and truly shafted by the Mayo officials. Although Westport were the better team 2 dubious penaltys to say the least were awarded to Westport by local officials. Penatly awarded when Oranmore were one up and the other when Oranmore were on top in the second half after just scoring twice. Didn't hear Oranmore crying over those decisions. Well done to West and best of luck in the next round. Westport maybe next year!!!!!!
oranmore's account of the last round of the connacht cup in westport on www.galwaysoccer.editboard.com
FahyForever
25/03/2009, 9:33 PM
Just had a look at that Galway website. Some of the remarks on it are a disgrace. Some utter moron called Murty had this to say:
Let all those whinging Mayo f**kers remember they wouldn't have a bob to their names only for all their illegal relations that have moved up here and taken all the jobs .They are worse han the Mexicans in the States , ye can tell them all by their wooly haircuts and tan brogue shoes . Their always asking bands and deejays to play the green and red of mayo and are usually louder than a bus load of spanish kids during the summer. I mean to say Westport , for feck sake , their most famous citizens are the fecking monkeys in the House . Better pitchs , sure ya , but at least , bad an all as things are we have hospitals , university ,and a decent place to live , ye hairy legs in Westport have got the whole thing wrong , get the basics first then get your nice pitch .By the way Westport clowns , here we also have Sportsground , Terryland , Mervues complex , Drom , NUI,G pitchs , Rangers pitchs , Knocknacarra , Millers lane , Pearse stadium etc etc , the fact ye lost to a team that used HOME ADVANTAGE to its ADVANTAGE is brilliant , fecking brilliant ....na na, na na na . Up yers , by the way , has it dawned .......ye are out of the Connacht cup , a competition no matter what type of grass ye think ye float on ,is a competition recently dominated by Galway clubs .......... thats right , come on east and west , pity ye couldnt grace the final ! By the way Westport Zoo fc , a third division side in Galway went further than ye !
... So itīs good to see the voice of reason alive and kicking in Galway. Absolute disgrace that moderators would allow that kind of neaderthalic sentiment to stay on their pages. Totally sickening. Please God Castlebar win it now...
buddyb
25/03/2009, 11:45 PM
In answer to Fahy Forever and others in above posts , l have been reading with interest all the views on the now infamous , Conn. Cup QF!!!!
Firstly , i am an associate referee in the Galway district who reffed approx 20 games this season prior to damaging my Achilles tendon .......1 Red Card and about 8 yellows in total during that period. I actually attended the game and i live as close to Castlebar as i do to Galway, so would have no interest as to the outcome. Here is an unbiased version of events......
The first thing that stood out was the amount of Westport support at the game , well done to all. When the game commenced it was apparent from the outset that Westport were not going to be bullied , as might have occurred in the past , but were going to meet fire with fire . Westports no 2 was lucky to be on the pitch after only 5 mins for a kick after the ball was cleared . AS a ref i would have sent him off as it was worse than the recent incident involving Rory Delap and Wright-Philips, both of whom got 3 game bans.David Horkan , albeit in my opinion the best player on the pitch by far also got booked and persisted with niggly fouls throughout the game and was also lucky to stay on the pitch????
As far as i could see , the two penos were rightly awarded and if anyone was to blame it was your keeper who despite his height wouldnt catch a cold.
The Galway FA have a policy of using 3 officials , even in league games that might have a tendency to boil over. As a manager of an underage (u13s)side 3 yrs ago and on reaching the QF of Irish Cup , our club were informed that it was mandatory to have the pitch "roped off" and three officials.
As for the incident involving the linesman who flagged , i had a good view of this and what occurred was that the Westport support on the half-way line were standing on the rope and had actually brought about an infringment by encroaching on to the pitch , straining to get a view of the play as it progressed up the wing. The linesman raised his flag early but was not seen by ref. When he eventually saw the flag he went back and spoke to him , asked the crowd to retreat and most importantly "dropped" the ball where the initial infringment took place- on the half-way line. Correct decision!!!
It was a fiery atmosphere, between arguably the best two teams in Connaught, and the West support can be very vocal , but to be honest they were outdone by the visitors who probably aimed more at the officials. In my opinion the referee, a Cork born man , is one of the best Soceity referees in the county and i believe he handled the game well in very difficult circumstances!!!!
I firmly believe that West will win Conn Cup and Prem League this season , even though they were not at their best and i also believe with a surface like Terryland , the game would have been over in the 90 mins , with only one winner. Saw them earlier in season V Tuam Celtic (5-1) in the above mentioned ground and no one in the West (pardon the pun) would have touched them on the night .....
Finally , i think from a neutral point of view Westport are wrong to object , they were beaten by a better team who gifted Westport 2 goals , its bad for football and in the unlikely event of being successful will open a huge can of worms for future games in all counties and competitions , hopefully The Connaught FA wont be conned into giving a replay !!!!!!!!!!!
GoodFootball
26/03/2009, 8:12 AM
In the previous round Oranmore were well and truly shafted by the Mayo officials. Although Westport were the better team 2 dubious penaltys to say the least were awarded to Westport by local officials. Penatly awarded when Oranmore were one up and the other when Oranmore were on top in the second half after just scoring twice. Didn't hear Oranmore crying over those decisions. Well done to West and best of luck in the next round. Westport maybe next year!!!!!!
oranmore's account of the last round of the connacht cup in westport on www.galwaysoccer.editboard.com
First of all, final score was 6-3, not really a close game that was decided by the refs decisions??
The first penalty was a clear handball in the penalty area. Westport went 5-1 up with 10 mins left, took the foot off and Oranmore scored 2 late and then a penalty was awarded for a bad tackle in the box which was scored to leave it 6-3. Flattering to Oranmore, more so!
Nothing dubious about either penalty by all accounts.
As you said yourself the better team won...to say that they were shafted by mayo officials is bitter!!
Billynose
26/03/2009, 10:45 AM
First of all I haven't heard of one neutral from galway say Westport were wrongly done by.
Second of all according to the Oranmore website (which is surprisingly unbiased) the reporter said it hit the defenders back while he was on the ground and that the second penalty was a well timed challenge. Now I'm not saying he's right (nor do I care) and I didn't see the game but surely going by Westports logic they should have been able to appeal if they felt aggrieved. Now if every team starts doing this the game will turn into a complete farce. As an aside I wouldn't call it bitter either, they freely admitted Westport were the better team.
Finally, FahyForever regarding that comment from Murty, granted the grammar etc is terrible (that is my main gripe with the Galway forum, I don't care for perfect grammar but a little effort would be nice) but it's actually significantly better than some of the rubbish spouted in this thread.
buddyb
26/03/2009, 1:03 PM
Having a family member living in Castlebar , for 20 yrs + , whos 15 yr old son has represented this country at two different sports , with success , i hate to think how Westport will react next time ye beat them in Cup Comp or any other Mayo Club for that matter, IF THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL IN THEIR APPEAL???? Will the toys be thrown out of the pram once again AND HEAD STRAIGHT FOR THE APPEALS "COURT".
Huge can of worms could be opened here and for the sake of football i hope the Conn FA see sense..............
Nice one Billy !!!!
FahyForever
26/03/2009, 1:37 PM
Having a family member living in Castlebar , for 20 yrs + , whos 15 yr old son has represented this country at two different sports , with success , i hate to think how Westport will react next time ye beat them in Cup Comp or any other Mayo Club for that matter, IF THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL IN THEIR APPEAL???? Will the toys be thrown out of the pram once again AND HEAD STRAIGHT FOR THE APPEALS "COURT".
Huge can of worms could be opened here and for the sake of football i hope the Conn FA see sense..............
Nice one Billy !!!!
To the Galway lads.. I have already posted on this forum that I think criticising the West team for not offering a replay on a neutral venue was wrong, but the post by Murty was just totally out of line and offensive. I notice heīs only 18 and that might account for the immaturity of his post, but the fact that the moderators allow this kind of offensive garbage to stay on the forum (despite their written policy of screening sensitive or offensive posts) is blatantly wrong. Personal insults should be left out of what is already a īhuge can of wormsī as you call it yourselves. Every team has the right to object when they feel itīs justified, but it should be confined to a footballing issue, rather than a Mayo V Galway one.
Fair play to the Galway lads who posted here for keeping their posts unbiased and not reducing themselves to mindless slurs and insults.
Closing Time
26/03/2009, 3:33 PM
Come on Fahy that post was just a jealous Galway young fella wishing he was a Mayo man. IMO Westport Utd has acted disgracefully. They should have taken it on the chin and go and win the CSC. Cant see what they have appealed against. What rules have West broken. Just poor form just very poor form. I have no problem with a letter of complaint going to the CFA but why blame West. Poor, Poor, Poor Westport. Next they will be complaining that the ball wasnt round enough.
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