I've had enough of this stasis.
If there was a local clinic being closed in Borrisokane there would be protests on the street yet FF and the Greens have for the past 2 years presided over the systematic destruction of this state.
They clearly have no mandate to implement an iota of the next budget so what does it take to get us on the streets?
I'm talking about the people of Ireland not different interests groups, ie. Students, oaps, pbpa...
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The problem with the Irish people seems to be that they waiting for somebody else to do something and when the do, they say, it will make no difference. Sure recently where I am 10,000 people protested about the Hospital been downgraded, and that was half the town !!!.
Another "country is fkd" thread.
People don't march, as it achieves nothing, and is counterproductive.
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Try telling that to the people in other countries who have achieved and produced plenty.
mypost, people in here put up with a lot of commentary from you, an awful lot of it utter garbage. Extend the same courtesy to others or find somewhere else to post your twaddle.
Greece exploded in the spring. Their government ignored them. Same as in France lately.
30 protestors were arrested in London last week for standing up to the government they voted in 6 months ago. There was a demo outside the Dept. of Finance here the other week. What did it achieve? A few headlines in newspapers, Joe Duffy, and a news report yes, but no change in budget policy.
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We're not fit to govern ourselves: discuss.
Interesting idea. What annoys me is how everyone is perfectly happy to lay the blame squarely at Fianna Fail for the destruction of the country. Obviously they have spectacularly mismanaged the public finances but they were in a position to form three successive governments by virtue of their electoral mandate. They didn't get into office by coup d'état.Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
As for the Greens, I know they have been involved in a poor government over the last two years, characterised by the bank guarantee, but the fact remains that the property bubble caused a lot of the problems we currently face as a country and the Greens were the only party (with the possible exception of Labour) who were worried about the overemphasis on construction in the middle part of the last decade.
I think senior civil servants should hold their hands up and take a lot of the blame. The radical way in which McCreevy changed the tax base to one based largely on transaction based taxes as opposed to a more stable revenue base should have been challenged.
Regarding taking people onto the streets, I believe it to be counterproductive unless you have a clear set of aims and are willing to do a bit of research and try to propose a few alternatives rather than making pronouncements that sound good but have no substance. France is the perfect example of this. People all too happy to take to the streets at the drop of a hat but no rational debate, no concrete goals and no alternatives.
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I think it's more accurate to say that we're not fit to elect ourselves.
I was going to argue with you, but then I realised I voted for the f***ing Greens!
Isn't that pretty much what the Victorian English reckoned?
Ever hear of the Rose Revolution? The Orange Revolution?
The Orange revolution? The one where one crowd of corrupt shysters got replaced by another, then when everyone realised that the second lot were also incompetent, they voted the first ones back in. Result!
That's generally what happens here... FF get us into a hole, FG help us out of it. FG are boring and stable during the election campaign and FF offer the electorate magic beans and it starts over and over and over.
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You need to fit the Civil War in there somewhere.....
I was only willing to start from Lynch.
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I'm not talking about the politicians, I'm talking about people's revolutions. Please read the thread for context before replying.
Am not sure we need revolution. Just very wide ranging reform. In relation to voting in fianna fail all the time I think the country would benefit from some reform that would make it easier for the sizable amount of people who work/attend college in Dublin(or to a lesser extent the other population centres) but are registered at home, to vote in elections.
Yes, but the reasons for them were completely different.
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Was at a conference last month where Noel Whelan was one of the speakers. I dn't always agree with him, but he told an anecdote that has a sad ring of truth to it: a foreign journalist, asking why the Irish accepted spending cuts, bank bail outs etc etc when the Greeks were up in arms over similar policies, was told: in Ireland all our riots are on the radio.
Joe Duffy is the Irish Everyman's answer. Joe Duffy and The Star. Jesus help us, we're a country of morons.
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