Murphy is better than Doyle and Keane. Watch Robbie keane tonight and see how bad he is. I don't think people on here realise how bad Keane is.
Reid is a class act and should be on. Cannot make sense of Miller playing.
The defense picked itself, glad to see Kilbane on instead of Delaney. Thats Eire's strongest defence tonight.
I think Ireland will probably lose tonight. I am basing this on the following reasons:
1. Keane and Doyle cannot score and you need a tall strong striker on against the Norwegians.
2. McGeady has been caught out on the beer and his performances for Celthick reflect this. Duff's best days are behind him. I don't need to say anything about the central midfielders. Its weak!
If Ireland score 1-1 or 2-1 Norway, otherwise we are looking at 2-0 Norway here I think.
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I don't think that is very fair. The performances of the players against Cyprus and San Marino etc last year shows that these new players cannot do any worse. I think he deserves a chance. Miller on the other hand is a failure and he annoyingly gives a lot of frees away, particularly in dangerous positions.
The positives tonight is the return of Given and to a lesser extent Finnan.
It will be interesting to see what formation Trap adopts although it seems quite attacking.
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Last two games that Keane and Doyle have played together they have scored well Keane has scored, one against Wales and the other against Colombia.
Under Staunton they looked like strangers but with half bit of decent coaching and training they look like they could form a good partnership.
Than again you are a wind up merchant so best of luck to you.
In Trap we trust
I admit that Keane hasn't played well in his two competitive games for Liverpool but how you can say (as you did in the other thread) that Spurs were a better team without him last season is beyond me. He was excellent for them all last season and many of their fans considered him more important than Berbatov.
I also agree that he's been well below average for Ireland for most games since 2002 but I still believe under Trap that we'll see the best of him again. And if we do, he's far and away our best striker. I'm a fan of Murphy but he's still very much a work in progress - sometimes his touch is awkward and his finishing poor.
Yeah that why he cost 20 million.
I can't believe people are questioning Traps selection he has a great record as a manager, he picked Miller for a reason whether its tactical or for a system, who cares. The Irish team picks itself mostly, defenders pick themself ,so do the strikers, he only really has a choice when it comes to the midfield.
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Can't see Miller as a defensive player at all. He's more like Stephen Ireland - if the midfield is robust he can exploit space well, but if midfield isn't robust he's a liability. As said above, he always gives away cheap frees.
Andy Reid doesn't need midfield to be secured before he can add value in my opinion.
I can see Trapp's logic that central midfield needs more bite if we have Duff & McGeady out wide, but Miller isn't the answer IMO.
FAI website says it'll be Steven Reid & Whelan. S. Reid has passed a late fitness test.
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