Republic of Ireland V Colombia - Thursday, 29th May 2008 - Friendly - Craven Cottage

[eekers]

Interesting (or maybe not) that this is our best friendly result in 3 years (1-0 v portugal) according to fifa ranking points.

[tricky_colour]

I went to tape it and had it on the right channel as far as i could see, got home to realise i had it on a blank channel, GUTTED!!....... never have highlights either with is a ****er!!

Trickey how can you record from Sopcast?

There is a record button on it, its the red button in the play window.
However it depends how it is launched, if it is launched in a internet explorer window you cannot access that button, you have to run it so it does not go through a browser, just stand alone.
For example I was watching from here first
http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/thu...a_Ireland.html
But I could not record that so I changed to this link
sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/48608
Which is the same thing, but it launches directly into sopcast and you then
have the record button.
It was a pretty poor game to watch, you didn't miss much, at one poiint it catches one of Traps coaching
staff stifling a yawn!

[irishultra]

I don't know what irishbaz was talking about. O'Shea looked really assured. McShane was immense. Delaney was solid(but his distrubtion is poor) In fact Dunne looked the most nervous and out of sorts.

Whelan is not good enough. So so limited its not funny. He will be destroyed in the EPL next season. I haven't seen much of him grant it, but you just know when a player just doesn't have anything. Miller's problem is not that he isn't a decent passer, its just he's not very good at anything else. His positional sense is horrific. He doesn't come to get the ball, and just generally doesn't inspire confidence.

I love what Il Trap is doing, but he was wrong not to put Garvan on. Ireland were crying out for someone like him to get on the ball and get the game going.

McGeady was quite good, but his crossing wasn't upto much. I think though by the time September rolls around he will be on top form.

I thought Doyle was good, but he looks a half a yard(cliché but he actually does) off the pace. Keane at times looked promising in his ''new'' position, but went missing for most of the game.

We were battered in the first half. But we won. It in my opinion is progress. I am actually optimistic beacause I really think the Trapattoni factor is working.

I was just sad tonight because we looked like a team like Scotland, when I honestly believe we have the ability to play nice football like the game against Wales. In fact out of all the teams in the British Isles I think we have got the players to play slow tempo, with good build up play.

[theworm2345]

I went to tape it and had it on the right channel as far as i could see, got home to realise i had it on a blank channel, GUTTED!!....... never have highlights either with is a ****er!!

Trickey how can you record from Sopcast?

I use WMR 11

[eekers]

**** me, I got in as injury time started to find my stream hadn't been recording
I managed to cap the analysis though

As long as you have traps post match interview were he takes about John Delaney playing left back you are alright.

[Razors left peg]

Whelan was shocking. I know it's never in vogue to criticise newcomers but if John O Shea played a game like that this thread would be flooded with "O SHEA OUT" comments. I couldn't see one positive thing he did with the ball, he gave away possession time and time again, he didnt tackle well, he didnt pass well, he didnt mark his man well. He had a nightmare, he wasn't just poor he was a liability for the side.

Miller was better, but still as per usual with him typically average.

Elsewhere I was mostly impressed. McShane had a solid game, it's always a good sign when you don't really notice that Dunne was playing. I'm warming to Delaney, there's options with Kilbane or hopefully Finnan. But I think he'd cope in the important matches at left back.
Kiely was supurb. Keane and Doyle generally good, McGeady got into it in the second half. Keogh? I like Keogh, he's a hard worker, not really a winger. I think wes would have been a better option there than Keogh. But he still had a decent game but is too sloppy to play there for a key match.

Overall the main problem for me is centre midfield which yeah, is painfully obvious. Miller needs to be on the bench and Whelan booted off the squad. Here's hoping both Reids are fit and Ireland comes back.
Also what was Ronnie talking about Carsley being gone?

I have to say I agree with all of this... good post

[pineapple stu]

Chelsea have never won at Villa Park.

14 times, in fact. Though not since 1999, which was in fact their fourth win in a row there.

Kiely saved us tonight; some great saves. Didn't do much after the goal (which was a bit lucky, though some nice play to create the chance) and one dangerous cross a minute later.

End of season friendly, long way to go, players out, etc, etc, but I won't be getting my hopes up after watching the game.

[Irish_Praha]

Loads of new posts appeared in the time it took me to write my last reply. So it's good to see that there is a general opinion that the biggest problem with tonights game was a poor CMF pairing resulting in Colombia having too much of the ball to come and attack and also limiting our attack to hoofing the ball out from defence again.
Delaney and McShane had decent games which sweeps our defence problems under the carpet until the next game at least. However, these players could really be found out when the competitive games start. Fingers crossed that they develop into solid international-class players, neither will be world-class.
What's really interesting for me, if the defence holds steady, is how we will play when all MF players are available.
Carsley has his knockers on here but he would have shored up the MF tonight if he played instead of Whelan. Anyway, from Reid x 2, Carsley, Ireland we can surely find a paring that would work better than tonight. Will Trap employ a style where we will create more chances or will he use the more solid CM pairing to make us more difficult to beat. Pity we have to wait until August to find out.

[beepbeep]

hear traps post match interview?? AHH i had to have. 'John Delaney at the back'

[theworm2345]

As long as you have traps post match interview were he takes about John Delaney playing left back you are alright.

Nope

[beepbeep]

hear traps post match interview?? AHH i had to laugh. 'John Delaney at the back'

ah good on ya trap. ur making a difference, and its quite clear.

[paulie_walnuts]

Didn't see it as I was at Oriel but from what I have read, Miller was predictably annonymous. Hopefully he won't be near the starting XI, the 2 Reids will be there or thereabouts, Miller just doesn't have enough presence about him, I've never rated him.

[irishultra]

The Trap effect in my opinion is working. I am confident we can score in Georgia and the country that Serbia don't think should be a country. I also believe we will create chances. I know looking at tonight you might not see this but even though we weren't good on the ball(or on the ball) for that matter, we looked very mobile at some points.

With Andy Reid and hopefully Steven Reid(and maby Ireland because he's a very good ball carrier) the future could be good.

And this is the worst thing about Int.football, the fecking wait till our next game. It should be an interesting game none the less.

[Diarmo]

I'm warming to Delaney, there's options with Kilbane or hopefully Finnan. But I think he'd cope in the important matches at left back.

I think someone must have hijacked Ciaran's account. Not like him to understand football.

[tricky_colour]

I have just been watching my recording and it looks like Mcgeady should have had a definate penalty on 70 minutes.

[cheifo]

Agree a tight ground suits us better.Similar to the way NI use Windsor park to their advantage ut nothing can be done about that so hownever.
Colombia play some lovely stuff, a pleasure to watch and will do well in the African heat in 2010 presuming they qualify.
Good dicipline from our lads in the second half but more than a few of them are just not up to this standard.Maybe Whelan will improve getting some experience in the Premier but I would have love to have seen McPhail and maybe Garvan as our midfield pair.Thought Doyle did well considering the lack of service.
The two Reids,Duff,Finnan and O'Brien(or both of them) will improve the side.

[irishfan86]

I have just been watching my recording and it looks like Mcgeady should have had a definate penalty on 70 minutes.

Yeah, when I was watching it live I thought it was a clean tackle, but when I saw the replay, I thought it was a definite penalty.

Oh well, I'd rather the ref miss a call in a friendly.

Let's save our luck for the qualifiers!

[pineapple stu]

The Trap effect in my opinion is working. I am confident we can score in Georgia and the country that Serbia don't think should be a country.

You're mixing Montenegro with Kosovo.

[barney]

Not a good performance at all. Great result though.

Obviously Kiely did well and the back four in general did well. They had the better of the first half coz our midfield was anonymous. Have to say though that Dunne, athough a great defender, is not a great footballer. Whacked the ball long all night even when he had an option. McShane had a good game as well as the full backs.

McGeady was okay, Keogh below average (though out of position). Whelan was absolutely dreadful while Miller did okay but not enough to stake a claim for a starting berth.

Strikers got nothing.

We have a long, long way to go. We are so poor in possession, our movement is so bad that it'll be a while before we are anywhere near where we need to be. Trap ain't a miracle worker.

[tricky_colour]

Yeah, when I was watching it live I thought it was a clean tackle, but when I saw the replay, I thought it was a definite penalty.

Oh well, I'd rather the ref miss a call in a friendly.

Let's save our luck for the qualifiers!

Yea, I have only saw it twice because I have to watch the recording as if it is live, can't step back etc.. but it looked like a penalty, even the first time I though penalty, although it did not seem worthy of one, however technically
it appeared to be one, I just saw the highlights on Sky Sports News though and they never mentioned it.
I'd like to see it again but it means watching the whole match again