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    Quote Originally Posted by FarBeag View Post
    Yeah really.Are you referring to Kevin Kilbane here? If so how many of his 80 caps have been won playing as a left back? He is not good enough for this role imo and we need someone there who is.DD play's there week in week out for QPR,and is our only upcoming left back apart from O Halloran who is injured.Give me a reason why he should not be given a chance here apart from your seasoned international one?
    by all means give him a chance but playing at international level is a whole different world to playing the likes of colchester in the championship

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbyrne View Post
    by all means give him a chance but playing at international level is a whole different world to playing the likes of colchester in the championship


    Yes i know but its not a position i feel comfortable with KK or JOS in. Give the chap a fair chance and if he fails so be it. We can go looking for another left back somewhere else as we have an abundance of them knocking on our door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbyrne View Post
    by all means give him a chance but playing at international level is a whole different world to playing the likes of colchester in the championship
    Then what's the point of calling up any Championship players?
    Last edited by Diarmo; 12/03/2008 at 6:36 PM.

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    Wes Hoolahan,Liam Lawrence and Paddy Kenny should be in the squad.Jay Tabb should be given a chance,a very exciting player
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciaran View Post
    20 midfielders better than Tabb, Delap and Rowlands. For most explanations isn't necessary

    (1) Damien Duff
    (2) Aiden McGeady
    (3) Andy Reid
    (4) Steven Reid
    (5) Steven Ireland
    (6) Lee Carsley
    (7) Stephen Hunt
    (8) Joey O Brien
    (9) Keith Treacy
    (10) Darren Potter
    (11) Darren Gibson
    (12) Kevin Kilbane
    (13) Liam Miller
    (14) Liam Lawerence
    (15) Roy O Donovon
    (16) Daryl Murphy
    (17) Graham Kavanagh
    (18) Stephen Quinn
    (19) Wes Hoolihan
    (20) Stephen McPhail

    viola!
    Have to say i agree with that entire list with the exceptions of and Kavanagh, Treacy and O'Donovan

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    Quote Originally Posted by backtowalsall View Post
    Have to say i agree with that entire list with the exceptions of and Kavanagh, Treacy and O'Donovan




    Let’s make the list a bit smaller then. Liam Miller (can’t make a struggling Sunderland team) Steven Quinn (in and out of a Struggling Sheff utd team) Darren Gibson who I rate by the way can’t make a struggling Wolves team same as Darren Potter.Daryl Murphy is a makeshift mid-field player because Keane sees him having a good attitude.So i guess this moves Tabb and Rowlands quite away up that list.
    Last edited by FarBeag; 12/03/2008 at 7:35 PM.

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    I agree totally with the general jist of Far Beag's original post. Obviously you can't populate the whole squad with championship players but I think Stan totally overdid it with his "building for the future" pretensions. Plenty of those listed have done a lot more at club level than some of those capped by Stan and given game time in crucial games.

    By the way I think Jay Tabb is a lovely footballer, very skillful. Unfortunately he's even more of a midget than the rest of our midgets. Given the chance I personally think he could be as effective at a mid-ranking club as David Bentley who has got a lot of accolades this season.

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    side issue but a fair few of the websites have nationality: English for some of these younger players....

    L Lawrence on the Stoke website, Jayy Tabb on Soccer Base.....
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    Both were born in England but have been called up to either U21 or senior squads.

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    Actually you gave it a pretty good bash. I did not think you meant it quite as literally as many intended.

    I do think Tabb is worth a look. Stan was unbelievable in ignoring Lawrence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia View Post
    Actually you gave it a pretty good bash. I did not think you meant it quite as literally as many intended.

    I do think Tabb is worth a look. Stan was unbelievable in ignoring Lawrence.
    Its hard to think anything Stan did was unbelievable at this point
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    I wonder was Tardelli, Trapp or Brady watchin Sunderland reserves play ManUtd last night - there were three Irish on show - Harte, Mc Shane and Miller. It was quite embarrassing as not one of them played well`(well maybe Mc Shane played ok?). To think they are all recognised Ireland caps is sad to say the least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
    ah i dont know how many of those lads at the age they are at are worth giving a go than the younger lads in the championship.

    Preston aren't doing that well this year, and st ledger is playing in the centre for them isn't he?! He and delaney are the only youngish fella out of all those. I dont think we should be looking to unproven old fellas at this stage. CHampionship should be there as back up, not as first choice...

    Btw farbeag, do you think Trap reads this forum?!
    The Saint has played at CB, RB and Midfield for Preston this season, yes Preston aren't doing too well this season.
    St Ledger has been playing well and the rumours are that Everton has asked to be kept informed of any bids for him.

    I think if we don't get this lad tied to us we could lose him as he is eligible for England and NI too as he has yet to be capped for us.

    Given the chance (no pun intended) St Ledger would do well under the coaching of Trapp as St Ledger's game is based on bringing to ball out from the back, is very comfortable on the ball, has pace, reads the game well and is good in the air and on the deck.

    Has to be worth a shout! so what players do you think will be in the squad for the training camp in Portugal

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigmanCas View Post
    I wonder was Tardelli, Trapp or Brady watchin Sunderland reserves play ManUtd last night - there were three Irish on show - Harte, Mc Shane and Miller. It was quite embarrassing as not one of them played well`(well maybe Mc Shane played ok?)
    Did you watch it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eirebhoy View Post
    Did you watch it?
    Yip - as did Roy Keane, he was in the small crowd. It was on ManUtd TV. No players of note playing except the Irish lads. Sunderland got a penalty in the last minute for a deliberate hand ball and Harte put it away to win the game 1-0. It sent shudders up my spine when I seen him step up to take it!! Spain - WC 2002 all over again. Trapp will have to plan without these three on last nights' performance.

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    I lie - I suppose Carlos Edwards made his return for Sunderland - Good player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigmanCas View Post
    I wonder was Tardelli, Trapp or Brady watchin Sunderland reserves play ManUtd last night - there were three Irish on show - .
    Roy O'Donovan played too , he is also Irish

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    Quote Originally Posted by gustavo View Post
    Roy O'Donovan played too , he is also Irish
    Yip - augers well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigmanCas View Post
    Harte put it away to win the game 1-0. It sent shudders up my spine when I seen him step up to take it!! Spain - WC 2002 all over again. Trapp will have to plan without these three on last nights' performance.
    And yet you will still find a fair few Ian Harte supporters on here despite the fact that 6 years ago in Korea he was a liability defensively (lacking pace and positional sense) and I don't think he has improved since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigmanCas View Post
    How can anyone forget that after missing a penalty early on in the game v Spain - he had the audacity to think he was still the penalty taker for the one to level the match in the 90th minute. I remember Robbie Keane coming up to him (like a baseball manager coming from the dugout to take the ball from the pitcher - signalling a change) and demanding the ball. Well done Robbie!! And what a great penalty it was...
    can a player come back onto the pitch to take a penalty? my memory is that harte had gone off by the time we won that second pen

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