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    I would be expecting Lawrence to be in the next squad, the only two others I would take from that list is Kenny, with Given's injuries these days & McPhail. I may be wrong but McPhail may be a bit too lightweight for an international player.

    Delap??? Please not Trap
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    Quote Originally Posted by nui-harp View Post
    hopefully he tries to talk kevin nolan round to play. i kno he should want to play and not be begged but the guy is a quality player

    No he isnt, he was briefly, now he is sh*t and thats probably a more accurate picture.

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    as far as i know the kevin nolan thing is a no go now since the window closed....
    I pity the fool!.... But suggest ways that he might improve himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciaran View Post
    For some that holds water but to be honest I can think of about 20 midfielders I'd pick before Tabb, Delap and Rowlands.
    Go on then. 20 Midfielders. With reasons why you'd have them ahead of Tabb, Delap and Rowlands
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    Quote Originally Posted by nui-harp View Post
    hopefully he tries to talk kevin nolan round to play. i kno he should want to play and not be begged but the guy is a quality player
    Quality or not, he's ineligible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    Go on then. 20 Midfielders. With reasons why you'd have them ahead of Tabb, Delap and Rowlands
    Yeah, I mean are there even 20 midfielders playing in the championship or above that are Irish? Some of these I would barely have heard of so how Ciaran could easily do so is beyond me. I personally think that Rowlands did okay the last time he was selected for Ireland. Not 100% sure, as they were a long time ago and I only saw them once, but he didn't seem to stand out as being a weak link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciaran View Post
    20 midfielders better than Tabb, Delap and Rowlands. For most explanations isn't necessary

    (1) Damien Duff
    (2) Aiden McGeady
    (3) Andy Reid
    (4) Steven Reid
    (5) Steven Ireland
    (6) Lee Carsley
    (7) Stephen Hunt
    (8) Joey O Brien
    (9) Keith Treacy
    (10) Darren Potter
    (11) Darren Gibson
    (12) Kevin Kilbane
    (13) Liam Miller
    (14) Liam Lawerence
    (15) Roy O Donovon
    (16) Daryl Murphy
    (17) Graham Kavanagh
    (18) Stephen Quinn
    (19) Wes Hoolihan
    (20) Stephen McPhail

    viola!
    Hi, Roy. Just to let you know O'D and Murphy are strikers and not midfielders. Perhaps this is the reason you are going to get relegated (This is a shot at Roy, not you Ciaran)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciaran View Post
    20 midfielders better than Tabb, Delap and Rowlands. For most explanations isn't necessary

    (1) Damien Duff
    (2) Aiden McGeady
    (3) Andy Reid
    (4) Steven Reid
    (5) Steven Ireland
    (6) Lee Carsley
    (7) Stephen Hunt
    (8) Joey O Brien
    (9) Keith Treacy
    (10) Darren Potter
    (11) Darren Gibson
    (12) Kevin Kilbane
    (13) Liam Miller
    (14) Liam Lawerence
    (15) Roy O Donovon
    (16) Daryl Murphy
    (17) Graham Kavanagh
    (18) Stephen Quinn
    (19) Wes Hoolihan
    (20) Stephen McPhail

    viola!
    You could explain Keith Treacy (who has played twice for Blackburn) and Roy O'Donovan and Daryl Murphy (who aren't midfielders)
    Also, why are you including these players, given your past comments on them?
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    Kilbane - Overrated. I don't think he adds anything. Can't pass, can't control play, can't tackle. Best he can do is unsettle people (or just crack open Schweinstiegers head).
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    I feel any game Ireland plays we're assured to lose the midfield battle as he can't hold on to the ball or pass it well at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciaran View Post
    20 midfielders better than Tabb, Delap and Rowlands. For most explanations isn't necessary

    (1) Damien Duff
    (2) Aiden McGeady
    (3) Andy Reid
    (4) Steven Reid
    (5) Steven Ireland
    (6) Lee Carsley
    (7) Stephen Hunt
    (8) Joey O Brien
    (9) Keith Treacy
    (10) Darren Potter
    (11) Darren Gibson
    (12) Kevin Kilbane
    (13) Liam Miller
    (14) Liam Lawerence
    (15) Roy O Donovon
    (16) Daryl Murphy
    (17) Graham Kavanagh
    (18) Stephen Quinn
    (19) Wes Hoolihan
    (20) Stephen McPhail

    viola!
    A few of those are quite iffy. So would you rather have Kavanagh playing on the wing than say Tabb or Rowlands? The funny thing is that at the start of the season you probably would have said the same about Lawrence as you're saying about the 3 midfielders you don't rate.
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    And no mention of John Joe O'Toole. Only one decent start so far for the u21's, but making a good impression in the Championship with Watford.
    He has to be one of the young players jockeying for a squad place.

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    I would have O Toole and Garvan in that list no problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciaran View Post
    Roy O D started on the right wing did he not? And Daryll is a very competent winger, I've seen him play there a few times and he does a decent job there. He's got the pace and vision to do fine there (Stokes not so much), not A material but certainly one of our top 20 options!

    On my Kilbane and Ireland criticisms it's more in comparison to the better first team options than them. Just so we're clear, if we play Ireland we'd lose the midfield battle. If we play Rowlands it'd be a compliment to our decimated midfield to even call it a battle!

    But if you want to remove a couple fine, those guys still aren't close to the list. FYI Garvan and Michael Doyle are 21st and 22nd.
    What are you on about...You made a daft throw away remark, indeed an exageration; saying there are 20 players ahead of those mentioned above. Now when pushed on the matter you've managed to find 20 midfielders who are playing at a reasonable level and included them in there ahead of them. Your post is absolute sh*te. Coleman described Tabb last week as a 'little gem', whilst the other week removed the captaincy from Michael Doyle. Also, QPR have been subject to a recent takeover and despite a mass influx of players Rowlands has managed to keep his place.

    That only demonstrates a minor point, the fact of the matter is, your list is bull, does not ring true, and anyone who watches these players on a regular basis knows that.

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    Are we talking about a friendly here or a qualifier? If a qualifier (or one of Trapp's first two matches) I see no reason anymore than 3-4 of them should be called. If, for example, the Norway friendly, I don't see any reason why 6-8 of them shouldn't get called and play at least half an hour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciaran View Post
    20 midfielders better than Tabb, Delap and Rowlands. For most explanations isn't necessary

    (1) Damien Duff
    (2) Aiden McGeady
    (3) Andy Reid
    (4) Steven Reid
    (5) Steven Ireland
    (6) Lee Carsley
    (7) Stephen Hunt
    (8) Joey O Brien
    (9) Keith Treacy
    (10) Darren Potter
    (11) Darren Gibson
    (12) Kevin Kilbane
    (13) Liam Miller
    (14) Liam Lawerence
    (15) Roy O Donovon
    (16) Daryl Murphy
    (17) Graham Kavanagh
    (18) Stephen Quinn
    (19) Wes Hoolihan
    (20) Stephen McPhail

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    Ciaran I don't see a single player below 8th on that list that is a better player than Tabb at present.

    Roy O'Donovan, Darren Potter, Darren Gibson, Graham Kavanagh, Liam Miller, Keith Treacy, Kevin Kilbane, Stephen McPhail. Are you serious?

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    Quote Originally Posted by livehead1 View Post
    Also, QPR have been subject to a recent takeover and despite a mass influx of players Rowlands has managed to keep his place.
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    not to mention the fact that he's currently captaining QPR aswell.


    I think its deffo worth calling up a lot of these guys for the training camp. Why not? sure it'll help Trap get to know what he's dealing with as regards backup players for injuries and also lets the players know that if they knuckle down and play well then they have the chance of being in future squads.

    Ciaran - about half of your list is absolute bull and the other half is just obvious. I'd deffo be willing to give Rowlands and Tabb a chance in the squad ahead of most of the guys below #8 (bar Kilbane obviously!!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciaran View Post
    20 midfielders better than Tabb, Delap and Rowlands. For most explanations isn't necessary

    viola!
    What have their musical skills got to do with anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by FarBeag View Post
    Damian Delaney( Left Back) I have seen this guy play about five times this year and he is good. Big tall guy who likes to get forward and much more reliable than Kilbane in this position
    really. you can tell that an untried championship player is "more reliable" than a seasoned international with over 80 caps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciaran View Post
    viola!
    I don't think Everton fans would share your mirth for the might of Fiorentina!

    Quote Originally Posted by livehead1 View Post
    the fact of the matter is, your list is bull, does not ring true, and anyone who watches these players on a regular basis knows that.
    FACT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciaran View Post
    20 midfielders better than Tabb, Delap and Rowlands. For most explanations isn't necessary

    (1) Damien Duff
    (2) Aiden McGeady
    (3) Andy Reid
    (4) Steven Reid
    (5) Steven Ireland
    (6) Lee Carsley
    (7) Stephen Hunt
    (8) Joey O Brien
    (9) Keith Treacy
    (10) Darren Potter
    (11) Darren Gibson
    (12) Kevin Kilbane
    (13) Liam Miller
    (14) Liam Lawerence
    (15) Roy O Donovon
    (16) Daryl Murphy
    (17) Graham Kavanagh
    (18) Stephen Quinn
    (19) Wes Hoolihan
    (20) Stephen McPhail

    viola!


    I will never admit to being an expert on all thing football related and most posters on here have a better knowledge of the game than i do, but when i see posts like this it make me feel a lot better.You are just clutching at straws so as to make your silly comment justifiable which you cant do so you continue to dig.



    Anyway if you watched some of these players actually play football from time to time you would have a better idea of their ability.They should be given the chance and let Mr Trapattoni decide if they are good enough or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbyrne View Post
    really. you can tell that an untried championship player is "more reliable" than a seasoned international with over 80 caps?


    Yeah really.Are you referring to Kevin Kilbane here? If so how many of his 80 caps have been won playing as a left back? He is not good enough for this role imo and we need someone there who is.DD play's there week in week out for QPR,and is our only upcoming left back apart from O Halloran who is injured.Give me a reason why he should not be given a chance here apart from your seasoned international one?

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