What did people think. I enjoyed it, a pity more players did not contribute and people other than Dunphy.
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I enjoyed it though perhaps too much of Dunphy. That said, he did seem somewhat contrite in parts. Would have like to have seen more from the players as well as at least some highlights from the 92 campaign. Overall. a nice production. The Charlton years were good years.
There is no such thing as a miracle cure, a free lunch or a humble opinion.
Yup, enjoyable, if a bit safe and not exactly groundbreaking. I liked jack's contributions. There is something about the man which makes him likeable. The Dunphy angle of 'good players bad tactics' has been done to death as well as Quinn's comments on the somewhat chaotic organisation situation being well known and debated to death in the Roy Keane/Brian Kerr post Saipan era.
I for one will never tire of seeing the footage from those times. As a 7 year old when Italia '90 was on, that and the subsequent hours spent watching videos of it and '88 are what put me and others of my age onto soccer.
I won't give up on following sport when there is a chance of being there and part of the likes of stuttgart, Genoa, Giants etc and even Anfield '95, the ending of an era.
As a GAA man, Roscommon winning the Connacht in '01 for the first time in ten years ranks up there with one of the greatest days of my life () and seeing that footage again of those days and events I've mentioned above for the Ireland team just reaffirms my passion and commitment to following my side through highs and lows.
Onwards and upwards for '08.
The dude abides....
Very enjoyable. A bit sick of the Poor Liam Brady bit. Graet times . don't think we'll ever get that feeling back again. Something very special about Italia '90.
Thought it was decent enough. Isnt T na G the best Tv staton out there?
Agree that the Brady stuff has been done to death. I mean wasnt Brady in his 30's, what the fcuk was he doing before that with ireland, and Dunphy going on about the style we played, but I remember the 1990 world cup was one of the most boring ones ever, most games had only one goal, so its not if Ireland were the only rubbish team in the world. Football was very defensive in the early 90's.
But was Dunphy crying in this doc?
I thought the 92 and 94 campaigns should have been done a bit more but seeing the fall-out after the Egypt match was great, and Dunphy's mop
Great to look back on it though!
San Marino are going to be a handful as the group goes on." - Steve Staunton reacts to performance against San Marino.
Ta T G 4 an bealach teilifis is fearr
Brady was 33 when Charlton took him off at Lansdowne v West Germany.
It wasnt his age that was the issue. Charlton took him off after 30 mins at home in a friendly. He could have waited til half-time. It embarrassed the greatest player ever to play for Ireland (up to that point). He deserved better.
What had Brady done previously. Well he played in a team that missed out on goal difference for the 82 World Cup. In a group that contained the 1978 World Cup Finalists (Holland), the 1980 Euro Runners Up (Belgium) and the 1982 World Cup Semi-Finalists (France). When you consider we were robbed of a point in Paris and two points in Brussels by corrupt referees, I think it was an achievement.
To rub it in, Ireland and Wales finished on ten points in tough groups and didnt qualify. England and N Ireland qualified with nine from theirs.
Is that the ancient documentary that was made years ago that i have on VHS in a cupboard somewhere. It starts or finishes with Charlton in the back of a car or somethin...
Nope, new one.
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Thats the Charlton Years, I have that if you wantOriginally Posted by gufcfan
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Am looking for old Irish matches on VHS, PM me if you have some and I'll upload them here
Tis a pity it's not archived on tg4.tv like the rest of the stuff. Sorry i missed it now. I purposely dint watch it coz i thought it was the old one... ah well. they'll have it repeated soon hopefully anyhow
don't suppose anyone taped it?
I'd imagine they have to get someone to physically put it online so mightn't be up until after new years.
yeah i thought it was very good - really enjoyable
seeing dunphys eyes fill up with tears was weird though
and jack talking bout the irish fans in anfield in 1995 - class
yep he was crying alright - defo
Watched that today. Never tire of the whole Italia 90 buzz. I first started getting into football at Euro 88, and what a time. The wide eyed innocence of it all, and so glad i was at an age I could appreciate it now Im a tad older!
'Fascists dress in black and go round telling people what to do, where as priests.....'
having Dunphy on was a great idea. meant it was objective and not just another "I am great, look at me" rant. It was a good bit of tele and having the opposing views made it so.
watching Dunphys emotion really brought it home that for all you say about him, for all you disagree and loathe him, the man is Irish football to the core and probably cares more than most of us here put together. History will judge Eamo kindly
That's your opinion.
"Irish football to the core": the man who supported the Kilcoynes in their sale of MilltownDon't make me laugh. He cares nothing about Irish football. He cares only about the sound of his own voice and his subjective (not objective) opinions and he has made a great living out of it. He has launched personal attacks (Andy Capp on Jack C),Mick Mc and on all Irish managers...ah, I am tired of repeating myself but when I see stuff like he cares more about Irish football than any of us, I just despair.
I taped the programme. I haven't watched it yet but as far as I am aware Dunphy wasn't in the team in Italia 90 so why there should be any mention of him saying the same old stuff, I am not sure. He certainly made a good living out of it mind you.
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Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
I don't think Dunphy will be remembered kindly by Irish supporters. Remember he wanted Cameroon to beat us? All he cares about is getting himself in the limelight, causing controversy. Thought the documetary was really good. It was a brilliant time for Irish football when we didn't give a f*** who the opposition were.
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