Jesus help the country if Guiliani got as far as POTUS or even VP, that's all I can say. Bush would seem cuddly-wuddly in light of that lying, thieving piece of human waste.
Do I even need it? I wouldn't swear to the thieving bit on a criminal level, but his business interests are criminal on an ethical level; and in light of his presidential run, they literally are criminal because: 1) they're not declared; and b) he's still running businesses when he's not supposed to. He's been caught lying innumerate times at this stage. He makes Bush and Bertie looks like angels for god's sake.
Last edited by dahamsta; 09/01/2008 at 4:07 PM.
Guiliani scores high in National polls. He leads in Florida & Michigan. Then again how accurate are the polls. I agree he a waste of space. IMO the Democrats would love to up against him.
I think the only correct predict I saw before NH was that Independents liked McCain & Obama so with more voting for McCain that was bad for Obama.
US Elections are entertaining as all TV & Polls plus a new vote every week. As foreigner can be also be detached.
I think McCain won over enough independents and it ultimately hurt Obama. The much anticipated "high turnout" amongst young voters never really materialised, again hurting the Obama campaign. Also Hillarys nauseating "weepy" moment a couple of days ago didn't do her any harm as Americans flocked to the polls to once again to illustrate their gullibility.
The republicans are probably rubbing their hands at the prospect of Hillary getting the Democratic nomination...she only THINKS she's been treated roughly at the minute - the republicans will show absolutely no mercy in a Presidential election campaign and they'll use Bill Clinton as the stick to beat her with.
http://www.electoralcompass.com/page/0/thema+s/
Interesting one of those political compasses for the candidates , I'm closest to Edwards and furthest to Thompson
closest to Obama, furthest from Fred Thompson.
Don't know how reliable that thing is though - I'd like to know who runs it.
Closest to Hillary furthest from fred thompson
The pre-Super Tuesday Primaries, with hte exception of Florida, are really not worth a curse to the Republicans outside of PR. According to a longstanding GOP rule, no primaries are permitted prior to February 5th, and any taking place will have their delegation reduced to half, I think, for the final nomination, effectively meaning that New Hampshire was worth about 12 votes instead of 24, and is only a proportion of that goes forward behind McCain. Troublesome Michigan, is still worth 30 instead of 60, and is winner take all with a bonus for a big win. Florida is the same, only now worth 57 (instead of 114).
Smart Republicans (see what I done there - craftsmanship that) will concentrate on these and Super Tuesday in terms of votes. However, we all know how the masses like to back a winner (in Ireland as much as elsewhere), and a good showing in the politically well-regarded NH counts for quite a lot elsewhere in the more aware states. Iowa will resonate with the more family value oriented, or as we call them, "Hick" states.
Few folk seem to realise quite how well Romney is doing so far - two seconds in proportional states and 8 of the 12 votes in Wyoming - if I'm not mistaken, he is currently leading the race owing to the fact that no-one really bothered with Wyoming. However, he has yet to capitalise on this with the media.
'Twill be interesting stuff.
Interesting, but I'd hardly trust it - Obama being listed most "American Left"? One version of this has Clinton as a rampant Socialist, one step short of Karl Marx
Last edited by dahamsta; 10/01/2008 at 11:42 AM.
That question was less stupid, though you asked it in a profoundly stupid way.
Help me, Arthur Murphy, you're my only hope!
Originally Posted by Dodge
I read somewhere that because the vote too earlier both parties have kicked Michigan out of the system?
Romney referred to Wyoming as his gold in the "1 gold, 2 silver" remake. He has spent $60m already though. He is rich but if using personal money can't continue like that indefinitely.
McCain could become the least worst candidate of the Republicans as little baggage that other candidates have.
Same for me.
Interesting election as a whole. I think Obama would be my personal favourite too. I don't trust Hilary for some reason. That's based more on gut instinct than any political knowledge though.
Obama will probably win and proceed to declare war on the renegade state of Europe.
Tallaght Stadium Regular
That barometer is Boll!x - Obama is about as economically left- wing as Tony Blair - look at this and who his friends are
A patriot is someone who knows how to hate his country properly.
JESUS!!!!!! I am Hilary Clinton.
Can we get back onto the topic in-hand now please, so I don't have to split all this political compass stuff out?
adam
City definetly have the best bands playing at half-time.
O'Bama - "Eerah yeah, I'd say we can alright!"
G.O'Mahoney Trapattoni'll sort ém out!!
Very simple. The government syphons off the presumably 4% of the tax that pays for feasibility studies on medicare and brings an end to geography in the schools (they weren't using it anyway) about throw wads of cash at some big company which is an independent branch of some huge company who go bust after 7 years, taking all the money with them, and the directors, shareholders, etc get off scott free, having invested their money into some other health plan.
Its a branch of Enronomics...
That question was less stupid, though you asked it in a profoundly stupid way.
Help me, Arthur Murphy, you're my only hope!
Originally Posted by Dodge
Interesting left leaning article taken from Portside
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Romney wins half strength Michigan for the GOP, and stay on top of it, with McCain, who won it in 2000, coming second about 10% behind. Huckabee's Iowa victory seems a long time ago now, as he trailed into third, but then, he didn't campaign hard here.
Giuliani seems to have put it all into Florida - a REALLY bad idea in my opinion - most of the US is aggravated by the idea that certain politicians only pay attention to where there is a big voting block to be had - it sounds like he'll be aiming at the big states alone, and that will screw him around the houses, especially seeing as South Caolina is coming up, and traditionally a good indicator as to the GOP nom.
Meanwhile Clinton topped the state the Democrats stripped of delegates for rule infringement - Obama's people sounded p!ssed that she did allow her name on the ballot though. Nearly impossible to find out the result of the Democrats poll as the media seemed only interested in the top two, and occasionally Edwards too. Seeing as Edwards and Obama didn't have their names down, a whopping 39% went down as "Uncommitted", leaving my man Kucinich to sweep to second place on 3.66%. For the record, Clinton polled over 55%.
Last edited by dahamsta; 18/01/2008 at 11:38 AM.
That question was less stupid, though you asked it in a profoundly stupid way.
Help me, Arthur Murphy, you're my only hope!
Originally Posted by Dodge
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